Re: RTF documents as templates

2010-06-09 Thread stephen barncard
Pure RTF text files created by Rev are a styled text format that is
readable by Word and most text editors, but does not include images.

  On the mac, RTF documents (note the suffix .rtfd) created by TextEdit are
actually BUNDLES, not files, and contain the RTF file and the graphic files.
 RTF files saved by Word I believe do not save images either,  that is for
the .doc format.

On 8 June 2010 15:20, JosepM jmye...@mac.com wrote:


 Hi again,

 Some questions for the experts...

 How can open or print a RTF file without Word? TextEdit loss the images and
 format of tables...

 How can open and print from Applescript without view the flashing RTF file?



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Re: RTF documents as templates

2010-06-09 Thread Jan Schenkel
I recall a post from November 2008 where Franz Böhmisch posted a way to embed 
images into RTF files, followed by Ken Ray's abstraction of said method. 
Searching the use-revolution archives, I found these two links for you:
http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2008-November/117180.html
http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2008-November/117212.html

Other than that, I'm afraid there's no built-in way to print those RTF 
documents and you'd have to rely on the presence of MS Word on the end-user 
machine. While it's nearly ubiquitous on Windows, MacOSX is another matter so 
you may have to decypher the .rtfd bundle format that TextEdit uses, to cram 
your images into it.

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--- On Wed, 6/9/10, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 Pure RTF text files created by Rev
 are a styled text format that is
 readable by Word and most text editors, but does not
 include images.
 
   On the mac, RTF documents (note the suffix .rtfd)
 created by TextEdit are
 actually BUNDLES, not files, and contain the RTF file and
 the graphic files.
  RTF files saved by Word I believe do not save images
 either,  that is for
 the .doc format.
 
 On 8 June 2010 15:20, JosepM jmye...@mac.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Hi again,
 
  Some questions for the experts...
 
  How can open or print a RTF file without Word?
 TextEdit loss the images and
  format of tables...
 
  How can open and print from Applescript without view
 the flashing RTF file?
 
 
 
  Salut,
  Josep
  


   

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Re: Repeat until the MouseClick to stop 'flashing' button?

2010-06-09 Thread William de Smet
Thanks Mark,
Works great so far!

2010/6/8 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net:
 William-

 Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 1:14:16 PM, you wrote:

 @ Mark: easier to read now?

 Hi there,

 I have a flashing button 1  with this script:
 on mouseUp
 set the backgroundcolor of grc dummy to pink
      repeat
     hide me
     wait 25 ticks
   show me
   wait 25 ticks
 end repeat
 end mouseUp

 The idea is that while button 1 is flashing I want to click at
 button 2  so button 1 stops flashing and executes its own script:
 on mouseUp
    set the backgroundcolor of me to the backgroundcolor of grc dummy
 end mouseUp

 I try adding 'repeat until the MouseClick' in button 1 but that only
 stops the flashing (what I want) but doesn't execute the script in
 button 2.
 To run the script on button 2 I have to click on button 2 again.
 So I have to click twice and that is not what I want :-(.

 Is this possible?
 Anyone has any other idea's on how to do this?

 Yep - that's much better. Lots of ways to do this. Here's one:

 button1:

 on mouseUp
  set the IsFlashing of me to true
  send flashme to me in 25 ticks
 end mouseUp

 on flashme
  if the IsFlashing of button 1 then
    if the visible of me then
      hide me
    else
      show me
    end if
    send flashme to me in 25 ticks
  end if
 end flashme


 button 2:

 on mouseUp
  set the IsFlashing of button 1 to false
 end mouseUp

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Re: iTunes style titlebar

2010-06-09 Thread Andre Garzia
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Warm Up Team!!!

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com wrote:

  Hmmm, I'll have to try this out in tomorrow nights' sprint.


 Does this mean you are in training for Andres' July coding sprint?

 Now I do feel inadequate ;-)))
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Re: Sizing Columns to Fit

2010-06-09 Thread Gregory Lypny
Thanks to everyone who responded.  Good suggestions.  I will look into each one.

Gregory


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Re: Stacks with transparent background

2010-06-09 Thread Shao Sean

Under Windows I have an external that allows you to set a stack a colour
and then make that colour transparent.. Under Mac OS X there are two ways
to create a window - composite and non-composite. Rev creates windows
(stacks) as non-composite and therefore cannot create a transparent window
with opaque controls..
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Re: Stacks with transparent background

2010-06-09 Thread David Bovill
Interesting - thanks! Any reason you know of for not choosing composite
windows on OSX - I take it you can't port your external to OSX without that
:)

On 9 June 2010 15:03, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote:


 Under Windows I have an external that allows you to set a stack a colour
 and then make that colour transparent.. Under Mac OS X there are two ways
 to create a window - composite and non-composite. Rev creates windows
 (stacks) as non-composite and therefore cannot create a transparent window
 with opaque controls.

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Re: RTF documents as templates

2010-06-09 Thread JosepM

Hi List,

Here my tests... 
In MacOSX the RTF is RTFD that is a bundle as explained Jan.
 
Showing the contents of bundle you can found one TXT.rtf file that contain
the text and the n files for the asociated images used in the creation of
the file from TextEdit.

Steps.

1 Open TextEdit and create your template using images and positioning using
tables if you need. If not put your text formated as you need.
2 Where you need replace some part, use the [[myreplacedtext1]] using [[ to
open and ]] to close. As Jan show in her link above.
3 Save as RTFD
4 Open from Rev with the following code. The question is to open the TXT.rtf
file and modify it.
5 Open directly from TextEdit and Print using Rev or Applescript.

Pro
No MS Word need.
Easy way to use templates for the user.

Con
Poor alignment format, only tables, so to build some document A4 or Letter
for example you need to check the lines, footers, etc...

on mouseUp
   
   put mactoiso(áàïô_test) into text1
   put This a long text to see how is showed inside the rtf file into
description
   put Bottom text into footer
   put the system date into tDate
  
   answer file Where is the template file?
   if it is empty then exit mouseUp
   
   put it into theTemplateFile
   
   -- Duplicate the file with a new name

   put TXT.rtf into tFichero
   put theTemplateFile  /  tFichero into tTheFile
   put URL(binfile:  tTheFile) into theRTFtext
   
   set the fileType to MSWDRTF 
   
   put merge(theRTFtext) into URL (binfile:  tTheFile)
end mouseUp


Salut,
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[OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?

2010-06-09 Thread Richmond

So; my G4 MAC went wonky; very wonky.

So; I ran out and spent 150 Euros on a Maxell 1.5 TB 'Tank' with
a USB2 interface; and spend the better part of 9 days backing
the computer up (remember the useful motto: never do the
sensible thing until after the disaster happens)

For those who are interested in this type of thing; the MAC wouldn't 'see'
the 1.5 TB disk for WRITE until it had been partitioned into 10 150 GB
partions.

The G4 MAC only has USB1 ports . . .

So; late to the table as usual . . .  :)

Can anybody recommend a USB2 card I can pop in the back of my G4?

Hey; maybe there is a way to ensure that restoration doesn't
take another 9 days.
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Re: A problem with clearing fields on marked cards

2010-06-09 Thread charles61

Craig,

I made some changes in my script, which works. I am carefully checking any 
field on a marked card to see if there are problems.

Here is the revised script

on mouseUp
   repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cds -- Clears fields on 
marked cards
  repeat with u = 1 to the number of fields of marked card y 
 
 if the lockText of field u of card y is false then put empty into 
field u of marked card y
 -- if the short name of field u of marked card y CONTAINS 
field then put empty into field u of marked card y
  end repeat 
   end repeat 
end mouseUp

What do you think?

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Jun 8, 2010, at 9:39 AM, dunbarx [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 The properties mentioned are not intrinsic to label fields, they are just 
 defaults at creation, and may be common to other fields. Certainly sharedText 
 and lockText could be. All the other suggestions are valid as far as they 
 go, naming, numbering, layering, etc., but these may not be convenient, or 
 constant, and may be tedious to manage down the road. In other words, they 
 may 
 not go very far. 
 
 Naming them with a unique beginning string is pretty robust, I guess; I've 
 done that. But I still think that creating a custom property is the cleanest 
 way. It isn't so onerous, after all. 
 
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Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?

2010-06-09 Thread stephen barncard
Richmond, do you have a problem with Firewire? Even FW 400 is way faster
than USB2 for extended disk operations. (IMHO) USB is for mice and keyboards
and USB sticks.

On 9 June 2010 09:52, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:

 So; my G4 MAC went wonky; very wonky.

 So; I ran out and spent 150 Euros on a Maxell 1.5 TB 'Tank' with
 a USB2 interface; and spend the better part of 9 days backing
 the computer up (remember the useful motto: never do the
 sensible thing until after the disaster happens)

 For those who are interested in this type of thing; the MAC wouldn't 'see'
 the 1.5 TB disk for WRITE until it had been partitioned into 10 150 GB
 partions.

 The G4 MAC only has USB1 ports . . .

 So; late to the table as usual . . .  :)

 Can anybody recommend a USB2 card I can pop in the back of my G4?

 Hey; maybe there is a way to ensure that restoration doesn't
 take another 9 days.
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Banner ads...

2010-06-09 Thread Simon Lord
When I last used MetaCard it had basic support for HTML rendering.
RunRev seems to do more so I'm curious to know if anyone has
successfully built an app with banner ads in the UI.  Does it work?
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Re: RTF documents as templates

2010-06-09 Thread JosepM

Update code using theRTFText of field 
The revCopyFile don't copy the bundle, only create the file so searching for
the list I found a piece of code to copy using the shell.

If someone want the stack and the RTF file to test email me and I send you.

Salut,
Josep

on mouseUp
   
   put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto1) into texto1
   put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto2) into texto2
   
   put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto_f1c1) into texto_f1c1
   put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto_f1c2) into texto_f1c2
   put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto_f1c3) into texto_f1c3
   
   put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto_f2c1) into texto_f2c1
   put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto_f2c2) into texto_f2c2
   put mactoiso(the RTFText of fld f_texto_f2c3) into texto_f2c3
   
   answer file Where is the template file?
   if it is empty then exit mouseUp
   put it into theTemplateFile
   
   ask file Save your message as: with TheResultingRTF.rtfd
   if it is empty then exit mouseUp
   put it into theMergedFile
   
   set the fileType to MSWDRTF 
   --
   put (cp -R -p quotetheTemplateFilequotequotetheMergedFilequote)
into tCommand 
   get shell(tCommand) 
   --
   
   put TXT  .rtf into tFichero
   put theTemplateFile  /  tFichero into tTheFile
   put URL(binfile:  tTheFile) into theRTFtext
   
   set the fileType to MSWDRTF 
   
   put merge(theRTFtext) into URL (binfile:  theMergedFile  / 
tFichero)
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Re: Banner ads...

2010-06-09 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Simon,

 When I last used MetaCard it had basic support for HTML rendering.
 RunRev seems to do more so I'm curious to know if anyone has
 successfully built an app with banner ads in the UI.  Does it work?

if you mean a gif/jpeg file as the banner then this is nothing more than 
setting the filename of an (empty) image object to an url on any HTTP server!

But FLASH will also work if you use a browser object!


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Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?

2010-06-09 Thread Richmond

On 06/09/2010 08:07 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

Richmond, do you have a problem with Firewire? Even FW 400 is way faster
than USB2 for extended disk operations. (IMHO) USB is for mice and keyboards
and USB sticks.

   


NO! I have no problem at all with Firewire; and, just as soon as I have 
my G4 up-and-running
I am going to yank out a 750 GB ATA disk I have inside and pop it into a 
LaCie Firewire--USB

external box I have.

YES! Bulgaria has a problem with Firewire as (well, at least in Plovdiv) 
there are about 10 Macs in the country,

and 4 of them are mine; so nobody sells a Firewire external thing here.

Once I have hoicked out the 750 GB and got it inside the Firewire box I 
shall; glacially slowly,
pop all my USB backup onto that - but, a USB2 card (I saw one online by 
Allegro) would

expedite matters considerably.

The 1.5 TB could then be connected up to a P4 I am currently using with 
kids I teach to do a remake
of Snow White and the incredibly expanding list of pupils with puppets 
made from old socks:
no doubt knocking everything out of competition at Cannes next year . . 
.  :)  And before you ask; the
'pupils', being made of socks, will be called mouldy, manky, sweaty, 
cheesy, holey and so on!


USB is for mice and keyboards and USB sticks.

try telling that to some salesperson in a computer shop here in 
Bulgaria; first off, they haven't heard

of Firewire!

What is not at all clear to me is what is actually inside the Maxell 
Tank; documentation is minimal
to say the least, and I am reluctant to open the thing up until its 
guarantee expires (2 years); but,
for a 1.5 TB disk it is rather cheap. Should it contain a PATA or a SATA 
disk I am wondering about
buying an empty Firewire enclosure in Britain (will be over there for 12 
days at the start of August)

to transfer it to.

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The whole thing, ultimately, boils down to my own stupidity. I should 
have realised that a G4 Mac at
7 years old just might throw a tantrum; and I should have made proviso 
for that; but didn't.

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Klaus . . . :)

2010-06-09 Thread Richmond

Hello Klaus,
  So glad to see that you are back with us;
I do hope that everything has smoothed itself out.

I am putting this message on the Use-List as I am sure
my sentiments are supported by everyone.

Love you, you rotten old chap!

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
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Re: A problem with clearing fields on marked cards

2010-06-09 Thread DunbarX
I think you are almost there. But I would not use the 
In a message dated 6/9/10 1:03:14 PM, csz...@mac.com writes:


 Craig,
 
 I made some changes in my script, which works. I am carefully checking any 
 field on a marked card to see if there are problems.
 
 Here is the revised script
 
 on mouseUp
    repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cds -- Clears fields on 
 marked cards
       repeat with u = 1 to the number of fields of marked card y
         
          if the lockText of field u of card y is false then put empty into 
 field u of marked card y
          --         if the short name of field u of marked card y CONTAINS 
 field then put empty into field u of marked card y
       end repeat
    end repeat
 end mouseUp
 
 What do you think?
 
 Charles Szasz
 
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Re: A problem with clearing fields on marked cards

2010-06-09 Thread DunbarX
Charles,

I think you are almost there. But I would not use the locktext to 
distinguish label fields from all my other fields, for reasons already 
discussed. I 
would set a custom property:

if the isLabel of field u of card y is true then put empty into field u 
of marked card y

This is clean and unassailable.

Craig


In a message dated 6/9/10 1:03:14 PM, csz...@mac.com writes:


 Craig,
 
 I made some changes in my script, which works. I am carefully checking any 
 field on a marked card to see if there are problems.
 
 Here is the revised script
 
 on mouseUp
    repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cds -- Clears fields on 
 marked cards
       repeat with u = 1 to the number of fields of marked card y
         
          if the lockText of field u of card y is false then put empty into 
 field u of marked card y
          --         if the short name of field u of marked card y CONTAINS 
 field then put empty into field u of marked card y
       end repeat
    end repeat
 end mouseUp
 
 What do you think?
 
 Charles Szasz
 
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Re: A problem with clearing fields on marked cards

2010-06-09 Thread charles61

Dunbarx

Your last part of your e-mail was cut off.

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:14 PM, dunbarx [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 I think you are almost there. But I would not use the 
 In a message dated 6/9/10 1:03:14 PM, [hidden email] writes: 
 
 
  Craig, 
  
  I made some changes in my script, which works. I am carefully checking any 
  field on a marked card to see if there are problems. 
  
  Here is the revised script 
  
  on mouseUp 
 repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cds -- Clears fields on 
  marked cards 
repeat with u = 1 to the number of fields of marked card y 
   
   if the lockText of field u of card y is false then put empty into 
  field u of marked card y 
   -- if the short name of field u of marked card y CONTAINS 
  field then put empty into field u of marked card y 
end repeat 
 end repeat 
  end mouseUp 
  
  What do you think? 
  
  Charles Szasz 
 
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Re: A problem with clearing fields on marked cards

2010-06-09 Thread charles61

Craig,

Well, I have 72 cards and I had locked the label fields two weeks ago. But I 
will try your suggestion. I need practice in creating custom property! 

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:16 PM, dunbarx [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Charles, 
 
 I think you are almost there. But I would not use the locktext to 
 distinguish label fields from all my other fields, for reasons already 
 discussed. I 
 would set a custom property: 
 
 if the isLabel of field u of card y is true then put empty into field u 
 of marked card y 
 
 This is clean and unassailable. 
 
 Craig 
 
 
 In a message dated 6/9/10 1:03:14 PM, [hidden email] writes: 
 
 
  Craig, 
  
  I made some changes in my script, which works. I am carefully checking any 
  field on a marked card to see if there are problems. 
  
  Here is the revised script 
  
  on mouseUp 
 repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cds -- Clears fields on 
  marked cards 
repeat with u = 1 to the number of fields of marked card y 
   
   if the lockText of field u of card y is false then put empty into 
  field u of marked card y 
   -- if the short name of field u of marked card y CONTAINS 
  field then put empty into field u of marked card y 
end repeat 
 end repeat 
  end mouseUp 
  
  What do you think? 
  
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Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?

2010-06-09 Thread stephen barncard
There are no PATA drives over 500 gig. The technology shifted after that
point.

Yeah, old G4s. I have a bunch of them. I know. G4s kinda like Tiger but they
really don't like Leopard. Some of the later ones (as well as my G5 ) have
these giant processor sections with liquid cooling and outside pipes that
look like miniatures of the first hydrogen bomb.

TIGER DIRECT has a cheap ($14) USB card that seems to be rated for Mac and
has good reviews

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4143850csid=_25

On 9 June 2010 11:10, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:


 What is not at all clear to me is what is actually inside the Maxell Tank;
 documentation is minimal
 to say the least, and I am reluctant to open the thing up until its
 guarantee expires (2 years); but,
 for a 1.5 TB disk it is rather cheap. Should it contain a PATA or a SATA
 disk I am wondering about
 buying an empty Firewire enclosure in Britain (will be over there for 12
 days at the start of August)
 to transfer it to.

 --

 The whole thing, ultimately, boils down to my own stupidity. I should have
 realised that a G4 Mac at
 7 years old just might throw a tantrum; and I should have made proviso for
 that; but didn't.

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Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?

2010-06-09 Thread Richmond

On 06/09/2010 09:28 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

There are no PATA drives over 500 gig. The technology shifted after that
point.
   


That is NOT true; I have a 750 PATA (IDE/ATA) drive in my G4; ordered it
through Amazon.uk about 2 years ago.

It seems hard to obtain PATA drives nowadays; this is sad as I have about
5 perfectly serviceable Pentium 4s lying around that, with decent size 
hard drives
(i.e. not the 20 GB ones they currently have) could be 'thrown' at quite 
a few
of my pupils for the cost of a PATA drive (80-160 GB) and Mint XFCE; for 
which

they would be very happy.


Yeah, old G4s. I have a bunch of them. I know. G4s kinda like Tiger but they
really don't like Leopard. Some of the later ones (as well as my G5 ) have
these giant processor sections with liquid cooling and outside pipes that
look like miniatures of the first hydrogen bomb.

TIGER DIRECT has a cheap ($14) USB card that seems to be rated for Mac and
has good reviews

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4143850csid=_25

   


Thank you very much for the link.

I wonder why, as well as having 4 external USB2 ports it has 2 internal 
ones:

I'd be hard-put to squeeze anything else inside my G4; although a second fan
(err??? possibly connected to an internal USB port) might not be a bad 
thing.

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Re: A problem with clearing fields on marked cards

2010-06-09 Thread stephen barncard
That's the good part! It's just as easy as setting the Rev property
The custom property is 'created' by just setting a name you pick to some
data.
(don't forget the 'the' )

set the SillyPropertyName of field myField to myData

--  myData can be any text or even binary or a stack !


get the SillyPropertyName of field myfield
put it  -- into msg box

easy!!

Custom properties are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

sqb

On 9 June 2010 11:24, charles61 csz...@mac.com wrote:


 Craig,

 Well, I have 72 cards and I had locked the label fields two weeks ago. But
 I will try your suggestion. I need practice in creating custom property!

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Re: A problem with clearing fields on marked cards

2010-06-09 Thread DunbarX
Charles.

Custom properties are very simple and very powerful. They work just like 
any other property.

You just make them up. Write:

set the isLabel of field yourField to true --isLabel is the new 
custom property

Then ask:

answer the isLabel of fld yourField

You will get true.

You will set the isLabel of all your other fields to false. You can do 
this in a script.

This property is separate from the ordinary properties of your fields. For 
example, you might want a locked field in your application for some reason, 
and that would then interfere with your ability to distinguish it from a 
label field. 
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Re: WWDC Keynote: HTML5 wide open for On-Rev revServer

2010-06-09 Thread Mike Bonner
Yep, since Jerry's initial answer hadn't exactly covered what was
being, I just posted the relevant section for him. So I guess I was
pointing out the point of your pointing. . *grin*

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 Yes indeed, Mike, i understand jerry's answer as far as server side accounts
 are concerned.

 I was just pointing out that in the context of html5 local storage, if and
 when a web app uses that storage, then there are issues of security.

 I'm working on an eDemocracy site  app. i'll try hard to make it as secure
 as possible in order not to allow anybody to gather information about what
 somebody else think.

 What troubles me is at the same time to see a big move towards mobile
 advertisement AND the launching of HTML5 local storage which unlike cookies
 (which have caused trouble in the minds!) can have persistent datas, and
 much more datas.

 So I beleive it could be a good thing to be very clear on this data policy
 with users, for a change!

 Actually I do have a question on this HTML5 specifs : how can the user
 monitor datas? Has he got the right to go and inspect? or is it context
 dependant, e.i only a javascript program imbedded in a page of the said
 domain could get to the datas? If anybody has a clue, thanks!

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runrev community : how many licenses? How many users? How many developpers?

2010-06-09 Thread Robert Mann

I really wonder how many people actually are out there... what is the runrev
community like, in numbers!?

about 120 people on the google map, I assume the core of the group
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enmsa=0msid=103560329393675966954.00047f3f26dbe66f71c2dll=17.978733,12.304688spn=124.244284,268.242188t=hz=2

tRev mentionned 100 users, less than 20 interested in the doc.

Would be interesting to gather facts around to have a clearer view.

Is there a way to get to know the number of users of the nabble runrev list?

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Re: WWDC Keynote: HTML5 wide open for On-Rev revServer

2010-06-09 Thread Robert Mann

I get the point about to be here or not to be here, Jerry.

I'll go sign in and get enrolled in the rodeo trip.

See you there!

Nevertheless, discussing the know how and limitations of  HTML5 local
storage is a matter of general interest I think for runrev and more
specifically for on-rev users, who will follow the HTML5 webapps route.

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Re: Klaus . . . :)

2010-06-09 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Richmond,

 Hello Klaus,
  So glad to see that you are back with us;
 I do hope that everything has smoothed itself out.

Well, sort of, a work in progress...

 I am putting this message on the Use-List as I am sure
 my sentiments are supported by everyone.
 
 Love you, you rotten old chap!

Thanks buddy :-)

 sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.

Best

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Re: runrev community : how many licenses? How many users? How many developpers?

2010-06-09 Thread DunbarX
Cool. How does one get on the map?

Craig Newman

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Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?

2010-06-09 Thread stephen barncard
Hi Richmond,

Regardless the PATA standard is dead for new manufacture and very few are
made anymore. I can't find them in the cavernous big box stores in
California at all.  The sick thing is if you can find 750's on ebay and
Amazon they cost more than today's modern SATA (and probaby not as
reliable).

 If one wants to continue using  G4s and other older machines, it's cheaper
just getting a inexpensive SATA card. On ebay all the prices I saw for 750's
was over $185 US.
In the big box stores, the 1.5 gig are coming down, quickly and the new
price/performance is now going to the 2.0 gig drives, and the 1.5TB drives
could go for less than $100 soon, if not now.

again, Tiger Direct has one for $24 - not sure of the compat or drivers but
this shows that these devices are out there.  A lot of this PC-only stuff
just runs. Some of it doesn't.

 Tiger has a live chat that might even work. Pretty impressive computer gear
store. They've come a long way from their 'cheesy electronic gadget' days.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3501402CatId=1455



I wonder why, as well as having 4 external USB2 ports it has 2 internal
ones:
I'd be hard-put to squeeze anything else inside my G4; although a second fan
(err??? possibly connected to an internal USB port) might not be a bad
thing.


PCs often have bigger boxes and SIX slots.
Don't forget there's a little area for a floppy or second CD drive in some
G4s.


On 9 June 2010 11:37, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 06/09/2010 09:28 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 There are no PATA drives over 500 gig. The technology shifted after that
 point.



 That is NOT true; I have a 750 PATA (IDE/ATA) drive in my G4; ordered it
 through Amazon.uk about 2 years ago.

 It seems hard to obtain PATA drives nowadays; this is sad as I have about
 5 perfectly serviceable Pentium 4s lying around that, with decent size hard
 drives
 (i.e. not the 20 GB ones they currently have) could be 'thrown' at quite a
 few
 of my pupils for the cost of a PATA drive (80-160 GB) and Mint XFCE; for
 which
 they would be very happy.


  Yeah, old G4s. I have a bunch of them. I know. G4s kinda like Tiger but
 they
 really don't like Leopard. Some of the later ones (as well as my G5 ) have
 these giant processor sections with liquid cooling and outside pipes that
 look like miniatures of the first hydrogen bomb.

 TIGER DIRECT has a cheap ($14) USB card that seems to be rated for Mac and
 has good reviews


 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4143850csid=_25




 Thank you very much for the link.

 I wonder why, as well as having 4 external USB2 ports it has 2 internal
 ones:
 I'd be hard-put to squeeze anything else inside my G4; although a second
 fan
 (err??? possibly connected to an internal USB port) might not be a bad
 thing.

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Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?

2010-06-09 Thread Andre Garzia
Richmond,

Send me your snail mail address, I think I have an spare firewaire enclosure
you could use. It was made in taiwan eons ago but it works, you just pop an
HD inside it and it will work.

I don't know if a shipment from Brazil to Bulgaria will ever arrive, you
might get some weird stamps in it as if the package traveled to asia,
africa, oceania, the international space station, io and more before it
reaches you but it is worth a try.

Cheers
andre
PS: I know what it is to live somewhere where hardware simply is not
available... it took eons for macbooks to arrive here...

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 06/09/2010 08:07 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 Richmond, do you have a problem with Firewire? Even FW 400 is way faster
 than USB2 for extended disk operations. (IMHO) USB is for mice and
 keyboards
 and USB sticks.




 NO! I have no problem at all with Firewire; and, just as soon as I have my
 G4 up-and-running
 I am going to yank out a 750 GB ATA disk I have inside and pop it into a
 LaCie Firewire--USB
 external box I have.

 YES! Bulgaria has a problem with Firewire as (well, at least in Plovdiv)
 there are about 10 Macs in the country,
 and 4 of them are mine; so nobody sells a Firewire external thing here.

 Once I have hoicked out the 750 GB and got it inside the Firewire box I
 shall; glacially slowly,
 pop all my USB backup onto that - but, a USB2 card (I saw one online by
 Allegro) would
 expedite matters considerably.

 The 1.5 TB could then be connected up to a P4 I am currently using with
 kids I teach to do a remake
 of Snow White and the incredibly expanding list of pupils with puppets
 made from old socks:
 no doubt knocking everything out of competition at Cannes next year . . .
  :)  And before you ask; the
 'pupils', being made of socks, will be called mouldy, manky, sweaty,
 cheesy, holey and so on!


 USB is for mice and keyboards and USB sticks.

 try telling that to some salesperson in a computer shop here in Bulgaria;
 first off, they haven't heard
 of Firewire!

 What is not at all clear to me is what is actually inside the Maxell Tank;
 documentation is minimal
 to say the least, and I am reluctant to open the thing up until its
 guarantee expires (2 years); but,
 for a 1.5 TB disk it is rather cheap. Should it contain a PATA or a SATA
 disk I am wondering about
 buying an empty Firewire enclosure in Britain (will be over there for 12
 days at the start of August)
 to transfer it to.

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 realised that a G4 Mac at
 7 years old just might throw a tantrum; and I should have made proviso for
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Re: A problem with clearing fields on marked cards

2010-06-09 Thread charles61

Dunbarx

Thanks for the explanation! I will try it!

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




On Jun 9, 2010, at 2:44 PM, dunbarx [via Runtime Revolution] wrote:

 Charles. 
 
 Custom properties are very simple and very powerful. They work just like 
 any other property. 
 
 You just make them up. Write: 
 
 set the isLabel of field yourField to true --isLabel is the new 
 custom property 
 
 Then ask: 
 
 answer the isLabel of fld yourField 
 
 You will get true. 
 
 You will set the isLabel of all your other fields to false. You can do 
 this in a script. 
 
 This property is separate from the ordinary properties of your fields. For 
 example, you might want a locked field in your application for some reason, 
 and that would then interfere with your ability to distinguish it from a 
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Re: A problem with clearing fields on marked cards

2010-06-09 Thread stephen barncard
I don't think you need to 'opt out' the other fields. That would negate the
ease of just checking for some data in the property in your loop. Simplify!

 If it exists, then it is. Otherwise it isn't! false is implied in objects
that aren't branded.

-- inside your loop checking fields:
get the nothingText of stack mystack
if it is empty
 then
   next repeat (or whatever)
else
 -- execute something here if there is something in it
end if

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 Charles.

 Custom properties are very simple and very powerful. They work just like
 any other property.

 You just make them up. Write:

 set the isLabel of field yourField to true --isLabel is the new
 custom property

 Then ask:

 answer the isLabel of fld yourField

 You will get true.

 You will set the isLabel of all your other fields to false. You can do
 this in a script.

 This property is separate from the ordinary properties of your fields. For
 example, you might want a locked field in your application for some reason,
 and that would then interfere with your ability to distinguish it from a
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Re: A problem with clearing fields on marked cards

2010-06-09 Thread DunbarX
Stephen has a point. If you want, the label fields can have the property 
set to true, and all other fields can have the property set to   empty. 
Since you already set the locktext of your label fields to true (and I assume 
that means that all your other fields have it set to false) you can write 
a script:

on mouseUp
   repeat with y = 1 to the number of marked cds
      repeat with u = 1 to the number of fields of marked card y
         if the lockText of field u of marked card y is true then set the 
isLabel of field u of marked card y to true
   else set the isLabel of field u of marked card y to empty
      end repeat
   end repeat
end mouseUp

And from now on, with new fields or changed old ones, you never have to 
worry about whether the field is a label field or not. The property explicitly 
tells you. If you clone or copy any existing fields, the property will 
already be correct.

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Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?

2010-06-09 Thread stephen barncard
It would be quite an interesting read as a Fedex tracking document. But I
don't think that 's what you meant.

I am eagerly awaiting news on this amazing international shipping
experiment!

On 9 June 2010 11:38, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 Richmond,

 Send me your snail mail address, I think I have an spare firewaire
 enclosure
 you could use. It was made in taiwan eons ago but it works, you just pop an
 HD inside it and it will work.

 I don't know if a shipment from Brazil to Bulgaria will ever arrive, you
 might get some weird stamps in it as if the package traveled to asia,
 africa, oceania, the international space station, io and more before it
 reaches you but it is worth a try.

 Cheers
 andre
 PS: I know what it is to live somewhere where hardware simply is not
 available... it took eons for macbooks to arrive here...

 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On 06/09/2010 08:07 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
 
  Richmond, do you have a problem with Firewire? Even FW 400 is way faster
  than USB2 for extended disk operations. (IMHO) USB is for mice and
  keyboards
  and USB sticks.
 
 
 
 
  NO! I have no problem at all with Firewire; and, just as soon as I have
 my
  G4 up-and-running
  I am going to yank out a 750 GB ATA disk I have inside and pop it into a
  LaCie Firewire--USB
  external box I have.
 
  YES! Bulgaria has a problem with Firewire as (well, at least in Plovdiv)
  there are about 10 Macs in the country,
  and 4 of them are mine; so nobody sells a Firewire external thing here.
 
  Once I have hoicked out the 750 GB and got it inside the Firewire box I
  shall; glacially slowly,
  pop all my USB backup onto that - but, a USB2 card (I saw one online by
  Allegro) would
  expedite matters considerably.
 
  The 1.5 TB could then be connected up to a P4 I am currently using with
  kids I teach to do a remake
  of Snow White and the incredibly expanding list of pupils with puppets
  made from old socks:
  no doubt knocking everything out of competition at Cannes next year . . .
   :)  And before you ask; the
  'pupils', being made of socks, will be called mouldy, manky, sweaty,
  cheesy, holey and so on!
 
 
  USB is for mice and keyboards and USB sticks.
 
  try telling that to some salesperson in a computer shop here in Bulgaria;
  first off, they haven't heard
  of Firewire!
 
  What is not at all clear to me is what is actually inside the Maxell
 Tank;
  documentation is minimal
  to say the least, and I am reluctant to open the thing up until its
  guarantee expires (2 years); but,
  for a 1.5 TB disk it is rather cheap. Should it contain a PATA or a SATA
  disk I am wondering about
  buying an empty Firewire enclosure in Britain (will be over there for 12
  days at the start of August)
  to transfer it to.
 
  --
 
  The whole thing, ultimately, boils down to my own stupidity. I should
 have
  realised that a G4 Mac at
  7 years old just might throw a tantrum; and I should have made proviso
 for
  that; but didn't.
 
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Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?

2010-06-09 Thread Richmond

On 06/09/2010 10:24 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

It would be quite an interesting read as a Fedex tracking document. But I
don't think that 's what you meant.

I am eagerly awaiting news on this amazing international shipping
experiment!

   

No offence to Andre; but I think I can safely describe Brazil
and Bulgaria as a wee bit corrupt; so I have sent Andre my address for
what is a generous gift; and we shall see what we shall see.

Notwithstanding the above Amazon gets through!
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Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?

2010-06-09 Thread Andre Garzia
I will send it as a registered package so we can all have terrible fun while
tracking it, it will be like where in the world is carmen sandiego or
something...

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 06/09/2010 10:24 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 It would be quite an interesting read as a Fedex tracking document. But I
 don't think that 's what you meant.

 I am eagerly awaiting news on this amazing international shipping
 experiment!



 No offence to Andre; but I think I can safely describe Brazil
 and Bulgaria as a wee bit corrupt; so I have sent Andre my address for
 what is a generous gift; and we shall see what we shall see.

 Notwithstanding the above Amazon gets through!

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Re: runrev community : how many licenses? How many users? How many developpers?

2010-06-09 Thread Jim Kanter
Click on the edit button, zoom in on your location and plant a flag.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:59 PM,  dunb...@aol.com wrote:
 Cool. How does one get on the map?

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Oliver's scrollbar sample

2010-06-09 Thread Simon Lord
If Oliver is out there, any chance of getting the version of your
scrollbar sample stack with *both* horizontal and vertical scrollbars?
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Re: WWDC Keynote: HTML5 wide open for On-Rev revServer

2010-06-09 Thread Jerry Daniels

Robert,

It's tricky for ME to discuss Rodeo specifics, even if the topic would  
be of general interest. Truth is, I cannot think of many things we're  
doing with Rodeo that would not be of immense interest to lots of  
folks here.


But me discussing these items and YOU discussing them are two  
different things. I'm a Rev user, but I'm also a visiting vendor of  
other wares. It would seem you have greater freedom to discuss.


Best,

Jerry Daniels

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http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves



On Jun 9, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Robert Mann wrote:



I get the point about to be here or not to be here, Jerry.

I'll go sign in and get enrolled in the rodeo trip.

See you there!

Nevertheless, discussing the know how and limitations of  HTML5 local
storage is a matter of general interest I think for runrev and more
specifically for on-rev users, who will follow the HTML5 webapps  
route.


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Re: [OT] Mac PPC and USB2 ?

2010-06-09 Thread J. Landman Gay

Andre Garzia wrote:


I don't know if a shipment from Brazil to Bulgaria will ever arrive, you
might get some weird stamps in it as if the package traveled to asia,
africa, oceania, the international space station, io and more before it
reaches you but it is worth a try.


You forgot to put Io in your Where's my luggage game. I want an update! :)

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Re: WWDC Keynote: HTML5 wide open for On-Rev revServer

2010-06-09 Thread François Chaplais
Jerry et al, you may be interested in this:
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/06/09/exclusive-mdialog-ad-developers-toolkit-for-ios4-and-ipad/
its a toolkit for streaming video to the iPhone/iPad, all in HTML5
Best,
François
Le 9 juin 2010 à 22:05, Jerry Daniels a écrit :

 Robert,
 
 It's tricky for ME to discuss Rodeo specifics, even if the topic would be of 
 general interest. Truth is, I cannot think of many things we're doing with 
 Rodeo that would not be of immense interest to lots of folks here.
 
 But me discussing these items and YOU discussing them are two different 
 things. I'm a Rev user, but I'm also a visiting vendor of other wares. It 
 would seem you have greater freedom to discuss.
 
 Best,
 
 Jerry Daniels
 
 Follow the Rodeo discussion:
 http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves
 
 



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[OT] HTML5 and Safari 5

2010-06-09 Thread stephen barncard
the new Safari browser is now available... and although the HTML5 features
are compelling, some of the best features are there for programmers.
Available for Window as well as Mac.

My favorite is the snippet editor which is this split window with two
fields.Enter HTML, Java, Javascript DOM - most stuff you put into a web
page - and it interprets as you type, character by character.

It's kind of like a 'command line' for the webkit engine, except it responds
immediately

Great for testing... little code snippets

or paste in entire web pages. If the references are all full URLs you will
see a lot of it and can play around with it. Easier than saving a text file
then reading it back into a web page.

Of course we could have built it in rev and revBrowser.

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Re: runrev community : how many licenses? How many users? How many developpers?

2010-06-09 Thread Jerry J
I never found the edit button. When Mark moved us into this map, it put me 
under a tree in a field a few miles from my house. Someday I'll go find that 
tree and carve my initials in it!

Jerry Jensen

On Jun 9, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Jim Kanter wrote:

 Click on the edit button, zoom in on your location and plant a flag.
 
 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:59 PM,  dunb...@aol.com wrote:
 Cool. How does one get on the map?
 
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Re: WWDC Keynote: HTML5 wide open for On-Rev revServer

2010-06-09 Thread Jerry Daniels

Thanks, François!

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Follow the Rodeo discussion:
http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves



On Jun 9, 2010, at 3:57 PM, François Chaplais wrote:


Jerry et al, you may be interested in this:
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/06/09/exclusive-mdialog-ad-developers-toolkit-for-ios4-and-ipad/
its a toolkit for streaming video to the iPhone/iPad, all in HTML5
Best,
François


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Re: runrev community : how many licenses? How many users? How many developpers?

2010-06-09 Thread Jerry Daniels

Robert,

100 users? 20 interested in the doc?

We posted that we didn't have enough folks in interested in  
documentation for tRev...only 18 and we needed forty to proceed. We  
have about 700 licensed tRev owners. We post our numbers all the time.


Don't know what 100 users to which you might be referring.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Follow the Rodeo discussion:
http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves

On Jun 9, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Robert Mann wrote:


tRev mentionned 100 users, less than 20 interested in the doc.


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Re: [OT] HTML5 and Safari 5

2010-06-09 Thread Andre Garzia
Firefox + Firebug still a winner combination too! :D

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:50 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 the new Safari browser is now available... and although the HTML5 features
 are compelling, some of the best features are there for programmers.
 Available for Window as well as Mac.

 My favorite is the snippet editor which is this split window with two
 fields.Enter HTML, Java, Javascript DOM - most stuff you put into a web
 page - and it interprets as you type, character by character.

 It's kind of like a 'command line' for the webkit engine, except it
 responds
 immediately

 Great for testing... little code snippets

 or paste in entire web pages. If the references are all full URLs you will
 see a lot of it and can play around with it. Easier than saving a text file
 then reading it back into a web page.

 Of course we could have built it in rev and revBrowser.

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Re: runrev community : how many licenses? How many users? How many developpers?

2010-06-09 Thread Andre Garzia
I am one of them and I am worth a hundred users when it comes to support
calls \O/

(jokes, tRev doesn't need that it's that I just like to keep contact with
Jerry)

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:

 Robert,

 100 users? 20 interested in the doc?

 We posted that we didn't have enough folks in interested in documentation
 for tRev...only 18 and we needed forty to proceed. We have about 700
 licensed tRev owners. We post our numbers all the time.

 Don't know what 100 users to which you might be referring.

 Best,

 Jerry Daniels

 Follow the Rodeo discussion:
 http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-discuss-among-yourselves


 On Jun 9, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Robert Mann wrote:

  tRev mentionned 100 users, less than 20 interested in the doc.


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Re: [OT] HTML5 and Safari 5

2010-06-09 Thread Jim Ault

and don't forget the power of FirePHP written by the same group.

So many live debugging tools and access to information.
start using FireBug + FirePHP...
Now add Live HTTP Headers for Firefox and you can watch/capture  
headers in both directions as you use your browser to access pages or  
do the AJAX loops, etc.  Copy-paste into Rev and now you can set the  
correct custom headers in minutes.


On Jun 9, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Firefox + Firebug still a winner combination too! :D

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:50 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

the new Safari browser is now available... and although the HTML5  
features

are compelling, some of the best features are there for programmers.
Available for Window as well as Mac.

My favorite is the snippet editor which is this split window with  
two
fields.Enter HTML, Java, Javascript DOM - most stuff you put  
into a web

page - and it interprets as you type, character by character.

It's kind of like a 'command line' for the webkit engine, except it
responds
immediately

Great for testing... little code snippets

or paste in entire web pages. If the references are all full URLs  
you will
see a lot of it and can play around with it. Easier than saving a  
text file

then reading it back into a web page.

Of course we could have built it in rev and revBrowser.



Jim Ault
Las Vegas



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Re: [OT] HTML5 and Safari 5

2010-06-09 Thread Andre Garzia
Jim,

I do use FirePHP as well... check out FireLogger which is similar to firephp
but not tied to php, you can communicate with both with RevServer.

Latest version of my own revSpark framework has the ability to talk to
Firebug, now I am adding support to FirePHP and FireLogger.

Cheers
andre

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com wrote:

 and don't forget the power of FirePHP written by the same group.

 So many live debugging tools and access to information.
 start using FireBug + FirePHP...
 Now add Live HTTP Headers for Firefox and you can watch/capture headers in
 both directions as you use your browser to access pages or do the AJAX
 loops, etc.  Copy-paste into Rev and now you can set the correct custom
 headers in minutes.


 On Jun 9, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

  Firefox + Firebug still a winner combination too! :D

 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:50 PM, stephen barncard 
 stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

  the new Safari browser is now available... and although the HTML5
 features
 are compelling, some of the best features are there for programmers.
 Available for Window as well as Mac.

 My favorite is the snippet editor which is this split window with two
 fields.Enter HTML, Java, Javascript DOM - most stuff you put into a
 web
 page - and it interprets as you type, character by character.

 It's kind of like a 'command line' for the webkit engine, except it
 responds
 immediately

 Great for testing... little code snippets

 or paste in entire web pages. If the references are all full URLs you
 will
 see a lot of it and can play around with it. Easier than saving a text
 file
 then reading it back into a web page.

 Of course we could have built it in rev and revBrowser.


 Jim Ault
 Las Vegas




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Re: Stacks with transparent background

2010-06-09 Thread Shao Sean

 Interesting - thanks! Any reason you know of for not choosing composite
 windows on OSX - I take it you can't port your external to OSX without
that
 :)


No idea.. Might be a historical reason from when Mac OS X was just
starting or from when Dr Raney was working on the engine or it might be a
technical reason to deal with the cross-platform UI or it might simply be
they do not know about it (only Rev can answer why).. It is just a simple
flag that needs to be set on the window, but it can only be set when the
window is being created so an external cannot just turn it on.. I know
REALbasic has it as a window property that can be toggled on and off
(window is destroyed and recreated to turn it off and on).. 

In regards to the window properties on Mac OS X I would like to see the
features toggle without destroying/creating the window every time (it
changes the windowID property and most features can be toggled live
[shadows for example])

Actually the external is a port from the current Mac external to Windows
but without a Windows machine to code on my development stopped (now I have
an Intel MacBook Pro so I can get back in to it in the future)

-Sean
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Status on GUI skinning...

2010-06-09 Thread Simon Lord
So I downloaded Oliver's stack sample for a custom VERTICAL scrollbar
which does exactly what I wanted.  Problem is he took out the
horizontal scrollbar and I can't figure out how to get it to work
(again, the math).

So before I start crying profusely I just thought I'd ask if RunRev
allows for easily skinning scrollbars.

If not then the begging shall begging...
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Datagrid mouseUps

2010-06-09 Thread Alex Adams
I have a number of datagrids that behave in a way that is not intended and
I¹m curious if there is a simple way to solve the problem.

I have a mouseUp event the script of the datagrid.  It works well except
that it is triggered even when there is click in a scroll bar.

I¹m imagining that changing the row style from a table to a form that I can
move the event to the behaviors?  I¹ll be making that change in the next
version or so, but I¹d like to fix this the way it is first.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Status on GUI skinning...

2010-06-09 Thread tsj
On 10/06/10 11:42 AM, Simon Lord sl...@karbonized.com wrote:

 So I downloaded Oliver's stack sample for a custom VERTICAL scrollbar
 which does exactly what I wanted.  Problem is he took out the
 horizontal scrollbar and I can't figure out how to get it to work
 (again, the math).
 
 So before I start crying profusely I just thought I'd ask if RunRev
 allows for easily skinning scrollbars.
 
 If not then the begging shall begging...

Hi Simon - here's some code for a simple 'iPhone style' vertical scrollbar
that can be scrolled with your mouse's scroll wheel. Yes it's only for a
vertical scrollbar but it should be easily adapted for a horizontal
scrollbar and has the advantage that their is only one moving part (well,
two if you add a horizontal bar as well). All you should have to do to
modify it for a horizontal scrollbar is to substitute formattedWidth for
formatted height, width for height, left for top bottom for right, hScroll
for scroll etc.

Hope there's something useful to you in there.

Terry...

As always, watch out for wrapped lines.

# script of the group that is being scrolled

on resizeControl
   put the rect of me into tRect
   put the height of me into tH
   put the formattedHeight of me into tFH
   put tFH-4 into tMax
   set the height of grc scroller to  min(tFH-4,round(tH*(tH/tFH))-4)
   set the top of grc scroller to (item 2 of tRect)+2
   set the height of me to tH
   set the top of me to (item 2 of tRect)
   set the visible of grc scroller to (the height of grc scroller 
tMax)
end resizeControl

on rawkeydown theCode
   switch theCode
  case 65308
 set the scroll of me to (the scroll of me)+10
 break
  case 65309
 set the scroll of me to (the scroll of me)-10
 break
   end switch
   switch theCode
  case 65308
  case 65309
 put (the scroll of me)/(the formattedHeight of me - the height of
me) into tRatio
 set the top of grc scroller to round(tRatio*(the height of me -
the height of grc scroller))+the top of me
 set the blendlevel of grc scroller to 0
 if not(the pendingMessages contains hideScroller) then
repeat for each line tMessage in the pendingMessages
   if tMessage contains hideScroller then
  cancel item 1 of tMessage
   end if
end repeat
 end if
 send hideScroller to me in 1 sec
 break
   end switch  
end rawkeydown

on hideScroller
   set the blendLevel of grc scroller to 100
end hideScroller

# script of the vertical 'scrollbar' (grc scroller)

on mouseEnter
   put false into pDown
   set the blendlevel of me to 0
end mouseEnter

on mouseLeave
   set the blendLevel of me to 100
end mouseLeave

local pDown, pYoffset, pMin, pMax, pH, pGrpT, pGrpB, pGrpH, pFGrpH,
pMaxScroll

on mouseDown
   put the top of (the owner of me) into pGrpT
   put the bottom of (the owner of me) into pGrpB
   put the height of (the owner of me) into pGrpH
   put the formattedHeight of (the owner of me) into pFGrpH
   put the mouseV - the top of me into pYOffset
   put the height of me into pH
   put pGrpH-pH into pMax
   put pFGrpH-pGrpH into pMaxScroll
   put true into pDown
end mouseDown

on mouseUp
   put false into pDown
end mouseUp

on mouseRelease
   put false into pDown
end mouseRelease

on mouseMove x,y
   --put false into pDown
   if pDown then
  put y-pYOffset into tY
  set the top of me to min(pGrpB-pH,max(pGrpT,tY))
  put (the top of me - pGrpT)/pMax into tRatio
  set the scroll of (the owner of me) to round(tRatio*pMaxScroll)
   end if
end mouseMove

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Re: Datagrid mouseUps

2010-06-09 Thread tsj
On 10/06/10 12:06 PM, Alex Adams a...@a2technology.com wrote:

 I have a number of datagrids that behave in a way that is not intended and
 I¹m curious if there is a simple way to solve the problem.
 
 I have a mouseUp event the script of the datagrid.  It works well except
 that it is triggered even when there is click in a scroll bar.
 
 I¹m imagining that changing the row style from a table to a form that I can
 move the event to the behaviors?  I¹ll be making that change in the next
 version or so, but I¹d like to fix this the way it is first.

Hi Alex - how about just filtering out the elements you don't want?

on mouseUp
   put the short name of the target into tTarget
   switch tTarget
  case  dgAlternatingRows
  case [other things I don't want triggering my code]
 exit mouseUp
 break
  default
 -- do mouseUp stuff
   end switch
end mouseUp

Terry...

 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks in advance,

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