Re: [OT] Dead video card
On 08/17/2010 12:34 AM, Ian Wood wrote: On 16 Aug 2010, at 21:08, Jeff Massung wrote: No such thing as a Mac Compatible video card... or a PC Compatible one for that matter. That's just a matter of branding. Like Bob says, this is not true. Mac and Windows versions of the same graphics card models have different firmware. Apparently it's possible to flash Windows-compatible cards with the correct firmware to run in a Mac, but I've no idea how complex the process is. Ian___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Well; as I don't have a machine running Windows to flash RAM the whole thing looks a bit risky, so I shall stick to a card that is labelled as Mac compatible. I am waiting for an answer from AXLE re their nVidia cards . . . Here in Bulgaria the situation re Macs is a right pox. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross platform drawers
On 17/08/2010, at 3:41 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Monte Goulding wrote: The plugin is well suited to using drawers on OS X to integrate IG settings with the standalone builder interface. I'm just wondering what people think I should do on Windows? Has anyone done drawer emulation and is it worthwhile and appreciated my users? I think you'll find people who will argue both sides of what is or is not appropriate for Windows. From an implementation standpoint (not philosophical), I've only been able to figure out 2 ways of doing a drawer like window: a 2-stack approach, with the front stack being a palette so it always stacks in front a topLevel drawer stack, or a stack with 2 custom windowShapes -- a closed state and an opened state. Hmm... neither of these are options for the ig rev plugin. If you were open to modifying your design, you could build the drawer as a group within your mainStack -- a pane that opens inward from the left edge, instead of outside the mainStack. True, this would temporarily obscure the controls of the mainStack, but it would solve a multitude of challenges that you'll probably face when trying to implement an actual drawer. Hmm.. I can't do that without modifying revStandaloneSettings and that's going to cause maintenance issues. I'll see what it feels like with palettes on windows but I may need to come up with a plan b... Cheers Monte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Dead video card
On 08/17/2010 01:39 AM, Jeff Massung wrote: Guys, it's just hardware. If there's no code to run it on the hardware, then yes, it won't work. But, there's no such thing as a a piece of hardware that cannot possibly interface with another piece of hardware. One could make an ATI video card be run from a Z80 micro processor if one felt so inclined. It's just bytes and cycles, and maybe a little soldering. ;-) Um . . . yes: but ole slack brain over here in Bulgaria wouldn't know how to write a driver even if somebody was holding a gun to his head: nor, for that matter, is he prepared to sit down and study that type of coding for 2 weeks when what he needs is a video-card that works with his tatty old Mac right this minute . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross platform drawers
Sorry chaps: couldn't resist it; but Cross platform drawers sounds like something from Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. Personally, for all my RunRev needs I use a THONG . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross platform drawers
Recently, Monte Goulding wrote: If you were open to modifying your design, you could build the drawer as a group within your mainStack -- a pane that opens inward from the left edge, instead of outside the mainStack. True, this would temporarily obscure the controls of the mainStack, but it would solve a multitude of challenges that you'll probably face when trying to implement an actual drawer. Hmm.. I can't do that without modifying revStandaloneSettings and that's going to cause maintenance issues. I'll see what it feels like with palettes on windows but I may need to come up with a plan b... Monte, I took a closer look at your screenshot and it seems you're tacking on to the existing standalone builder (I thought at first it was your own creation). If you're not handling the mainStack in your design, then probably none of my suggestions apply. Maybe a drawer type approach isn't even necessary -- perhaps just a separate add-on window that knows about the standalone builder would suffice. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross platform drawers
Monte, I took a closer look at your screenshot and it seems you're tacking on to the existing standalone builder (I thought at first it was your own creation). If you're not handling the mainStack in your design, then probably none of my suggestions apply. Maybe a drawer type approach isn't even necessary -- perhaps just a separate add-on window that knows about the standalone builder would suffice. Yeah, just having a play with it now. I think it's just as functional with palette's but not as sexy. Just store the topLeft of the stack in the prefs so when it swaps stacks it doesn't jump around and retains loc between sessions and it feels ok. I'll leave the drawers in for os x just so Richmond can keep thinking about Hugo Weaving in drag ;-) Cheers Monte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Dead video card
On 08/17/2010 12:16 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: Would this http://eshop.macsales.com/item/ATI%20Technologies/1028342302B/ or this http://eshop.macsales.com/item/ATI%20Technologies/1028342302/ be the right card for your machine? I don't know enough about the earlier mac models to know for sure. Thank you so much: I have just ordered the more expensive option: wonder how long FedEx will take to get it to me in Bulgaria AND; here's a silly joke (as always, it's on me!): I had to check if my MDD G4 had AGP slots; so I downloaded the Windows version of MacTracker onto my Linux box and ran it under WINE . . . just about as bl**dy-minded as one can get; but the only way I could manage it! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Pattern recognition of basic shapes in Rev
Thanks Mark - great paper! There does not seem to be a lot of code around - nearest I can find is herehttp://www.codeproject.com/KB/GDI-plus/blobby.aspx. I'd have thought it was something built into the touch screen OS's as it is kind of essential for vector graphic drawing on touch screens? On 17 August 2010 04:58, AcidJazz mpe...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a link to a technical article that discusses the fuzzy logic involved in pattern recognition of shapes. It doesn't provide the exact algorithm, but should get you a little further down the road in your search. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
file owner group names
Hi I'm wondering if there is a way to translate the numeric owner and group returned in the detailed files into the actual names. At present I'm thinking of parsing ls -l but if there's another way to do it I'd be interested to know. Cheers Monte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
UUID
Hi I found this little gem in the rev SB library. _internal call generate_uuid;put the result I'm wondering why it's not a public function and if there's a problem with me using it. Cheers Monte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: UUID
yup.. was posted to the list a year or so ago.. does not work in compiled apps, only in the IDE and it seems only for the U3 builds.. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross platform drawers
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry chaps: couldn't resist it; but Cross platform drawers sounds like something from Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. Personally, for all my RunRev needs I use a THONG . . . :) ...nor could I resist the urge: http://www.docstoolchest.com/dual_bootys.jpg Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: UUID
Hey Monte, http://marksmith.on-rev.com/revstuff/ He has got a very nice lib for UUIDs Cheers, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: UUID
On 17/08/2010, at 10:06 PM, Shao Sean wrote: yup.. was posted to the list a year or so ago.. does not work in compiled apps, only in the IDE and it seems only for the U3 builds.. Ah, might be ok for my situation but it's a pity it's not a public function? Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: UUID
Hi all,
Am 17.08.2010 um 14:18 schrieb Malte Pfaff-Brill:
Hey Monte,
http://marksmith.on-rev.com/revstuff/
He has got a very nice lib for UUIDs
Cheers,
Malte
Yep, or just use shell on Mac and Win (no idea about Linux, but might be
similar to MacOS)!
Put these two lines into a custom property of your stack or wherever
Set TypeLib = CreateObject(Scriptlet.TypeLib)
result = TypeLib.Guid
And then use this function to get a UUID:
function get_uuid
if the platform = MacOS then
put shell(uuidgen) into tUUID
else
do (the YOUR_CP_NAME_HERE of stack your stack with the CP) as VBScript
put the result into tUUID
## Comes in {} on Windows!
delete char -1 of tUUID
delete char 1 of tUUID
end if
return tUUID
end get_uuid
Best
Klaus
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Re: UUID
Woah, now there's a handy site ;-) On 17/08/2010, at 10:18 PM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote: Hey Monte, http://marksmith.on-rev.com/revstuff/ He has got a very nice lib for UUIDs Cheers, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: UUID
Gotta love this list ;-)
On 17/08/2010, at 10:24 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote:
Hi all,
Am 17.08.2010 um 14:18 schrieb Malte Pfaff-Brill:
Hey Monte,
http://marksmith.on-rev.com/revstuff/
He has got a very nice lib for UUIDs
Cheers,
Malte
Yep, or just use shell on Mac and Win (no idea about Linux, but might be
similar to MacOS)!
Put these two lines into a custom property of your stack or wherever
Set TypeLib = CreateObject(Scriptlet.TypeLib)
result = TypeLib.Guid
And then use this function to get a UUID:
function get_uuid
if the platform = MacOS then
put shell(uuidgen) into tUUID
else
do (the YOUR_CP_NAME_HERE of stack your stack with the CP) as VBScript
put the result into tUUID
## Comes in {} on Windows!
delete char -1 of tUUID
delete char 1 of tUUID
end if
return tUUID
end get_uuid
Best
Klaus
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Re: file owner group names
On Unix machines you can lookup - the name of group id by parsing the file /etc/group - the name of a user id by parsing the file /etc/passwd Should be fairly straightforward to read into a variable and turn that into something searchable. In both files, the line delimiter is a newline character and the item delimiter is a colon character - and in both files the id is the third item. HTH, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: From: Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com Subject: file owner group names To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 4:58 AM Hi I'm wondering if there is a way to translate the numeric owner and group returned in the detailed files into the actual names. At present I'm thinking of parsing ls -l but if there's another way to do it I'd be interested to know. Cheers Monte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Code signing certificate
On Aug 16, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: I understand that I need to purchase and continually renew a Code Signing Certificate for both the installer .exe and the application .exe. This way Windows won't complain that the application is from an unknown publisher. Does anyone have any experience and recommendations for getting and implementing these? I used Tucows which in turn uses Comodo - $75/yr. You need to sign up for an account at Tucows and then you can purchase the code signing certificate. I believe the starting point is here: https://author.tucows.com/ -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross platform drawers
Monte Goulding wrote: I'll see what it feels like with palettes on windows but I may need to come up with a plan b... You may find a disclosure triangle a suitable Plan B. They're still recommended in the Mac HIG, and in the HIGs for Win and Gnome too. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How safe is the data in the datagrid?
Hey all, I am currently working on a database app that needs to work whether it is connected to the db or not. For this, I just check the connection before each transaction and if it is connected it puts the data into a mySQL. If it is not connected, I have it storing it in a datagrid queue until the next connection is detected. Once connected, my program loops through the dataGrid and inserts it into the DB. After a successful insertion that index gets deleted from the dataGrid. My original idea was to store these locally as a tab delimited text file or as xml. How safe is the data in the dataGrid from program crashes and in between sessions of use? The local data must be kept intact until it can be successfully loaded into the DB. Should I dump to an xml or txt file as a backup plan, or is this unnecessary? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-safe-is-the-data-in-the-datagrid-tp2328573p2328573.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Group Culling...
Hi all, I'm wondering if there is a way to lock a group in place so that it maintains a specific rect BUT at the same time show any objects within that group which are partly, or completely, outside the rect. Group must maintain size and position so bounding rect is not an option. Trying to avoid having to create needless workaround. Horrible feeling the answer is *no*. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross platform drawers
On Mon Aug, 2010, Monte Goulding monte at sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi I'm working on InstallGadget 2 and an InstallGadget plugin for rev. The plugin is well suited to using drawers on OS X to integrate IG settings with the standalone builder interface. I'm just wondering what people think I should do on Windows? Has anyone done drawer emulation and is it worthwhile and appreciated my users? Check out InstallGadget 2 the plugin on Facebook and you will see what I mean about the drawers ;-) Cheers Monte I do not know if you could use an old stack of mine for your Install Gadget, but it is indeed a drawer emulation for all platforms: http://www.sanke.org/Software/Drawers.zip The stack demonstrates the use of drawers without using the new drawer command introduced in Revolution 2.1.2. Therefore these forms of drawers can be implemented also with older versions of Metacard and Revolution and on any platform. Drawers can slide out and back at any point of the rectangle of the main stack and even in diagonal directions. From the information pane of the stack itself: Using and modifying the scripts of the drawer-buttons you can create any number of drawer stacks that can slide out in any direction. 1. Set the starting point of the drawer to any point of the sides of the drawerbase. 2. Define the direction of the drawer movement in the repeat loop 3. Modify the respective close buttons Drawers can be created for any platform and with Rev or Metacard versions lower than 2.1 or 2.5 as these examples do *not* use the new drawer command available at present - August 2003 - only in version 2.1 of Revolution (2.5.1B3 of Metacard) and only for MacOS X. Best regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Dead video card
isn't there a difference between PPC and Intel video cards? Something related to the ordering of bits in the bytes (big Endian v.s. small Endian, or something like that?) Best, François Le 16 août 2010 à 22:08, Jeff Massung a écrit : No such thing as a Mac Compatible video card... or a PC Compatible one for that matter. That's just a matter of branding. The only important question is whether or not there are good video drivers for your particular OS for that piece of hardware. If you go look at the ATI or nVidia websites, look over their drivers and see if there's a driver set for the OS you have and the card you are considering buying. Jeff M. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: Wow! I returned from 4 days in the mountains to find the video-card on my G4 MDD had 'died'; this is a nuisance as I will be unable to release my Devawriter Pro before I can see into my computer. Has anybody any links to Mac compatible video-cards?? I find that Amazon is full of video-cards but they give no indication if they are Mac compatible. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Culling...
Hi Simon, Use the property inspector to set the locLock of the group to true and give it scroll bars. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 From 15th August, we'll have time for new projects! Be the first in line and contact me now! Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at http://qurl.tk/ce On 17 aug 2010, at 17:52, Simon Lord wrote: Hi all, I'm wondering if there is a way to lock a group in place so that it maintains a specific rect BUT at the same time show any objects within that group which are partly, or completely, outside the rect. Group must maintain size and position so bounding rect is not an option. Trying to avoid having to create needless workaround. Horrible feeling the answer is *no*. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is it possible to copy and paste html links from a browser, or MS Word, into a Rev app?
Not sure if it relates, but I have noticed that if I copy something, then launch a Microsoft application and try to paste it, it doesn't work. However, if I already have the Microsoft application running, and copy something from a foreign app, I can then paste it into the MS app. I believe this is because Microsoft takes over the clipboard, to ensure the proper translation of data in the clipboard to a format the MS app will recognize. Could this be what you are running into? Bob On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Jonathan Lynch wrote: Hmmm... All of the applications we use at work (except the ones I create) are microsoft applications. I will have to find something that is not from microsoft to test this. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Jonathan Lynch wrote: I am trying to figure out how to copy text that contains a link into a Rev field, such that the link information is preserved. It seems that some formatting, such as bolding, text size, and text font are preserved, but that link information is entirely stripped out. Many apps don't copy link data to the public clipboard. Can you paste from one of those programs into another and have the links preserved? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Do all things with love ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revNavigator
aw gee, thanks guys -- nice to know it lives on in some people's tool boxes. gc On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote: Super tool! I have been using it for years and I did make my very affordable payment back then. I too could not survive without it. Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Geoff Canyon Rev wrote: revNavigator hasn't been updated for several versions, so it's entirely possible that the dev environment has changed since I wrote it. Or I might just have done a bad job with it ;-) That said it still works -- I don't do much work with Rev anymore, but when I do I couldn't live without it. While I'm thinking about it, I hereby declare revNavigator to be free for anyone to use. gc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SoCal Rev User Group meeting: Thursday, August 19th
I recently moved to St. Louis -- where are you located? gc On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote: Hmm. I wonder how many rev users are in the St. Louis-ish area that would be interested in something similar. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/SoCal-Rev-User-Group-meeting-Thursday-August-19th-tp2322016p2324475.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SoCal Rev User Group meeting: Thursday, August 19th
Richard, I'm one day off -- I'm flying in on Friday to visit my son. :-( gc On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Geoff Canyon Rev gcanyon+...@gmail.com wrote: I recently moved to St. Louis -- where are you located? gc On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote: Hmm. I wonder how many rev users are in the St. Louis-ish area that would be interested in something similar. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/SoCal-Rev-User-Group-meeting-Thursday-August-19th-tp2322016p2324475.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How safe is the data in the datagrid?
I think you will have to eventually either dump your data to a text file whenever it's modified, or else if you intend to produce a compiled app, consider having your main app as a stack attached to your startup app, which cannot be modified. That way you can simply store the contents in a custom property in the datagrid, which is what I do. Bob On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Hey all, I am currently working on a database app that needs to work whether it is connected to the db or not. For this, I just check the connection before each transaction and if it is connected it puts the data into a mySQL. If it is not connected, I have it storing it in a datagrid queue until the next connection is detected. Once connected, my program loops through the dataGrid and inserts it into the DB. After a successful insertion that index gets deleted from the dataGrid. My original idea was to store these locally as a tab delimited text file or as xml. How safe is the data in the dataGrid from program crashes and in between sessions of use? The local data must be kept intact until it can be successfully loaded into the DB. Should I dump to an xml or txt file as a backup plan, or is this unnecessary? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-safe-is-the-data-in-the-datagrid-tp2328573p2328573.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Dead video card
Now that my memory is jogged, I recall that older PowerPC computers write data to the video cards in the opposite order that PC's did. Now that they have Intel based OS X systems for Mac, I think this has gone the way of the Dodo. But we are after all talking about an old G4. In fact, this was the reason that emulators like Virtual PC could never attain the performance on graphics intensive tasks that people needed. EVERYTHING graphics had to go through a translator. Nowadays, a lot of emulated tasks can access the processor directly with little or no translation, giving us the exceptional performance of emulators like VMWare and Parallels produces. Bob On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Ian Wood wrote: On 16 Aug 2010, at 21:08, Jeff Massung wrote: No such thing as a Mac Compatible video card... or a PC Compatible one for that matter. That's just a matter of branding. Like Bob says, this is not true. Mac and Windows versions of the same graphics card models have different firmware. Apparently it's possible to flash Windows-compatible cards with the correct firmware to run in a Mac, but I've no idea how complex the process is. Ian___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Dead video card
I thought you might say that. :-) You are saying that they are theoretically identical. We are saying that it is practically not. What we can do in theory is not going to help Richmond at this point, but I see what you are getting at. Bob On Aug 16, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Jeff Massung wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk wrote: On 16 Aug 2010, at 21:08, Jeff Massung wrote: No such thing as a Mac Compatible video card... or a PC Compatible one for that matter. That's just a matter of branding. Like Bob says, this is not true. Mac and Windows versions of the same graphics card models have different firmware. Apparently it's possible to flash Windows-compatible cards with the correct firmware to run in a Mac, but I've no idea how complex the process is. Guys, it's just hardware. If there's no code to run it on the hardware, then yes, it won't work. But, there's no such thing as a a piece of hardware that cannot possibly interface with another piece of hardware. One could make an ATI video card be run from a Z80 micro processor if one felt so inclined. It's just bytes and cycles, and maybe a little soldering. ;-) Jeff M. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Dead video card
I'm guessing compatibility is where the Forth language is concerned. Forth is terse, can be interpreted, has a tiny footprint and is known to be near machine code speed for some operations. But it's true you or your motherboard could get burned making assumptions about anything that isn't specifically tested for MacOS (and the version you want to deploy) AND the G4 hardware. It's a minefield so much research is necessary. Computerdom has already deemed my 'ancient' PCI G5 as worthless and will be furnishing no more updates. Google didn't even bother porting a G5 browser, Digidesign gave up a year ago. Eye-TV just quit updates for G5. The replacement hardware for this old stuff becomes 'rare' and thus more expensive. 2010/8/17 François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr isn't there a difference between PPC and Intel video cards? Something related to the ordering of bits in the bytes (big Endian v.s. small Endian, or something like that?) Best, François Le 16 août 2010 à 22:08, Jeff Massung a écrit : No such thing as a Mac Compatible video card... or a PC Compatible one for that matter. That's just a matter of branding. The only important question is whether or not there are good video drivers for your particular OS for that piece of hardware. If you go look at the ATI or nVidia websites, look over their drivers and see if there's a driver set for the OS you have and the card you are considering buying. Jeff M. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! I returned from 4 days in the mountains to find the video-card on my G4 MDD had 'died'; this is a nuisance as I will be unable to release my Devawriter Pro before I can see into my computer. Has anybody any links to Mac compatible video-cards?? I find that Amazon is full of video-cards but they give no indication if they are Mac compatible. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revNavigator
I thought it shipped in the plugins folder within every new install of Rev! sqb On 17 August 2010 10:27, Geoff Canyon Rev gcanyon+...@gmail.comgcanyon%2b...@gmail.com wrote: aw gee, thanks guys -- nice to know it lives on in some people's tool boxes. gc On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote: Super tool! I have been using it for years and I did make my very affordable payment back then. I too could not survive without it. Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Geoff Canyon Rev wrote: revNavigator hasn't been updated for several versions, so it's entirely possible that the dev environment has changed since I wrote it. Or I might just have done a bad job with it ;-) That said it still works -- I don't do much work with Rev anymore, but when I do I couldn't live without it. While I'm thinking about it, I hereby declare revNavigator to be free for anyone to use. gc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Dead video card
still those G5 are loved by video production students on a budget. They can pick them up cheap these days and they run Final Cut which is king among video stuff. (Wearing my film school graduate hat) On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: I'm guessing compatibility is where the Forth language is concerned. Forth is terse, can be interpreted, has a tiny footprint and is known to be near machine code speed for some operations. But it's true you or your motherboard could get burned making assumptions about anything that isn't specifically tested for MacOS (and the version you want to deploy) AND the G4 hardware. It's a minefield so much research is necessary. Computerdom has already deemed my 'ancient' PCI G5 as worthless and will be furnishing no more updates. Google didn't even bother porting a G5 browser, Digidesign gave up a year ago. Eye-TV just quit updates for G5. The replacement hardware for this old stuff becomes 'rare' and thus more expensive. 2010/8/17 François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr isn't there a difference between PPC and Intel video cards? Something related to the ordering of bits in the bytes (big Endian v.s. small Endian, or something like that?) Best, François Le 16 août 2010 à 22:08, Jeff Massung a écrit : No such thing as a Mac Compatible video card... or a PC Compatible one for that matter. That's just a matter of branding. The only important question is whether or not there are good video drivers for your particular OS for that piece of hardware. If you go look at the ATI or nVidia websites, look over their drivers and see if there's a driver set for the OS you have and the card you are considering buying. Jeff M. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! I returned from 4 days in the mountains to find the video-card on my G4 MDD had 'died'; this is a nuisance as I will be unable to release my Devawriter Pro before I can see into my computer. Has anybody any links to Mac compatible video-cards?? I find that Amazon is full of video-cards but they give no indication if they are Mac compatible. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Dead video card
I have always maintained that IT obsolescence occurs not when there is something different on the drawing board or the local computer store shelf, but when what you have can no longer run software or operating systems that are on the shelf today. In the case of software, it works the opposite direction. If you accept this, then yeah the G5 is obsolete. Sad too, because we have 6 G5 towers that are perfectly good, but will not take the latest OS and much software that we want to run. Bob On Aug 17, 2010, at 10:50 AM, stephen barncard wrote: Computerdom has already deemed my 'ancient' PCI G5 as worthless and will be furnishing no more updates. Google didn't even bother porting a G5 browser, Digidesign gave up a year ago. Eye-TV just quit updates for G5. The replacement hardware for this old stuff becomes 'rare' and thus more expensive. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revNavigator
Yes it does but they are shipping an old version. I just discovered the 3.0 version, wow, that is quite a tool! On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:53 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: I thought it shipped in the plugins folder within every new install of Rev! sqb On 17 August 2010 10:27, Geoff Canyon Rev gcanyon+...@gmail.com gcanyon%2b...@gmail.comgcanyon%2b...@gmail.comgcanyon%252b...@gmail.com wrote: aw gee, thanks guys -- nice to know it lives on in some people's tool boxes. gc On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote: Super tool! I have been using it for years and I did make my very affordable payment back then. I too could not survive without it. Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Geoff Canyon Rev wrote: revNavigator hasn't been updated for several versions, so it's entirely possible that the dev environment has changed since I wrote it. Or I might just have done a bad job with it ;-) That said it still works -- I don't do much work with Rev anymore, but when I do I couldn't live without it. While I'm thinking about it, I hereby declare revNavigator to be free for anyone to use. gc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SoCal Rev User Group meeting: Thursday, August 19th
About 45 minutes to the north east of Stl. Quiet little Carlinville, IL. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/SoCal-Rev-User-Group-meeting-Thursday-August-19th-tp2322016p2328783.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Dead video card
Exactly, my friend - FC Studio 5 is on my G5 right now. It looks to be my A/V platform for some time to come. They will have to take it from my 'cold dead hands' POWER COMPUTING http://www.streamstudio.com/powercomputing/pccpop03.shtml sqb On 17 August 2010 10:53, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: still those G5 are loved by video production students on a budget. They can pick them up cheap these days and they run Final Cut which is king among video stuff. (Wearing my film school graduate hat) On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: I'm guessing compatibility is where the Forth language is concerned. Forth is terse, can be interpreted, has a tiny footprint and is known to be near machine code speed for some operations. But it's true you or your motherboard could get burned making assumptions about anything that isn't specifically tested for MacOS (and the version you want to deploy) AND the G4 hardware. It's a minefield so much research is necessary. Computerdom has already deemed my 'ancient' PCI G5 as worthless and will be furnishing no more updates. Google didn't even bother porting a G5 browser, Digidesign gave up a year ago. Eye-TV just quit updates for G5. The replacement hardware for this old stuff becomes 'rare' and thus more expensive. 2010/8/17 François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr isn't there a difference between PPC and Intel video cards? Something related to the ordering of bits in the bytes (big Endian v.s. small Endian, or something like that?) Best, François Le 16 août 2010 à 22:08, Jeff Massung a écrit : No such thing as a Mac Compatible video card... or a PC Compatible one for that matter. That's just a matter of branding. The only important question is whether or not there are good video drivers for your particular OS for that piece of hardware. If you go look at the ATI or nVidia websites, look over their drivers and see if there's a driver set for the OS you have and the card you are considering buying. Jeff M. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! I returned from 4 days in the mountains to find the video-card on my G4 MDD had 'died'; this is a nuisance as I will be unable to release my Devawriter Pro before I can see into my computer. Has anybody any links to Mac compatible video-cards?? I find that Amazon is full of video-cards but they give no indication if they are Mac compatible. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How safe is the data in the datagrid?
I should have explained. The stack it is getting stored in is to be shipped as a stack and run with a launcher. What are the chances of data that is stored in a stack might be damaged or lost when the app crashes? Anyone had this happen? Hmm, and my autoupdate feature just downloads the new version of the stack. If it overwrites their copy, I assume any data stored within is gone too huh? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-safe-is-the-data-in-the-datagrid-tp2328573p2328793.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Code signing certificate
Neal and Trevor, Thanks very much. Once you get the certificate how do you attach it? Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. On Aug 17, 2010, at 6:47 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: I understand that I need to purchase and continually renew a Code Signing Certificate for both the installer .exe and the application .exe. This way Windows won't complain that the application is from an unknown publisher. Does anyone have any experience and recommendations for getting and implementing these? I used Tucows which in turn uses Comodo - $75/yr. You need to sign up for an account at Tucows and then you can purchase the code signing certificate. I believe the starting point is here: https://author.tucows.com/ -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How safe is the data in the datagrid?
Your assumptions would be accurate. Actually, since a datagrid is simply a bunch of Revolution buttons and fields, your chances are exactly the same that the dat in the datagrid would get corrupted as any other control. But I don't think I have ever seen a revolution lockup corrupt data in a field. If it did, it would probably corrupt the whole stack. I don't think that is something you have to worry about. This isn't Hypercard you know!! ;-) At any rate, I think you are getting on the right track thinking about data persistence through any state, which is going to involve saving the data to an external source no matter what. I would do it after the user exits the data grid. That is how any disk based database I have ever seen does it. No one expects data to be retained as the user is entering it! If the data is confidential, then you have to start thinking about encoding and decoding and such. Bob On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: I should have explained. The stack it is getting stored in is to be shipped as a stack and run with a launcher. What are the chances of data that is stored in a stack might be damaged or lost when the app crashes? Anyone had this happen? Hmm, and my autoupdate feature just downloads the new version of the stack. If it overwrites their copy, I assume any data stored within is gone too huh? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-safe-is-the-data-in-the-datagrid-tp2328573p2328793.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Dead video card
Bob Said: I have always maintained that IT obsolescence occurs not when there is something different on the drawing board or the local computer store shelf, but when what you have can no longer run software or operating systems that are on the shelf today. Sad but true. I personally came kicking and screaming into the world of GUI based software (Windows) and was otherwise quite pleased to be using just plain DOS up until I could no longer purchase anything worthwhile at the big name computer stores In fact, I went from daily use of a Commodore C-64 to DOS 6.22, directly to Win 98. Happy to say that I missed all previous versions of Windows and never have liked the one's I've been stuck with even at that. Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is it possible to copy and paste html links from a browser, orMS Word, into a Rev app?
Thanks for checking, Mark :) On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Jonathan- Monday, August 16, 2010, 5:27:10 PM, you wrote: Hm Would you mind trying copying from ms word? I have a hunch that microsoft is at the heart of my plight. Verified here. Good old Microsoft. The links are underlined and blue but not linked. Neither the html nor the rtf data contain the links. Normally I'd advise dropping Word and going with something more reasonable, but I don't suppose that's an option for you. FWIW you can't paste them into WordPad either. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Do all things with love ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is it possible to copy and paste html links from a browser, or MS Word, into a Rev app?
I think that microsoft must put the information into the public clipboard in a non-standard way. The fact that AbiWord can retrieve the link information from the public clipboard tells me that it is in there. AbiWord appears to have been specifically designed to be compatible with MS word, so AbiWord's developers might have deliberately wrote in code to access components of the clipboard that have been microsofticized. Fortunately for me, after talking with the team lead at work for whom this is relevant, I will probably be able to just build a custom interface for their needs, and avoid this issue entirely. If I cannot do that, then I am going to see if it is possible to use Cscript to retrieve microsoftized parts of the clipboard. Thanks, J On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Not sure if it relates, but I have noticed that if I copy something, then launch a Microsoft application and try to paste it, it doesn't work. However, if I already have the Microsoft application running, and copy something from a foreign app, I can then paste it into the MS app. I believe this is because Microsoft takes over the clipboard, to ensure the proper translation of data in the clipboard to a format the MS app will recognize. Could this be what you are running into? Bob On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Jonathan Lynch wrote: Hmmm... All of the applications we use at work (except the ones I create) are microsoft applications. I will have to find something that is not from microsoft to test this. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Jonathan Lynch wrote: I am trying to figure out how to copy text that contains a link into a Rev field, such that the link information is preserved. It seems that some formatting, such as bolding, text size, and text font are preserved, but that link information is entirely stripped out. Many apps don't copy link data to the public clipboard. Can you paste from one of those programs into another and have the links preserved? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Do all things with love ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Do all things with love ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Dead video card
Bob- Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 10:44:52 AM, you wrote: I thought you might say that. :-) You are saying that they are theoretically identical. We are saying that it is practically not. What we can do in theory is not going to help Richmond at this point, but I see what you are getting at. ...you know what they say... In theory there's no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cross platform drawers
Hi Wilhelm That looks good but I think I'm settled now on just using palettes unless on OS X. Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: file owner group names
Great, cheers Jan On 17/08/2010, at 10:40 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: On Unix machines you can lookup - the name of group id by parsing the file /etc/group - the name of a user id by parsing the file /etc/passwd Should be fairly straightforward to read into a variable and turn that into something searchable. In both files, the line delimiter is a newline character and the item delimiter is a colon character - and in both files the id is the third item. HTH, Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: From: Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com Subject: file owner group names To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 4:58 AM Hi I'm wondering if there is a way to translate the numeric owner and group returned in the detailed files into the actual names. At present I'm thinking of parsing ls -l but if there's another way to do it I'd be interested to know. Cheers Monte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can't get to first base with 'do as VBScript'
I am on Windows, Rev 2.9, and trying to use VBScript to do some Outlook stuff. I know almost no Visual Basic and have never invoked VBScript from Rev, so please consider me a simpleton. I've put sample code into a field and used the basic call get fld Statements replace CR with (quotevbCrLfquote) in it do it as VBScript In all the samples I have tried I get the result execution error. Question 1: can anyone tell what I might be doing wrong, based on what I have described? Question 2: Is there is an extremely elementary Hello World type validation code snippet that I could use to test basic execution? By the way, the alternateLanguages returns this: XML VBScript VBScript.Encode JScript JScript.Encode SignedJavaScript SignedVBScript Thanks! Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revZip resource fork
Hi Is there a way to preserve the resource fork using revZip on OS X? Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can't get to first base with 'do as VBScript'
If I were to evaluate (quotevbCrLfquote) I would get: vbCrLf I don't think that is what you are looking for. I think you must mean: replace CR with vbCrLf in it Bob On Aug 17, 2010, at 2:53 PM, Mark E. Powell wrote: I am on Windows, Rev 2.9, and trying to use VBScript to do some Outlook stuff. I know almost no Visual Basic and have never invoked VBScript from Rev, so please consider me a simpleton. I've put sample code into a field and used the basic call get fld Statements replace CR with (quotevbCrLfquote) in it do it as VBScript In all the samples I have tried I get the result execution error. Question 1: can anyone tell what I might be doing wrong, based on what I have described? Question 2: Is there is an extremely elementary Hello World type validation code snippet that I could use to test basic execution? By the way, the alternateLanguages returns this: XML VBScript VBScript.Encode JScript JScript.Encode SignedJavaScript SignedVBScript Thanks! Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cookies, Cookies - Got the Setting but Now the Getting
Hello everyone, Yes, it's the pathetic cookie guy again. Having finally learned how to set them, I was wondering if anyone might care to comment on whether my method for getting a user's cookie makes sense. My understanding of get $_SERVER[HTTP_COOKIE] is that it will only get the most recent cookies if a new request has been made, and I'm guessing that that means a POST or GET action. Say a user clicks a hyperlink named My Page, which is supposed to take them to a personal account page, populated with personal settings. I figure that it is easiest to embed a POST form action in every page, even if there are no form objects on some pages, so that no matter what page a user is on or what hyperlink they click, their cookies can be retrieved by a script in the destination page, checked against a database, and the appropriate content shown. Does that sound kind of in the ballpark? It probably makes more sense to attach the POST action directly specific hyperlinks, such as My Page, but I'm not sure how to do that. Regards, Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: file owner group names
Hi Monte et al, What I sent earlier is only a partial solution. At work I only had our Solaris server to play with; but once I got home, I found things on MacOS X to be more complicated. See: http://quartam.blogspot.com/2010/08/fun-with-detailed-files.html Unfortunately we're not there yet for MacOS X 10.5 Leopard or 10.6 Snow Leopard. So does anyone have any bright ideas? Jan Schenkel = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: file owner group names
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Monte et al, What I sent earlier is only a partial solution. At work I only had our Solaris server to play with; but once I got home, I found things on MacOS X to be more complicated. See: http://quartam.blogspot.com/2010/08/fun-with-detailed-files.html Unfortunately we're not there yet for MacOS X 10.5 Leopard or 10.6 Snow Leopard. So does anyone have any bright ideas? Why not use shell(stat the file) to acquire the information? Jan Schenkel = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revZip resource fork
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Is there a way to preserve the resource fork using revZip on OS X? Monte, I think you can shell() to ditto to flatten a file that has a resource fork... Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revZip resource fork
Monte- Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 2:57:53 PM, you wrote: Hi Is there a way to preserve the resource fork using revZip on OS X? No. Here's what I do: -- tZipFile is the path to the outputfile -- tFileName is the name of the input file -- set the defaultFolder to the folder containing the input file get shell(zip -r tZipFile tFileName) put url(binfile: tZipFile) into tData -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Dead video card
On 17 Aug 2010, at 18:42, Bob Sneidar wrote: In fact, this was the reason that emulators like Virtual PC could never attain the performance on graphics intensive tasks that people needed. EVERYTHING graphics had to go through a translator. Nowadays, a lot of emulated tasks can access the processor directly with little or no translation, giving us the exceptional performance of emulators like VMWare and Parallels produces. Virtual PC was an emulator, trying to run an OS on a different type of processor. VMWare and Parallels are virtualisation programs with no emulation involved. They do drastically different things under the hood, which is why the performance is so different. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cookies, Cookies - Got the Setting but Now the Getting
Hi Gregory, try : get $_SERVER[HTTP_COOKIE] without quoting HTTP_COOKIE Works fine there. HTH, Pierre Le 18 août 2010 à 00:04, Gregory Lypny a écrit : Hello everyone, Yes, it's the pathetic cookie guy again. Having finally learned how to set them, I was wondering if anyone might care to comment on whether my method for getting a user's cookie makes sense. My understanding of get $_SERVER[HTTP_COOKIE] is that it will only get the most recent cookies if a new request has been made, and I'm guessing that that means a POST or GET action. Say a user clicks a hyperlink named My Page, which is supposed to take them to a personal account page, populated with personal settings. I figure that it is easiest to embed a POST form action in every page, even if there are no form objects on some pages, so that no matter what page a user is on or what hyperlink they click, their cookies can be retrieved by a script in the destination page, checked against a database, and the appropriate content shown. Does that sound kind of in the ballpark? It probably makes more sense to attach the POST action directly specific hyperlinks, such as My Page, but I'm not sure how to do that. Regards, Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revNavigator
I was referring to the fact that for most people revNavigator just takes up space in their install (since they don't use it). But as Andre pointed out, there is a more recent version available, which is significantly more capable than the original. A question to those who still use it: does it still have features that make it worthwhile compared to other tools, or do you stay with it out of familiarity/inertia? I haven't checked out the competition over the last five or six years so I don't know if it has been superseded. gc On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:53 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: I thought it shipped in the plugins folder within every new install of Rev! sqb On 17 August 2010 10:27, Geoff Canyon Rev gcanyon+...@gmail.comgcanyon%2b...@gmail.com wrote: aw gee, thanks guys -- nice to know it lives on in some people's tool boxes. gc On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote: Super tool! I have been using it for years and I did make my very affordable payment back then. I too could not survive without it. Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Geoff Canyon Rev wrote: revNavigator hasn't been updated for several versions, so it's entirely possible that the dev environment has changed since I wrote it. Or I might just have done a bad job with it ;-) That said it still works -- I don't do much work with Rev anymore, but when I do I couldn't live without it. While I'm thinking about it, I hereby declare revNavigator to be free for anyone to use. gc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
(data grid) is there a good workaround for obtaining other column values in FillInData for a Data Grid Table?
Let's say you had a data grid table with three columns, and you wanted the first column to be the sum of the other two, like this: 10 7 3 5 2 3 7 4 3 How would you calculate the first column while the table is filling in? --- Originally, we looped through the data and did the calculations, then put the data into the data grid. Now the data set is getting so large that this is too slow, looping through once to calc, then again for the grid. So we're thinking doing the calculation in FillInData would be more efficient. If possible. It's easy to find any field value in a Data Grid form, since pData is an array with the row values, but we'd like to avoid switching to a form.___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: (data grid) is there a good workaround for obtaining other column values in FillInData for a Data Grid Table?
If you set a custom behavior for the column you want the sum in, and where it has the section for filling data, put put the dgDataOfIndex[ the dgIndex of me] of the dgControl of me into theDataA set the text of field 1 of me to (theDataA[Col 2] + theDataA[Col 3]) Should work fine. Not positive this is the best method, but seems to work dandy fine with small datasets. Haven't tried it with big ugly datasets. On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Josh Mellicker j...@dvcreators.net wrote: Let's say you had a data grid table with three columns, and you wanted the first column to be the sum of the other two, like this: 10 7 3 5 2 3 7 4 3 How would you calculate the first column while the table is filling in? --- Originally, we looped through the data and did the calculations, then put the data into the data grid. Now the data set is getting so large that this is too slow, looping through once to calc, then again for the grid. So we're thinking doing the calculation in FillInData would be more efficient. If possible. It's easy to find any field value in a Data Grid form, since pData is an array with the row values, but we'd like to avoid switching to a form.___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: file owner group names
--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Monte et al, What I sent earlier is only a partial solution. At work I only had our Solaris server to play with; but once I got home, I found things on MacOS X to be more complicated. See: http://quartam.blogspot.com/2010/08/fun-with-detailed-files.html Unfortunately we're not there yet for MacOS X 10.5 Leopard or 10.6 Snow Leopard. So does anyone have any bright ideas? Why not use shell(stat the file) to acquire the information? Hi Andre, It looks like stat has the advantage over ls -l when it comes to displaying the complete user and group name - my user name is janschenkel which is cut down to 8 characters using ls -l so that's not a workable solution. The reason to avoid a shell call to stat is simple: calling it for each individual file in a big folder could prove an expensive operation, while a simple mapping method should suffice to convert 501 to janschenkel when you're already using the detailed files. Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: file owner group names
--- On Tue, 8/17/10, I wrote before my first mug of coffee: --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Why not use shell(stat the file) to acquire the information? Hi Andre, It looks like stat has the advantage over ls -l when it comes to displaying the complete user and group name - my user name is janschenkel which is cut down to 8 characters using ls -l so that's not a workable solution. The reason to avoid a shell call to stat is simple: calling it for each individual file in a big folder could prove an expensive operation, while a simple mapping method should suffice to convert 501 to janschenkel when you're already using the detailed files. Thinking it over, we could build a caching mechanism and only fall back to stat if we don't have the id in our cache already. Poirot shall investigate :-) Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
