Re: Where does revMobile go?
Thank you Andre ! Le 22 sept. 2010 à 01:01, Scott Rossi a écrit : Recently, stephen barncard wrote: is dropbox a macos feature or an application? Dude: http://www.dropbox.com Andre's idea is very creative. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Colors in LiveCode
Or CheeseCode ! ;-) Le 22 sept. 2010 à 01:15, zryip theSlug a écrit : On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Peter Brigham MD pmb...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2010, at 8:34 AM, René Micout wrote: It does not take a big risk by combining France and Cheese ;-) How can you govern a country where there are over 300 kinds of cheese? -- Charles de Gaulle -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig René, Klaus and Peter, I feel there are so many people who use cheese in the list ... There is a putsh to rename liveCode in liveCheese? Okay, it's time for me to run!!! Huhuhu 8-) Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tRev name change and site re-org
I can't download Remo from Rodeo page ! Le 22 sept. 2010 à 06:35, Jerry Daniels a écrit : tRev users, Since Rev has changed its name to LiveCode, we have renamed tRev. We've been waiting in the wings with this. The new name is...[drum roll] Remo The remote-control object editor for LiveCode Has a nice, new icon that looks like...a remote control! You can download the new Remo from the tRev side via the download link on the right side of the pages. Please use this link or go to the alltiera.com site click the Downloads link on the right to get Remo there. We're in the process of converting and moving tRev sales info to the Utilities/Remo section of the Alltiera/Rodeo sales site (http://alltiera.com/utilities). We're also rebranding and moving tRev support info to the Alltiera/Zendesk site (http://alltiera.zendesk.com). We have oodles of tRev video that will need to be redone and tons of docs/posts that need some name changing. I'll post more on this here, as we finish with the move. Within the week, the old tRev site (http://reveditor.com) will be history. The new Remo support site (under construction within Zendesk) will be much better for FAQs, reporting incidents and providing support in general. Best, Jerry Daniels www.alltiera.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tRev name change and site re-org
go to reveditor.com On 22 September 2010 00:32, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: I can't download Remo from Rodeo page ! Le 22 sept. 2010 à 06:35, Jerry Daniels a écrit : tRev users, Since Rev has changed its name to LiveCode, we have renamed tRev. We've been waiting in the wings with this. The new name is...[drum roll] Remo The remote-control object editor for LiveCode Has a nice, new icon that looks like...a remote control! You can download the new Remo from the tRev side via the download link on the right side of the pages. Please use this link or go to the alltiera.com site click the Downloads link on the right to get Remo there. We're in the process of converting and moving tRev sales info to the Utilities/Remo section of the Alltiera/Rodeo sales site ( http://alltiera.com/utilities). We're also rebranding and moving tRev support info to the Alltiera/Zendesk site (http://alltiera.zendesk.com). We have oodles of tRev video that will need to be redone and tons of docs/posts that need some name changing. I'll post more on this here, as we finish with the move. Within the week, the old tRev site ( http://reveditor.com) will be history. The new Remo support site (under construction within Zendesk) will be much better for FAQs, reporting incidents and providing support in general. Best, Jerry Daniels www.alltiera.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tRev name change and site re-org
I have tRev 0.2.0.0 and it is possible to download it from reveditor... but Remo ? Le 22 sept. 2010 à 09:42, stephen barncard a écrit : go to reveditor.com On 22 September 2010 00:32, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: I can't download Remo from Rodeo page ! Le 22 sept. 2010 à 06:35, Jerry Daniels a écrit : tRev users, Since Rev has changed its name to LiveCode, we have renamed tRev. We've been waiting in the wings with this. The new name is...[drum roll] Remo The remote-control object editor for LiveCode Has a nice, new icon that looks like...a remote control! You can download the new Remo from the tRev side via the download link on the right side of the pages. Please use this link or go to the alltiera.com site click the Downloads link on the right to get Remo there. We're in the process of converting and moving tRev sales info to the Utilities/Remo section of the Alltiera/Rodeo sales site ( http://alltiera.com/utilities). We're also rebranding and moving tRev support info to the Alltiera/Zendesk site (http://alltiera.zendesk.com). We have oodles of tRev video that will need to be redone and tons of docs/posts that need some name changing. I'll post more on this here, as we finish with the move. Within the week, the old tRev site ( http://reveditor.com) will be history. The new Remo support site (under construction within Zendesk) will be much better for FAQs, reporting incidents and providing support in general. Best, Jerry Daniels www.alltiera.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Invisible HTMLText Character?
Recently, I wrote: I would colorize the bullet the same as the background but the text/bullets sit on a gradient. Also, I could be wrong but I don't believe the HTMLtext property (as opposed to standard HTML) has ever supported tables. Thanks for the suggestions though. Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote: You're right, it doesn't support tables. But there's the firstIndent property. I wonder if you could set that to a negative number (which would give you an outdent) and then when the line wraps, it would indent -- if you know what I mean. Yeah, something like this appears as a user-entered tip in the docs. I'll try this out. Thanks. In the meantime, I'm wondering if anyone has put together a reasonable text editing routine/method/function that uses a separate text formatting palette. I'm using the method of setting the backColor of selected text to create a fake text selection, and I'm getting all kinds of weird selection behavior/colorizing issues when dealing with multiple lines. I've been fighting with this for hours now, and for the life of me, I can't figure out a recipe that reliably adds a fake hilite to selected lines of text, allows colorizing and formatting of the selected text (while keeping the fake hilite intact), maintaining the hilite when switching back and forth between the main stack and the text palette, and eventually removing the fake hilite. I can't even get the fake hilite to match the real text selection because setting the backColor of the text results in a colored field that has different dimensions than a real text selection. If anyone has already done something like I would really appreciate seeing how you did it. Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tRev name change and site re-org
Jerry rebranded. It's still tRev. On 22 September 2010 00:48, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: I have tRev 0.2.0.0 and it is possible to download it from reveditor... but Remo ? Le 22 sept. 2010 à 09:42, stephen barncard a écrit : go to reveditor.com On 22 September 2010 00:32, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: I can't download Remo from Rodeo page ! Le 22 sept. 2010 à 06:35, Jerry Daniels a écrit : tRev users, Since Rev has changed its name to LiveCode, we have renamed tRev. We've been waiting in the wings with this. The new name is...[drum roll] Remo The remote-control object editor for LiveCode Has a nice, new icon that looks like...a remote control! You can download the new Remo from the tRev side via the download link on the right side of the pages. Please use this link or go to the alltiera.com site click the Downloads link on the right to get Remo there. We're in the process of converting and moving tRev sales info to the Utilities/Remo section of the Alltiera/Rodeo sales site ( http://alltiera.com/utilities). We're also rebranding and moving tRev support info to the Alltiera/Zendesk site (http://alltiera.zendesk.com ). We have oodles of tRev video that will need to be redone and tons of docs/posts that need some name changing. I'll post more on this here, as we finish with the move. Within the week, the old tRev site ( http://reveditor.com) will be history. The new Remo support site (under construction within Zendesk) will be much better for FAQs, reporting incidents and providing support in general. Best, Jerry Daniels www.alltiera.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Wonderful people
On 09/22/2010 01:04 AM, Michael Kann wrote: Richmond, Don't mention it. It was just collecting dust around here. Glad you can use it. Mike I must be missing something, because I recievd a computer from somebody other than you. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where does revMobile go?
But shouldn't it be included? I mean, in the new approach it is one of the distribution methods, just like Mac, Windows, Unix and Web. So I actually expected to find it in the Standalone application settings as one of the tabs. And let the license prevent or enable me to use it... Or am I thinking too far ahead now? Terry Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 3:26:09 PM, Jacque wrote: On 9/21/10 2:31 PM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: I upgraded to LiveCode 4.5. Because I have bought revMobile, Mobile Deployment is already purchased according to the store, as expected. However, I don't see it in the Development Plugins menu where it used to be. Nor can I find it anywhere else yet. Should I reinstall the plugin? If so, where? In 4.5, open Preferences, Files and Memory pane. Use the browse button at the bottom to select your My Revolution folder as the external folder location. That folder is located inside your Documents folder, and was created by previous versions of Rev. Restart LiveCode and it should load all your externals from that location. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Online Snippets library
Is there an online code snippets library out there for Rev erm LiveCode? Not full tutorials, we have them and they are great but just small chunks of code that individuals have used and tested. I know there is a lot of code out there but it's fragmented so a central snippet store I think would be useful. If not I'm willing to get one up and running. I'm thinking of having a tree type drill down to the snippets. Anyone will be able to post thier snippets, suggest new categories etc. The inclusion would not be automatic as to stop bad (spam, porn) content each submission would have to be approved. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Online-Snippets-library-tp2550057p2550057.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] The SbS 02 - Introduction to the datagrid is on the road again in version 1.1
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:30 AM, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote: Dear List, The Slug is pleased to announce the availability of a new version of the Introduction to the datagrid tutorial. The content is unchanged but we added new capabilities to the tutorial: - we can now print a topic - we can now search all the occurrences of a word in a topic. The search is launched during the input of the letters and the found words are instantly highlighted in yellow. Plus we fixed an odd crashing bug in the selection of the content of a topic. The SbS 02 - Introduction to the datagrid 1.1.0 is now available on revOnline (liveOnline??) and in the download section of the Slug's site. Even if there is nothing very revolutionary, the new code is free to use if you need it. 8-) We have updated the tutorial: The tutorial stack is now modeless to prevent the save message on close after the using of the search box. This should give you the better experience in the using of the tutorial. Thanks to update! All the best, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Print card
Hi, I have a problem that I can't see how to solve... I have a card sized to A4 I put some graphics and texts into the card and print to pdf. All run fine and the size of the graphics are exactly. Now I try to print from a laptop, and the stack is smaller, and the printed zone is the viewed zone. I read to adapt the printsize to the A4 but the last lines or the bottom zone of the card appear cutted. Any idea why? Salut, Josep set the printPaperSize to 595,842 set the printMargins to 0,0,0,0 open printing to pdf card_test.pdf print card 1 from 0,0 to 595,900 --from 0,0 to 595,842 --into pagerect close printing -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Print-card-tp2550070p2550070.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
Hi Andy, A collection of approximately 300 scripts, snippets and tips is available at http://runrev.info -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at http://qurl.tk/ce Create installers for Mac and Windows on *every* Rev-compatible platform. No additional software needed. On 22 sep 2010, at 12:26, AndyP wrote: Is there an online code snippets library out there for Rev erm LiveCode? Not full tutorials, we have them and they are great but just small chunks of code that individuals have used and tested. I know there is a lot of code out there but it's fragmented so a central snippet store I think would be useful. If not I'm willing to get one up and running. I'm thinking of having a tree type drill down to the snippets. Anyone will be able to post thier snippets, suggest new categories etc. The inclusion would not be automatic as to stop bad (spam, porn) content each submission would have to be approved. - Andy Piddock ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
The List archives are full of them excellent advice. sims On Sep 22, 2010, at 12:26 PM, AndyP wrote: Is there an online code snippets library out there for Rev erm LiveCode? Not full tutorials, we have them and they are great but just small chunks of code that individuals have used and tested. I know there is a lot of code out there but it's fragmented so a central snippet store I think would be useful. If not I'm willing to get one up and running. I'm thinking of having a tree type drill down to the snippets. Anyone will be able to post thier snippets, suggest new categories etc. The inclusion would not be automatic as to stop bad (spam, porn) content each submission would have to be approved. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Online-Snippets-library-tp2550057p2550057.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
Hi Andy great to hear, yes I think it is a great idea, and would love to work with you on it. Andre is also interested in helping get this up and running, last we spoke - unless impending marriage has derailed that somewhat - congrats Andre! I'm working on specific aspects of this, and it would be great to work on the online apsects. I've one solution to this that I've had working based around an open source code documentation wiki called Trac, but I think there is enough interest now to build on a more LiveCode centric approach using revIgnitor for the web framework? I'm concentrating on making sure the search and indexing of the fragments is done well, that they are in a repository and that both local and online sharing of these fragments is possible in a rich range of ways. What approach to the snippet library would you like to take? On 22 September 2010 11:26, AndyP smudge.a...@googlemail.com wrote: Is there an online code snippets library out there for Rev erm LiveCode? Not full tutorials, we have them and they are great but just small chunks of code that individuals have used and tested. I know there is a lot of code out there but it's fragmented so a central snippet store I think would be useful. If not I'm willing to get one up and running. I'm thinking of having a tree type drill down to the snippets. Anyone will be able to post thier snippets, suggest new categories etc. The inclusion would not be automatic as to stop bad (spam, porn) content each submission would have to be approved. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Online-Snippets-library-tp2550057p2550057.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
Hi David, Apart from LiveCode I'm a PHP/MySql jockey and I was thinking of keeping it simple, something like below: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/file/n2550163/layout.jpg This could be: 1. All PHP/MySql or 2. A LiveCode desktop offering connecting to the database or both. I prefer 1. as it's available from everywhere. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Online-Snippets-library-tp2550057p2550163.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
SoCal Rev User Group meeting: Thursday night
This Thursday, Sept. 23, the Southern California Rev User Group will hold our monthly meeting in Glendale. Jim Lambert has once again graciously offered the use of the MyShape offices where he works for this meeting (thanks Jim!). This month's feature presentation will be Bill Vlahos sharing some of what he's learned making and marketing his InfoWallet product, followed by roundtable discussions on the implications of LiveCode rebranding for our evangelism efforts and on GUI component architectures based around some of the ideas Mark Stuart brought up at last month's meeting. Early birds can meet at 6PM at Porto's restaurant across the street to share a meal. Details and directions: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/socalrev/ Hope to see you there - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
Hi all, Congratulations to Kevin and the Team for this new name! Many years ago, i expressed to them my concern about the name Revolution that has too many meanings attached. It was almost impossible to position this product in the mind of user, without finding a previous meaning which struggle for salience. http://www.ries.com/articles-positioningera.php By the way, when this thread started some days ago, i searched for livecode in google and runrev webpage appears in 7th position. Today is 5th. This is really good. Way to go! :D Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS-tp2546937p2550170.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
8th in France ! Le 22 sept. 2010 à 14:19, Alejandro Tejada a écrit : Hi all, Congratulations to Kevin and the Team for this new name! Many years ago, i expressed to them my concern about the name Revolution that has too many meanings attached. It was almost impossible to position this product in the mind of user, without finding a previous meaning which struggle for salience. http://www.ries.com/articles-positioningera.php By the way, when this thread started some days ago, i searched for livecode in google and runrev webpage appears in 7th position. Today is 5th. This is really good. Way to go! :D Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS-tp2546937p2550170.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
On 22 September 2010 13:12, AndyP smudge.a...@googlemail.com wrote: Apart from LiveCode I'm a PHP/MySql jockey and I was thinking of keeping it simple, something like below: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/file/n2550163/layout.jpg This could be: 1. All PHP/MySql or 2. A LiveCode desktop offering connecting to the database or both. I prefer 1. as it's available from everywhere. OK - simple is good. I'm currently working on an sqlite db for this, and frankly I'm not by any means a db expert, so having someone to work with on the schema and MySQL side would be great. I'd prefer to do this on On-Rev and using PostreSQL, mainly so Pierre could chip in every now and then :) - but MySql is fine. I'm currently working with sqlYoga and sqlite, and adding folksonomy tagging to the snippets db, it would be great to use the same schema, and then start to define the controller code so that local snippets and online snippets work well together? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
Hi ALex, You really shouldn't make the libraries substacks of your own stack, merely add a reference to them in the stackfiles, as I explained. Once you've done that, the standalone builder will automatically copy it to the standalone folder at build time. qrtReportsLib.rev includes substacks of its own, and therefore cannot become a substack of your mainstack. Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) --- On Tue, 9/21/10, Alex Adams a...@a2technology.com wrote: Jan, I tried what you suggested, but it still didn't work. I tried reassigning the mainstack of qtrReportLib to my main stack like Jacqueline recommended. That worked great with libUUID, but not with yours. Is it protected against such a thing? The only thing that has worked with qtrReportLib is to put a full path name into the start using stack statement. start using stack /LiveCodeUserExtensions/qtrReportsLib.rev Nothing short of this has worked. I'm concerned about what will happen when the standalones are built. Will I still need this stack installed on the user's computer in the expected directory? -- Alex Adams ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
By the way, Richmond should update this Wikipedia page with more recent information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RunRev Notice that his Wiki appears in the body of the article. Runtime Revolution contains a built-in help system. A wiki for user-authored documentation: richmondsrevolution.pbwiki.com. ;-) -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS-tp2546937p2550202.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
Andy, You might want to check out scripters scrapebook. Although I don't think it has been updated in a few years, it might give you some direction. The online aspect / shared repository is very interesting to me. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:12 AM, AndyP wrote: Hi David, Apart from LiveCode I'm a PHP/MySql jockey and I was thinking of keeping it simple, something like below: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/file/n2550163/layout.jpg This could be: 1. All PHP/MySql or 2. A LiveCode desktop offering connecting to the database or both. I prefer 1. as it's available from everywhere. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Online-Snippets-library-tp2550057p2550163.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Updating from Revolution 4.0 to LiveCode 4.5
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I had a few months spare in my Run-Rev 4 licence, so I downloaded LiveCode 4.5.0 (Happy Bunny !). In order to ensure that LiveCode is called when I double-click on a Revolution stack, I now have to delete my folder Revolution Studio (or something of that ilk). But the folder contains a multitude of files, and the LiveCode application is but one file. Before doing something stupid, how do I proceed ? Do I simply delete the Revolution.app in the Revolution Studio 4.0 folder, and replace it by the new LiveCode 4.5.app ? . Or is it just a tad more complicated ? -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
Scripter's Scrapebook link: http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Andy, You might want to check out scripters scrapebook. Although I don't think it has been updated in a few years, it might give you some direction. The online aspect / shared repository is very interesting to me. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:12 AM, AndyP wrote: Hi David, Apart from LiveCode I'm a PHP/MySql jockey and I was thinking of keeping it simple, something like below: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/file/n2550163/layout.jpg This could be: 1. All PHP/MySql or 2. A LiveCode desktop offering connecting to the database or both. I prefer 1. as it's available from everywhere. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Online-Snippets-library-tp2550057p2550163.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
Alejandro Tejada wrote: http://www.ries.com/articles-positioningera.php Excellent article. Google, Yahoo, Twitter, even Kodak are all colossally stupid names; for the reasons that article points, out positioning is about far more than names. The product experience is what people buy, and what they talk about. This post from earlier this morning echoes perhaps the most frequently-cited challenge in learning LiveCode, and perhaps the biggest opportunity for enhancing the product experience and therefore its mindshare: http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2010-September/145768.html Programming languages are different from toasters or any other consumer product. They have unique challenges, and the size and scope of the ecosystem plays an uncommonly strong role in perceptions of a programming tool's worthiness. Developers need to know they don't have to reinvent every wheel. The more prefab components included in the out-of-the-box experience, the more empowering the tool will be. When sufficiently empowering, the buzz will take care of the branding organically; conversely, even the best branding in the world can't make up the difference if that empowerment is lacking. Branding can help lead to downloads, but only the product experience can lead to conversion. Mark Stuart raised some of these issues in our last local Rev User Group meeting, and I'm looking forward to exploring them further in our next one tomorrow night. For all the benefits of LiveCode, a few other tools still have some significant advantages in being able to assemble great data-rich GUIs quickly. We'd like to see what we can do to help close that gap, perhaps as a project through the Rev Interoperability Project (RIP). Here's one small corner of that problem: data input validation. A great many apps need it, but input masking and validation must currently be scripted by hand, while most DBs provide them as simple properties. One of the RIP initiatives is to provide a common behavior object that can be assigned to fields, set a property or two, and masking and validation would happen automatically. This initiative could use some help; most of us have been busy with our own products. If anyone here would like to lend a hand you're very welcome to join in: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop/ The code will be released as either public domain or MIT license, so this may be a good starting point for those interested in furthering FOSS goals in the LiveCode ecosystem, a relatively small task in which the process can be refined leading the way to bigger initiatives, and the output from which would be enormously valuable right now. By the way, when this thread started some days ago, i searched for livecode in google and runrev webpage appears in 7th position. Today is 5th. This is really good. If the prospect already knows your name and is sufficiently motivated to search for it, most of the job is already done and they will find you no matter what your name is: http://www.google.com/search?q=revolution+programming Search engine optimization is the challenge of helping people who don't yet know who you are to find you: http://www.google.com/search?q=rapid+application+development Relevant backlinks, keyword-based domains, domain longevity, appropriate keyword richness, and consistent keyword usage in backlinks help make that happen. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
There are a bunch of collections out there -- Scripter's Scrapbook, sample scripts in the Rev search engine, Richard Gaskin's RevNet plugin, etc. The problem as I see it with starting up yet another online repository for snippets is that these resources are already scattered in a number of places. I think that the best idea would be to contact everyone with existing collections of scripts to get permission to include them in a central site. Now that would be useful -- one place to go, one place to post! I'd suggest a simple online database of scripts with tags, browsable and searchable in a browser, with a transparent API so that a Rev (whoops! LiveCode!) stack can be distributed to access it from a plugin within LiveCode. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Andy, You might want to check out scripters scrapebook. Although I don't think it has been updated in a few years, it might give you some direction. The online aspect / shared repository is very interesting to me. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:12 AM, AndyP wrote: Hi David, Apart from LiveCode I'm a PHP/MySql jockey and I was thinking of keeping it simple, something like below: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/file/n2550163/layout.jpg This could be: 1. All PHP/MySql or 2. A LiveCode desktop offering connecting to the database or both. I prefer 1. as it's available from everywhere. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Online-Snippets-library-tp2550057p2550163.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Updating from Revolution 4.0 to LiveCode 4.5
I really like the new brand name and am very happy about that, congratulations, it has always been a critical issue to describe revolution as a tool to other people!! LiveCode will make life much simpler, on that comunication issue. So yeah! great Hurrah! Now on the money front, wouhaou!! I bought a windows version of runrev Studio for a friend of mine as a present, it is just a month outdated, and the switch from 4.00 to 4.5 for the equivalent licenses seem to costs 149 + 99 + 99 + 99 = 446 bucks ! Did I do something wrong??? That is twice as much as repetitive bargain price to which studio was offered and 4 times the yearly upgrade license for studio. Big jump! Alternatively, since he would do some work for me, maybe he can just switch from studio to personnal Livecode, since I will anyway incorporate myself the result and compile on my commercial license the end result, but I do not see that option. Has anybody a clue? I hope this gives more air to the development team and better quality to us.. this is a many years regular investment from me.. ! But I also wonder if that pricing scheme will be so advantageous to runrev (and us in return!?). I remember i did support this modular approach on the survey, before I was confronted to it. But now It may well turn out that the smaller developpers will have to pay up much more, an maybe too much for some of them. To sell just one little app on all platforms and mobile will cost 1000 bucks for the initial upgrade and after that I did not quite get it : 700 bucks per year or 1400? And the big ones, or the ones organized in networks will pay much less per worker seat since they can centralise compiling of apps on one seat and develop on many seats with access to all functions using a personnal license. So they will be able to compile many applications on just one seat... So the message is clearly, get big or die as a developper.. unless lonely developpers finally get a chance to unite a little more and get organized, like bigger ones! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Updating-from-Revolution-4-0-to-LiveCode-4-5-tp2550222p2550341.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
Thanks Thomas, Well what can I say. I've just downloaded the trial version and well...job done! The last update to the app was June 24 2010 so far from dead. Very impressive product, made with Rev. We should all be supporting this great product. I will be! - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Online-Snippets-library-tp2550057p2550362.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
AndyP wrote: On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Scripter's Scrapebook link: http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm Thanks Thomas, Well what can I say. I've just downloaded the trial version and well...job done! The last update to the app was June 24 2010 so far from dead. Very impressive product, made with Rev. We should all be supporting this great product. I will be! Few dev tools have the feature-completeness of Scripter's Scrapbook. Just when you think you've seen everything it offers, you'll stumble across some other affordance he's included and find yourself saying, Wow, he thought of that too! Hugh took the time to draft a brief article about it for LiveCode Journal (formerly RevJournal): http://www.livecodejournal.com/features/scripters-scrapbook.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
Peter, After reviewing all the links posted I have to agree with you, however to get this centralised prehaps this is something that RunRev should consider setting up. Come on RunRev lets have some feedback on this one It's interesting how when I started this thread I was sure that a new snippet base was needed and how the feedback here has completely turned that around! - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Online-Snippets-library-tp2550057p2550383.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[revMobile] Horizontal Orientation
Hi All, I've been playing with revMobile and have successfully loaded an app on my iPhone in the vertical orientation and except for an occasional screen going black issue all works as I expected. However, I've been trying to develop a second app in the horizontal orientation not one that can be rotated, just one to work only in horizontal. For that I tried using info from the alpha handbook To change the orientation of the user interface use the following command: iphoneRotateInterface orientation Here orientation is one of: • • • • portrait – the screen is not rotated portrait upside down – the screen is rotated 180 degrees landscape left – the screen is rotated 90 degrees counter-clockwise landscape right – the screen is rotated 90 degrees clockwise I placed the command in the preopenstack handler... to no avail. I also simply reversed the width/height of my new stack from the version that I already had working... well, the new stack shows up on the iPad simulator, but not the iPhone simulator even when I rotate the phone to the right or left. Obviously I missing something... I hope it is something very basic. Thanks in advance for your thoughts. take care, randy hengst___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
On 09/22/2010 03:39 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: By the way, Richmond should update this Wikipedia page with more recent information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RunRev Notice that his Wiki appears in the body of the article. Runtime Revolution contains a built-in help system. A wiki for user-authored documentation: richmondsrevolution.pbwiki.com. ;-) Quite frankly that project died a death quite a few years ago when there was insufficient uptake of editors and contributors. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Web, Mobile and Server documentation
Hi all, On the RunRev website, on the Store page, it references the following when I mouse over the Commercial LiveCode Complete icon: The All-In toolkit to solve complex problems fast For serious developers everywhere, the Master bundle. Get LiveCode Development Tools, every deployment option including Desktop, Web, Mobile and Server Since I have this license, I was wondering where's the documentation on how to use and build the Web, the Mobile and Server features? I've looked thru the User Guide and haven't found any reference to these features. I've looked on the RunRev web site, but everything is not up to date. So are we waiting for this documentation, or is it written up already? Can someone point me in the right direction concerning this? Thanx, Mark Stuart ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Online Snippets library
Thanks Thomas, Well what can I say. I've just downloaded the trial version and well...job done! The last update to the app was June 24 2010 so far from dead. Very impressive product, made with Rev. We should all be supporting this great product. I will be! Also Scripter's Scrapbook has an online sharing component that's part of the package that lets users post snippets for others to use that they can then download into their own copy of Scripter's Scrapbook. It doesn't get a lot of activity, but that's probably because most people just don't know about it... I use it for all of my code snippets, info on programming, and even to store links to various resources. It's a great product! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
Hi Richmond, Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote: Quite frankly that project died a death quite a few years ago when there was insufficient uptake of editors and contributors. Previously, i though that this Wiki was your personal journal in the winding path of learning this platform. If you are not updating it anymore, Why it is still included in the Wikipedia? I noticed that Ken Ray's Tips webpages are not included either... Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/GOOSE-BUMPS-tp2546937p2550532.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[Reference] Good information about Mac OS X command line tools
Folks, Sorry for the cross post but I think this interest both lists. Mr. Amit Singh has this resource since 2003: http://osxbook.com/book/bonus/ancient/whatismacosx/tools.html There are lots of good tools in there, they all come with Mac OS X. Debugging rogue processess or server side stuff is easier once you know how to use a couple tools presented here. Specially fs_usage and tcpdump. andre -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: GOOSE BUMPS
On 09/22/2010 06:31 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Richmond, Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote: Quite frankly that project died a death quite a few years ago when there was insufficient uptake of editors and contributors. Previously, i though that this Wiki was your personal journal in the winding path of learning this platform. Cripes; my path was far more convoluted than that . . . :) If you are not updating it anymore, Why it is still included in the Wikipedia? Ask whoever it is who edits the Wikipedia page on The IDE formerly known as 'RunRev' . I noticed that Ken Ray's Tips webpages are not included either... Al ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Reference] Good information about Mac OS X command line tools
Andre- Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 8:30:55 AM, you wrote: Folks, Sorry for the cross post but I think this interest both lists. Mr. Amit Singh has this resource since 2003: http://osxbook.com/book/bonus/ancient/whatismacosx/tools.html Great book. I picked up my hardcover copy at MacWorld Expo a few years agao and consult my copy on a regular basis. There are lots of good tools in there, they all come with Mac OS X. Debugging rogue processess or server side stuff is easier once you know how to use a couple tools presented here. Specially fs_usage and tcpdump. tcpdump is a good tool, but if you need to get serious about examining network traffic you should try ngrep and/or WireShark. http://ngrep.sourceforge.net/ http://www.wireshark.org/ -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where does revMobile go?
DropBox is an application. You can signup here: http://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTc4MTA2NDQ5 By signing up to a referral link, we both gain 250mb additional space so it's a win-win situation. :) Done! -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: general name for...
What is the the general name for handler for scripting languages - not that anything is going to be perfect, but apparently handler refers to Handler, an asynchronous callbackhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callback_%28computer_science%29subroutine in computing, so what term could be used to refer to functions, command, methods, and handlers across scripting languages - code chunks? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What is the name of that function...
Why, minus nine of course! Bob On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Tereza Snyder wrote: On Sep 18, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 3:23:22 PM, you wrote: Hmmmph! it's an OPERATOR not a function! And it doesn't work with negative numbers*! mod is also an operator. And negative numbers? I wouldn't expect those to work - it work that way for word problems with either operator: If Johnny owes nine dollars and gives five of those dollars he doesn't have to Fred, how many does he have left over? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: general name for...
I tend to call everything handler... functions and commands I call handler even if in LiveCode jargon a handler is not a function but just a command... They are not methods or procedures... On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:27 PM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tvwrote: What is the the general name for handler for scripting languages - not that anything is going to be perfect, but apparently handler refers to Handler, an asynchronous callbackhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callback_%28computer_science%29 subroutine in computing, so what term could be used to refer to functions, command, methods, and handlers across scripting languages - code chunks? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Installing 4.0 on OS X gets error 565.1994
Hmmm... maybe permissions? Try installing under the root user account. Even before that, I would definitely check your hard drive for any directory errors before proceeding, and run Repair Permissions as well. Sounds like I'm a lowbie tech support guy reading from a script, but I would eliminate those things as possible causes first. Bob On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Dar Scott wrote: I realize this is an obscure error and folks here might not know, and even Rev support thinks it unlikely for people here to know, but I'm running out of ideas. I'm trying to install the current Revolution 4.0 on a simple OS X 10.4.11. I tried both installers. As soon as it gets to Installing... it jumps to Cancelling..., spelled with two Ls. It hangs. I click cancel (an L drops out of the spelling of canceling) and I get error 565.1594. I have several earlier versions installed as well as a couple versions of Rev Media. I welcome any ideas on what I might try. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Showing Invisible Fields
I would check to make sure you are passing the messages when you are done with them. Just guessing tho'. Bob On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: I do intercept several messages in front scripts (mouseUp, menuPick come to mind). I tried to relayer the field in the size and position tab of the property inspector but the arrows to manipulate the layer are greyed out and if I type in a new layer number and tab, I get a beep and the layer goes back to the original value. Pete Haworth On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:00 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Oh just read your post more carefully. That is weird. I wonder if there is some message you are intercepting that is keeping the engine from showing everything. Just shooting in the dark here. Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Open printing to PDF bug?
Hi there, It seems I have the same problem! I use almost the same code as Joseph (asked earlier today) to print on A4 paper. When I want a PDF preview on OSX everything is/looks fine. When using the code below and adding 'open printing to PDF' about 1/4 of the printed text is cut off. Is this a bug or are we doing something wrong? --- open printing to pdf test.pdf set the printRotated to true set the printMargins to 72,36,72,36 set the printScale to 1.1 print this card from 193,90 to 833,570 close printing --- greetings, William ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Invisible HTMLText Character?
Scott, Here is a thought. Try this: Create two narrow fields. The first field consists of one line of text that wraps into two lines in the field. (Perhaps a bullet and you want to indent the wrapped portion of the line.) Run this script: on mouseUp put into field 2 wait 10 tick --So you can see the changes put the htmltext of field 1 into tHTMLtext --Find out where the lines break using the formattedText put the formattedtext of field 1 into tText --The first line is the beginning of the bullet --The second line is to be indented. put line 2 of tText into tString put the offset(tString, tHTMLtext) into tNum --Create nonbreaking spaces --If you use breaking spaces they are ignored by HTML --at the start of a line. repeat 4 times --More or less put nbsp; after temp end repeat put temp before char tNum in tHTMLtext set the htmltext of field 2 to tHTMLtext end mouseUp The second line (the wrapped line) will be indented by 4 nonbreaking spaces beyond the first line. There may be problems if there is formatting in the wrapped line. My apologies to and the other respondents to this thread. Sorry, I haven't been paying attention. Jim Hurley ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: general name for...
Sounds good - then a function in Javascript would be a type of handler? On 22 September 2010 17:31, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: I tend to call everything handler... functions and commands I call handler even if in LiveCode jargon a handler is not a function but just a command... They are not methods or procedures... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: general name for...
I don't think you would call a function in javascript a handler. My feeling is that there isn't a universally accepted term that would apply across all the language types. Code chunk or snippet is as generic as you would get without getting strange looks. Handler to me has connotations out of the xTalk languages because at the time of Hypercard they didn't want to scare off potentially non programming hypercarders. At that time we were making the transition to event based programming where events were trapped and handled. Wayne On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:52 PM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tvwrote: Sounds good - then a function in Javascript would be a type of handler? On 22 September 2010 17:31, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: I tend to call everything handler... functions and commands I call handler even if in LiveCode jargon a handler is not a function but just a command... They are not methods or procedures... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: general name for...
On 22 September 2010 18:01, wayne durden wdur...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think you would call a function in javascript a handler. My feeling is that there isn't a universally accepted term that would apply across all the language types. Code chunk or snippet is as generic as you would get without getting strange looks. I think I'll go with handler as I want it to refer to something that is given a name in the language by the programmer, not an arbitrary text file worth of code - that's a different level of chunking. Anyway I'm only naming the database fields for now :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: general name for...
Hi David, AFAIK in procedural languages this would be a subroutine, in OOP languages a method Now, in which category does liveCode fit? g http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_%28computer_science%29 Cheers, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Invisible HTMLText Character?
Hey Jim: Thanks for the suggestion. I'm considering using multiple fields but am not sure yet as bulleting needs to be able to applied and removed at will, plus I have to support up to two levels of indenting. But one item in your code caught my eye: formattedText. I've used all of the formatted... properties before except this one. Thanks for that! Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, James Hurley wrote: Scott, Here is a thought. Try this: Create two narrow fields. The first field consists of one line of text that wraps into two lines in the field. (Perhaps a bullet and you want to indent the wrapped portion of the line.) Run this script: on mouseUp put into field 2 wait 10 tick --So you can see the changes put the htmltext of field 1 into tHTMLtext --Find out where the lines break using the formattedText put the formattedtext of field 1 into tText --The first line is the beginning of the bullet --The second line is to be indented. put line 2 of tText into tString put the offset(tString, tHTMLtext) into tNum --Create nonbreaking spaces --If you use breaking spaces they are ignored by HTML --at the start of a line. repeat 4 times --More or less put nbsp; after temp end repeat put temp before char tNum in tHTMLtext set the htmltext of field 2 to tHTMLtext end mouseUp The second line (the wrapped line) will be indented by 4 nonbreaking spaces beyond the first line. There may be problems if there is formatting in the wrapped line. My apologies to and the other respondents to this thread. Sorry, I haven't been paying attention. Jim Hurley ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where does revMobile go?
On 9/22/10 5:04 AM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: But shouldn't it be included? I mean, in the new approach it is one of the distribution methods, just like Mac, Windows, Unix and Web. So I actually expected to find it in the Standalone application settings as one of the tabs. And let the license prevent or enable me to use it... Or am I thinking too far ahead now? RevMobile is implemented as a plugin. The plugin is basically just a bridge that connects with Apple's simulator app and loads your stack into the simulator. RR may decide to implement it differently in the future I suppose, but for now that's how it works. So yeah, maybe you're thinking too far ahead. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Updating from Revolution 4.0 to LiveCode 4.5
On 9/22/10 7:52 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I had a few months spare in my Run-Rev 4 licence, so I downloaded LiveCode 4.5.0 (Happy Bunny !). In order to ensure that LiveCode is called when I double-click on a Revolution stack, I now have to delete my folder Revolution Studio (or something of that ilk). But the folder contains a multitude of files, and the LiveCode application is but one file. Before doing something stupid, how do I proceed ? Do I simply delete the Revolution.app in the Revolution Studio 4.0 folder, and replace it by the new LiveCode 4.5.app ? . Or is it just a tad more complicated ? You don't need to move anything. The files that used to be in the Rev folder are now inside the LiveCode application bundle. You can delete or zip the old Rev folder, those files aren't needed for LiveCode. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [revMobile] Horizontal Orientation
On 9/22/10 9:23 AM, Randy Hengst wrote: However, I've been trying to develop a second app in the horizontal orientation not one that can be rotated, just one to work only in horizontal. For that I tried using info from the alpha handbook ... I placed the command in the preopenstack handler... to no avail. I had the same problem, and there isn't a solution right now. The team knows about it and I read somewhere that they will implement a fix for it so that you can start up the app in horizontal orientation. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Derek Bump
Has anyone heard from Derek Bump since he offered his JPEG product source for sale a few months ago? His Dreamscapesoftware.com site is still up, but his emails (including the support emails on his site) all bounce. I was trying to get a link for his HTMLtoCSS stack, which I think someone was asking about here. I send it directly if someone needs it. sqb -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web, Mobile and Server documentation
On 9/22/10 10:11 AM, Mark Stuart wrote: Since I have this license, I was wondering where's the documentation on how to use and build the Web, the Mobile and Server features? I've looked thru the User Guide and haven't found any reference to these features. Each one has its own documentation that ships with the product. Once you install each of them, the docs will be in the main installation folder. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open printing to PDF bug?
On 9/22/10 11:44 AM, William de Smet wrote: Hi there, It seems I have the same problem! I use almost the same code as Joseph (asked earlier today) to print on A4 paper. When I want a PDF preview on OSX everything is/looks fine. When using the code below and adding 'open printing to PDF' about 1/4 of the printed text is cut off. Is this a bug or are we doing something wrong? --- open printing to pdf test.pdf set the printRotated to true set the printMargins to 72,36,72,36 set the printScale to 1.1 print this card from 193,90 to 833,570 close printing --- One thing I just found out is that PDF printing will cut off text and ruin the layout if you have formatForPrinting set to true on Windows. It is the one time you do not want to use that property for printing text. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: general name for...
LiveCode does not fit OOP paradigm, it is almost procedural and imperative but it is not due to the message path. I think we should call our subroutines: definitions, it is a generic enough term and it has good semantics, it means something we applied a name for. So a handler, a function and a commmand are just that definitions. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Malte Pfaff-Brill revolut...@derbrill.dewrote: Hi David, AFAIK in procedural languages this would be a subroutine, in OOP languages a method Now, in which category does liveCode fit? g http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_%28computer_science%29 Cheers, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open printing to PDF bug?
Hi Jacqueline, Thanks for your reaction. I just tested with an image and the same thing happens. I never set formatForPrinting. Anyone else? groeten, William 2010/9/22 J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com: On 9/22/10 11:44 AM, William de Smet wrote: Hi there, It seems I have the same problem! I use almost the same code as Joseph (asked earlier today) to print on A4 paper. When I want a PDF preview on OSX everything is/looks fine. When using the code below and adding 'open printing to PDF' about 1/4 of the printed text is cut off. Is this a bug or are we doing something wrong? --- open printing to pdf test.pdf set the printRotated to true set the printMargins to 72,36,72,36 set the printScale to 1.1 print this card from 193,90 to 833,570 close printing --- One thing I just found out is that PDF printing will cut off text and ruin the layout if you have formatForPrinting set to true on Windows. It is the one time you do not want to use that property for printing text. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode?
Jan, Thank you for the explanation. I have implemented as you have suggested and it finally works. I think there were several conflicting directives colliding with one another. Now I am just declaring the location in the stackFiles and I had to adjust the start using command to not include the .rev. -- Alex Adams hawkVision yourVision of all the info in yourWorld A2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-724-1397 a...@a2technology.com www.a2technology.com From: Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:33:43 -0700 (PDT) To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Still: Where do I put libUUID.rev and qrtReportsLIb.rev in LiveCode? Hi ALex, You really shouldn't make the libraries substacks of your own stack, merely add a reference to them in the stackfiles, as I explained. Once you've done that, the standalone builder will automatically copy it to the standalone folder at build time. qrtReportsLib.rev includes substacks of its own, and therefore cannot become a substack of your mainstack. Jan Schenkel. = Quartam Reports PDF Library for LiveCode www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) --- On Tue, 9/21/10, Alex Adams a...@a2technology.com wrote: Jan, I tried what you suggested, but it still didn't work. I tried reassigning the mainstack of qtrReportLib to my main stack like Jacqueline recommended. That worked great with libUUID, but not with yours. Is it protected against such a thing? The only thing that has worked with qtrReportLib is to put a full path name into the start using stack statement. start using stack /LiveCodeUserExtensions/qtrReportsLib.rev Nothing short of this has worked. I'm concerned about what will happen when the standalones are built. Will I still need this stack installed on the user's computer in the expected directory? -- Alex Adams ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open printing to PDF bug?
Hi folks, My tests... put 595,842 into thePaperSize put 20 into theMargin -- get the page area: set the printMargins to theMargin,theMargin,theMargin,theMargin put theMargin,theMargin, item 1 of thePaperSize - theMargin, item 2 of thePaperSize - theMargin into destinationRect -- print into that rectangle: open printing to pdf /Users/joss/Desktop/card_test.pdf print this card into destinationRect close printing With 20 into the margin is the best aproximation, some graphics inside are a little small, so I print for a card game, and I need that the card have the exact size. If I down the margin I get the real size but the bottom is cutted. Any idea? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Open-printing-to-PDF-bug-tp2550663p2550844.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Updating from Revolution 4.0 to LiveCode 4.5
Francis, on MacOSX you could probably open the info of one .rev file with command I in the finder and choose the program you want to open this file type, probably livecode.app and choose to open all files of this type of file with livecode.app. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Updating-from-Revolution-4-0-to-LiveCode-4-5-tp2550222p2550908.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to recover text from a web page
Thanks for the lead on screen scrapes, but the problem is there is nothing to scrape. The put URL(...) and revBrowserGet(tBrowserId,htmltext) return the html, but not all of the text that is displayed on the page. In fact, if I use Word's merge documents tool to compare the html from pages 2, 9, and 256 of the petition, there is NO DIFFERENCE in the files. The petition signatures and comments are embedded in a petition widget, I think, which I suppose is some javascript applet. Whatever it is, the html definitely does not contain the petition text that I want to evaluate. Nevertheless it is trivial to manually select and copy all of the text on the page. Once it is copied it is easy to automatically paste it, scrape it (that code works fine), and store data using LiveCode, but I do not see a way to select and copy text from this widget using LiveCode. On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:23:17, stephen barncard wrote: Why bother with revBrowser at all? Just do this in the message box: put URL(http://website.com/page.html) and this will put the website html into the message box output. Obviously you could do this with fields. Check out Jerry's videos on Screen Scraping: http://revmentor.com/business-logic-screen-scraping-1 http://revmentor.com/business-logic-screen-scraping-0 On 21 September 2010 22:16, Sumner, Walt WSUMNER at dom.wustl.edu wrote: I am trying to recover text from this web page and all of its siblings: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/keep-life-saving-electronic-cigarettes-avail able/#sigs/691732733/user/1 The interesting part of the page is the comments, which do not appear in the HTML, but which can be copied manually. I can open this page in a browser in LiveCode. With manual mouse motions, I can double click a block of text, choose Select All from the Edit menu, choose Copy from the Edit menu, and then paste into a field where the comments all appear and are easy to disassemble. Unfortunately, the revbrowser set command and get function do not do anything comparable AFAICT. The Select All choice is not implemented in the DoMenu command. I think that printing a pdf is also out. So, any thoughts on how to automate this part of a petition review? For instance, maybe there is a simple way to save the text to a file with the revBrowserExecuteScript function (using JavaScript for Safari)? BTW, the browser is fully capable of crashing LiveCode on at least some OSX machines. Please don't lose any work for me. Thanks, Walt___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution at lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Walton Sumner ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to recover text from a web page
perhaps there's an iFrame or include in the html that references another page -- On 22 September 2010 12:14, Sumner, Walt wsum...@dom.wustl.edu wrote: Thanks for the lead on screen scrapes, but the problem is there is nothing to scrape. The put URL(...) and revBrowserGet(tBrowserId,htmltext) return the html, but not all of the text that is displayed on the page. Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open printing to PDF bug?
Now I see that in relation to the width and height of the stack the PDF change the width and the height... :( -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Open-printing-to-PDF-bug-tp2550663p2550927.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I feel betrayed
Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/21/2010 10:47 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: Have all your copies of revMedia stopped working? Is it not still possible to let kids use it for free? There may be some future need that requires having an updated version, but for now revMedia is as good as it was two days ago. This is an extremely valid point. BUT; where do we point those kids to when they want to have a copy of RevMedia on their PC at home? Not to mention putting in effort to create curriculum centered around a free platform that won't be free any more. I know that Rev has said that it will give LiveCode to schools that request it, but that's still a barrier to use. I was very excited when revMedia came out; not because my school can't afford revStudio -- it can -- but because other schools would be able to start using Rev, or at least trying it out. Not so excited any more - marty -- Marty Billingsley Department of Computer Science The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
Thank you all for the tributes. The Scripter's Scrapbook is also available in the new RunRev MarketPlace: http://www.runrev.com/store/product/scripters-scrapbook-1-0-0/ However, their new website has not yet been completed and there are no download links for any products. To get a download (many different options; choose the one/s you want), go to the Flexible Learning website page http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm as Thomas suggested. Options include standalone applications which are not included in the runRev download (when they are re-instated) for those who wish to run ssBk outside the LiveCode environment. The on-line repository supports a range of attribution options and I would encourage you to take 2-for-1 advantage (for every two you grab, put at least one up yourself). You cannot store files but you can include any number of stacks, files, pdf's etc you want by including their url addresses. Ken Ray's work on the cgi to drive this part has been fantasic. We have also included vendor options so you can offer your work for sale if you wish as well. The Scripter's Scrapbook is currently v5.2.19, last updated 24 June 2010 as AndyP says. Updates tend to quite infrequent nowadays as not much has been requested to improve. Hugh Senior FLCo AndyP wrote: On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Scripter's Scrapebook link: http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm Thanks Thomas, Well what can I say. I've just downloaded the trial version and well...job done! The last update to the app was June 24 2010 so far from dead. Very impressive product, made with Rev. We should all be supporting this great product. I will be! Richard Gaskin wrote: Few dev tools have the feature-completeness of Scripter's Scrapbook. Just when you think you've seen everything it offers, you'll stumble across some other affordance he's included and find yourself saying, Wow, he thought of that too! Hugh took the time to draft a brief article about it for LiveCode Journal (formerly RevJournal): http://www.livecodejournal.com/features/scripters-scrapbook.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Web, Mobile and Server documentation
on Wed Sep 22 12:52:01 CDT 2010, J. Landman Gay wrote: Each one has its own documentation that ships with the product. Once you install each of them, the docs will be in the main installation folder. I looked around the RunRev\Documentation folders and the only pdf file I see is the LiveCode Users Guide, no others. So unless I'm misunderstanding what the Store web page is saying about what the Complete license says I'm supposed to have, I'm missing documentation. Oh, and if I'm to login to RunRev and download more modules, then how is that done? Didn't see it. Just trying to make sense of all this. Regards, Mark Stuart ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I feel betrayed
On 09/22/2010 11:01 PM, Marty Billingsley wrote: Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/21/2010 10:47 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: Have all your copies of revMedia stopped working? Is it not still possible to let kids use it for free? There may be some future need that requires having an updated version, but for now revMedia is as good as it was two days ago. This is an extremely valid point. BUT; where do we point those kids to when they want to have a copy of RevMedia on their PC at home? Not to mention putting in effort to create curriculum centered around a free platform that won't be free any more. I have taught a Summer course in my language school (18 kids) every year for the last 5 years using RunRev on Linux. With the advent of RevMedia free it was suddenly something so much bigger than kids trying to get to grips with programming for 90 minutes twice a week as they were able to run home with their projects on flash drives; download RevMedia (usually for Windows) and carry on working; come back to school; show me with great pride that they had spent the time they usually wasted on watching cartoons on something of lasting value, and so on. But, hey, we have all heard RunRev's protestations about their interest in investing in Education over the years, and it has been 'patchy'. The 10-line restricted code model went by the wayside, then last year we all got excited about RevMedia, and here we are again. But if one thinks of the following 'mantra' ALL will be revealed: Runtime Revolution, Dreamcard, Enterprise, RevMedia, Studio, LiveCard . . . it helps if one visualises a sinusoidal curve at the same time . . . :) Sorry, no seasickness pills allowed. I know that Rev has said that it will give LiveCode to schools that request it, but that's still a barrier to use. I was very excited when revMedia came out; not because my school can't afford revStudio -- it can -- but because other schools would be able to start using Rev, or at least trying it out. Not so excited any more - marty -- Marty Billingsley Department of Computer Science The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
Hugh, as you know I've been needing a solution to make the same Scrapbook data available on all my machines and I thought I had found it with Dropbox (thanks Andre). But I'm having a hard time trying to find out where the data is stored, so I can share that file using Dropbox. I am using the standalone option as the in-IDE plugin just shows too many stacks in the browsers, and I use it for other kinds of code snippets. Should I just put the app itself in the dropbox? On 22 September 2010 13:06, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: Thank you all for the tributes. The Scripter's Scrapbook is also available in the new RunRev MarketPlace: http://www.runrev.com/store/product/scripters-scrapbook-1-0-0/ However, their new website has not yet been completed and there are no download links for any products. To get a download (many different options; choose the one/s you want), go to the Flexible Learning website page http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm as Thomas suggested. Options include standalone applications which are not included in the runRev download (when they are re-instated) for those who wish to run ssBk outside the LiveCode environment. The on-line repository supports a range of attribution options and I would encourage you to take 2-for-1 advantage (for every two you grab, put at least one up yourself). You cannot store files but you can include any number of stacks, files, pdf's etc you want by including their url addresses. Ken Ray's work on the cgi to drive this part has been fantasic. We have also included vendor options so you can offer your work for sale if you wish as well. The Scripter's Scrapbook is currently v5.2.19, last updated 24 June 2010 as AndyP says. Updates tend to quite infrequent nowadays as not much has been requested to improve. Hugh Senior FLCo Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
I've been running into a similar problem with dropbox. I'd like to have my Valentina databases there and I can't figure out a way to configure the vServer to allow that. Drop box sure is an excellent solution for back-ups and use with more than one machine. I only worry about the company disappearing or starting to charge for small uses or something. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Hugh, as you know I've been needing a solution to make the same Scrapbook data available on all my machines and I thought I had found it with Dropbox (thanks Andre). But I'm having a hard time trying to find out where the data is stored, so I can share that file using Dropbox. I am using the standalone option as the in-IDE plugin just shows too many stacks in the browsers, and I use it for other kinds of code snippets. Should I just put the app itself in the dropbox? On 22 September 2010 13:06, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: Thank you all for the tributes. The Scripter's Scrapbook is also available in the new RunRev MarketPlace: http://www.runrev.com/store/product/scripters-scrapbook-1-0-0/ However, their new website has not yet been completed and there are no download links for any products. To get a download (many different options; choose the one/s you want), go to the Flexible Learning website page http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm as Thomas suggested. Options include standalone applications which are not included in the runRev download (when they are re-instated) for those who wish to run ssBk outside the LiveCode environment. The on-line repository supports a range of attribution options and I would encourage you to take 2-for-1 advantage (for every two you grab, put at least one up yourself). You cannot store files but you can include any number of stacks, files, pdf's etc you want by including their url addresses. Ken Ray's work on the cgi to drive this part has been fantasic. We have also included vendor options so you can offer your work for sale if you wish as well. The Scripter's Scrapbook is currently v5.2.19, last updated 24 June 2010 as AndyP says. Updates tend to quite infrequent nowadays as not much has been requested to improve. Hugh Senior FLCo Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
I'm not sure the web server component is needed most of the time if all of one's machines are on the same LAN. The local files on local machines seem to get reconciled way before the web version. very fast. On 22 September 2010 13:35, william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.comwrote: I've been running into a similar problem with dropbox. I'd like to have my Valentina databases there and I can't figure out a way to configure the vServer to allow that. Drop box sure is an excellent solution for back-ups and use with more than one machine. I only worry about the company disappearing or starting to charge for small uses or something. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:20 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Hugh, as you know I've been needing a solution to make the same Scrapbook data available on all my machines and I thought I had found it with Dropbox (thanks Andre). But I'm having a hard time trying to find out where the data is stored, so I can share that file using Dropbox. I am using the standalone option as the in-IDE plugin just shows too many stacks in the browsers, and I use it for other kinds of code snippets. Should I just put the app itself in the dropbox? On 22 September 2010 13:06, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote: Thank you all for the tributes. The Scripter's Scrapbook is also available in the new RunRev MarketPlace: http://www.runrev.com/store/product/scripters-scrapbook-1-0-0/ However, their new website has not yet been completed and there are no download links for any products. To get a download (many different options; choose the one/s you want), go to the Flexible Learning website page http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm as Thomas suggested. Options include standalone applications which are not included in the runRev download (when they are re-instated) for those who wish to run ssBk outside the LiveCode environment. The on-line repository supports a range of attribution options and I would encourage you to take 2-for-1 advantage (for every two you grab, put at least one up yourself). You cannot store files but you can include any number of stacks, files, pdf's etc you want by including their url addresses. Ken Ray's work on the cgi to drive this part has been fantasic. We have also included vendor options so you can offer your work for sale if you wish as well. The Scripter's Scrapbook is currently v5.2.19, last updated 24 June 2010 as AndyP says. Updates tend to quite infrequent nowadays as not much has been requested to improve. Hugh Senior FLCo Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I feel betrayed
Well In America schools have a ton of money. I know cause it used to be my money! Seriously, at least in California, more money is spent per student than almost anywhere else in the world! I say LET THEM EAT CAKE! errr LET THEM BUY LiveCode! Bob On Sep 22, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Marty Billingsley wrote: Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/21/2010 10:47 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: Have all your copies of revMedia stopped working? Is it not still possible to let kids use it for free? There may be some future need that requires having an updated version, but for now revMedia is as good as it was two days ago. This is an extremely valid point. BUT; where do we point those kids to when they want to have a copy of RevMedia on their PC at home? Not to mention putting in effort to create curriculum centered around a free platform that won't be free any more. I know that Rev has said that it will give LiveCode to schools that request it, but that's still a barrier to use. I was very excited when revMedia came out; not because my school can't afford revStudio -- it can -- but because other schools would be able to start using Rev, or at least trying it out. Not so excited any more - marty -- Marty Billingsley Department of Computer Science The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Web, Mobile and Server documentation
On 9/22/10 3:06 PM, Mark Stuart wrote: I looked around the RunRev\Documentation folders and the only pdf file I see is the LiveCode Users Guide, no others. So unless I'm misunderstanding what the Store web page is saying about what the Complete license says I'm supposed to have, I'm missing documentation. Oh, and if I'm to login to RunRev and download more modules, then how is that done? Didn't see it. You may need to write to support and ask Heather since I'm not sure yet how it works. But the site says you should log into your account and there will be download links there for the products you have purchased. Go to the web site, click the Store link at the top of the page, and log in with the email and password that was sent to you in email in the last couple of days. If you didn't get an email, then click the forgot password link and have it sent to you. Once you are in your store account you should see the products you purchased and be able to download them. But check your hard drive first to see if you have more than just the desktop apps. Each product may be in its own folder, or have its own installer. I'm not sure how it works right now, I got my files before the new store activated. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open printing to PDF bug?
Any help? :) -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Open-printing-to-PDF-bug-tp2550663p2551168.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I feel betrayed
Hi I guess though the issue raised was more regardingf KIDs that were able to download revMedia and keep going at home than schools buying stuff for the classroom.. Ayways, I guess there are other options for kids like Scratch and Squeak that may be more suited, because what I guess is the main advantage of liveCode is the ability to code for several platforms (with reserves, beacause it does not always go so smoothly as just pressing the button..) and this is of no interest for kids but it is for developpers. And Scratch and Squeak is very stable since quite a while... -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/I-feel-betrayed-tp2549275p2551267.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
LiveCode in K-6 school environment
Hi I'm about to start doing a day a week at my kids school to help them with their ICT program and I'm interested to hear the experiences of anyone using LiveCode in that environment. I'm thinking in terms of: - providing tools for teachers. - eLearning for young kids. - Starting programming for older kids (9 or 10 year olds). - providing tools for parents or school/parent communication Cheers -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open printing to PDF bug?
I set parameters for the entire print batch before open printing to pdf. Am I doing that wrong? Try setting up for A4: set the printPaperSize to 595,842 Try printPaperOrientation instead of printRotated. If those don't work, try putting margins and printscale before the batch. I'm guessing. Mine works but I'm not using landscape. And I use full-page printing. Dar Scott On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:44 AM, William de Smet wrote: Hi there, It seems I have the same problem! I use almost the same code as Joseph (asked earlier today) to print on A4 paper. When I want a PDF preview on OSX everything is/looks fine. When using the code below and adding 'open printing to PDF' about 1/4 of the printed text is cut off. Is this a bug or are we doing something wrong? --- open printing to pdf test.pdf set the printRotated to true set the printMargins to 72,36,72,36 set the printScale to 1.1 print this card from 193,90 to 833,570 close printing --- greetings, William ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to recover text from a web page
perhaps there's an iFrame or include in the html that references another page -- There is definitely an iFrame involved and they have it pointing to some sort of PHP servlet hosted from an entirely different domain. Doesn't look to be much you can do with that combination. Best regards, David C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [revMobile] Horizontal Orientation
Hi Jacque, Thanks for that information. I'll look forward to the addition. take care, randy - On Sep 22, 2010, at 12:46 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 9/22/10 9:23 AM, Randy Hengst wrote: However, I've been trying to develop a second app in the horizontal orientation not one that can be rotated, just one to work only in horizontal. For that I tried using info from the alpha handbook ... I placed the command in the preopenstack handler... to no avail. I had the same problem, and there isn't a solution right now. The team knows about it and I read somewhere that they will implement a fix for it so that you can start up the app in horizontal orientation. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to recover text from a web page
Try using the url of the iframe. This will get that HTML only, but that could be all you need. Most sites will work easily, but some have a security variable that is sent along to the iframe url that signals 'intended use'. The include should simply add the text of another file to the current file, effectively inserting that text at the location of the include. The result should be that you will get the HTML without any other steps. On Sep 22, 2010, at 6:45 PM, David C. wrote: perhaps there's an iFrame or include in the html that references another page -- There is definitely an iFrame involved and they have it pointing to some sort of PHP servlet hosted from an entirely different domain. Doesn't look to be much you can do with that combination. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open printing to PDF bug?
William, I tried this: on mouseUp reset printing set the printPaperSize to 595,842 set the printPaperOrientation to landscape set the printmargins to 72,36,0,0 set the printscale to 1.1 open printing to pdf test.pdf -- add error check here print this card from 193,90 to 833,570 -- add error check here close printing end mouseUp And I get the right part of my images, rectangles and fields cut off. It cuts off at the unrotated paper width. It looks like it scaled right, but it has the cutoff. I tried setting the rotated paper size after setting orientation, but it is the same. I think with some other fiddling, parts showed up but not all. I'm not an expert at all the printing parameters, but it seems to me you are right. It seems there is a bug. Maybe somebody with more printing experience can say. Dar Scott On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:44 AM, William de Smet wrote: Hi there, It seems I have the same problem! I use almost the same code as Joseph (asked earlier today) to print on A4 paper. When I want a PDF preview on OSX everything is/looks fine. When using the code below and adding 'open printing to PDF' about 1/4 of the printed text is cut off. Is this a bug or are we doing something wrong? --- open printing to pdf test.pdf set the printRotated to true set the printMargins to 72,36,72,36 set the printScale to 1.1 print this card from 193,90 to 833,570 close printing --- greetings, William ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Print Dialog Only Opens Once?
Back with more print questions... After scripting answer printer on WindowsXP, I get the appropriate system print dialog, which I've followed with answer the result and then I exit to top, as I'm only checking results. Once this routine has run, I can't open the printer dialog anymore with restarting (Rev 4). When answer printer is called, the result is unable to open dialog. I've tried setting the printerSettings to empty before calling answer printer, but no change. Anything else I can do here? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
