Re: LiveCode in K-6 school environment
Hello Monte, snip - Starting programming for older kids (9 or 10 year olds). It sounds like the age of children you are looking at may be a challenging group if writing code is the goal. I teach 8 and 9 year olds and my experience teaching them HyperCard (and last year, revMedia) is that (no matter how hard I wish it to be different) very few are developmentally ready to program. A simple PowerPoint type interface and/or templates that they can customize is more appropriate with the kiddos I work with. A few of the more gifted 9 year olds can get their head around variables and if-then branching but my experience (and the general consensus of folks I spoke to at a few RevCons) was that 10 or 11 year olds were usually better able to think at that level of abstraction... On the other hand, it hasn't stopped me from exposing kids to scripting in order to see who gets a light in their eyes! Let us know what you end up doing. I'm certain I'm not alone in wanting to know what someone of your skill will end up contributing inside a school setting. Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com -- On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi I'm about to start doing a day a week at my kids school to help them with their ICT program and I'm interested to hear the experiences of anyone using LiveCode in that environment. I'm thinking in terms of: - providing tools for teachers. - eLearning for young kids. - Starting programming for older kids (9 or 10 year olds). - providing tools for parents or school/parent communication Cheers -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode in K-6 school environment
Hi Scott It sounds like the age of children you are looking at may be a challenging group if writing code is the goal. I teach 8 and 9 year olds and my experience teaching them HyperCard (and last year, revMedia) is that (no matter how hard I wish it to be different) very few are developmentally ready to program. Yeah, that's what I was thinking but I didn't want to assume anything given my 4 year old is a wiz on the iPad ;-). The oldest kids will be about 12 I think. A simple PowerPoint type interface and/or templates that they can customize is more appropriate with the kiddos I work with. A few of the more gifted 9 year olds can get their head around variables and if-then branching but my experience (and the general consensus of folks I spoke to at a few RevCons) was that 10 or 11 year olds were usually better able to think at that level of abstraction... OK, I might tell them it's best if it's only year 6 and small groups of keen kids. On the other hand, it hasn't stopped me from exposing kids to scripting in order to see who gets a light in their eyes! Let us know what you end up doing. I'm certain I'm not alone in wanting to know what someone of your skill will end up contributing inside a school setting. Ah, now you've got me blushing ;-) Cheers -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[revMobile] black screen [was [revMobile] Horizontal Orientation]
... and except for an occasional screen going black issue I wrote about this RevMobile problem on the ImproveRevolution list but got not response, but am kind of relieved to hear from Randy Hengst that it's not just my setup that's experiencing this. Anyonelse getting a black screen with RevMobile apps? And, is it safe to just relax about this for now, knowing that LiveCode will get to this soon? Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Colors in LiveCode
Hello (again) ! Mac OS X 10.6.4 I have a stack background color (RVB = 198,198,198) I control it with colorimètre numérique Apple version 3.7.2 = 198,198,198 I snapshot it : cmd+shift+4 I control the result on finder with colorimètre numérique = 198,198,198 I import it with menu File/Import as control/Image file... the image appears over the background : it is darker After control with colorimètre numérique = 186,186,186 Why ? René Le 21 sept. 2010 à 12:35, Ben Rubinstein a écrit : On 21/09/2010 10:33, René Micout wrote: All this is still annoying, almost every new version of Revolution (Pardon LiveCode) is the same thing ... This is the problem when fixing a bug... sometimes that means breaking stacks that were adapted to work with the previous behaviour. But for me this is a massive upgrade because now Rev/LiveCode can read CYMK images. So while I accept some eggs have been broken, I'm enjoying the delicious omelette! Ben (who's not sure whether that the egg/omelette phrase is only in English...) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
Your Entries are stored in the stack data file (initially called ssBk.rev in the download). If you have more than one Scrapbook, it will also be a stack data file. I have not used Dropbox so it would be good to know that a 'roaming' solution for ssBk is easily available. Hugh Senior FLCo stephen barncard asked... Hugh, as you know I've been needing a solution to make the same Scrapbook data available on all my machines and I thought I had found it with Dropbox (thanks Andre). But I'm having a hard time trying to find out where the data is stored, so I can share that file using Dropbox. I am using the standalone option as the in-IDE plugin just shows too many stacks in the browsers, and I use it for other kinds of code snippets. Should I just put the app itself in the dropbox? On 22 September 2010 13:06, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: Thank you all for the tributes. The Scripter's Scrapbook is also available in the new RunRev MarketPlace: http://www.runrev.com/store/product/scripters-scrapbook-1-0-0/ However, their new website has not yet been completed and there are no download links for any products. To get a download (many different options; choose the one/s you want), go to the Flexible Learning website page http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm as Thomas suggested. Options include standalone applications which are not included in the runRev download (when they are re-instated) for those who wish to run ssBk outside the LiveCode environment. The on-line repository supports a range of attribution options and I would encourage you to take 2-for-1 advantage (for every two you grab, put at least one up yourself). You cannot store files but you can include any number of stacks, files, pdf's etc you want by including their url addresses. Ken Ray's work on the cgi to drive this part has been fantasic. We have also included vendor options so you can offer your work for sale if you wish as well. The Scripter's Scrapbook is currently v5.2.19, last updated 24 June 2010 as AndyP says. Updates tend to quite infrequent nowadays as not much has been requested to improve. Hugh Senior FLCo Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RunRev Store Account
Hi, After several days, I still had not received my RunRev Store password. Instead of writing to support, I decided to reset my password. I went to http://runrev.com/store/ and clicked on reset password', entered my e-mail address and received an e-mail with my password immediately. This seems worth a try for eveyone who hasn't received a password yet. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at http://qurl.tk/ce Create installers for Mac and Windows on *every* Rev-compatible platform. No additional software needed. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
LiveCode 4.5 personal licences
Referring to the last version of the LIveCode store ( http://www.runrev.com/store/ ) , I do not understand the difference between the LiveCode 4.5 Desktop Mac/Win (99 $ ) licence and LiveCode 4.5 Desktop Personal (275 $ ) licence . * The difference between the 2 personal licences is that the second licence allows you to deploy also to the Linux platform? * Referring to the first they say: * * * LiveCode 4.5 Desktop Mac/Win Windows and Mac desktop development unlocked This package includes LiveCode development tools and the Windows and Mac desktop deployment addon. while, referring to the second licence they say: LiveCode 4.5 Desktop Personal Complete desktop development for the personal user This bundle gives you LiveCode Development Tools plus personal deployment to all desktop platforms saving you $49. Develop applications using a fast and easy compile-free workflow. Achieve project goals in a fraction of the time with the ability to change the interface or code while the application is running. So quick to learn even non-programmers can use it. Write code that makes sense using expressive, memorable syntax and reuse the same code across multiple devices. Customize your Personal license with more deployment options, pick from Mobile, Web and Server. This license is for educational and non-commercial use, all standalone executable applications will display a splash screen on launch stating non-commercial use only. All the best Paolo Mazza * ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode in K-6 school environment
On 09/23/2010 09:58 AM, Scott Morrow wrote: Hello Monte, snip - Starting programming for older kids (9 or 10 year olds). It sounds like the age of children you are looking at may be a challenging group if writing code is the goal. I teach 8 and 9 year olds and my experience teaching them HyperCard (and last year, revMedia) is that (no matter how hard I wish it to be different) very few are developmentally ready to program. A simple PowerPoint type interface and/or templates that they can customize is more appropriate with the kiddos I work with. A few of the more gifted 9 year olds can get their head around variables and if-then branching but my experience (and the general consensus of folks I spoke to at a few RevCons) was that 10 or 11 year olds were usually better able to think at that level of abstraction... On the other hand, it hasn't stopped me from exposing kids to scripting in order to see who gets a light in their eyes! Let us know what you end up doing. I'm certain I'm not alone in wanting to know what someone of your skill will end up contributing inside a school setting. Now this is really very interesting. I put some plastic cups on the table and move beans around them and call it a calculator. The I set up an interface with buttons as per a standard Electronic calculator; and a few fields called cup1, cup2, cup3, and so on on RevMedia. Then get one kid to move beans around the cups and tell the kid at the computer things like: put the beans from cup1 and the beans from cup2 into cup3 and take the same number of beans as are in cup1 out of cup2 and put them in cup3 then the kids start writing code under the '+','-','/' and '*' buttons . . . most of these kids are in the 7 - 10 range. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode in K-6 school environment
Now this is really very interesting. I put some plastic cups on the table and move beans around them and call it a calculator. The I set up an interface with buttons as per a standard Electronic calculator; and a few fields called cup1, cup2, cup3, and so on on RevMedia. Then get one kid to move beans around the cups and tell the kid at the computer things like: put the beans from cup1 and the beans from cup2 into cup3 and take the same number of beans as are in cup1 out of cup2 and put them in cup3 then the kids start writing code under the '+','-','/' and '*' buttons . . . most of these kids are in the 7 - 10 range. That's gold Richmond. I'm going to try it with my 7 year old. Cheers -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I feel betrayed
On 23/09/2010 01:43, Robert Mann r...@free.fr wrote: Hi I guess though the issue raised was more regardingf KIDs that were able to download revMedia and keep going at home than schools buying stuff for the classroom.. Just to be clear here - we do have a scolarship program for K-12 and aren't going to be turning away anyone in that group who doesn't have a budget for a license. We'll be putting some more extensive pages up about that in the coming days but it is already up there. You do have to ask but we'll streamline the process to be simple. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Realize fast, compile-free coding ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Updating from Revolution 4.0 to LiveCode 4.5
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, When I combine both answers : Jacque wrote : You can delete or zip the old Rev folder, those files aren't needed for LiveCode. Bernd wrote : you could probably open the info of one .rev file and choose the program you want to open this file type . I solved the problem. Thanks to you both ! -Francis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cloning a folder?
It seems that revCopyFolder does not return a value for the new folder it creates - this is important when the destination folder already exists - because it still creates a folder but with a new folder name that at least on the Mac adds an integer value to the end of the name ie ./folder 2 Is there an easy way to script cloning a folder within the same enclosing folder but giving it a new name? I want this to work cross platform. Any help with the following general purpose handler? command rev_CopyAndRename originalFolder, newFolder -- work in progress set the itemdelimiter to / put newFolder into enclosingFolder delete item -1 of enclosingFolder revCopyFolder originalFolder, enclosingFolder -- put it / the result into copiedFolder rename folder copiedFolder to newFolder end rev_CopyAndRename ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 personal licences
Hmm, looks to me like they need to adjust the desctription and that maybe it includes livecode for web? The price comes out the same if you build that selection using the customize tool. (275, 99 for the first, 99 for linux and 77 for livecode web with the bundle discount. That bundle listing surely needs to be fixed and clarified. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:12 AM, paolo mazza mazzapaoloit...@gmail.comwrote: Referring to the last version of the LIveCode store ( http://www.runrev.com/store/ ) , I do not understand the difference between the LiveCode 4.5 Desktop Mac/Win (99 $ ) licence and LiveCode 4.5 Desktop Personal (275 $ ) licence . * The difference between the 2 personal licences is that the second licence allows you to deploy also to the Linux platform? * Referring to the first they say: * * * LiveCode 4.5 Desktop Mac/Win Windows and Mac desktop development unlocked This package includes LiveCode development tools and the Windows and Mac desktop deployment addon. while, referring to the second licence they say: LiveCode 4.5 Desktop Personal Complete desktop development for the personal user This bundle gives you LiveCode Development Tools plus personal deployment to all desktop platforms saving you $49. Develop applications using a fast and easy compile-free workflow. Achieve project goals in a fraction of the time with the ability to change the interface or code while the application is running. So quick to learn even non-programmers can use it. Write code that makes sense using expressive, memorable syntax and reuse the same code across multiple devices. Customize your Personal license with more deployment options, pick from Mobile, Web and Server. This license is for educational and non-commercial use, all standalone executable applications will display a splash screen on launch stating non-commercial use only. All the best Paolo Mazza * ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I feel betrayed
Kevin Miller wrote: On 23/09/2010 01:43, Robert Mann rman at free.fr wrote: Hi I guess though the issue raised was more regardingf KIDs that were able to download revMedia and keep going at home than schools buying stuff for the classroom.. Just to be clear here - we do have a scolarship program for K-12 and aren't going to be turning away anyone in that group who doesn't have a budget for a license. We'll be putting some more extensive pages up about that in the coming days but it is already up there. You do have to ask but we'll streamline the process to be simple. That's very good news. A similar sentiment was posted in the forums recently, so it would be useful to have the URL to whatever info you have on the scholarship program. Thanks - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
uuencode/uudecode
Hi, how can i uuencode data with LiveCode? Do i need 3rd party tools for that? i cannot find anything about it, when searching the dictionary for uuencode. Regards, Matthias___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] test
Sorry for the seeming waste of bandwidth, but I need to verify something about the format of these list archives so please ignore this email. From here to there From here to there From here to there and From here to there Back to your regularly-scheduled LiveCode discussion -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev Store Account
Mark- Thursday, September 23, 2010, 2:58:19 AM, you wrote: After several days, I still had not received my RunRev Store password. Instead of writing to support, I decided to reset my password. I went to http://runrev.com/store/ and clicked on reset password', entered my e-mail address and received an e-mail with my password immediately. This seems worth a try for eveyone who hasn't received a password yet. I ended up doing that as well, and it does work. Be aware, though, that when you finally do receive your password email from RunRev it will override your old password setting at the website, and you should relicense the app as well. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
Right, but ssbk.rev also seems to be the core app loaded by the standalone. So the DATA and BUSINESS LOGIC are both in ssbk.rev ? On 23 September 2010 02:34, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: Your Entries are stored in the stack data file (initially called ssBk.rev in the download). If you have more than one Scrapbook, it will also be a stack data file. I have not used Dropbox so it would be good to know that a 'roaming' solution for ssBk is easily available. Hugh Senior FLCo stephen barncard asked... Hugh, as you know I've been needing a solution to make the same Scrapbook data available on all my machines and I thought I had found it with Dropbox (thanks Andre). But I'm having a hard time trying to find out where the data is stored, so I can share that file using Dropbox. I am using the standalone option as the in-IDE plugin just shows too many stacks in the browsers, and I use it for other kinds of code snippets. Should I just put the app itself in the dropbox? On 22 September 2010 13:06, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: Thank you all for the tributes. The Scripter's Scrapbook is also available in the new RunRev MarketPlace: http://www.runrev.com/store/product/scripters-scrapbook-1-0-0/ However, their new website has not yet been completed and there are no download links for any products. To get a download (many different options; choose the one/s you want), go to the Flexible Learning website page http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk.htm as Thomas suggested. Options include standalone applications which are not included in the runRev download (when they are re-instated) for those who wish to run ssBk outside the LiveCode environment. The on-line repository supports a range of attribution options and I would encourage you to take 2-for-1 advantage (for every two you grab, put at least one up yourself). You cannot store files but you can include any number of stacks, files, pdf's etc you want by including their url addresses. Ken Ray's work on the cgi to drive this part has been fantasic. We have also included vendor options so you can offer your work for sale if you wish as well. The Scripter's Scrapbook is currently v5.2.19, last updated 24 June 2010 as AndyP says. Updates tend to quite infrequent nowadays as not much has been requested to improve. Hugh Senior FLCo Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
Hi Hugh, I tryed to update to the last version, but the app is hang up, and still Startup... Exactly what I must do after update and see the NEW Scripter's Scrapbook? I have version 5.2.16, inside the 5.2.17 and now inside of this the 5.2.19... :( Only I can use the 5.2.16... Salut, Josep M -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/The-Scripter-s-Scrapbook-was-Online-Snippets-library-tp2551700p2552309.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
Correct. /H stephen barncard wrote: Right, but ssbk.rev also seems to be the core app loaded by the standalone. So the DATA and BUSINESS LOGIC are both in ssbk.rev ? On 23 September 2010 02:34, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: Your Entries are stored in the stack data file (initially called ssBk.rev in the download). If you have more than one Scrapbook, it will also be a stack data file. I have not used Dropbox so it would be good to know that a 'roaming' solution for ssBk is easily available. Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I feel betrayed
Good news indeed! Could you consider extending this scolarship program to pre-service teachers taking courses in which LiveCode would be used ? This would allow then to instal LiveCode at home and practice with it. Kind regards, André Le 10-09-23 à 13:00, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com a écrit : -- Message: 17 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:52:40 +0100 From: Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com Subject: Re: I feel betrayed To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: c8c0fe18.14cca%ke...@runrev.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 23/09/2010 01:43, Robert Mann r...@free.fr wrote: Hi I guess though the issue raised was more regardingf KIDs that were able to download revMedia and keep going at home than schools buying stuff for the classroom.. Just to be clear here - we do have a scolarship program for K-12 and aren't going to be turning away anyone in that group who doesn't have a budget for a license. We'll be putting some more extensive pages up about that in the coming days but it is already up there. You do have to ask but we'll streamline the process to be simple. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Realize fast, compile-free coding ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
A hanging app has been reported when using an old version of the standAlone with ssBk. Go to www.flexibleLearning.com/ssbk, click FREE DOWNLOADS and download a replacement standalone application in the Extras: Application Programs section of the page. After an update, the 'new folder' is always generated in the same folder as the folder you started in. You simply archive your old set-up and move the new files back into the original folder. This is a fail-safe so you can always revert. Hugh Senior FLCo JosepM wrote: Hi Hugh, I tryed to update to the last version, but the app is hang up, and still Startup... Exactly what I must do after update and see the NEW Scripter's Scrapbook? I have version 5.2.16, inside the 5.2.17 and now inside of this the 5.2.19... :( Only I can use the 5.2.16... Salut, Josep M ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Your LiveCode Accounts
Dear List Folks, Just a quick update on your accounts. All the account creation emails have been sent out now, so if you didn't get yours (spam filter, bounce?) you can go to this page: http://www.runrev.com/store/account/login/ In the Existing Customers area, enter the email address you purchased with. Click the forgotten password link and get your password resent. You should be able to log in to your account. If you purchased originally with an email address you don't have anymore, reset your password anyway, then email supp...@runrev.com to tell us what email address you did it for, and we can retrieve that password for you. You will then be able to update the account to an email address you do use. Please be patient, as I'm sure you can imagine we have exceptional levels of support at the moment, but we will get round to everybody just as soon as we can. Another useful thing you might want to know, is that if you log in and find you have multiple licenses all grouped together, with a single price for the update, you can now ungroup the licenses and update each one individually, for a single update price. Thanks for all the great feedback, its very heartening to hear how many of you love the new name/look. Regards, Heather Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode – Realize fast, compile-free coding Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode – Realize fast, compile-free coding ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cloning a folder?
On 9/23/10 8:46 AM, David Bovill wrote: It seems that revCopyFolder does not return a value for the new folder it creates - this is important when the destination folder already exists - because it still creates a folder but with a new folder name that at least on the Mac adds an integer value to the end of the name ie ./folder 2 Is there an easy way to script cloning a folder within the same enclosing folder but giving it a new name? I want this to work cross platform. Any help with the following general purpose handler? command rev_CopyAndRename originalFolder, newFolder -- work in progress set the itemdelimiter to / put newFolder into enclosingFolder delete item -1 of enclosingFolder revCopyFolder originalFolder, enclosingFolder -- put it / the result into copiedFolder rename folder copiedFolder to newFolder end rev_CopyAndRename I think I'd name the new folder something arbitrary, like temp, and after the copy is done, use the rename folder command to set the permanent name of the folder. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
Will all due respect, Hugh, I've always cringed with the upgrade process with SS. It was never clear what to do with the mess in the folder that was left, and what was what. On 23 September 2010 10:19, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: A hanging app has been reported when using an old version of the standAlone with ssBk. Go to www.flexibleLearning.com/ssbk, click FREE DOWNLOADS and download a replacement standalone application in the Extras: Application Programs section of the page. After an update, the 'new folder' is always generated in the same folder as the folder you started in. You simply archive your old set-up and move the new files back into the original folder. This is a fail-safe so you can always revert. Hugh Senior FLCo JosepM wrote: Hi Hugh, I tryed to update to the last version, but the app is hang up, and still Startup... Exactly what I must do after update and see the NEW Scripter's Scrapbook? I have version 5.2.16, inside the 5.2.17 and now inside of this the 5.2.19... :( Only I can use the 5.2.16... Salut, Josep M ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 84, Issue 47
On Sep 23, 2010, Scott Morrow sc...@elementarysoftware.com wrote: Hello Monte, snip - Starting programming for older kids (9 or 10 year olds). It sounds like the age of children you are looking at may be a challenging group if writing code is the goal. I teach 8 and 9 year olds and my experience teaching them HyperCard (and last year, revMedia) is that (no matter how hard I wish it to be different) very few are developmentally ready to program. A simple PowerPoint type interface and/or templates that they can customize is more appropriate with the kiddos I work with. A few of the more gifted 9 year olds can get their head around variables and if-then branching but my experience (and the general consensus of folks I spoke to at a few RevCons) was that 10 or 11 year olds were usually better able to think at that level of abstraction... On the other hand, it hasn't stopped me from exposing kids to scripting in order to see who gets a light in their eyes! Let us know what you end up doing. I'm certain I'm not alone in wanting to know what someone of your skill will end up contributing inside a school setting. Scott Morrow Kids that young will do better with a drag-n-drop programming environment. Typing in scripting commands is just too difficult at that age. Even if they can grasp the abstractions, they can't keep enough information in their heads at one time to program in an open- ended environment. Scratch is a great place for kids to start. Cross- platform, free, and robust. Lots of good curriculum materials out there for Scratch. The middle school kids I teach are 13-14; they do quite well with Rev. - marty -- Marty Billingsley Department of Computer Science The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Print Dialog Only Opens Once?
On 9/23/10 12:14 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: Back with more print questions... After scripting answer printer on WindowsXP, I get the appropriate system print dialog, which I've followed with answer the result and then I exit to top, as I'm only checking results. Once this routine has run, I can't open the printer dialog anymore with restarting (Rev 4). When answer printer is called, the result is unable to open dialog. I've tried setting the printerSettings to empty before calling answer printer, but no change. Anything else I can do here? I just tried it and can't reproduce the problem. This is all I have in my button script: on mouseup answer printer put the result end mouseup I hit Print to close the dialog the first time through by mistake, after that I clicked Cancel each time. Not sure if that mattered. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text File Import
why, do you have something that does more, Stephen? For what we usually do around here, this is pretty bare-bones and straightforward, but rather than spending five hours writing it I thought I'd ask first. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The currently playing track revMobile
I want to write an iOS app that allows me to edit the tags of the tracks on my iPod Touch. Often when I listen to music on my iPod, I want to edit the data of the currently playing track. For example, I want to set the genre, or at least add some comments to it. And when I connect the iPod to my iMac, I want that data to sync back to iTunes automatically. I don't know of any app that has similar functionality, so I doubt whether the SDK allows it. But it sure would be great if it did. As far as I know, the only information that is synced back from my iPod to iTunes is: star ratings and play counts. But I would love to do more. If this is simply impossible, could there be some kind of workaround? For example: the app records the title artist of the currently playing track to a text file on the iPod, along with the data I would like to add/modify. When connected to the Mac, an AppleScript could process that text file to make the changes to the corresponding track(s) in iTunes. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. Terry___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open printing to PDF bug?
On 9/22/10 11:09 PM, Dar Scott wrote: William, I tried this: on mouseUp reset printing set the printPaperSize to 595,842 set the printPaperOrientation to landscape set the printmargins to 72,36,0,0 set the printscale to 1.1 open printing to pdf test.pdf -- add error check here print this card from 193,90 to 833,570 -- add error check here close printing end mouseUp And I get the right part of my images, rectangles and fields cut off. It cuts off at the unrotated paper width. This works for me: set the printpapersize to 595,842 set the printPaperOrientation to landscape set the printmargins to 18,18,18,18 set the printScale to 0.85 open printing to pdf test.pdf print this card from the topleft of fld 1 to the bottomright of fld 1 close printing I got the cutoff until I scaled the printout down to 0.85; this likely needs to be adjusted for each layout. The printmargins will also play a role in how much it needs to be scaled. If the scaling is too large, then it prints right off the edge of the page. If William's original intention is to make the text larger for the printout, then probably I'd increase the textsize of the field before printing, then change it back afterward. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: uuencode/uudecode
Hi Matthias, With LiveCode on Mac OS X you could use a shell() command and let the 'uuencode' line command do the work. Not sure about Windows... there doesn't seem to be a direct way to uuencode a file - no 'uuencode' command, nor any way to do it using PowerShell (AFAIK). Do you feel like writing your own LC uu library? That should be doable. More info about the uuencode spec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuencoding http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/uuencode.html Phil On 9/23/10 7:42 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi, how can i uuencode data with LiveCode? Do i need 3rd party tools for that? i cannot find anything about it, when searching the dictionary for uuencode. Regards, Matthias___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Linux Tao
Has anybody completed a list of the issues that we face with using RR in Linux? I'm in the process of taking a project that I use all the time in Windoze and trying to port it. To this point, things I've found are: 1) odbc a) have to tell RR where the specific odbc driver that i'm using is located b) have to specify the database type as odbc (lowercase) instead of ODBC (uppercase) c) have to insert DSN= on the front of the dsn source or RR won't be able to talk to the driver. 2) Display a) Table Fields are unbelievably slow to respond e.g. clicking on a line takes seconds to hilight b) The display in general seems very slow. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text File Import
Apologies, it was my somewhat snide reply to your question: What you just asked for was a complete APPLICATION ! And the fact you have to deal with the HORRIBLE CSV format. Commas should have NEVER ever been used for delimiters, period. Returns mess up everything. Actually what you asked could be a library or an app. What would you pay for such a thing? Anyway, you'll like the one you make better anyway than some partial demo stack. If you can make this to your stated specs in 5 hours, then you are a much more efficient coder than I am. Even if it's for myself, I like to take time with the gui, the menus, etc. It makes a difference if it's just being used by me rather than by others of course. If somebody else has to use it, then it's a whole new ball game, support, etc. On 23 September 2010 11:21, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: why, do you have something that does more, Stephen? For what we usually do around here, this is pretty bare-bones and straightforward, but rather than spending five hours writing it I thought I'd ask first. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text File Import
I'm surprised that this isn't a stock library item. It's just a typical db import. No worries. Thanks for the replies. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The currently playing track revMobile
Neat idea. After a quick bit of searching, this was added to the SDK with OS3 - so it's possible, but I've no idea if it's possible with Rev. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/741847/iphone-sdk-accessing-current-song-information-through-an-app Ian On 23 Sep 2010, at 19:30, Terry Vogelaar wrote: I want to write an iOS app that allows me to edit the tags of the tracks on my iPod Touch. Often when I listen to music on my iPod, I want to edit the data of the currently playing track. For example, I want to set the genre, or at least add some comments to it. And when I connect the iPod to my iMac, I want that data to sync back to iTunes automatically. I don't know of any app that has similar functionality, so I doubt whether the SDK allows it. But it sure would be great if it did. As far as I know, the only information that is synced back from my iPod to iTunes is: star ratings and play counts. But I would love to do more. If this is simply impossible, could there be some kind of workaround? For example: the app records the title artist of the currently playing track to a text file on the iPod, along with the data I would like to add/modify. When connected to the Mac, an AppleScript could process that text file to make the changes to the corresponding track(s) in iTunes. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. Terry___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: calling com port under win7 with old 261 built app
Mark, I owe you a beer! it was the firewall! running fine now. was frustrating as the new win7 box i just bought just to do a little other win7 testing has no serial port! was going to have to add a card to start trying to test it or worse yet have to do a service call.., but all fixed now! the same old 2.6.1 app is running fine talking to the amx controller fine now and running the interactive auditorium shows at the monterey bay aquarium on the new win7 boxes. thanks for the help! cheers jeff PS the aquarium recently retired an old first gen HD video server there (old suped up pc box with extra dp cards and drive array) that still had running an old meta card app from 1999 that just sat there all day long passing serial commands from the serial port and translating them into shell commands! fixed a huge problem with about a dozen lines of mc code in like 10 minutes that had the video server installer guys stumped! goes to show the power of mc/rev! On Sep 21, 2010, at 5:06 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Jeff- Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 1:23:13 PM, you wrote: on my app to com 1 (i had that built in there). does win 7 do something different that an older rev would not do to call the serial port? do i need to rebuild the app in a later version of rev to create a win7 app that will call the com port on win7? Hmmm... overzealous antivirus software? Do you need admin rights to access the serial ports in Win 7? -- -Mark Wieder ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook (was: Online Snippets library)
Which is one of the many reasons I prefer to run the standalone alongside of LiveCode instead of from within it. On Sep 23, 2010, at 12:56 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Will all due respect, Hugh, I've always cringed with the upgrade process with SS. It was never clear what to do with the mess in the folder that was left, and what was what. On 23 September 2010 10:19, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.comwrote: A hanging app has been reported when using an old version of the standAlone with ssBk. Go to www.flexibleLearning.com/ssbk, click FREE DOWNLOADS and download a replacement standalone application in the Extras: Application Programs section of the page. After an update, the 'new folder' is always generated in the same folder as the folder you started in. You simply archive your old set-up and move the new files back into the original folder. This is a fail-safe so you can always revert. Hugh Senior FLCo JosepM wrote: Hi Hugh, I tryed to update to the last version, but the app is hang up, and still Startup... Exactly what I must do after update and see the NEW Scripter's Scrapbook? I have version 5.2.16, inside the 5.2.17 and now inside of this the 5.2.19... :( Only I can use the 5.2.16... Salut, Josep M ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The currently playing track revMobile
Terry, Although it is possible to 'get' the current track info from obj-c but I very much doubt that LiveCode will have that same level of access. We need an external pass through for revMobile that will let us do calls to these libraries. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Sep 23, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Ian Wood wrote: Neat idea. After a quick bit of searching, this was added to the SDK with OS3 - so it's possible, but I've no idea if it's possible with Rev. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/741847/iphone-sdk-accessing-current-song-information-through-an-app Ian On 23 Sep 2010, at 19:30, Terry Vogelaar wrote: I want to write an iOS app that allows me to edit the tags of the tracks on my iPod Touch. Often when I listen to music on my iPod, I want to edit the data of the currently playing track. For example, I want to set the genre, or at least add some comments to it. And when I connect the iPod to my iMac, I want that data to sync back to iTunes automatically. I don't know of any app that has similar functionality, so I doubt whether the SDK allows it. But it sure would be great if it did. As far as I know, the only information that is synced back from my iPod to iTunes is: star ratings and play counts. But I would love to do more. If this is simply impossible, could there be some kind of workaround? For example: the app records the title artist of the currently playing track to a text file on the iPod, along with the data I would like to add/modify. When connected to the Mac, an AppleScript could process that text file to make the changes to the corresponding track(s) in iTunes. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. Terry___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The currently playing track revMobile
I don't think Steve Jobs would have a problem with that. OH WAIT! Yes he would. ;-) Bob On Sep 23, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Terry, Although it is possible to 'get' the current track info from obj-c but I very much doubt that LiveCode will have that same level of access. We need an external pass through for revMobile that will let us do calls to these libraries. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open printing to PDF bug?
This work for me, without change the exact size of the elements, but l lost about 2 cm at the bottom of the page. I need to force the stack size and move to some position that I can edit later, so if I use it in my laptop the stack is resized and when I print the PDF only show the visible area of the stack. The idea is make this stack invisible. Put the margin to 0 left about 2 cm at top and at bottom, left and right are about 1cm... on mouseUp set the location of this stack to 600,600 set the width of this stack to 595 set the height of this stack to 842 set the printPaperSize to 595,842 put 595,842 into thePaperSize put 0 into theMargin -- get the page area: set the printMargins to theMargin,theMargin,theMargin,theMargin -- put theMargin,theMargin, item 1 of thePaperSize - theMargin, item 2 of thePaperSize - theMargin into destinationRect -- print into that rectangle: open printing to pdf /Users/joss/Desktop/card_test.pdf print this card --into destinationRect close printing end mouseUp Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Open-printing-to-PDF-bug-tp2550663p2552864.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Where can I found the Shaosean libs?
Hi, Some time ago I saw in the Shaosean's website that he had a interesting libraries and stacks. Often I check their website but I don't found any. It's posible locate the FTP and SMTP libraries? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Where-can-I-found-the-Shaosean-libs-tp2552883p2552883.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where can I found the Shaosean libs?
2nd position on Google for shao sean http://www.shaosean.tk/ On 23 September 2010 16:19, JosepM jmye...@mac.com wrote: Hi, Some time ago I saw in the Shaosean's website that he had a interesting libraries and stacks. Often I check their website but I don't found any. It's posible locate the FTP and SMTP libraries? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Where-can-I-found-the-Shaosean-libs-tp2552883p2552883.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The message sent before preOpenStack
I forgot the name of the message sent to the first card of the main stack in a standalone before everything else, even preOpenStack. I have used it before but those stacks are not where I am. What is the name of the message? execute? setup? preamble? begin? Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where can I found the Shaosean libs?
I misread. you need to contact Shao directly. I dearly regret mentioning something about some error in the code of a demo stack not meeting Shao's usual (excellent) 'standards'. I think my statements may have lost something in translation, as Shao was obviously insulted. It was meant as a compliment and a gentle mention of the coding error. Now it's become a byline on Shao's website. http://www.shaosean.tk/ On 23 September 2010 16:21, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: 2nd position on Google for shao sean http://www.shaosean.tk/ On 23 September 2010 16:19, JosepM jmye...@mac.com wrote: Hi, Some time ago I saw in the Shaosean's website that he had a interesting libraries and stacks. Often I check their website but I don't found any. It's posible locate the FTP and SMTP libraries? Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Where-can-I-found-the-Shaosean-libs-tp2552883p2552883.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The message sent before preOpenStack
startUp -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at http://qurl.tk/ce Create installers for Mac and Windows on *every* Rev-compatible platform. No additional software needed. On 24 sep 2010, at 01:25, Dar Scott wrote: I forgot the name of the message sent to the first card of the main stack in a standalone before everything else, even preOpenStack. I have used it before but those stacks are not where I am. What is the name of the message? execute? setup? preamble? begin? Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The message sent before preOpenStack
startup On 23 September 2010 16:25, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote: I forgot the name of the message sent to the first card of the main stack in a standalone before everything else, even preOpenStack. I have used it before but those stacks are not where I am. What is the name of the message? execute? setup? preamble? begin? Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The currently playing track revMobile
Sounds a MUST HAVE function idea for me that pass through... !!! Hope it gets through.. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/The-currently-playing-track-revMobile-tp2552505p2552894.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Hopefully a simple question
Finally am getting back on my feet(health stuff, long story) and want to try and learn some new things. I'm looking at making a very simple overhead view rpg, and my thought was to use tilesets and set the imagesource of the chars to the desired tile based on letter. (meaing w for wall, f for floor b for building etc) The viewport will be a small 9x9 area with the current 'map' held in a variable. Before I go too far down this path, does anyone have any tips/pointers/warnings or better direction for me to go? My thinking was track the current position of the character against the map file, then on move, update the char postion (which will always be centered in the viewport) and use that to get the chars in the surounding area, lock the screen, update the field contents with the areas text representation and set all the image ids, then unlock. Would a datagrid be a better method for this? With a row template of 9 tile size images viewing 9 rows, and use fillindata to choose what imagadata to set each row tile to.. I was thinking this might work pretty well as I will only have to worry about the charoffset for each data row, and the datagrid will handle which rows are displayed. Other methods? At this point i'm not even really worried about collisions or anything of that nature. And I'm still determining if the map should bind edge to edge (making around the world trips possible) Any and all hints would be welcome. Thanks! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hopefully a simple question
Would a datagrid be a better method for this? With a row template of 9 tile size images viewing 9 rows, and use fillindata to choose what imagadata to set each row tile to.. I was thinking this might work pretty well as I will only have to worry about the charoffset for each data row, and the datagrid will handle which rows are displayed. Hi Mike I'd suggest using 9 transparent buttons grouped and use icons and image names. Then your group could have get and setprop handlers to handle multi-dimensional arrays. -- group script getProp map return the customProperties[map] of me end map -- pMap is a multi-dimensional array representing your map -- pMap[1][1] = the top left corner -- btn names are 1,1.. 9,9 setProp map pMap repeat with tRow = 1 to 3 repeat with tColumn = 1 to 3 set the icon of btn (tRow,tColumn) to the short id of image pMap[tRow][tColumn] end repeat end repeat set the customProperties[map] of me to pMap end map You could have a larger world map also and this 9x9 view could just display sections of it. Cheers -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hopefully a simple question
Pulling out sections for view is part of the plan, after experimenting more, setting imagesource for my map is probably not on the good idea list, so i'm going to experiment with the button idea, thank you much. Might experiment with the same thing in a datagrid just for practice. Think if I store the map in an array as you suggest, I can also store location cues like chance of random spawn, treasure level and the like. I'm off to experiment, tyvm for your suggestions, really appreciated. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Would a datagrid be a better method for this? With a row template of 9 tile size images viewing 9 rows, and use fillindata to choose what imagadata to set each row tile to.. I was thinking this might work pretty well as I will only have to worry about the charoffset for each data row, and the datagrid will handle which rows are displayed. Hi Mike I'd suggest using 9 transparent buttons grouped and use icons and image names. Then your group could have get and setprop handlers to handle multi-dimensional arrays. -- group script getProp map return the customProperties[map] of me end map -- pMap is a multi-dimensional array representing your map -- pMap[1][1] = the top left corner -- btn names are 1,1.. 9,9 setProp map pMap repeat with tRow = 1 to 3 repeat with tColumn = 1 to 3 set the icon of btn (tRow,tColumn) to the short id of image pMap[tRow][tColumn] end repeat end repeat set the customProperties[map] of me to pMap end map You could have a larger world map also and this 9x9 view could just display sections of it. Cheers -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hopefully a simple question
Hi Mike, I don't have anything to add with regard to organizing your game, but if you want some really spiffy graphics for tile based game design there are some really good free ones at the following url: http://lunar.lostgarden.com/labels/free%20game%20graphics.html For instance the set: Danc's Miraculously Flexible Game Prototyping TilesFound these working on a project with my son. Good luck, have fun! Wayne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Awesome, since i'm horrible at graphic design, I was hoping to find free tilesets, and those look really nice! Thank you thank you. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, wayne durden wdur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, I don't have anything to add with regard to organizing your game, but if you want some really spiffy graphics for tile based game design there are some really good free ones at the following url: http://lunar.lostgarden.com/labels/free%20game%20graphics.html For instance the set: Danc's Miraculously Flexible Game Prototyping TilesFound these working on a project with my son. Good luck, have fun! Wayne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hopefully a simple question
You might consider using buttons, not for any button functionality, but to reference images. Lay those out as you need. They will be in the same coordinates as your sprites and arrows and things. You can butt those against each other. Adjust the margins if buttons have them. If you go to 3/4 view, tiling will still work and you can even have a little overlap. Just layer them right. Your game world might be a toroid. That is, left and right wrap and up and down wrap. Dar Scott On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: Finally am getting back on my feet(health stuff, long story) and want to try and learn some new things. I'm looking at making a very simple overhead view rpg, and my thought was to use tilesets and set the imagesource of the chars to the desired tile based on letter. (meaing w for wall, f for floor b for building etc) The viewport will be a small 9x9 area with the current 'map' held in a variable. Before I go too far down this path, does anyone have any tips/pointers/warnings or better direction for me to go? My thinking was track the current position of the character against the map file, then on move, update the char postion (which will always be centered in the viewport) and use that to get the chars in the surounding area, lock the screen, update the field contents with the areas text representation and set all the image ids, then unlock. Would a datagrid be a better method for this? With a row template of 9 tile size images viewing 9 rows, and use fillindata to choose what imagadata to set each row tile to.. I was thinking this might work pretty well as I will only have to worry about the charoffset for each data row, and the datagrid will handle which rows are displayed. Other methods? At this point i'm not even really worried about collisions or anything of that nature. And I'm still determining if the map should bind edge to edge (making around the world trips possible) Any and all hints would be welcome. Thanks! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hopefully a simple question
3/4 view? Same as iso view? Oh cool, just looked up toroid (didn't know what it was believe it or not) got a visual of how that would work now, thx! Setting things up with buttons now, and simply using labels to mark terrain types for the moment so I can get a basic movement system running, still looking at graphics options. Thanks much for your pointers. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote: You might consider using buttons, not for any button functionality, but to reference images. Lay those out as you need. They will be in the same coordinates as your sprites and arrows and things. You can butt those against each other. Adjust the margins if buttons have them. If you go to 3/4 view, tiling will still work and you can even have a little overlap. Just layer them right. Your game world might be a toroid. That is, left and right wrap and up and down wrap. Dar Scott On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: Finally am getting back on my feet(health stuff, long story) and want to try and learn some new things. I'm looking at making a very simple overhead view rpg, and my thought was to use tilesets and set the imagesource of the chars to the desired tile based on letter. (meaing w for wall, f for floor b for building etc) The viewport will be a small 9x9 area with the current 'map' held in a variable. Before I go too far down this path, does anyone have any tips/pointers/warnings or better direction for me to go? My thinking was track the current position of the character against the map file, then on move, update the char postion (which will always be centered in the viewport) and use that to get the chars in the surounding area, lock the screen, update the field contents with the areas text representation and set all the image ids, then unlock. Would a datagrid be a better method for this? With a row template of 9 tile size images viewing 9 rows, and use fillindata to choose what imagadata to set each row tile to.. I was thinking this might work pretty well as I will only have to worry about the charoffset for each data row, and the datagrid will handle which rows are displayed. Other methods? At this point i'm not even really worried about collisions or anything of that nature. And I'm still determining if the map should bind edge to edge (making around the world trips possible) Any and all hints would be welcome. Thanks! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Sep 23, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: 3/4 view? Same as iso view? Probably, I don't know where I came up with 3/4. You don't have to do any math or perspective, just draw each tile as seen looking down but a bit looking (say) north. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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K gotcha. And then layer the button positions so that things work out once the tiles are set. I -think- I understand how this will work. Going back to play more. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote: On Sep 23, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: 3/4 view? Same as iso view? Probably, I don't know where I came up with 3/4. You don't have to do any math or perspective, just draw each tile as seen looking down but a bit looking (say) north. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Thank you all for the help. It's not pretty yet, but I now have a 9x9 grid that does wrap scrolling using the arrow keys, sets 1 of 2 possible tiles for each square based on current position, and it even seems to run decently fast. So far the data isn't coming from an array, just from a flat list, but it's working! No iso view yet, only using the 2 very simple tiles, but its a definate step! Thanks a ton! On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: K gotcha. And then layer the button positions so that things work out once the tiles are set. I -think- I understand how this will work. Going back to play more. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote: On Sep 23, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: 3/4 view? Same as iso view? Probably, I don't know where I came up with 3/4. You don't have to do any math or perspective, just draw each tile as seen looking down but a bit looking (say) north. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
