Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-06 Thread Alex Shaw

Hi Lynn

Also, will/is it compatible with revmobile?

regards
alex


On 5/10/10 9:02 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

Lynn,

Really amazing. Even if i got exactly the same beta-glichies exposed by Bob, 
Franklin Audio seems very promising (OS X 10.6.4 MBP i7 15). Will it be way to 
run it from within the webPlugin ?

Best Regards,

Pierre


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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-06 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/6/10 9:20 AM, Alex Shaw a...@harryscollar.com wrote:

 Hi Lynn
 
 Also, will/is it compatible with revmobile?

Hi Alex,

We did not considered yet revmobile ...

What this means?   
Port to iphone?  Others?

This is much more job agree.

Task is possible of course.
If there is enough interest ...

Iphone will be the most easy for us, because we have developers for it.


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VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-06 Thread René Micout
Hello,
I think you must put FranklinAudio.bundle into folder LiveCode 4.5 : 
Click + ctrl on LiveCode 4.5 : local menu  Afficher le contenu du paquet 
in French (Show Package in English ?)
A new window appears with folder Contents
Put FranklinAudio.bundle into Contents  Tools  Externals
After that all works for me : Mac OS X 10.6.4 + LiveCode 4.5
Bon souvenir de Paris
René

Le 6 oct. 2010 à 07:01, Sivakatirswami a écrit :

 On 10/4/10 10:08 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
 Run and play. If you don't hear anything, we want to know. And also we are
 talking suggestions for the demo. The goal of the 1.0 release is to deliver
 multi-channel audio by way of OpenAL.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Lynn Fredricks
 Aloha Lynn - Ruslan
 
 Look Ma no Quicktime! -- wonderful initiative!
 
 Platform: LiveCode 4.5; Mac OS X 10.6.4
 
 
 installed to my hard drive... I moved it to /Documents/Paradigama Software 
 (as I had this already from the bundle you sent last year for those who 
 bought that package Rev was selling then)
 
 I ran the install: a copy of the external was placed in:
 
 /Documents/My LiveCode/Externals/FranklinAudio.bundle
 
 quit LiveCode, double clicked your demo, it invoked an old Revolution in my 
 apps folder and did not work. I quit. Opened it in LiveCode and from the pull 
 down menu FancyPants.wav plays fine, but the Source Sharing Buffers does 
 not... I initialized the OpenAL buffers, but clicking on Rain (or any other 
 source)
 
 -- Will add a new water drop source to the audio scene.
 function AddSource  type1
   -- Create source
   get alGenSources(1, Source);  # breaks on this line
 
 If I leave the substack open and click Stop
 
 I get a script error thrown here:
 
 function KillALData
   put Sources_idx-1 into Sources_idx
   //repeat while (Sources_idx  0)
 
  get alDeleteSources(Sources_idx, Sources);  # breaks on this line
  //put Sources_idx-1 into Sources_idx
 
 I tried to quit LiveCode, but the IDE is frozen now, spinning beachball 
 cursor. check Processes, LiveCode not responding. I force quit
 
 I restart LiveCode, open your demo, FancyPants plays fine. Choose 02. Sources 
 Sharing Buffers. Click Initialize... no error... choose Rain.. nothing 
 happens, click on Water Drops... no script error window but the status window 
 displays Error generating audio source.   clicking on other choices nothing 
 happens click twice on any of them (Wind Chimes, Rolling Thunder) etc...
 
 Error generating audio source
 Error generating audio source
 Error generating audio source
 
 click start: clears the status feedback field but nothing plays. I quit the 
 demo. This time LiveCode does not hang.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-06 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 10/6/10 8:40 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

Hi Mark,

 Ah... OK. I must be getting tired.
 Found the installer stack, ran it. Seemed OK, but just sat there on
 the screen. I shut down the IDE, not saving changes. I hope that was
 correct. Then I loaded the example stack and pressed buttons. Still no
 sound, though.

Okay, we have progress :-)

Example 1 - should work 100%

Example 2 on some computers really not sounds sometimes from start, but if
click many times by buttons with effects sound starts.

Another strange way to force it sounds
 set [x] Logging  to be ON.
 then second example also works 100% cases.


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LiveCode mention at Programmers Stack Exchange

2010-10-06 Thread RunRevPlanet

Hi All,

There is an entry for LiveCode at a new site called Programmers Stack 
Exchange in a question titled, What’s your favorite programming language?


The web address for it is:

http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/6847/whats-your-favorite-programming-language

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Re: sorting html text with arrays

2010-10-06 Thread Jim Ault

Use the form

sort myContainer by mySortFuction(each, myContainer)
-- specify text, numeric, ascending, descending

function mySortFunction singleLineOfList, wholeList
   --apply as many rules as you wish
   --filter as many times as you wish
   --build as many arrays or tables as you wish
   return (a value to sort by)
end mySortFunction


Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On Oct 5, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Mark Swindell wrote:

Excellent question, and one I only thought of after posting mine!   
There would need to be a series of precedence rules, and I don't  
know them.


But to simplify, let's say you had unique examples of styled tex,  
and t that you wanted to maintain their styles.  For example, in  
this mini-dictionary I've got 26 (almost) unique headings:  A B C  
D... etc. bold, larger font, underlined.  I want them to maintain  
their integrity while adding in a batch of new words.  Would it be  
possible to sort while leaving alone the htmlText characteristics of  
first instance items in a field such as this?


Mark


On Oct 5, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Dick Kriesel wrote:

Hi, Mark.  What are the rules for handling words that appear with  
more than

one style?

-- Dick 



On 10/5/10 11:40 AM, Mark Swindell mdswind...@cruzio.com wrote:

I'm using the following script to create a glossary/word list of  
all words
appearing in a songbook I'm making in Apple's Pages word processor  
(over 2,000

unique words).   (Thanks to Phil Davis for his help with arrays.)

What I am wondering is if the formatted text can be retained in a  
case like
this, and how.  My attempts so far have failed, as the htmlText  
tags are
included in the sort... not what I want.)  I'd like to be able to  
paste in
from the word processor and do the sort while maintaining  
formatting (bold,
font, font size), and then be able to take that result and copy  
and paste it

back into the word processor.

Am I asking too much?

Thanks
Mark

on mouseUp
 repeat for each word tWord in tStripEm
  add 1 to aWordCounts[tWord]
 end repeat
 put the keys of aWordCounts into tList
 sort lines of tList
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RevBrowser bug

2010-10-06 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi all, 

I just filed a bug report for a nasty bug I found today and wanted to let you 
know.

When you toggle the resizable of a stack with an active browser, the content 
of the browser will disappear in data nirvana :-/

Try it yourself:
Open an URL in any browser and toggle the resizable of that stack with a button
or the message box, big fun :-/

You will need to close the browser and open a new instance to make it work 
again.


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Re: RevBrowser bug

2010-10-06 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi all,

 Hi all, 
 
 I just filed a bug report for a nasty bug I found today and wanted to let you 
 know.
 
 When you toggle the resizable of a stack with an active browser, the 
 content 
 of the browser will disappear in data nirvana :-/
 
 Try it yourself:
 Open an URL in any browser and toggle the resizable of that stack with a 
 button
 or the message box, big fun :-/
 
 You will need to close the browser and open a new instance to make it work 
 again.

the same happens when you set the fullscreen of stack xyz to true


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Re: RevBrowser bug

2010-10-06 Thread Mike Bonner
This happens because the revbrowser instance is linked to a specific
windowid and certain things change that id. As you mentioned changing the
resizable, going fullscreen, and if I recall correctly, changing the window
decorations all change the windowid.  Haven't tried it but changing window
mode will probably do this also.

This is something that I too hope will be changed/fixed? Though i'm not sure
if it should be a bug report or a feature request.

Where is your report, i'll vote for it.

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:

 Hi all,

  Hi all,
 
  I just filed a bug report for a nasty bug I found today and wanted to let
 you know.
 
  When you toggle the resizable of a stack with an active browser, the
 content
  of the browser will disappear in data nirvana :-/
 
  Try it yourself:
  Open an URL in any browser and toggle the resizable of that stack with a
 button
  or the message box, big fun :-/
 
  You will need to close the browser and open a new instance to make it
 work again.

 the same happens when you set the fullscreen of stack xyz to true


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Re: RevBrowser bug

2010-10-06 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Mike,

 This happens because the revbrowser instance is linked to a specific
 windowid and certain things change that id. As you mentioned changing the
 resizable, going fullscreen, and if I recall correctly, changing the window
 decorations all change the windowid.  Haven't tried it but changing window
 mode will probably do this also.
 
 This is something that I too hope will be changed/fixed? Though i'm not sure
 if it should be a bug report or a feature request.

whatever, I marked it as Blocker

A workaround ist to make the stack NOT resizable and use the Mac Style Stack 
Resizer
from the object lib or make your own :-) 

 Where is your report, i'll vote for it.

Ah, sorry, here it is:
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=9041


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Re: RevBrowser bug

2010-10-06 Thread Mike Bonner
Done.

I've fought with this before. Its a real pain in the butt. Did things like
setup the browser stack as a float on top stack that was docked with the
stack behind.  Then I could do stuff with the back stack and have the front
respond. Never did work very well.

Ended up doing as you suggested, using the resizer from the library, dumped
the stock decorations etc, and since it was a video player window that I
wished to be able to go in and out of fullscreen while playing a streaming
vid in the browser, I ended up having a 2nd stack that existed for the sole
purpose of going into and out of fullscreen behind the browser window to
obscure the menu bar and dock. libKiosk worked pretty good for this too.

Hoping when/if the externals go public that problems like this will poof and
go away.

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:

 Hi Mike,

  This happens because the revbrowser instance is linked to a specific
  windowid and certain things change that id. As you mentioned changing the
  resizable, going fullscreen, and if I recall correctly, changing the
 window
  decorations all change the windowid.  Haven't tried it but changing
 window
  mode will probably do this also.
 
  This is something that I too hope will be changed/fixed? Though i'm not
 sure
  if it should be a bug report or a feature request.

 whatever, I marked it as Blocker

 A workaround ist to make the stack NOT resizable and use the Mac Style
 Stack Resizer
 from the object lib or make your own :-)

  Where is your report, i'll vote for it.

 Ah, sorry, here it is:
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=9041


 Best

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Re: iphoneRotateInterface command in mobile apps

2010-10-06 Thread paolo mazza
I have to'inform you that opening a mobile application in the iPad the
platform is iPhone so
In our Rev_mobile applications we have to' write

if the environment is iPhone then
  iphoneRotateInterface landscape left
end if

On Thursday, September 16, 2010, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote:


 We'll be performing an update to fix this before the shipping version. But
 in the mean time you can do this:

 if the environment is mobile then
   iphoneRotateInterface landscape left
 end if

 Kind regards,

 Kevin

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Re: iphoneRotateInterface command in mobile apps

2010-10-06 Thread Colin Holgate

On Oct 6, 2010, at 9:21 AM, paolo mazza wrote:

 I have to'inform you that opening a mobile application in the iPad the
 platform is iPhone so
 In our Rev_mobile applications we have to' write
 
 if the environment is iPhone then
  iphoneRotateInterface landscape left
 end if

The iPhone simulator reports mobile, so you could do this to take care of 
both cases:

   if the environment is iPhone or the environment is mobile then
  iphoneRotateInterface landscape left
   end if

Is there an orientation change event that we can use, or can we read the 
current orientation? Really, you would not use the above line if the user 
happens to be holding the iPad in landscape right at the time. That would be 
enough to get an App rejected by Apple.

Here's the logic I'm using in Flash, for an App that needs to be in landscape:

var startOrientation:String=stage.orientation;
if (startOrientation==default||startOrientation==upsideDown) {
   stage.setOrientation(StageOrientation.ROTATED_RIGHT);
} else {
   stage.setOrientation(startOrientation);
}


So, if the device is in either portrait, then I use landscape left (which in 
Flash terms mean that the stage needs to be rotated right). If the device is 
already landscape, then I set the stage to match the current orientation, 
allowing a landscape right kinda person to carry on working like they want to.

In Flash there is also a change event, and on the change event you can prevent 
portrait if you want to. My routine looks like this:

stage.addEventListener(StageOrientationEvent.ORIENTATION_CHANGING, 
orientationChangeListener);
function orientationChangeListener(e:StageOrientationEvent) {
   if (e.afterOrientation==default||e.afterOrientation==upsideDown) {
  e.preventDefault();
   }
}

In Flash things are usually passed on, so there's no need to do the equivalent 
of a pass for the system to go ahead and do the orientation change, the 
preventDefault will stop the change before it happens.

LiveCode needs to have the same abilities as Flash does for handling 
orientation.


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Plug-ins missing

2010-10-06 Thread DunbarX
LiveCode did not make a new plug-ins folder, it seems to use the old Rev 
one.

I have a few of these in the old Rev plug-ins folder, which did some stuff 
on startup. They no longer show up in the plug-ins submenu of the 
Development menu (in liveCode) even though they are still in that folder.

So why can't LiveCode see mine, but does see the several default ones?

Thanks.

Craig Newman
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Re: LiveCode mention at Programmers Stack Exchange

2010-10-06 Thread Andre Garzia
can't vote, no reputation!

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:11 AM, RunRevPlanet 
runrevpla...@smpcs.server101.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 There is an entry for LiveCode at a new site called Programmers Stack
 Exchange in a question titled, What’s your favorite programming language?

 The web address for it is:


 http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/6847/whats-your-favorite-programming-language

 in case anyone uses that site, and would like to vote for it.

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Re: RevBrowser bug

2010-10-06 Thread Andre Garzia
can someone confirm this is a regression?

Did it happen in 4.0 or 3.x ?

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Done.

 I've fought with this before. Its a real pain in the butt. Did things like
 setup the browser stack as a float on top stack that was docked with the
 stack behind.  Then I could do stuff with the back stack and have the front
 respond. Never did work very well.

 Ended up doing as you suggested, using the resizer from the library, dumped
 the stock decorations etc, and since it was a video player window that I
 wished to be able to go in and out of fullscreen while playing a streaming
 vid in the browser, I ended up having a 2nd stack that existed for the sole
 purpose of going into and out of fullscreen behind the browser window to
 obscure the menu bar and dock. libKiosk worked pretty good for this too.

 Hoping when/if the externals go public that problems like this will poof
 and
 go away.

 On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com
 wrote:

  Hi Mike,
 
   This happens because the revbrowser instance is linked to a specific
   windowid and certain things change that id. As you mentioned changing
 the
   resizable, going fullscreen, and if I recall correctly, changing the
  window
   decorations all change the windowid.  Haven't tried it but changing
  window
   mode will probably do this also.
  
   This is something that I too hope will be changed/fixed? Though i'm not
  sure
   if it should be a bug report or a feature request.
 
  whatever, I marked it as Blocker
 
  A workaround ist to make the stack NOT resizable and use the Mac Style
  Stack Resizer
  from the object lib or make your own :-)
 
   Where is your report, i'll vote for it.
 
  Ah, sorry, here it is:
  http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=9041
 
 
  Best
 
  Klaus
 
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Re: RevBrowser bug

2010-10-06 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Andre,

 can someone confirm this is a regression?
 Did it happen in 4.0 or 3.x ?

I also tested this on Rev 3.4 and 4.0, same problem.


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Re: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode

2010-10-06 Thread Alex Shaw

Hi Ruslan

Personally, I have one project which audio playback and recording is 
central so having a cross platform (other than quicktime) solution is 
useful, particularly windows  mobile platforms.


regards
alex

On 6/10/10 5:05 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:

On 10/6/10 9:20 AM, Alex Shawa...@harryscollar.com  wrote:


Hi Lynn

Also, will/is it compatible with revmobile?


Hi Alex,

We did not considered yet revmobile ...

What this means?
 Port to iphone?  Others?

This is much more job agree.

Task is possible of course.
If there is enough interest ...

Iphone will be the most easy for us, because we have developers for it.



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Re: Plug-ins missing

2010-10-06 Thread stephen barncard
as mentioned on this list, with 4.5 you need to reset the default user
folder in the IDE settings. Your original prefs for this are not reset and
Rev does not always create folders. It does not have to be named My
Whatever but the directory name needs to be set.

On 6 October 2010 09:27, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

 LiveCode did not make a new plug-ins folder, it seems to use the old Rev
 one.

 I have a few of these in the old Rev plug-ins folder, which did some stuff
 on startup. They no longer show up in the plug-ins submenu of the
 Development menu (in liveCode) even though they are still in that folder.

 So why can't LiveCode see mine, but does see the several default ones?

 Thanks.

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Any Worky on Win XP? (RE: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode)

2010-10-06 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Hi Mark and all,

Anyone get full function on Windows XP SP 3?


  On 10/6/10 4:29 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:
  There are TWO folders installed
 
 Ah... OK. I must be getting tired.
 Found the installer stack, ran it. Seemed OK, but just sat 
 there on the screen. I shut down the IDE, not saving changes. 
 I hope that was correct. Then I loaded the example stack and 
 pressed buttons. Still no sound, though.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
President
Paradigma Software
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

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Re: RevBrowser bug

2010-10-06 Thread Ken Ray
On 10/6/10 9:58 AM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:

 Hi Andre,
 
 can someone confirm this is a regression?
 Did it happen in 4.0 or 3.x ?
 
 I also tested this on Rev 3.4 and 4.0, same problem.

But isn't this just when you turn the resizable of a stack on and off? I
mean if the stack is meant to be resizable, wouldn't you just leave it
resizable? I have several resizable revBrowser stacks with no problems (at
least, not as far as resizing goes :-)...

I'm just curious, I guess... is it only during dev in the IDE that you are
toggling the resizable of a stack? Or if you do it at runtime, I'd be
curious to find how you're applying this functionality...



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Re: Plug-ins missing

2010-10-06 Thread Richard Gaskin

stephen barncard wrote:


as mentioned on this list, with 4.5 you need to reset the default user
folder in the IDE settings. Your original prefs for this are not reset and
Rev does not always create folders. It does not have to be named My
Whatever but the directory name needs to be set.


I've set my plugins directory in LiveCode Prefs, but re-launch LC it 
seems it doesn't find them - none appear in the Plugins menu, only the 
default ones.


Is this a known issue, or is there something odd with my installation?

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Re: HTML Text and Images

2010-10-06 Thread Ken Ray
 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com wrote:
 
  If
 worse comes to worse I can always just keep the image I create to get the
 dimensions, resize it and use it instead.
 
 
 I think this is the only way.
 
 If you'd go with RevBrowser you could set image attribute such as height and
 width in the img tag but HTMLText does not work like that. Heck, I wish it
 was not called HTMLText but SGMLText or something like FancyTaggedText

Actually you can do it this way:

1) Retrieve the image from the web into an image object.
2) Change the size of the image object itself, making sure to keep the
dimensions consistent so you don't get stretching/skewing.
3) Lock the image object (set the lockLoc of image to true)
4) In your field, instead of setting the htmlText to the image with the ID
of the image object in img src.

Here's a simple example (I had to add a couple of returns before the text so
you could see the bird - watch linewraps):

on mouseUp
  set the lockLoc of img testImage to false
  set the filename of img testImage to 
  set the filename of image testImage to
http://linkit.com/Schools/ETS%20Items/ETS%20Item%20Bank/ETS10Q1/01%20Full%2
0Bank/04%20ELA%20QTI%20with%20GUIDs/Grade%20KLanguage%20Arts-95/images/38228
.jpg
  set the width of img testimage to (the width of img testimage/4)
  set the height of img testimage to (the height of img testimage/4)
  set the lockLoc of img testImage to true
  set the htmlText of fld 1 to (PPPHere's the bird img src=  quote
 (the id of img testImage)  quote  )
end mouseUp

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Re: Plug-ins missing

2010-10-06 Thread stephen barncard
it needs to not set to NOT the Plugins folder but the surrounding folder,
like My Livecode Stuff.
mine is set to Livecode inside of my dropbox directory.

On 6 October 2010 10:50, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:

 stephen barncard wrote:

  as mentioned on this list, with 4.5 you need to reset the default user
 folder in the IDE settings. Your original prefs for this are not reset and
 Rev does not always create folders. It does not have to be named My
 Whatever but the directory name needs to be set.


 I've set my plugins directory in LiveCode Prefs, but re-launch LC it seems
 it doesn't find them - none appear in the Plugins menu, only the default
 ones.

 Is this a known issue, or is there something odd with my installation?

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Re: Plug-ins missing

2010-10-06 Thread stephen barncard
tRev, now Remo also can use this location as its default for Remo stuff.

On 6 October 2010 10:59, stephen barncard
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.comwrote:

 it needs to not set to NOT the Plugins folder but the surrounding folder,
 like My Livecode Stuff.
 mine is set to Livecode inside of my dropbox directory.


 On 6 October 2010 10:50, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:

 stephen barncard wrote:

  as mentioned on this list, with 4.5 you need to reset the default user
 folder in the IDE settings. Your original prefs for this are not reset
 and
 Rev does not always create folders. It does not have to be named My
 Whatever but the directory name needs to be set.


 I've set my plugins directory in LiveCode Prefs, but re-launch LC it seems
 it doesn't find them - none appear in the Plugins menu, only the default
 ones.

 Is this a known issue, or is there something odd with my installation?

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Re: RevBrowser bug

2010-10-06 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Ken,

 On 10/6/10 9:58 AM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:
 Hi Andre,
 can someone confirm this is a regression?
 Did it happen in 4.0 or 3.x ?
 I also tested this on Rev 3.4 and 4.0, same problem.
 
 But isn't this just when you turn the resizable of a stack on and off?

Yep and if I toggle the fullscreen of stack xyz.

 I mean if the stack is meant to be resizable, wouldn't you just leave it
 resizable? I have several resizable revBrowser stacks with no problems (at
 least, not as far as resizing goes :-)...
 
 I'm just curious, I guess... is it only during dev in the IDE that you are
 toggling the resizable of a stack? Or if you do it at runtime, I'd be
 curious to find how you're applying this functionality...

In my current project I need to toggle this according to some META TAGs 
inside of the html source.

Ken, I was not born yesterday (LiveCode-wise) :-D

 Ken Ray
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 Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
 Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/

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Could someone could test this ?

2010-10-06 Thread Ludovic Thébault

Hello,

It seem that Revolution (4 and prior) doesn't play wmv videos that are  
on a CD-Rom under Windows Xp. I've tried with Parallels on my mac,  
it's work, i've tried on a real pc under Vista, it's works but under  
XP it doesn't works... but it work if it's a .mov video.


It's the same for you ?

If yes, i could block my app on Xp to try to load a wmv video on a  
cd-rom.


Thanks.


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Re: Plug-ins missing

2010-10-06 Thread Richard Gaskin

stephen barncard wrote:

 On 6 October 2010 10:50, Richard Gaskin wrote:
 I've set my plugins directory in LiveCode Prefs, but re-launch LC
 it seems it doesn't find them - none appear in the Plugins menu,
 only the default ones.

 Is this a known issue, or is there something odd with my
 installation?

 it needs to not set to NOT the Plugins folder but the surrounding
 folder, like My Livecode Stuff.
 mine is set to Livecode inside of my dropbox directory.

Thanks - worked a treat.

I guess the user is expected to dive into the manual to determine what 
Extensions means.


Requiring the user to set the Plugins folder to something other than 
their plugins folder in order to activate your plugins may not be 
intuitive to newcomers like myself.  ;)


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Shared backgrounds: properties that differ across cards?

2010-10-06 Thread David Bovill
Does anyone have a list of properties of an object that can be part of a
shared background (ie a group with bgbehavior = true), that can vary from
card to card that the background is placed on? From memory I can think of
just a couple:

   1. text in a field with sharedtext = false
   2. hilite of a button with sharedhilite = false
   3. other?
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Re: Plug-ins missing

2010-10-06 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi all,

 it needs to not set to NOT the Plugins folder but the surrounding folder,
 like My Livecode Stuff. mine is set to Livecode inside of my dropbox 
 directory.

here a related issue!

Yesterday I updated some old bugs of mine including this one:
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=2645

Looks like LiveCode does not check the externals folder inside of the
user My  folder. 

So none of the externals here are listed in the standalone builder
and thus do not get copied to into a standalone!


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Re: LiveCode mention at Programmers Stack Exchange

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Wieder
Scott-

Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 2:11:24 AM, you wrote:

 in case anyone uses that site, and would like to vote for it.

Ugh - it's not at all clear to me how to add comments. I see two
attempts were already made and ended up making new entries instead.

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Re: Plug-ins missing

2010-10-06 Thread stephen barncard
I couldn't find anything aobut it easily so I just 'dicked around' until it
worked!

On 6 October 2010 11:05, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:

 stephen barncard wrote:


 I guess the user is expected to dive into the manual to determine what
 Extensions means.


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Re: Plug-ins missing

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard-

Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 9:05:29 AM, you wrote:

 Requiring the user to set the Plugins folder to something other than
 their plugins folder in order to activate your plugins may not be 
 intuitive to newcomers like myself.  ;)

BZ #6034

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Re: Any Worky on Win XP? (RE: Download Beta Test Franklin Audio External for LiveCode)

2010-10-06 Thread Richmond

 On 10/06/2010 06:43 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:

Hi Mark and all,

Anyone get full function on Windows XP SP 3?




If it is any comfort at all, I have 4.5 dp-4 running perfectly on
Windows XP SP 3
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Re: LiveCode mention at Programmers Stack Exchange

2010-10-06 Thread Richmond

 On 10/06/2010 07:11 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

Scott-

Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 2:11:24 AM, you wrote:


in case anyone uses that site, and would like to vote for it.

Ugh - it's not at all clear to me how to add comments. I see two
attempts were already made and ended up making new entries instead.



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Cursor Position Within A Field

2010-10-06 Thread Warren Kuhl
Is there a command that tells me the character position of the where the
cursor is located in a field?

Also..is there a command that allows me to specify a character position to
change the cursor position within a field?

Thanks,
Warren
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Re: Drag drop reordering of a DataGrid form

2010-10-06 Thread zryip theSlug
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:32 AM, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.comwrote:

 Just to clarify, this is a change in the datagrid library itself not
 in the LiveCode engine.
 I have tried this by using the revdatagridlibrary stack from the
 LiveCode 4.5 into my version of Revolution 4.5 dp2 and now I have to
 set the dragAction to make the reorder perform.


 In the dgDragMove handler update the code that sets the dragAction to this:

 ## Make sure data grid control will accept drop
 if the dragSource contains the long ID of me and (the mouseControl is not
 empty and the long id of the mouseControl contains the long ID of me) then
   set the dragAction to move
 end if


Thanks Trevor 8-)


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Re: Cursor Position Within A Field

2010-10-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch
check out Select and SelectedChunk

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Warren Kuhl warrenk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a command that tells me the character position of the where the
 cursor is located in a field?

 Also..is there a command that allows me to specify a character position to
 change the cursor position within a field?

 Thanks,
 Warren
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Re: Cursor Position Within A Field

2010-10-06 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Warren,

 Is there a command that tells me the character position of the where the
 cursor is located in a field?

see selectedchunk in the dictionary, that is what you are looking for.

 Also..is there a command that allows me to specify a character position to
 change the cursor position within a field?

...
select after char 2 of fld 1
..
will do :-)

 Thanks,
 Warren

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Re: Cursor Position Within A Field

2010-10-06 Thread Warren Kuhl
Jonathan,

Thank you...this is exactly what I was looking for.

Appreciate it!
Warren

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Jonathan Lynch jonathandly...@gmail.comwrote:

 check out Select and SelectedChunk

 On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Warren Kuhl warrenk...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is there a command that tells me the character position of the where the
  cursor is located in a field?
 
  Also..is there a command that allows me to specify a character position
 to
  change the cursor position within a field?
 
  Thanks,
  Warren
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Re: Cursor Position Within A Field

2010-10-06 Thread Warren Kuhl
Thanks Klaus!

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.comwrote:

 Hi Warren,

  Is there a command that tells me the character position of the where the
  cursor is located in a field?

 see selectedchunk in the dictionary, that is what you are looking for.

  Also..is there a command that allows me to specify a character position
 to
  change the cursor position within a field?

 ...
 select after char 2 of fld 1
 ..
 will do :-)

  Thanks,
  Warren

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Re: Cursor Position Within A Field

2010-10-06 Thread DunbarX

In a message dated 10/6/10 1:37:34 PM, warrenk...@gmail.com writes:
I see you have your answer.. I thought you might have wanted the 
mouseChar. Check it out anyway...

Craig Newman

 Is there a command that tells me the character position of the where the
 cursor is located in a field?
 
 Also..is there a command that allows me to specify a character position to
 change the cursor position within a field?
 
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Re: LiveCode mention at Programmers Stack Exchange

2010-10-06 Thread Andre Garzia
you need 50 points of reputation before being able to comment. right now,
you can only answer (1 rep)

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:

  On 10/06/2010 07:11 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

 Scott-

 Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 2:11:24 AM, you wrote:

  in case anyone uses that site, and would like to vote for it.

 Ugh - it's not at all clear to me how to add comments. I see two
 attempts were already made and ended up making new entries instead.


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Could someone could test this ?

2010-10-06 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon

Hi Ludovic,

Why bother.

Download Handbrake (open source) - convert all your files to
Quicktime MP4. No more problems !!

Best Regards

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Re: Could someone could test this ?

2010-10-06 Thread Jeff Massung
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon effe...@wanadoo.frwrote:


 Download Handbrake (open source) - convert all your files to
 Quicktime MP4. No more problems !!



Handbrake is awesome.

'nuf sed.

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[OT+ANN] Just finished a rather large project

2010-10-06 Thread Jeff Massung
The past 4 months for me have been pretty grueling. But me (and all the
wonderful people in my team) have just finished up our latest project and
sent it off to Nintendo...

http://disney.go.com/disneyinteractivestudios/product.html?platform=wiigame=disneyepicmickey

That is all.

And thanks for anyone who put up with any short/blunt comments I've made
here while working 16-hour days, 7 days a week for the past 3-4 months. ;-)

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Re: Could someone could test this ?

2010-10-06 Thread Erik Schwartz
Handbrake totally rocks.



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 Hi Ludovic,

 Why bother.

 Download Handbrake (open source) - convert all your files to
 Quicktime MP4. No more problems !!
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Re: [OT+ANN] Just finished a rather large project

2010-10-06 Thread Andre Garzia
Wow! Quite good Jeff, can you describe more the process of development for
the Wii? Which tools do you guys use (Unity3d?)

:-D

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jeff Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote:

 The past 4 months for me have been pretty grueling. But me (and all the
 wonderful people in my team) have just finished up our latest project and
 sent it off to Nintendo...


 http://disney.go.com/disneyinteractivestudios/product.html?platform=wiigame=disneyepicmickey

 That is all.

 And thanks for anyone who put up with any short/blunt comments I've made
 here while working 16-hour days, 7 days a week for the past 3-4 months. ;-)

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Re: LiveCode mention at Programmers Stack Exchange

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Wieder
Andre-

Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 11:40:55 AM, you wrote:

 you need 50 points of reputation before being able to comment. right now,
 you can only answer (1 rep)

I saw the part about needing reputation points to vote, but didn't see
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Re: [OT+ANN] Just finished a rather large project

2010-10-06 Thread Andre Garzia
I am so gonna buy this! And not the pirate copy that sell next to my job for
USD 3...

:-D

the behind the scenes movie rocks!

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 Wow! Quite good Jeff, can you describe more the process of development for
 the Wii? Which tools do you guys use (Unity3d?)

 :-D


 On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jeff Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote:

 The past 4 months for me have been pretty grueling. But me (and all the
 wonderful people in my team) have just finished up our latest project and
 sent it off to Nintendo...


 http://disney.go.com/disneyinteractivestudios/product.html?platform=wiigame=disneyepicmickey

 That is all.

 And thanks for anyone who put up with any short/blunt comments I've made
 here while working 16-hour days, 7 days a week for the past 3-4 months.
 ;-)

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Re: LiveCode mention at Programmers Stack Exchange

2010-10-06 Thread Andre Garzia
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 Andre-

 Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 11:40:55 AM, you wrote:

  you need 50 points of reputation before being able to comment. right now,
  you can only answer (1 rep)

 I saw the part about needing reputation points to vote, but didn't see
 a notice about commenting.


the stackexchange software is like that in all their sites. I actually like
them. I have 23 reps and 3 badges on stackoverflow :-D


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Re: [OT+ANN] Just finished a rather large project

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Wieder
Jeff-

Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 12:43:05 PM, you wrote:

 The past 4 months for me have been pretty grueling. But me (and all the
 wonderful people in my team) have just finished up our latest project and
 sent it off to Nintendo...

 http://disney.go.com/disneyinteractivestudios/product.html?platform=wiigame=disneyepicmickey

The behind-the-scenes clip looks great. This oughta be hitsville.

 That is all.

LOL.

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Re: Could someone could test this ?

2010-10-06 Thread Jim Ault
Another trick with Handbrake is to set your video conversion to 15  
frames per second, and see if it plays well for you.  This will reduce  
the size by 50%.


Then create a preset.

On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Jeff Massung wrote:

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon effe...@wanadoo.fr 
wrote:




Download Handbrake (open source) - convert all your files to
Quicktime MP4. No more problems !!


Handbrake is awesome.

'nuf sed.


Jim Ault
Las Vegas



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Distinguishing between ASCII and UTF8

2010-10-06 Thread Richard Gaskin
I have an app that needs to auto-detect Unicode and plain text, and 
render them correctly based on that auto-detection.


I have the UTF16 stuff working, but with UTF8 I have a problem:  there 
is no BOM to let me know if it's Unicode, and some plain text files will 
occasionally have high-ASCII values in them (like the dagger symbol).


What patterns should I be looking for in the binary data of a file to 
distinguish UTF8 from plain text?


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Re: Distinguishing between ASCII and UTF8

2010-10-06 Thread Jeff Massung
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:

 I have an app that needs to auto-detect Unicode and plain text, and render
 them correctly based on that auto-detection.

 I have the UTF16 stuff working, but with UTF8 I have a problem:  there is
 no BOM to let me know if it's Unicode, and some plain text files will
 occasionally have high-ASCII values in them (like the dagger symbol).

 What patterns should I be looking for in the binary data of a file to
 distinguish UTF8 from plain text?


Sorry, Richard, but I believe you are out of luck here. The idea behind UTF8
is that it's indistinguishable from ASCII (0-127). You may be able to scan
the files, and if they are large enough, try and deduce some thing from them
to know which they are. For example:

On Windows, \r\n (13, 10) should terminate lines. Could very well be a
text file.

In ASCII there will never be a NULL terminator anywhere (byte 0). There's
likely many 0-byte values in any appreciably large Unicode file. This would
also be true of byte 8 (backspace) and byte 7 (the bell) and probably a few
others.

If the number of bytes that have the high bit (0x80) set is extremely low
( 1%) then most likely it's ASCII.

HTH,

Jeff M.
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Re: [OT+ANN] Just finished a rather large project

2010-10-06 Thread stephen barncard
I had some friends in the early 80's (when I worked for Datamost Games) that
were working for Disney Games. At the time they had a policy against long
hair and beards. I guess that's not so anymore!

On 6 October 2010 15:08, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 Jeff-

 Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 12:43:05 PM, you wrote:

  The past 4 months for me have been pretty grueling. But me (and all the
  wonderful people in my team) have just finished up our latest project and
  sent it off to Nintendo...

 
 http://disney.go.com/disneyinteractivestudios/product.html?platform=wiigame=disneyepicmickey

 The behind-the-scenes clip looks great. This oughta be hitsville.

  That is all.

 LOL.

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Re: iphoneRotateInterface command in mobile apps

2010-10-06 Thread Ben Rubinstein

On 06/10/2010 15:06, Colin Holgate wrote:

Is there an orientation change event that we can use, or can we read the 
current orientation?


Yes to both - the current card gets an orientationChanged message when the 
device physically changes, and you can query the orientation at any time 
(including getting face up and face down).  So you can tell when it 
changes, you can ask what it is at any time, and you can set the interface to 
any rotation at will.  But of course the basic implementation is just to tie 
these three things together with a handler like this:


on orientationChanged
iphoneRotateInterface iphoneDeviceOrientation()
end orientationChanged


BTW, revMobile is unbelievably exciting.  I say this as someone with a whole 
bunch of people in the studio working on iPhone and iPad projects in Xcode and 
ObjectiveC, who thought it was very nice but not interesting (and was 
selfishly perfectly content that the barrier to entry was kept high).  But I 
finally decided to get a copy to look at just before Steve Jobs did his 
U-turn, and it is utterly fantastic.  While my colleagues with more bare-metal 
skills are fully occupied, I was able to whip up a prototype for a client for 
one project, and a handy utility to assist the team on another, in an 
incredibly short time.  Now that the price has dropped so far, I'd advise 
anyone with an iPhone, iPad, (or WinMob phone?) and any interest in the 
subject to get hold of it.  I think this has massive potential.


Ben
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Re: LiveCode mention at Programmers Stack Exchange

2010-10-06 Thread RunRevPlanet

Mark-

You are right, the mechanism for leaving comments is not immediately 
obvious.


I only recently discovered the site, but was hoping that there may be 
some LiveCode users already using it.


My intention was not to lead new users of it into frustration.
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Re: LiveCode mention at Programmers Stack Exchange

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Wieder
RunRevPlanet-

Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 3:22:37 PM, you wrote:

 My intention was not to lead new users of it into frustration.

g If even Andre's reputation can't help him there, there's no hope
for the rest of us...

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Re: Distinguishing between ASCII and UTF8

2010-10-06 Thread Dave Cragg
Richard

Below is a function that was translated from a PHP script. It is intended to 
determine whether the passed in string could be utf8. I have tested it in a 
limited way  and it seems to work. But maybe someone else can see the flaws.

If it returns false, then it is not UTF8. If it returns true, it fits the 
pattern of utf8, but it could be something else like some random binary.

If it doesn't work, you could perhaps use it to scare children.

function couldBeUtf8 pString
   
   put (?is)^([\x09\x0A\x0D\x20-\x7E] into tRE
   put |[\xC2-\xDF][\x80-\xBF] after tRE
   put |\xE0[\xA0-\xBF][\x80-\xBF] after tRE
   put |[\xE1-\xEC\xEE\xEF][\x80-\xBF]{2} after tRE
   put |\xED[\x80-\x9F][\x80-\xBF] after tRE
   put |\xF0[\x90-\xBF][\x80-\xBF]{2} after tRE
   put |[\xF1-\xF3][\x80-\xBF]{3} after tRE 
   put |\xF4[\x80-\x8F][\x80-\xBF]{2})*$ after tRE
   
   return matchText(pString, tRE)

end couldBeUtf8

Cheers
Dave

On 6 Oct 2010, at 21:23, Richard Gaskin wrote:

 I have an app that needs to auto-detect Unicode and plain text, and render 
 them correctly based on that auto-detection.
 
 I have the UTF16 stuff working, but with UTF8 I have a problem:  there is no 
 BOM to let me know if it's Unicode, and some plain text files will 
 occasionally have high-ASCII values in them (like the dagger symbol).
 
 What patterns should I be looking for in the binary data of a file to 
 distinguish UTF8 from plain text?
 
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Re: Distinguishing between ASCII and UTF8

2010-10-06 Thread Peter W A Wood
Richard

 I have an app that needs to auto-detect Unicode and plain text, and render 
 them correctly based on that auto-detection.
 
 I have the UTF16 stuff working, but with UTF8 I have a problem:  there is no 
 BOM to let me know if it's Unicode, and some plain text files will 
 occasionally have high-ASCII values in them (like the dagger symbol).
 
 What patterns should I be looking for in the binary data of a file to 
 distinguish UTF8 from plain text?

These are the Rules of Thumb that I have used to try to determine the 
encoding type of text files. I feel that I achieved more than 90 per cent 
success but that may because most of the files only included true ASCII 
characters (0 -127). The script only tries to distinguish between ASCII, UTF-8, 
MacRoman and Windows 1252 Codepage (the US default for Windows).

Rules of Thumb, applied in the following order:

1. If the string starts with a BOM, the encoding infered by the BOM will be 
returned.

2. If the string contains only characters in the range 0x00 - 0x7F, it is an 
ASCII string.

3. If the string contains more UTF-8 multi-byte characters than it does invalid 
utf-8 characters and invalid multi-byte sequences, it is a UTF-8 string.

4. If the string contains characters in the range 0xA0 - 0xFF but none in the 
range 0x80 - 0x9F, it is an ISO-8859-1 string.

5. If the string contains any of 0x81, 0x8D, 0x8F, 0x90 or 0x9D, it is a 
MacRoman string. .

6. If the string contains carriage returns but no line feeds, it is a MacRoman 
string.

7. It is a Windows 1252 Codepage string.

The approach I take in the script is to count the different types of characters 
in the text and then apply the rules of thumb. The script is written in REBOL 
so will probably not be even be of help as a guide. However, the documentation 
includes a table of the differences between UTF-8, Windows 1252 and MacRoman 
which you may find useful. You can find it at 
http://www.rebol.org/documentation.r?script=str-enc-utils.r

Regards

Peter



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Re: Distinguishing between ASCII and UTF8

2010-10-06 Thread Richard Gaskin

Jeff, Dave, Peter:  thank you!

Good stuff - I think I'll be able to distinguish most files using those.

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