Re: Plugins folder
stephen- Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:50:33 PM, you wrote: Thanks all, for the info. Yes, being 'invisible' seems to place it in a special, possibly superior place in the *message path* - where does it live in the hierarchy? Since the plug stack exists in a different folder what is the file address path it need to use? Absolute only? Plugin folder POV?Plugins seem to be able to do some things better than just a loaded stack in the IDE. Plugin stacks aren't in the message hierarchy unless you explictly place them there. And then it's up to you if you want to set up front and/or backscripts or just launch the plugin as a stack. If you need to get the file path from the plugin you can get the long name of this stack -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder
Yes, being 'invisible' seems to place it in a special, possibly superior place in the *message path* - where does it live in the hierarchy? Since the plug stack exists in a different folder what is the file address path it need to use? Absolute only? Plugin folder POV? Plugins seem to be able to do some things better than just a loaded stack in the IDE. These are the main holes in my knowledge about this. I know that these stacks are almost impossible to edit *in invisible mode.* Plugins really do not have any more powers than a normal stack, it's just a convenient place to put utility stacks that you use often. They are not magical in any way, but they are often used to contain backScripts frontScripts which inserts their scripts into the hierarchy e.g. I have one that uses a frontScript to trap function keys, and if there is a script snippet attached to a particular key, it executes that snippet, before passing the function key on to the other stacks to the engine. In the Plugins Settings dialog, you can choose which system messages get sent to your plugin as well as when it opens and in what mode. If you need to know the path to the Plugins folder, there are 2 unsupported functions for this: revEnvironmentUserPluginsPath() revEnvironmentPluginsPath() You can edit stacks whose names start with rev, if you select Revolution UI Elements in Lists from the View menu, or in tRev, shift-click the tab name of a browser tab to toggle between showing all stacks and showing only non-Rev ones. The problem is debugging as Rev does not allow the debugger to step into rev stacks as far as I am aware. However again, if you are using tRev (which I think you are), then you can do any debugging using it's Decoder instead. There is a revExample plugin in my Plugins folder. If you have a look at that one, you might get some more ideas about how it all works. HTH, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder
stephen- Sunday, December 13, 2009, 9:13:50 AM, you wrote: Could someone point me to information on creating and the development of Rev IDE plugins? Well, since nobody else has chimed in here... are you referring to the plugins that show up in the Development menu? If so, 1. create a stack 2. put it in the user plugins folder 3. close and relaunch the IDE -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder
yeah, but how do you make it 'specail' and not visible in the IDE as a stack? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/12/13 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net stephen- Sunday, December 13, 2009, 9:13:50 AM, you wrote: Could someone point me to information on creating and the development of Rev IDE plugins? Well, since nobody else has chimed in here... are you referring to the plugins that show up in the Development menu? If so, 1. create a stack 2. put it in the user plugins folder 3. close and relaunch the IDE -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder
Rename the stack so the name starts with rev and it becomes invisible. My preference is to edit a plugin with a temporary name and only change it to rev when it is debugged, as debugging a rev stack is difficult. Cheers, Sarah On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: yeah, but how do you make it 'specail' and not visible in the IDE as a stack? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/12/13 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net stephen- Sunday, December 13, 2009, 9:13:50 AM, you wrote: Could someone point me to information on creating and the development of Rev IDE plugins? Well, since nobody else has chimed in here... are you referring to the plugins that show up in the Development menu? If so, 1. create a stack 2. put it in the user plugins folder 3. close and relaunch the IDE -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder
Ahh... that was it... thanks for both tips.I have plenty of candidates , just never made the next step. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/12/13 Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com Rename the stack so the name starts with rev and it becomes invisible. My preference is to edit a plugin with a temporary name and only change it to rev when it is debugged, as debugging a rev stack is difficult. Cheers, Sarah On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: yeah, but how do you make it 'specail' and not visible in the IDE as a stack? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/12/13 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net stephen- Sunday, December 13, 2009, 9:13:50 AM, you wrote: Could someone point me to information on creating and the development of Rev IDE plugins? Well, since nobody else has chimed in here... are you referring to the plugins that show up in the Development menu? If so, 1. create a stack 2. put it in the user plugins folder 3. close and relaunch the IDE -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder
Try doing: Development:Plugins:Plugin Settings then choose one from the popup menu then make you choices, such as invisible Jim Ault Las Vegas On Dec 13, 2009, at 4:38 PM, stephen barncard wrote: yeah, but how do you make it 'specail' and not visible in the IDE as a stack? 2009/12/13 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net Sunday, December 13, 2009, 9:13:50 AM, you wrote: Could someone point me to information on creating and the development of Rev IDE plugins? Well, since nobody else has chimed in here... are you referring to the plugins that show up in the Development menu? If so, 1. create a stack 2. put it in the user plugins folder 3. close and relaunch the IDE ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder
Thanks all, for the info. Yes, being 'invisible' seems to place it in a special, possibly superior place in the *message path* - where does it live in the hierarchy? Since the plug stack exists in a different folder what is the file address path it need to use? Absolute only? Plugin folder POV?Plugins seem to be able to do some things better than just a loaded stack in the IDE. These are the main holes in my knowledge about this. I know that these stacks are almost impossible to edit *in invisible mode.* - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/12/13 Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com Try doing: Development:Plugins:Plugin Settings then choose one from the popup menu then make you choices, such as invisible Jim Ault Las Vegas On Dec 13, 2009, at 4:38 PM, stephen barncard wrote: yeah, but how do you make it 'specail' and not visible in the IDE as a stack? 2009/12/13 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net Sunday, December 13, 2009, 9:13:50 AM, you wrote: Could someone point me to information on creating and the development of Rev IDE plugins? Well, since nobody else has chimed in here... are you referring to the plugins that show up in the Development menu? If so, 1. create a stack 2. put it in the user plugins folder 3. close and relaunch the IDE ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder? (was Re: How Galaxy is...)
Oddly though, my Galaxy Studio did not work in this configuration. I had to move the Galaxy folder and stack to the Applications/ Revolution Studio/2.7.3-gm-1/Plugins folder to get it to load automatically. I don't know why. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM As to where it is documented, I'm not sure. Perhaps in a 2.7.? read me file? I found it. It was hidden under Distribution Structure: There is a new directory structure. The customization folder is in Documents/My Revolution [edition], and contains subfolders: Plug ins now load from Plugins folder Database drivers now load from Database Drivers folder Externals now load from Externals folder External database drivers loaded here are picked up by Standalone Builder Object Libraries now stored in Resources/Object Libraries Image Libraries now stored in Resources/Image Libraries Files placed in these folders will override the files installed in the main Revolution installation directory. Thus all of these components will survive an update to the main Revolution install. Hmmm. I assume that by externals, it means revolution externals. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder? (was Re: How Galaxy is...)
This change came with 2.7.x. From 2.7 on, the Revolution folder is supposed to be considered read only so that the automatic updating, launching, etc. will work. As to where it is documented, I'm not sure. Perhaps in a 2.7.? read me file? As to versions, evidently your plugin should check the version and perform accordingly. (Keep in Mind that 2.6.1 and below still has the old folder format, so nothing changes there). At 02:08 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 5:40 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: The third party plugins folder is in the documents folder. The path is something like this, depending upon your OS and the version of Rev and Galaxy you have: ...documents/my revolution studio/plugins/ galaxy lite startup.rev. This is new to me. I thought the plugins folder was that named plugins in the same folder that contained the Revolution application. I thought all plugins were (virtually) 3rd party by definition. The all.pdf doc refers to the Plugins folder, which to me means one. (Well, it means that I should be able to identify the correct one from context, but for me the context says one.) What Rev versions look for plugins in these alternate places? If a Plugin requires a particular release of Revolution, how does Revolution know when to put it in the Plugins menu? Where is this documented? Not user/library ? Confused and curious... Dar Scott ___ Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder? (was Re: How Galaxy is...)
On Aug 17, 2006, at 1:14 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: As to where it is documented, I'm not sure. Perhaps in a 2.7.? read me file? I found it. It was hidden under Distribution Structure: There is a new directory structure. The customization folder is in Documents/My Revolution [edition], and contains subfolders: Plug ins now load from Plugins folder Database drivers now load from Database Drivers folder Externals now load from Externals folder External database drivers loaded here are picked up by Standalone Builder Object Libraries now stored in Resources/Object Libraries Image Libraries now stored in Resources/Image Libraries Files placed in these folders will override the files installed in the main Revolution installation directory. Thus all of these components will survive an update to the main Revolution install. Hmmm. I assume that by externals, it means revolution externals. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder in v2.7?
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Whats_New.txt file sez: There is a new directory structure. The customization folder is in Documents/My Revolution [edition], and contains subfolders: Plug ins now load from Plugins folder I've scoured my drive looking for such a folder and no luck. Whaddup widdat? -- Richard Gaskin Hi Richard, This folder is not created for you, unfortunately -- but you can make it yourself, in the 'My Documents' folder on Windows, or in the 'Documents' folder inside your 'Home' folder on MacOSX. Someone ought to make a stack that creates these for you, and post it on RevOnline or something ;-) Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. Quartam Reports for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder in v2.7?
Jan Schenkel wrote: --- Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com wrote: The Whats_New.txt file sez: There is a new directory structure. The customization folder is in Documents/My Revolution [edition], and contains subfolders: Plug ins now load from Plugins folder I've scoured my drive looking for such a folder and no luck. Whaddup widdat? This folder is not created for you, unfortunately -- but you can make it yourself, in the 'My Documents' folder on Windows, or in the 'Documents' folder inside your 'Home' folder on MacOSX. Someone ought to make a stack that creates these for you, and post it on RevOnline or something ;-) Yes. Perhaps it could be called the Rev IDE. :) I just submitted a request for this: http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=3475 -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder in v2.7?
Jan- Thursday, March 30, 2006, 11:57:39 AM, you wrote: Someone ought to make a stack that creates these for you, and post it on RevOnline or something ;-) Yep. That's my Save Plugin stack in user space mwieder -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
