Re: Stackrunner

2010-11-19 Thread David Bovill
On 17 November 2010 19:49, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu wrote:


  start using stack myIconStack --or whatever it's called.


You don't need to use the stack - it just needs to be loaded into memory.
Using the stack is one way to do that,  so is making it a substack of the
main stack as then they are in the same file and both loaded at the same
time.
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Re: Stackrunner

2010-11-18 Thread Peter Brigham MD

On Nov 17, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Richmond wrote:


On 11/17/2010 09:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
I'm not 100% sure how to do this.  I guess it means finding where  
the image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when  
my app starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?


Pete Haworth

I don't think this is all that difficult: set your prefs so ALL RR/ 
LC stacks show up in lists.


The open the prefs palette for the image library stack and set its  
mainstack to your stack and

save the thing; Done!


Clone a copy of the image library stack first, then set the mainstack  
of the *copy* to your stack. If you don't work on a copy, you'll move  
the IDE image library out of the IDE and next time it looks for an  
image it won't find one.


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Re: Stackrunner

2010-11-18 Thread Richmond

On 11/18/2010 09:21 PM, Peter Brigham MD wrote:

On Nov 17, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Richmond wrote:


On 11/17/2010 09:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
I'm not 100% sure how to do this.  I guess it means finding where 
the image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when 
my app starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?


Pete Haworth

I don't think this is all that difficult: set your prefs so ALL RR/LC 
stacks show up in lists.


The open the prefs palette for the image library stack and set its 
mainstack to your stack and

save the thing; Done!


Clone a copy of the image library stack first, then set the mainstack 
of the *copy* to your stack. If you don't work on a copy, you'll move 
the IDE image library out of the IDE and next time it looks for an 
image it won't find one.


Whoops; sorry chaps!



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Stackrunner

2010-11-17 Thread Peter Haworth
Just started using this and very happy but have come across a problem  
regarding button icons.  I imported a set of icons into the image  
library in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image  
Library when specifying icons for buttons.  All works fine in the IDE  
and standalone but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the  
buttons are invisible.  I can click on them OK (if I guess where they  
are!).  Any ideas as to why this might be happening?


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Re: Stackrunner

2010-11-17 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:

Just started using this and very happy but have come across a problem
regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image library
in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image Library when
specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE and standalone
but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the buttons are
invisible. I can click on them OK (if I guess where they are!). Any
ideas as to why this might be happening?


The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library, but 
StackRunner does not. The best way to make your images always available 
is to import them directly into your stack (the IDs will change) and 
refer to the embedded image IDs as your icons. Those will work anywhere.


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Re: Stackrunner

2010-11-17 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks.  It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon  
numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me.  Oh well!


Pete Haworth

On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:

Just started using this and very happy but have come across a problem
regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image  
library
in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image Library  
when
specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE and  
standalone

but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the buttons are
invisible. I can click on them OK (if I guess where they are!). Any
ideas as to why this might be happening?


The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library,  
but StackRunner does not. The best way to make your images always  
available is to import them directly into your stack (the IDs will  
change) and refer to the embedded image IDs as your icons. Those  
will work anywhere.


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Re: Stackrunner

2010-11-17 Thread Devin Asay

On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

 Thanks.  It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon  
 numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me.  Oh well!

Pete,

You could include the Image Library stack with your stack and start using it 
when it's opened by Stack Runner.

Devin


 
 Pete Haworth
 
 On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
 
 On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
 Just started using this and very happy but have come across a problem
 regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image  
 library
 in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image Library  
 when
 specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE and  
 standalone
 but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the buttons are
 invisible. I can click on them OK (if I guess where they are!). Any
 ideas as to why this might be happening?
 
 The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library,  
 but StackRunner does not. The best way to make your images always  
 available is to import them directly into your stack (the IDs will  
 change) and refer to the embedded image IDs as your icons. Those  
 will work anywhere.
 
 -- 
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 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Stackrunner

2010-11-17 Thread Richmond

On 11/17/2010 09:24 PM, Devin Asay wrote:

On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:


Thanks.  It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon
numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me.  Oh well!

Pete,

You could include the Image Library stack with your stack and start using it 
when it's opened by Stack Runner.

Devin

RR/LC is infinitely flexible, and Devin's suggestion should remind us 
all that RR/LC is itself
implemented in RR/LC (even if, frankly, that is rather difficult to 
conceptualise), and as such,
most componets of the IDE can be moved, as substacks, to one's own 
stacks, and then sent
off with StackRunner, or the Metacard IDE (that does NOT contain lots of 
components that

are present in the RR/LC setup), to do whatever one wants.

In fact, one of the first things I did, in 2001 when I discovered RR, 
was start unpacking the thing

as a way to understanding how it worked.

If one is not entirely happy with the RR/LC GUI one can use components 
from it to build an
individualised GUI, either on the RR/LC GUI, or by hacking the MC GUI. 
While this rarely
results in anythibg particularly better, it does prove an instructive 
exercise rather in the

same sort of way as one unpacks a series of nested Russian dolls.
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Re: Stackrunner

2010-11-17 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm not 100% sure how to do this.  I guess it means finding where the  
image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when my app  
starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?


Pete Haworth

On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Devin Asay wrote:



On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:


Thanks.  It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon
numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me.  Oh  
well!


Pete,

You could include the Image Library stack with your stack and start  
using it when it's opened by Stack Runner.


Devin




Pete Haworth

On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
Just started using this and very happy but have come across a  
problem

regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image
library
in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image Library
when
specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE and
standalone
but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the buttons are
invisible. I can click on them OK (if I guess where they are!). Any
ideas as to why this might be happening?


The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library,
but StackRunner does not. The best way to make your images always
available is to import them directly into your stack (the IDs will
change) and refer to the embedded image IDs as your icons. Those
will work anywhere.

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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Stackrunner

2010-11-17 Thread Devin Asay

On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

 I'm not 100% sure how to do this.  I guess it means finding where the  
 image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when my app  
 starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?

That's the general idea. You find the stack that contains the images you are 
using as button icons, make a copy of it, then include it with your mainstack. 
You could even make it a substack of your mainstack to keep it in the same 
stack file. Then, in the stack that uses the images, include the statement, 
probably in a preOpenStack handler:

  start using stack myIconStack --or whatever it's called.

Once you do that all images in the used stack are available to be used in the 
calling stack.

Devin


 On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Devin Asay wrote:
 
 
 On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
 
 Thanks.  It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon
 numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me.  Oh  
 well!
 
 Pete,
 
 You could include the Image Library stack with your stack and start  
 using it when it's opened by Stack Runner.
 
 Devin
 
 
 
 Pete Haworth
 
 On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
 
 On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
 Just started using this and very happy but have come across a  
 problem
 regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image
 library
 in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image Library
 when
 specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE and
 standalone
 but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the buttons are
 invisible. I can click on them OK (if I guess where they are!). Any
 ideas as to why this might be happening?
 
 The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library,
 but StackRunner does not. The best way to make your images always
 available is to import them directly into your stack (the IDs will
 change) and refer to the embedded image IDs as your icons. Those
 will work anywhere.
 
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Re: Stackrunner

2010-11-17 Thread Richmond

On 11/17/2010 09:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
I'm not 100% sure how to do this.  I guess it means finding where the 
image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when my app 
starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?


Pete Haworth

I don't think this is all that difficult: set your prefs so ALL RR/LC 
stacks show up in lists.


The open the prefs palette for the image library stack and set its 
mainstack to your stack and

save the thing; Done!
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Re: Stackrunner

2010-11-17 Thread Ken Ray
 The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library, but
 StackRunner does not.

That's right - the list of things that are built in to StackRunner are
listed under the Using StackRunner section of the web page:

 http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Although a lot of libraries and externals are provided with SR, images are
not.

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Re: Stackrunner

2010-11-17 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 11/17/10 2:14 PM, Ken Ray wrote:

The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image library, but
StackRunner does not.


That's right - the list of things that are built in to StackRunner are
listed under the Using StackRunner section of the web page:

  http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Although a lot of libraries and externals are provided with SR, images are
not.


It's still a wonderful tool. I use it sometimes to send prototypes or 
ideas to clients so I don't have to build standalones repeatedly for 
little things.


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Re: Stackrunner

2010-11-17 Thread Peter Haworth

Thanks Devin and Richmond.

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On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Devin Asay wrote:



On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:


I'm not 100% sure how to do this.  I guess it means finding where the
image library stack is then issuing a command of some sort when my  
app

starts up to bring that stack into my stack file?


That's the general idea. You find the stack that contains the images  
you are using as button icons, make a copy of it, then include it  
with your mainstack. You could even make it a substack of your  
mainstack to keep it in the same stack file. Then, in the stack that  
uses the images, include the statement, probably in a preOpenStack  
handler:


 start using stack myIconStack --or whatever it's called.

Once you do that all images in the used stack are available to be  
used in the calling stack.


Devin



On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Devin Asay wrote:



On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:


Thanks.  It will be a huge amount of work for me to change icon
numbers everywhere so I guess Stackrunner won't work for me.  Oh
well!


Pete,

You could include the Image Library stack with your stack and start
using it when it's opened by Stack Runner.

Devin




Pete Haworth

On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


On 11/17/10 11:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:

Just started using this and very happy but have come across a
problem
regarding button icons. I imported a set of icons into the image
library
in the IDE and refer to the icon numbers within the Image Library
when
specifying icons for buttons. All works fine in the IDE and
standalone
but in Stackrunner the icons are not displayed and the buttons  
are
invisible. I can click on them OK (if I guess where they are!).  
Any

ideas as to why this might be happening?


The IDE and the standalones it builds know about the image  
library,

but StackRunner does not. The best way to make your images always
available is to import them directly into your stack (the IDs will
change) and refer to the embedded image IDs as your icons. Those
will work anywhere.

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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: ANN: StackRunner 2.0 Now Available

2010-02-16 Thread andre

Ken,


Congrats! Thanks for doing this!

Can I include StackRunner in that Linux distribution that I am building?

Cheers
Andre

Enviado de meu iPhone

Em 16/02/2010, às 05:55, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com escreveu:


Recently, Ken Ray wrote:

After a LOOONNG time, I finally was able to update  
StackRunner

to use the 4.0 engine.


Thanks for doing this Ken -- every so often I have a need to send  
clients a

player engine and StackRunner is perfect for this.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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Re: ANN: StackRunner 2.0 Now Available

2010-02-16 Thread Ken Ray



On 2/16/10 8:13 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 Ken,
 
 
 Congrats! Thanks for doing this!
 
 Can I include StackRunner in that Linux distribution that I am building?

Absolutely! I'd be honored...



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ANN: StackRunner 2.0 Now Available

2010-02-15 Thread Ken Ray
After a LOOONNG time, I finally was able to update StackRunner
to use the 4.0 engine. It includes the Data Grid library by default, and the
StackRunner app now sports a new icon! :-)

For those of you who came to Rev after the last version of SR came out (over
1.5 years ago!) and don't know what it is, StackRunner is a simple way to
deploy your Rev stacks without having to build standalones; it's a Player
app that will run your stacks simply and easily and without any interface to
get in your way!

To find out more, see the download page at:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Enjoy!
 
Ken Ray
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Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
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Re: ANN: StackRunner 2.0 Now Available

2010-02-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 15/02/2010 10:47, Ken Ray wrote:

After a LOOONNG time, I finally was able to update StackRunner
to use the 4.0 engine. It includes the Data Grid library by default, and the
StackRunner app now sports a new icon! :-)

For those of you who came to Rev after the last version of SR came out (over
1.5 years ago!) and don't know what it is, StackRunner is a simple way to
deploy your Rev stacks without having to build standalones; it's a Player
app that will run your stacks simply and easily and without any interface to
get in your way!

To find out more, see the download page at:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Enjoy!

K
   

Lovely job! and a lovely new icon too.
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Re: ANN: StackRunner 2.0 Now Available

2010-02-15 Thread Alejandro Tejada

Hi Ken,

Many thanks for releasing this new version
of StackRunner. :-)

Now, i could test the engine 4.0 in
different Linux distributions without
installing RevMedia.

Keep up this useful application!

Alejandro
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Re: ANN: StackRunner 2.0 Now Available (Ken Ray)

2010-02-15 Thread Roger Guay
Thank you Ray. I have come to rely on StackRunner for quick demos etc. and very 
much appreciate the convenience.

Thanks and cheers,
Roger Guay


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Re: ANN: StackRunner 2.0 Now Available (Ken Ray)

2010-02-15 Thread Roger Guay
Oops, I meant to thank Ken. I tend to be dyslexic with 2 first names...

 Thank you Ray. I have come to rely on StackRunner for quick demos etc. and 
 very much appreciate the convenience.

Again, thanks and cheers,
Roger
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Re: ANN: StackRunner 2.0 Now Available

2010-02-15 Thread Ken Ray

 Now, i could test the engine 4.0 in
 different Linux distributions without
 installing RevMedia.

Why do you need to install RevMedia? StackRunner works on Linux as well (or
at least it *should*... :-)

 Keep up this useful application!

Thanks!

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Re: ANN: StackRunner 2.0 Now Available

2010-02-15 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Ken Ray wrote:

 After a LOOONNG time, I finally was able to update StackRunner
 to use the 4.0 engine.

Thanks for doing this Ken -- every so often I have a need to send clients a
player engine and StackRunner is perfect for this.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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[ANN] StackRunner 1.9 Is Available

2008-10-09 Thread Ken Ray
Just a quick note to let you know I've updated StackRunner to use the 3.0
engine; version 1.9 is available for all platforms here:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Enjoy!

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[ANN] StackRunner 1.8.1 Released

2008-07-26 Thread Ken Ray
Hey everyone,

Just a quick announcement that a minor upgrade to StackRunner based on a
suggestion by David Bovill (thanks, David!) - to provide support for the
ability to deploy single-icon applications for OS X by providing access to
and storage of stacks inside the application bundle.

The StackRunner web page (
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm)
provides info and an example on how to utilize this new feature.

Enjoy!

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quicktime player in stackrunner and rev player with macbook air

2008-07-02 Thread Randolph Valentine
 Hi, I¹ve got a pretty complex stack that has always worked on both macs
(ppc/intel) and windows computers, which utilizes a player to play mp3
snippets‹ I distribute this to students via Stackrunner (or the Rev player
application). With my new Macbook Air, however, I notice that the quicktime
player doesn¹t seem to work, with either Stackrunner or the Rev Player,
though the player _does_ work when I open the stack in Studio 2.9 on my
MacBook Air. In Stackrunner (and the Player), there is no player visible and
no audio. Is there anything I can do to make this work in Stackrunner (which
I love)? Thanks.

rand valentine


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stackrunner problem solved!

2008-07-02 Thread Randolph Valentine
 sorry to take up bandwith with my inanity! but I  realized that I didn¹t
have the audio properly linking on my macbook air, and that¹s why the audio
wasn¹t working. Long live Stackrunner.

rand valentine
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Re: ANN: StackRunner 1.8 Is Now Available

2008-05-19 Thread Ben Rubinstein

On 17/5/08 22:01, Ken Ray wrote:

Just wanted to let you know that a new release of StackRunner, version 1.8,
has been uploaded to my site. This version has the 2.9.0 engine in it,
includes full support for Linux, and has actually pre-bundled the database
drivers in to make it easier to deploy. I also modified the web page a bit
for clarity (this is in keeping with my talk at RevLive2008 :-).

You can get it here:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm


Thanks so much for this Ken; your continued provision and updating of 
StackRunner is a real boon to the community - certainly to me!


- Ben

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ANN: StackRunner 1.8 Is Now Available

2008-05-17 Thread Ken Ray
Hey all...

Just wanted to let you know that a new release of StackRunner, version 1.8,
has been uploaded to my site. This version has the 2.9.0 engine in it,
includes full support for Linux, and has actually pre-bundled the database
drivers in to make it easier to deploy. I also modified the web page a bit
for clarity (this is in keeping with my talk at RevLive2008 :-).

You can get it here:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Enjoy!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.7 Released

2007-06-02 Thread André.Bisseret

Thanks a lot Ken,
This release of StackRunner solves the problem I encountered with  
Revolution Player, when using  command ... instead of on ...).


Best regards from Grenoble
André

Le 2 juin 07 à 01:04, Ken Ray a écrit :


Just a quick note to let you all know that StackRunner 1.7 has been
released based on the 2.8.1 engine and includes the revBrowser and
revFont externals in the package. For more info or to download, go to:


http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/ 
StackRunner.htm


Enjoy!


Ken Ray
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[ANN] StackRunner 1.7 Released

2007-06-01 Thread Ken Ray
Just a quick note to let you all know that StackRunner 1.7 has been 
released based on the 2.8.1 engine and includes the revBrowser and 
revFont externals in the package. For more info or to download, go to:

  
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Enjoy!


Ken Ray
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Re: Stackrunner and Databases

2007-03-20 Thread Ken Ray
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:18:20 -0500, Len Morgan wrote:

 Hello all!
 
 I'm trying to do two things at once that may not be possible - at 
 least I haven't figured out how yet.
 
 I want to use stackRunner to load and run a stack from a URL.  This 
 stack needs to access a PostreSQL database on the same server as the 
 stack will come from.  The stack works fine in the IDE but when I try 
 to run it from stackRunner with a URL, I get a database error (wrong 
 database type).  My question is where do I need to put the database 
 drivers?  Can I keep them on the same server as the stacks?  

No, the drivers have to be accessible as a file path (AFAIK).

 I want 
 to have the minimum footprint on the client machines and using a 
 shared or network drive is not a viable option.

What platform(s) do you need this for?

Ken Ray
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RE: Stackrunner and Databases

2007-03-20 Thread Len Morgan
Nevermind on this one either.  I had the database drivers in the 
Externals folder, not the Externals/Database Drivers folder (which 
didn't exist).  Now that I've moved things to where they are supposed to 
be, it's all working fine.


len
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RE: Stackrunner and Databases

2007-03-20 Thread Len Morgan

On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:18:20 -0500, Len Morgan wrote:



 Hello all!
 
 I'm trying to do two things at once that may not be possible - at 
 least I haven't figured out how yet.
 
 I want to use stackRunner to load and run a stack from a URL.  This 
 stack needs to access a PostreSQL database on the same server as the 
 stack will come from.  The stack works fine in the IDE but when I try 
 to run it from stackRunner with a URL, I get a database error (wrong 
 database type).  My question is where do I need to put the database 
 drivers?  Can I keep them on the same server as the stacks?  
  



No, the drivers have to be accessible as a file path (AFAIK).



 I want 
 to have the minimum footprint on the client machines and using a 
 shared or network drive is not a viable option.
  



What platform(s) do you need this for?


Ken - thanks for the reply in a message I sent that probably crossed yous, I fixed the 
problem.  I didn't have the Database Drivers folder on the workstation.  
Since those are unlikely to ever change (unlike my stacks) I don't have a problem 
including them with the stackRunner installation.

The platform is Windows by the way and that brought up another question: Do they externals have to 
be truly external because Windows won't look for them in the exe file?  Would it not be possible 
(and I'm not suggesting that you try this) to include zipped dlls in the exe and if they are not 
found at run time, unzip them into whatever folder stackrunner was started in?  If they are already 
there, this step could be skipped.  I know that Tcl starpacks do this but their 
stackRunner.exe equivalent has a virtual file system built in that makes all the included libraries 
and dlls look like they are on another hard drive.  It just happens to be in the same 
file as the exe.

While I've got you, since you seem to know a lot about the internals of Rev, do you know 
if it's possible for an external to do drawing in the Rev window?  The reason I ask is 
because I've been waiting for almost 3 years for Rev to do a table field that is at least 
somewhat useful (i.e., editable at the cell level for color, alignment, font, etc).  
There is a great table package for Tcl that is available as C source, it's cross 
platform, completely open source.  As long as it is allowed to draw in Rev 
windows, it should be a simple matter to get this working as a Rev external.

Just thought I'd ask...

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RE: Stackrunner and Databases

2007-03-20 Thread Ken Ray
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:28:51 -0500, Len Morgan wrote:

 Ken - thanks for the reply in a message I sent that probably crossed 
 yous, I fixed the problem.  I didn't have the Database Drivers 
 folder on the workstation.  Since those are unlikely to ever change 
 (unlike my stacks) I don't have a problem including them with the 
 stackRunner installation.

This is actually a good thing, Len... I am going to be adding the 
Database Drivers folder to the StackRunner installation with a note 
about database access so that others won't have to figure out what you 
had to figure out.
 
 The platform is Windows by the way and that brought up another 
 question: Do they externals have to be truly external because Windows 
 won't look for them in the exe file?  

Yes.

 Would it not be possible (and 
 I'm not suggesting that you try this) to include zipped dlls in the 
 exe and if they are not found at run time, unzip them into whatever 
 folder stackrunner was started in?  If they are already there, this 
 step could be skipped.  I know that Tcl starpacks do this but their 
 stackRunner.exe equivalent has a virtual file system built in that 
 makes all the included libraries and dlls look like they are on 
 another hard drive.  It just happens to be in the same file as the 
 exe.

Hmm... well, I certainly *could* do it, but one of the things about 
StackRunner is that it is to be generic in nature; if I were to bundle 
in the database DLLs with it, it would include a bunch of stuff that 
others not using SR wouldn't need. However perhaps I should make two 
editions - a databse edition with the DLLs in it, and one without... 
I'd have to check with RunRev first though to see if that's OK...
 
 While I've got you, since you seem to know a lot about the internals 
 of Rev, do you know if it's possible for an external to do drawing in 
 the Rev window?  

Yes; in fact the altBrowser DLL does just that - it draws to a region 
on a card.

 The reason I ask is because I've been waiting for 
 almost 3 years for Rev to do a table field that is at least somewhat 
 useful (i.e., editable at the cell level for color, alignment, font, 
 etc).  There is a great table package for Tcl that is available as C 
 source, it's cross platform, completely open source.  As long as it 
 is allowed to draw in Rev windows, it should be a simple matter to 
 get this working as a Rev external.

You might want to check with Chipp Walters about this -  to see if 
there's something special that needs to be done.


Ken Ray
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Stackrunner and Databases

2007-03-19 Thread Len Morgan

Hello all!

I'm trying to do two things at once that may not be possible - at least 
I haven't figured out how yet.


I want to use stackRunner to load and run a stack from a URL.  This 
stack needs to access a PostreSQL database on the same server as the 
stack will come from.  The stack works fine in the IDE but when I try to 
run it from stackRunner with a URL, I get a database error (wrong 
database type).  My question is where do I need to put the database 
drivers?  Can I keep them on the same server as the stacks?  I want to 
have the minimum footprint on the client machines and using a shared 
or network drive is not a viable option.


Any ideas?

Len Morgan
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ANN: StackRunner 1.6 Now Available

2007-02-28 Thread Ken Ray
Just a quick note to let you know that a new version of StackRunner was 
released today. Version 1.6 is built on Revolution 2.8.0 and provides 
Universal Binary, PowerPC Only, Intel Only, and Windows builds. 

For more information, visit the StackRunner web page: 
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Thanks!

(Now, on to finish RevZilla... :-)

Ken Ray
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Re: ANN: StackRunner 1.6 Now Available

2007-02-28 Thread Mark Wieder
Ken-

Wednesday, February 28, 2007, 10:35:55 PM, you wrote:

 Just a quick note to let you know that a new version of StackRunner was
 released today. Version 1.6 is built on Revolution 2.8.0 and provides
 Universal Binary, PowerPC Only, Intel Only, and Windows builds. 

Hooray!

 (Now, on to finish RevZilla... :-)

Otra vez Hooray!

-- 
-Mark Wieder
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Re: StackRunner and MySQL

2007-01-21 Thread Rishi Viner
On Thursday 18 January 2007 06:47, Sieg Lindstrom wrote:
 Thanks for the suggestion, Ken. I tried it as follows. StackRunner is in
 the same folder that contains the folder Externals. Here's the syntax I
 used...

 revSetDatabaseDriverPath /Externals/Database Drivers

 That didn't fix the problem. Any other suggestions?

Not sure if you have the right syntax here. Should it be looking relevant to 
the StackRunner path or the actual stack path (which may be different). 
Anyway, following your example you would want to drop the leading / 
wouldn't you?

try:
revSetDatabaseDriverPath Externals/Database Drivers

Good luck,

Rishi.
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StackRunner and MySQL

2007-01-17 Thread Sieg Lindstrom
Thanks for the suggestion, Ken. I tried it as follows. StackRunner is in the
same folder that contains the folder Externals. Here's the syntax I
used...

revSetDatabaseDriverPath /Externals/Database Drivers

That didn't fix the problem. Any other suggestions?

Many thanks for your advice.

Sieg Lindstrom

Ken Ray wrote:

 
 Have you executed revSetDatabaseDriverPath in your stack that opens
 before it starts making calls to the database? I believe this is done
 automatically by Rev when you launch it, but StackRunner doesn't do
 this, so your stack will need to do it before you start calling on
 the database...

 Sieg Lindstrom wrote:
 Thanks, Ken.
 
 Your suggestion would certainly explain why the database calls sent
 by this
 stack don't work on computers where Revolution is not installed,
 but my
 computer includes the dbmysql.bundle file in the Database Drivers
 folder, and the problem still occurs. Just to make sure I have
 files in the
 right places, I have StackRunner in the folder that contains the 2.7.4
 installation. The Database Drivers is nested in that same folder,
 and the
 stack I'm trying to run is nested in a folder that's also in the
 main 2.7.4
 installation folder. Should that work?


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StackRunner and MySQL

2007-01-16 Thread Sieg Lindstrom
Thanks, Ken.

Your suggestion would certainly explain why the database calls sent by this
stack don't work on computers where Revolution is not installed, but my
computer includes the dbmysql.bundle file in the Database Drivers
folder, and the problem still occurs. Just to make sure I have files in the
right places, I have StackRunner in the folder that contains the 2.7.4
installation. The Database Drivers is nested in that same folder, and the
stack I'm trying to run is nested in a folder that's also in the main 2.7.4
installation folder. Should that work?

Many thanks for your help.

Sieg Lindstrom


Ken Ray wrote:

 Well, StackRunner 1.5 was built using the 2.7.2 engine (see the
 bottom of the page at http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/
 downloads/StackRunner.htm), so it's possible that the mySQL commands
 were changed between 2.7.2 and 2.7.4.
 
 However it's more likely that you don't have the mysQL database
 drivers in the right place... StackRunner has the revdb external in
 it so you can make database calls, but it is not bundled with all the
 database drivers. These drivers should be in the Database Drivers
 folder of your 2.7.4 installation and include something called
 dbmysql.bundle which you'll need to connect to in order to use
 mysQL from StackRunner.


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Re: StackRunner and MySQL

2007-01-16 Thread Ken Ray


On Jan 16, 2007, at 12:18 PM, Sieg Lindstrom wrote:


Thanks, Ken.

Your suggestion would certainly explain why the database calls sent  
by this
stack don't work on computers where Revolution is not installed,  
but my

computer includes the dbmysql.bundle file in the Database Drivers
folder, and the problem still occurs. Just to make sure I have  
files in the

right places, I have StackRunner in the folder that contains the 2.7.4
installation. The Database Drivers is nested in that same folder,  
and the
stack I'm trying to run is nested in a folder that's also in the  
main 2.7.4

installation folder. Should that work?


Have you executed revSetDatabaseDriverPath in your stack that opens  
before it starts making calls to the database? I believe this is done  
automatically by Rev when you launch it, but StackRunner doesn't do  
this, so your stack will need to do it before you start calling on  
the database...



Ken Ray
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StackRunner and MySQL

2007-01-15 Thread Sieg Lindstrom
I am trying to use StackRunner 1.5 to run a stack created with Revolution
2.7.4. (on a PPC Mac). I use this stack to manage data in a MySQL database.
The stack runs fine when opened with Revolution, but when I open with
StackRunner none of the MySQL queries work and instead I get error messages;
all other scripts in the stack seem to run OK in StackRunner.

Can this be solved? How?

Thanks for any suggestions!

Sieg Lindstrom


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Re: StackRunner and MySQL

2007-01-15 Thread Ken Ray


On Jan 15, 2007, at 4:38 PM, Sieg Lindstrom wrote:

I am trying to use StackRunner 1.5 to run a stack created with  
Revolution
2.7.4. (on a PPC Mac). I use this stack to manage data in a MySQL  
database.

The stack runs fine when opened with Revolution, but when I open with
StackRunner none of the MySQL queries work and instead I get error  
messages;

all other scripts in the stack seem to run OK in StackRunner.


Well, StackRunner 1.5 was built using the 2.7.2 engine (see the  
bottom of the page at http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/ 
downloads/StackRunner.htm), so it's possible that the mySQL commands  
were changed between 2.7.2 and 2.7.4.


However it's more likely that you don't have the mysQL database  
drivers in the right place... StackRunner has the revdb external in  
it so you can make database calls, but it is not bundled with all the  
database drivers. These drivers should be in the Database Drivers  
folder of your 2.7.4 installation and include something called  
dbmysql.bundle which you'll need to connect to in order to use  
mysQL from StackRunner.


HTH,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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runrev player, stackrunner in windows xp home

2006-09-10 Thread rand valentine
 Hi. Are there any documented limitations of the Revolution Player or
StackRunner not running in certain versions of Windows? I have a student who
is running Windows XP Home on a Sony Vaio, and who tells me he cannot run my
stacks through either the player or stackrunner -- the problem involves
playing audiofiles (mp3's) that are saved in a separate folder, and opening
pdf's that are to be launched from within my stack. Should this work, or
is it an os-level problem? The stacks I've built work just fine with
StackRunner on my Mac laptop running latest Tiger, as well as my Dell
Inspiron 5100 laptop running windows xp pro sp 2.

rand valentine


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Re: runrev player, stackrunner in windows xp home

2006-09-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, rand valentine wrote:

  Hi. Are there any documented limitations of the Revolution Player or
 StackRunner not running in certain versions of Windows? I have a student who
 is running Windows XP Home on a Sony Vaio, and who tells me he cannot run my
 stacks through either the player or stackrunner -- the problem involves
 playing audiofiles (mp3's) that are saved in a separate folder, and opening
 pdf's that are to be launched from within my stack.

It's possible you may be running into the path-format/long-file-name issue.
See this thread for 2 possible workarounds:

  http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-July/061722.html

Supposedly 2.7.3 addresses these problems but I haven't tested this myself.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia  Design
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Protecting a StackRunner (or Player) stack

2006-09-06 Thread rand valentine
 Hi, all. I've been making some really fun language learning/teaching
materials using Rev Studio 2.7.2 on my Mac running OS 10.4.7. I greatly
prefer to distribute my stuff (in other words, make it available to
students) by just using StackRunner, rather than making standalones, which
always seems to entail untold headaches. But since my stacks are
preliminary, I want to write an expiration date into them, e.g., one obvious
way to do this is check the date in a preopenstack handler, and if it's past
a certain date, just cause the stack to quit. But is there any way to
protect that preopenstack from prying eyes? Note that the students interact
with the stacks _a lot_, so I need the stacks to be totally editable in
the sense of being able to add data to text fields, click on buttons and
change settings, etc. So is there any easy way to protect a script? Thanks.

rand valentine


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Re: Protecting a StackRunner (or Player) stack

2006-09-06 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Rand,


 Hi, all. I've been making some really fun language learning/teaching
materials using Rev Studio 2.7.2 on my Mac running OS 10.4.7. I  
greatly

prefer to distribute my stuff (in other words, make it available to
students) by just using StackRunner, rather than making  
standalones, which

always seems to entail untold headaches. But since my stacks are
preliminary, I want to write an expiration date into them, e.g.,  
one obvious
way to do this is check the date in a preopenstack handler, and if  
it's past

a certain date, just cause the stack to quit. But is there any way to
protect that preopenstack from prying eyes? Note that the students  
interact
with the stacks _a lot_, so I need the stacks to be totally  
editable in
the sense of being able to add data to text fields, click on  
buttons and
change settings, etc. So is there any easy way to protect a script?  
Thanks.


maybe a simple password will do the trick? :-)

This way noone can see/edit the scripts.


rand valentine


Regards

Klaus Major
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revolution player vs. stackrunner launching documents

2006-08-27 Thread rand valentine
 Hi, dear Revolution cognoscenti, I need your help with some development I'm
doing. I'm an instructor, and have been using Revolution Studio (2.7.2) on a
Mac with the latest OS to develop some language learning materials that I
will distribute to students. The students will be using both windows and
macs. In the past, I've been very successful in using StackRunner to
distribute things, and it's worked better than the Revolution Player in the
past -- meaning that more people were able to run my stacks with StackRunner
than the Rev Player, perhaps because SR is cleaner, as it says on the Sons
of Thunder webpage. Some people seem to have _ancient_ Windows computers
that choke on nearly everything. But now I've run into a small problem --
StackRunner doesn't seem to be able to implement the launch document
command (I assume some library isn't available), and I want to use that to
provide students with access to millions of pdfs. I notice that the Player
_does_ allow use of launch document. So here's my question:

1. What's the status of the Rev Player -- is it robust, and is it likely the
bulk of your typical student community of Windows users will be able to use
it to play my stacks (the only real demand is that they use lots of sound,
but I've no problem with sounds testing with StackRunner on Windows?

2. Is there some other way to launch documents that _is_ likely implemented
in StackRunner?

 Thanks so much for any comments.

rand valentine


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Re: revolution player vs. stackrunner launching documents

2006-08-27 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/27/06 11:46 AM, rand valentine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But now I've run into a small problem --
 StackRunner doesn't seem to be able to implement the launch document
 command (I assume some library isn't available)

The problem, Rand, is that the 2.7 version of StackRunner was built with
the 2.7.0 engine, and the launch document feature didn't arrive until
2.7.1. I'll rebuild a new version with 2.7.3 and upload it to the STS web
site.

Thanks for the prod in the back... ;-)


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Re: revolution player vs. stackrunner launching documents

2006-08-27 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/27/06 2:47 PM, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The problem, Rand, is that the 2.7 version of StackRunner was built with
 the 2.7.0 engine, and the launch document feature didn't arrive until
 2.7.1. I'll rebuild a new version with 2.7.3 and upload it to the STS web
 site.

Uh... It may be a day or so... Rev's no cooperating and the 2.7.3 version of
SR doesn't run properly; I'll update you when it's ready...

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ANN: StackRunner 1.5 Now Available

2006-08-27 Thread Ken Ray
Just a quick note to let you all know that StackRunner has been updated to
version 1.5 using the Rev 2.7.2 engine (Rev 2.7.3 could not be used because
there is a significant bug in AppleEvents that prevents SR from operating).
There are now Universal Binary, PowerPC and Intel Only builds in addition to
the Windows build.

Those needing OS 9 or Linux builds can still download StackRunner 1.3.

You can download it here:

  http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

A final reminder: StackRunner is to be used with Revolution Studio or
Enterprise in order to simplify deployment of stacks. If you are using
Revolution Media or Dreamcard, you need to use the Revolution Player (in
fact, StackRunner cannot open stacks created in Revolution Media at all).

Thanks!

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[ANN] StackRunner 1.4 Released

2006-04-08 Thread Ken Ray
Just a note to let you all know that I released a new version of StackRunner
today. Version 1.4 provides support for the new Revolution 2.7 file format
and works on Mac OS X and Windows only (OS 9 and Linux to come when those
engines have been made available.

For more information, visit the StackRunner web page:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Enjoy!


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[ANN] StackRunner 1.3 Released

2006-01-16 Thread Ken Ray
An update to StackRunner was released today; the new version allows for
opening files directly from the Internet by changing the configuration
document's open property to point to a URL instead of a path on disk. If the
stack can't be opened (for example, if an incorrect URL is provided), the
default ask file dialog box will be displayed.

Enjoy!

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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.3 Released

2006-01-16 Thread Ken Ray
On 1/16/06 12:59 PM, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 An update to StackRunner was released today; the new version allows for
 opening files directly from the Internet by changing the configuration
 document's open property to point to a URL instead of a path on disk. If the
 stack can't be opened (for example, if an incorrect URL is provided), the
 default ask file dialog box will be displayed.

Whoops! For got the URL:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm


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[ANN] StackRunner 1.1 Available - Now Supports Linux!

2005-12-24 Thread Ken Ray
Hey everyone, a quick pre-Christmas upload to make everyone's holidays a bit
brighter!

(OK, maybe not grin, but I wanted to get this off my plate before the end
of the year... :-)

In any event, I'm pleased to announce the availability of StackRunner 1.1,
which includes some bug fixes, a new Linux version, and RIP (Revolution
Interoperability Project) compliancy (if you don't know what that is, visit
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop for more details).

You can view the changes and download your copy at:

  http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Merry/Happy Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone!

Ken Ray
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StackRunner ?

2005-11-21 Thread Mathewson
Charles Hartman mentions something called 'StackRunner'

sorry, obviously missed this

I know about Dreamcard Player

but not 'StackRunner'

Please elucidate

sincerely, Richmond
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Re: StackRunner ?

2005-11-21 Thread Ken Ray
On 11/21/05 12:29 PM, Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Charles Hartman mentions something called 'StackRunner'
 
 sorry, obviously missed this
 
 I know about Dreamcard Player
 
 but not 'StackRunner'
 
 Please elucidate

StackRunner is a Dreamcard Player replacement - you can find more about it
here:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

HTH,

Ken Ray
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[ANN] StackRunner 1.0.3 available

2005-10-22 Thread Ken Ray
Just a quick note to let you all know that version 1.0.3 of StackRunner has
been uploaded; this version fixes a bug where the 'closeStack' message
wasn't being sent to the last closing stack.

If this is the first time you've heard of StackRunner, StackRunner is a
simple player application that is similar to the DreamCard Player in that
it will play your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much simpler
and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs cleaner. It's
free, so you can distribute it with any kind of stack.

You can get more information and download it here:

  http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Enjoy!

Ken Ray
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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0.3 available

2005-10-22 Thread Jim Hurley


Just a quick note to let you all know that version 1.0.3 of StackRunner has
been uploaded; this version fixes a bug where the 'closeStack' message
wasn't being sent to the last closing stack.

If this is the first time you've heard of StackRunner, StackRunner is a
simple player application that is similar to the DreamCard Player in that
it will play your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much simpler
and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs cleaner. It's
free, so you can distribute it with any kind of stack.

You can get more information and download it here:

  http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Enjoy!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Ken,

Just a note to say how useful I found StackRunner recently. I was 
working on an application for a friend of mine. There was a lot of 
back and forth. But I only needed to update the file; no need to send 
a giant standalone.


Thank you so much for this.

Jim
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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0.2

2005-09-09 Thread Jim Hurley


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Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 14:24:06 -0500
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Subject: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0.2
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Based on input and suggestions, this new version of StackRunner allows you
to configure how you want SR to handle things when the last stack it opened
as been closed - you can quit it, or you can bring up a new Please select a
stack answer file dialog. This can be part of the config.srn file, or you
you let it take its default behavior.

For more info, please see:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Have fun!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Ken,

Thanks for the Runner. I love the simplicity.

I have had no occasion to use DreamCard so I'm not familiar with its 
limitations. (I can see occasions when I would prefer DreamCard--or 
StackRunner--to building an app. It would be most helpful working 
with a user during the development stages. Updates would consist only 
of the new stack without the need to continually carry the baggage of 
the full application.)


But help me out a bit. StackRunner comes in at 3.6 megs, and 
DreamCard at 2.1 megs.


What are the differences and when would one choose StackRunner and 
when DreamCard?


Thanks again for all you do for the Rev community.

Jim
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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0.2

2005-09-09 Thread Marielle Lange

Hi Jim,

I only triedthe stackrunner today. The stack runner is a great  
addition. Two things I spotted:


(1) The downloads size are in reality 4.9 for the dreamcard player  
and 1.3 for the stackrunner. The dreamcard player application is  
accompanied by a components directory which is 5.7 MB big.


(2) The stack runner will automatically start any application called  
main.rev in the same directory. This means that you can very easily  
distribute your stack to others, without having to explain anything.  
Just rename the stackrunner app to your program name. For instance,  
run_this.app. Then instruct any user to click twice on this file and  
the job is done. That's a lot lot easier to demo anything, distribute  
to students, or attract new users.


Many thanks for this, Ken! A great addition for the education commmunity
Marielle

PS. Jim, your last shapeline stack is really nice, really nice.


http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/ 
StackRunner.htm


Ken,

Thanks for the Runner. I love the simplicity.

I have had no occasion to use DreamCard so I'm not familiar with its
limitations. (I can see occasions when I would prefer DreamCard--or
StackRunner--to building an app. It would be most helpful working
with a user during the development stages. Updates would consist only
of the new stack without the need to continually carry the baggage of
the full application.)

But help me out a bit. StackRunner comes in at 3.6 megs, and
DreamCard at 2.1 megs.

What are the differences and when would one choose StackRunner and
when DreamCard?

Thanks again for all you do for the Rev community.

Jim


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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0.2

2005-09-09 Thread Ken Ray
On 9/9/05 9:01 AM, Jim Hurley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the Runner. I love the simplicity.

My pleasure!

 What are the differences and when would one choose StackRunner and
 when DreamCard?

Here's my quick list of the differences:

What DreamCard Player Has That StackRunner Doesn't Have:
-
- Provides a secure mode to run stacks (default)
- Contains and opens RevOnline Viewer; provides access to RO channels
- Automatically checks for updates
- Shows splash screen on launch

What SR has that DCP Doesn't Have:
-
- Doesn't present a user interface (other than a simple answer file
dialog)
- Allows you to run a stack automatically on launch
- Gives you the ability to provide a custom answer file prompt if your
stack can't be found
- Can automatically quit (or re-ask for a new stack) when the last stack
closes
- The 'answer file' dialog is displayed as a dialog on OS X so that a
title prompt can be displayed (DCP uses a sheet, so it may not be clear what
it's asking you to open)
- Provides the 'answer file' dialog automatically if it isn't set to run
a stack automatically (in DCP you have to click on a small button with a
folder on it that has no label or tooltip)

In general I would use SR to distribute known stacks to a specific known
group of people, like a class or a client; the intention of SR is to get
close to the true application experience. I would use DCP when you are
distributing stacks via RevOnline for others to use, or when you need to
have secure mode.
 
 Thanks again for all you do for the Rev community.

No problem!

Ken Ray
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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0.2

2005-09-09 Thread Ken Ray
On 9/9/05 9:40 AM, Marielle Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (1) The downloads size are in reality 4.9 for the dreamcard player
 and 1.3 for the stackrunner. The dreamcard player application is
 accompanied by a components directory which is 5.7 MB big.

Yes; in StackRunner, the supported common libraries, icons, cursors, etc.
are all built into the standalone, and since it doesn't have support for
RevOnline, etc., so it is smaller than DCP (3.6 MB for SR vs. 9.5 MB for DCP
- both under OS X).

 (2) The stack runner will automatically start any application called
 main.rev in the same directory. This means that you can very easily
 distribute your stack to others, without having to explain anything.
 Just rename the stackrunner app to your program name. For instance,
 run_this.app. Then instruct any user to click twice on this file and
 the job is done. That's a lot lot easier to demo anything, distribute
 to students, or attract new users.

That's true! One thing to keep in mind, though, and that is on OS X if you
rename the app, it doesn't rename that application menu title when the
program launches, so if you called it Click Me.app, when they run it, the
application menu will still read StackRunner (although a minor adjustment
to the .plist file inside the bundle will fix this as well).
 
 Many thanks for this, Ken! A great addition for the education commmunity

Glad I could do it!


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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0.2

2005-09-09 Thread Ken Ray
On 9/9/05 10:04 AM, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What DreamCard Player Has That StackRunner Doesn't Have:
 -
 - Provides a secure mode to run stacks (default)
 - Contains and opens RevOnline Viewer; provides access to RO channels
 - Automatically checks for updates
 - Shows splash screen on launch

I forgot to add one other thing that DCP has that SR doesn't have at the
moment: Linux support.

Ken Ray
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[ANN] StackRunner 1.0.2

2005-09-08 Thread Ken Ray
Based on input and suggestions, this new version of StackRunner allows you
to configure how you want SR to handle things when the last stack it opened
as been closed - you can quit it, or you can bring up a new Please select a
stack answer file dialog. This can be part of the config.srn file, or you
you let it take its default behavior.

For more info, please see:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Have fun!

Ken Ray
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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-07 Thread Dom
Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded a standalone
 application called StackRunner which is similar to the DreamCard Player in
 that it will play your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much
 simpler and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs
 cleaner.

Note that the StackRunner name is already used by another program (not
a recent one, though)

I googled to find *your* program, and found this one:

What is StackRunner!? StackRunner from Symmetry Software claims to let
you install an engine into a HyperCard stack, making it into a Run-time
stack. This deserves a closer look to determine its true usefulness.

http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.07/07.10/StackRunner/
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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-07 Thread Ken Ray
On 9/7/05 2:20 PM, Dom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded a standalone
 application called StackRunner which is similar to the DreamCard Player in
 that it will play your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much
 simpler and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs
 cleaner.
 
 Note that the StackRunner name is already used by another program (not
 a recent one, though)
 
 I googled to find *your* program, and found this one:
 
 What is StackRunner!? StackRunner from Symmetry Software claims to let
 you install an engine into a HyperCard stack, making it into a Run-time
 stack. This deserves a closer look to determine its true usefulness.
 
 http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.07/07.10/StackRunner/

Wow... honestly I didn't do a search because it's an internal tool to me,
but it's good to know anyway...

Ken Ray
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[ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Ken Ray
Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded a standalone
application called StackRunner which is similar to the DreamCard Player in
that it will play your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much
simpler and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs
cleaner.

When it is launched, it will check to see if there is a stack called
main.rev in the same directory; if there is, it will open it
automatically. Otherwise it will check for a file called config.srn in the
same directory as the standalone and check inside there for information on
what stack to run. Finally, if neither of these can be found, a simple
'answer file' dialog box will be displayed with a generic prompt.

StackRunner includes all Rev icons, cursors and libraries, so it should be
able to run just about anything. OS 9, OS X and Windows versions are
available.

You can check it out (along with a full description) at:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm

Enjoy!


Ken Ray
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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Howard Bornstein
On 9/6/05, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded a standalone
 application called StackRunner which is similar to the DreamCard Player in
 that it will play your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much
 simpler and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs
 cleaner.


Very nice. One thing you might consider is if a user plays a stack
fron the answer file dialog (i.e. not using main.rev or a config
file), after the stack closes, put up the answer file dialog again, so
the user can choose a different stack to run. Right now, if you open a
stack this way and then close it, StackRunner stays open but you can't
do anything in it. if you want to open another stack, you have to quit
SR and then restart it.

Otherwise, very clean and elegant! :-)

-- 
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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Charles Hartman


On Sep 6, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:


Very nice. One thing you might consider is if a user plays a stack



-- but if  *only* if!


fron the answer file dialog (i.e. not using main.rev or a config
file), after the stack closes, put up the answer file dialog again, so
the user can choose a different stack to run. Right now, if you open a
stack this way and then close it, StackRunner stays open but you can't
do anything in it. if you want to open another stack, you have to quit
SR and then restart it.

Otherwise, very clean and elegant! :-)


I agree-- it's a great boon for those of us using Dreamcard   
publicizing stacks (not standalones).


Charles Hartman

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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Stephen Barncard

Ken,
I love this thing - especially in OSX, as one should be able to put 
the config file and the stack inside the MacOS folder in the package, 
where the executable for stackrunner and the included externals live. 
However, I can't seem to find the magic incantation to have 
Stackrunner locate a file inside the package..


I've used 'ask file' to get the path but it doesn't like it..I always 
get the answer dialog.


what's missing, quotes?

my stack is inside same folder (MacOS) where the Stackrunner executable lives.

this doesn't work:

open=CDRToLabel.rev
dialogtext=Please locate 'CDRToLabel.rev':

this doesn't work either:
open=/Volumes/SQB_128-1/ 
STACKRUNNER/StackRunner.app/Contents/MacOS/CDRToLabel.rev

dialogtext=Please locate 'CDRToLabel.rev':

nor this:
open=/STACKRUNNER/StackRunner.app/Contents/MacOS/CDRToLabel.rev
dialogtext=Please locate 'CDRToLabel.rev':



Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded a standalone
application called StackRunner which is similar to the DreamCard Player in
that it will play your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much
simpler and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs
cleaner.


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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0 - 1.0.1 Available

2005-09-06 Thread Ken Ray
On 9/6/05 4:14 PM, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Ken,
 I love this thing - especially in OSX, as one should be able to put
 the config file and the stack inside the MacOS folder in the package,
 where the executable for stackrunner and the included externals live.
 However, I can't seem to find the magic incantation to have
 Stackrunner locate a file inside the package..

Stephen, you found a bug, which I just fixed and reposted (apps should now
read 1.0.1 in the Get Info/Properties windows). BTW: I just do a check for
verfication on the stack and then open it, so you can also use relative
paths from the executable folder as well. So you can also say:

  open=StackRunner.app/Contents/MacOS/CDRToLabel.rev

and it will work properly.

Enjoy!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Chipp Walters

Hey Ken, great stuff.

I use a similar 'launcer app' to debug. One thing I noticed with 
StackRunner is that it stays open in memory even though all the windows 
(stacks) are closed (XP). This is a potential problem, as it opens up 
successive instances of itself each time it's launched. Thus the user 
can 'think' they've quit the stack (and StackRunner), but it's still in 
memory.


I'm not exactly sure how to fix this best. I suppose having a 'send 
message' to check the openStacks() every minute or so would do it. In my 
case, I keep the orig stack wd open (very small) and it kills the app 
when it's closed. I understand this isn't a good way for StackRunner to 
work, as you want to get completely out of the way.


Anyway, just my 2 cents worth.

Ken Ray wrote:

Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded a standalone
application called StackRunner which is similar to the DreamCard Player in
that it will play your MetaCard or Revolution stacks, but it is much
simpler and doesn't present any user-interface elements so it runs
cleaner.


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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Chipp Walters

Hmmm.

Maybe a better solution is to use a frontscript. Check for the 
closeStack message and count the number of openstacks. If it's only 1 
then quit, else pass closeStack.


-Chipp

Chipp Walters wrote:

I'm not exactly sure how to fix this best. I suppose having a 'send 
message' to check the openStacks() every minute or so would do it. In my 
case, I keep the orig stack wd open (very small) and it kills the app 
when it's closed. I understand this isn't a good way for StackRunner to 
work, as you want to get completely out of the way.


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Re: [ANN] StackRunner 1.0

2005-09-06 Thread Ken Ray
On 9/6/05 7:16 PM, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hmmm.
 
 Maybe a better solution is to use a frontscript. Check for the
 closeStack message and count the number of openstacks. If it's only 1
 then quit, else pass closeStack.

Good idea, Chipp... I'll put it into the next version!

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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