Re: Getting the counters with the highest values

2014-11-25 Thread Eric Stevens
 We have too many documents per day to materialize in memory, so querying
per day and aggregating the results isn’t really possible.

You don't really need to, that's part of the point.  You can paginate
across a partition with most client drivers, and materializing this view is
just copying data from one table to another with a different layout.  So
you end up just having to read then write a few thousand records at a shot.

doc_id as the partitioning key and day as the clustering key means that you
have to iterate over documents from some outside knowledge (a definitive
source on what the set of doc_id's is), and reading so many separate
partitions (one per doc_id) will produce memory pressure in your cluster.
Compared against ((day), doc_id) where you can SELECT * WHERE day=?.  Your
approach would give you a very nice time series view of views per document
over time, which itself might be useful elsewhere in your application.

That said, there are physical and practical limits on the number of columns
you can have in a partition (2 billion physical, and depending on the data
sometimes just on the order of a few hundred thousand practical without
causing some troubles in areas such as compaction, repair, and bootstrap).

However, I still suspect you may benefit by keying the counters table
primarily by date, but maybe add another key rotator in there, like ((day,
subpartition), doc_id).  Compute your sub partition deterministically but
in an evenly distributed manner from your doc_id (eg, doc_id mod 16, or
md5(doc_id).take(2), etc., depending on what the data type is for your
doc_id).

This will split your single logical partition up across n physical
partitions, opens you up to parallel processing of those partitions
(materializing can get a lot faster as you can very easily have a single
worker working on each physical partition without reduced hotspotting).
Each worker can be assigned a day and subpartition and work exclusively on
that data set for materialization (or a single worker can iterate the
subpartitions for the same effect).

Now to make a too-long email even longer, if you're approaching practical
limits on using doc_id as part of a clustering key, your materialized view
is going to have similar issues.  So you may have to either only
materialize documents with a view count over a certain threshold, or engage
in a similar sub partitioning scheme there.

On Mon Nov 24 2014 at 10:33:50 AM Robert Wille rwi...@fold3.com wrote:

  We do get a large number of documents getting counts each day, which is
 why I’m thinking the running totals table be ((doc_id), day) rather than
 ((day), doc_id). We have too many documents per day to materialize in
 memory, so querying per day and aggregating the results isn’t really
 possible.

  I’m planning on bucketing the materialized ordering because we get
 enough unique document views per day that the rows will be quite large. Not
 so large as to be unmanageable, but pushing the limits. If we were so lucky
 as to get a significant increase in traffic, I might start having issues. I
 didn’t include bucketing in my post because I didn’t want to complicate my
 question. I hadn’t considered that I could bucket by hour and then use a
 local midnight instead of a global midnight. Interesting idea.

  Thanks for your response.

  Robert

  On Nov 24, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Eric Stevens migh...@gmail.com wrote:

 You're right that there's no way to use the counter data type to
 materialize a view ordered by the counter.  Computing this post hoc is
 the way to go if your needs allow for it (if not, something like
 Summingbird or vanilla Storm may be necessary).

  I might suggest that you make your primary key for your running totals
 by day table be ((day), doc_id) because it will make it easy to compute the
 materialized ordered view (SELECT doc_id, count FROM running_totals WHERE
 day=?) unless you expect to have a really large number of documents getting
 counts each day.

  For your materialized ordering, I'd suggest a primary key of ((day),
 count) as then for a given day you'll be able to select top by count
 (SELECT count, doc_id FROM doc_counts WHERE day=? ORDER BY count DESC).

  One more thing to consider if your users are not all in a single
 timezone is having your time bucket be hour instead of day so that you can
 answer by day goal posted by local midnight (except the handful of
 locations that use half hour timezone offsets) instead of a single global
 midnight.  You can then either include either just each hour in each row
 (and aggregate at read time), or you can make each row a rolling 24 hours
 (aggregating at write time), depending on which use case fits your needs
 better.

 On Sun Nov 23 2014 at 8:42:11 AM Robert Wille rwi...@fold3.com wrote:

 I’m working on moving a bunch of counters out of our relational database
 to Cassandra. For the most part, Cassandra is a very nice fit, except for
 one feature on our website. We manage a time series of 

Re: Getting the counters with the highest values

2014-11-24 Thread Eric Stevens
You're right that there's no way to use the counter data type to
materialize a view ordered by the counter.  Computing this post hoc is the
way to go if your needs allow for it (if not, something like Summingbird or
vanilla Storm may be necessary).

I might suggest that you make your primary key for your running totals by
day table be ((day), doc_id) because it will make it easy to compute the
materialized ordered view (SELECT doc_id, count FROM running_totals WHERE
day=?) unless you expect to have a really large number of documents getting
counts each day.

For your materialized ordering, I'd suggest a primary key of ((day), count)
as then for a given day you'll be able to select top by count (SELECT
count, doc_id FROM doc_counts WHERE day=? ORDER BY count DESC).

One more thing to consider if your users are not all in a single timezone
is having your time bucket be hour instead of day so that you can answer by
day goal posted by local midnight (except the handful of locations that use
half hour timezone offsets) instead of a single global midnight.  You can
then either include either just each hour in each row (and aggregate at
read time), or you can make each row a rolling 24 hours (aggregating at
write time), depending on which use case fits your needs better.

On Sun Nov 23 2014 at 8:42:11 AM Robert Wille rwi...@fold3.com wrote:

 I’m working on moving a bunch of counters out of our relational database
 to Cassandra. For the most part, Cassandra is a very nice fit, except for
 one feature on our website. We manage a time series of view counts for each
 document, and display a list of the most popular documents in the last
 seven days. This seems like a pretty strong anti-pattern for Cassandra, but
 also seems like something a lot of people would want to do. If you’re
 keeping counters, its pretty likely that you’d want to know which ones have
 the highest counts.

 Here’s what I came up with to implement this feature. Create a counter
 table with primary key (doc_id, day) and a single counter. Whenever a
 document is viewed, increment the counter for the document for today and
 the previous six days. Sometime after midnight each day, compile the
 counters into a table with primary key (day, count, doc_id) and no
 additional columns. For each partition in the counter table, I would sum up
 the counters, delete any counters that are over a week old, and put the sum
 into the second table with day = today. When I query the table, i would ask
 for data where day = yesterday. During the compilation process, I would
 delete old partitions. In theory I’d only need two partitions. One that is
 being built, and one for querying.

 I’d be interested to hear critiques on this strategy, as well as hearing
 how other people have implemented a most-popular feature using Cassandra
 counters.

 Robert




Re: Getting the counters with the highest values

2014-11-24 Thread Robert Wille
We do get a large number of documents getting counts each day, which is why I’m 
thinking the running totals table be ((doc_id), day) rather than ((day), 
doc_id). We have too many documents per day to materialize in memory, so 
querying per day and aggregating the results isn’t really possible.

I’m planning on bucketing the materialized ordering because we get enough 
unique document views per day that the rows will be quite large. Not so large 
as to be unmanageable, but pushing the limits. If we were so lucky as to get a 
significant increase in traffic, I might start having issues. I didn’t include 
bucketing in my post because I didn’t want to complicate my question. I hadn’t 
considered that I could bucket by hour and then use a local midnight instead of 
a global midnight. Interesting idea.

Thanks for your response.

Robert

On Nov 24, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Eric Stevens 
migh...@gmail.commailto:migh...@gmail.com wrote:

You're right that there's no way to use the counter data type to materialize a 
view ordered by the counter.  Computing this post hoc is the way to go if your 
needs allow for it (if not, something like Summingbird or vanilla Storm may be 
necessary).

I might suggest that you make your primary key for your running totals by day 
table be ((day), doc_id) because it will make it easy to compute the 
materialized ordered view (SELECT doc_id, count FROM running_totals WHERE 
day=?) unless you expect to have a really large number of documents getting 
counts each day.

For your materialized ordering, I'd suggest a primary key of ((day), count) as 
then for a given day you'll be able to select top by count (SELECT count, 
doc_id FROM doc_counts WHERE day=? ORDER BY count DESC).

One more thing to consider if your users are not all in a single timezone is 
having your time bucket be hour instead of day so that you can answer by day 
goal posted by local midnight (except the handful of locations that use half 
hour timezone offsets) instead of a single global midnight.  You can then 
either include either just each hour in each row (and aggregate at read time), 
or you can make each row a rolling 24 hours (aggregating at write time), 
depending on which use case fits your needs better.

On Sun Nov 23 2014 at 8:42:11 AM Robert Wille 
rwi...@fold3.commailto:rwi...@fold3.com wrote:
I’m working on moving a bunch of counters out of our relational database to 
Cassandra. For the most part, Cassandra is a very nice fit, except for one 
feature on our website. We manage a time series of view counts for each 
document, and display a list of the most popular documents in the last seven 
days. This seems like a pretty strong anti-pattern for Cassandra, but also 
seems like something a lot of people would want to do. If you’re keeping 
counters, its pretty likely that you’d want to know which ones have the highest 
counts.

Here’s what I came up with to implement this feature. Create a counter table 
with primary key (doc_id, day) and a single counter. Whenever a document is 
viewed, increment the counter for the document for today and the previous six 
days. Sometime after midnight each day, compile the counters into a table with 
primary key (day, count, doc_id) and no additional columns. For each partition 
in the counter table, I would sum up the counters, delete any counters that are 
over a week old, and put the sum into the second table with day = today. When I 
query the table, i would ask for data where day = yesterday. During the 
compilation process, I would delete old partitions. In theory I’d only need two 
partitions. One that is being built, and one for querying.

I’d be interested to hear critiques on this strategy, as well as hearing how 
other people have implemented a most-popular feature using Cassandra counters.

Robert




Getting the counters with the highest values

2014-11-23 Thread Robert Wille
I’m working on moving a bunch of counters out of our relational database to 
Cassandra. For the most part, Cassandra is a very nice fit, except for one 
feature on our website. We manage a time series of view counts for each 
document, and display a list of the most popular documents in the last seven 
days. This seems like a pretty strong anti-pattern for Cassandra, but also 
seems like something a lot of people would want to do. If you’re keeping 
counters, its pretty likely that you’d want to know which ones have the highest 
counts. 

Here’s what I came up with to implement this feature. Create a counter table 
with primary key (doc_id, day) and a single counter. Whenever a document is 
viewed, increment the counter for the document for today and the previous six 
days. Sometime after midnight each day, compile the counters into a table with 
primary key (day, count, doc_id) and no additional columns. For each partition 
in the counter table, I would sum up the counters, delete any counters that are 
over a week old, and put the sum into the second table with day = today. When I 
query the table, i would ask for data where day = yesterday. During the 
compilation process, I would delete old partitions. In theory I’d only need two 
partitions. One that is being built, and one for querying.

I’d be interested to hear critiques on this strategy, as well as hearing how 
other people have implemented a most-popular feature using Cassandra counters.

Robert