Re: Looking for a good Ruby client
Hi Timmy, I see what you mean. No, I don't have any plans to do that -- in fact, it seems like it would be exceedingly difficult, as CQL2 doesn't support composite column comparators, which as I understand it underlie the multi-primary-key structures in CQL3. Might be possible to hand-roll something into a blob but seems like a bit of a pain! Mat On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Timmy Turner timm.t...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mat! I thought you were going to expose the internals of CQL3 features like (wide rows with) complex keys and collections to CQL2 clients (which is something that should generally be possible, if Datastax' blog posts are accurate, i.e. an actual description of how things were implemented and not just a conceptual one). I'm still negotiating with my project lead on what features will ultimately be implemented, so I'm not sure whether CQL2/3 interoperability will actually make it into the final 'product' .. but it isn't very high up on the priority list, so it will most likely be implemented towards the end, and thus I guess it'll also kind of depend on how much CQL2 support will be provided by Cassandra itself when the time comes. 2012/11/20 Mat Brown m...@brewster.com Hi Timmy, I haven't done a lot of playing with CQL3 yet, mostly just reading the blog posts, so the following is subject to change : ) Right now, the Cequel model layer has a skinny row model (which is designed to follow common patterns of Ruby ORMs) and a wide row model (which is designed to behave more or less like a Hash, the equivalent of Java's HashMap). The two don't integrate with each other in any meaningful way, but as far as I understand it, they do pretty much cover the data modeling possibilities in CQL2. The big idea I've got for the overhaul of Cequel for CQL3 is to allow building a rich, nested data model by integrating different flavors of CQL3 table, most notably multi-column primary keys, as well as collections. The core data types I have in mind are: 1) Skinny row with simple primary key (e.g. blogs, with blog_id key) 2) Skinny row with complex primary key (e.g. blog_posts, with (blog_id, post_id) key) 3) Wide row with simple primary key (e.g. blog_languages -- kind of a weak example but i can't think of anything better for a blog : ) 4) Wide row with complex primary key (e.g. blog_post_tags) My goal is to make it easy to model one-one relationships via a shared primary key, and one-many via a shared prefix of the primary key. So, for instance, blogs and blog_languages rows would be one-one (both with a blog_id primary key) and blogs and blog_posts would be one-many (sharing the blog_id prefix in the primary key). From what I've read, it seems fairly clear that the actual CQL used to interact with #1 will be the same for CQL2 column families and CQL3 tables, so no explicit backward compatibility would be needed. #2 and #4 are, of course, CQL3-only, so backward compatibility isn't an issue there either. What I'm not entirely clear on is #3 -- this is straightforward in CQL2, and presumably a CQL3 table with compact storage would behave in the same way. However, my understanding so far is that a non-compact CQL3 table would treat this structure differently, in that both the key and value of the map would correspond to columns in a CQL3 table. It may make more sense to just target compact storage tables with this data structure, but I'm going to need to play around with it more to figure that out. Otherwise, Cequel will need to provide two flavors of that structure. There's also some tension between CQL3 collections and just using traditional wide-row structures to achieve the same thing. For instance, blog_tags could also just be a tags collection in the blogs table. My plan at this point is to offer both options, since each has its advantages (collections don't require the creation of a separate table; but a separate table gives you access to slices of the collection). Anyway, that's probably a lot more of an answer than you needed, but hopefully the context helps. Definitely interested to hear about the direction you take your client in as well. Finally, regarding a blog, we've got one set up, but it's not live yet. I'll ping you with a link when it is; I'll certainly be posting on the development of the next Cequel release. Cheers, Mat On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Timmy Turner timm.t...@gmail.com wrote: @Mat Brown: (while still retaining compatibility with CQL2 structures). Do you mean by exceeding what Cassandra itself provides in terms of CQL2/3 interoperability? I'm looking into something similar currently (however in Java not in Ruby) and would be interested in your experiences, if you follow through with the plan. Do you have a blog? Thanks! 2012/11/20 Alain RODRIGUEZ arodr...@gmail.com @Mat Well I guess you could add your Ruby client to this list since there is
Re: Looking for a good Ruby client
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Timmy Turner timm.t...@gmail.com wrote: I thought you were going to expose the internals of CQL3 features like (wide rows with) complex keys and collections to CQL2 clients (which is something that should generally be possible, if Datastax' blog posts are accurate, i.e. an actual description of how things were implemented and not just a conceptual one). https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-4377 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-4924 =Rob -- =Robert Coli AIMGTALK - rc...@palominodb.com YAHOO - rcoli.palominob SKYPE - rcoli_palominodb
Re: Looking for a good Ruby client
As the author of Cequel, I can assure you it is excellent ; ) We use it in production at Brewster and it is quite stable. If you try it out and find any bugs, we'll fix 'em quickly. I'm planning a big overhaul of the model layer over the holidays to expose all the new data modeling goodness in CQL3 (while still retaining compatibility with CQL2 structures). On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Harry Wilkinson hwilkin...@mdsol.com wrote: Update on this: someone just pointed me towards the Cequel gem: https://github.com/brewster/cequel The way it's described in the readme it looks like exactly what I was looking for - a modern, CQL-based gem that is in active development and also follows the ActiveModel pattern. I'd be very interested to hear if anybody has used this, whether it's stable/reliable, etc. Thanks. Harry On 2 August 2012 00:31, Thorsten von Eicken t...@rightscale.com wrote: Harry, we're in a similar situation and are starting to work out our own ruby client. The biggest issue is that it doesn't make much sense to build a higher level abstraction on anything other than CQL3, given where things are headed. At least this is our opinion. At the same time, CQL3 is just barely becoming usable and still seems rather deficient in wide-row usage. The tricky part is that with the current CQL3 you have to construct quite complex iterators to retrieve a large result set. Which means that you end up having to either parse CQL3 coming in to insert the iteration stuff, or you have to pass CQL3 fragments in and compose them together with iterator clauses. Not fun stuff either way. The only good solution I see is to switch to a streaming protocol (or build some form of continue on top of thrift) such that the client can ask for a huge result set and the cassandra coordinator can break it into sub-queries as it sees fit and return results chunk-by-chunk. If this is really the path forward then all abstractions built above CQL3 before that will either have a good piece of complex code that can be deleted or worse, will have an interface that is no longer best practice. Good luck! Thorsten On 8/1/2012 1:47 PM, Harry Wilkinson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a Ruby client for Cassandra that is pretty high-level. I am really hoping to find a Ruby gem of high quality that allows a developer to create models like you would with ActiveModel. So far I have figured out that the canonical Ruby client for Cassandra is Twitter's Cassandra gem of the same name. It looks great - mature, still in active development, etc. No stated support for Ruby 1.9.3 that I can see, but I can probably live with that for now. What I'm looking for is a higher-level gem built on that gem that works like ActiveModel in that you just include a module in your model class and that gives you methods to declare your model's serialized attributes and also the usual ActiveModel methods like 'save!', 'valid?', 'find', etc. I've been trying out some different NoSQL databases recently, and for example there is an official Ruby client for Riak with a domain model that is close to Riak's, but then there's also a gem called 'Ripple' that uses a domain model that is closer to what most Ruby developers are used to. So it looks like Twitter's Cassandra gem is the one that stays close to the domain model of Cassandra, and what I'm looking for is a gem that's a Cassandra equivalent of RIpple. From some searching I found cassandra_object, which has been inactive for a couple of years, but there's a fork that looks like it's being maintained, but I have not found any kind of information to suggest the maintained fork is in general use yet. I have found quite a lot of gems of a similar style that people have started and then not really got very far with. So, does anybody know of a suitable gem? Would you recommend it? Or perhaps you would recommend not using such a gem and sticking with the lower-level client gem? Thanks in advance for your advice. Harry
Re: Looking for a good Ruby client
@Mat Well I guess you could add your Ruby client to this list since there is not a lot of them yet. http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/ClientOptions Alain 2012/11/20 Mat Brown m...@brewster.com As the author of Cequel, I can assure you it is excellent ; ) We use it in production at Brewster and it is quite stable. If you try it out and find any bugs, we'll fix 'em quickly. I'm planning a big overhaul of the model layer over the holidays to expose all the new data modeling goodness in CQL3 (while still retaining compatibility with CQL2 structures). On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Harry Wilkinson hwilkin...@mdsol.com wrote: Update on this: someone just pointed me towards the Cequel gem: https://github.com/brewster/cequel The way it's described in the readme it looks like exactly what I was looking for - a modern, CQL-based gem that is in active development and also follows the ActiveModel pattern. I'd be very interested to hear if anybody has used this, whether it's stable/reliable, etc. Thanks. Harry On 2 August 2012 00:31, Thorsten von Eicken t...@rightscale.com wrote: Harry, we're in a similar situation and are starting to work out our own ruby client. The biggest issue is that it doesn't make much sense to build a higher level abstraction on anything other than CQL3, given where things are headed. At least this is our opinion. At the same time, CQL3 is just barely becoming usable and still seems rather deficient in wide-row usage. The tricky part is that with the current CQL3 you have to construct quite complex iterators to retrieve a large result set. Which means that you end up having to either parse CQL3 coming in to insert the iteration stuff, or you have to pass CQL3 fragments in and compose them together with iterator clauses. Not fun stuff either way. The only good solution I see is to switch to a streaming protocol (or build some form of continue on top of thrift) such that the client can ask for a huge result set and the cassandra coordinator can break it into sub-queries as it sees fit and return results chunk-by-chunk. If this is really the path forward then all abstractions built above CQL3 before that will either have a good piece of complex code that can be deleted or worse, will have an interface that is no longer best practice. Good luck! Thorsten On 8/1/2012 1:47 PM, Harry Wilkinson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a Ruby client for Cassandra that is pretty high-level. I am really hoping to find a Ruby gem of high quality that allows a developer to create models like you would with ActiveModel. So far I have figured out that the canonical Ruby client for Cassandra is Twitter's Cassandra gem of the same name. It looks great - mature, still in active development, etc. No stated support for Ruby 1.9.3 that I can see, but I can probably live with that for now. What I'm looking for is a higher-level gem built on that gem that works like ActiveModel in that you just include a module in your model class and that gives you methods to declare your model's serialized attributes and also the usual ActiveModel methods like 'save!', 'valid?', 'find', etc. I've been trying out some different NoSQL databases recently, and for example there is an official Ruby client for Riak with a domain model that is close to Riak's, but then there's also a gem called 'Ripple' that uses a domain model that is closer to what most Ruby developers are used to. So it looks like Twitter's Cassandra gem is the one that stays close to the domain model of Cassandra, and what I'm looking for is a gem that's a Cassandra equivalent of RIpple. From some searching I found cassandra_object, which has been inactive for a couple of years, but there's a fork that looks like it's being maintained, but I have not found any kind of information to suggest the maintained fork is in general use yet. I have found quite a lot of gems of a similar style that people have started and then not really got very far with. So, does anybody know of a suitable gem? Would you recommend it? Or perhaps you would recommend not using such a gem and sticking with the lower-level client gem? Thanks in advance for your advice. Harry
Re: Looking for a good Ruby client
@Mat Brown: (while still retaining compatibility with CQL2 structures). Do you mean by exceeding what Cassandra itself provides in terms of CQL2/3 interoperability? I'm looking into something similar currently (however in Java not in Ruby) and would be interested in your experiences, if you follow through with the plan. Do you have a blog? Thanks! 2012/11/20 Alain RODRIGUEZ arodr...@gmail.com @Mat Well I guess you could add your Ruby client to this list since there is not a lot of them yet. http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/ClientOptions Alain 2012/11/20 Mat Brown m...@brewster.com As the author of Cequel, I can assure you it is excellent ; ) We use it in production at Brewster and it is quite stable. If you try it out and find any bugs, we'll fix 'em quickly. I'm planning a big overhaul of the model layer over the holidays to expose all the new data modeling goodness in CQL3 (while still retaining compatibility with CQL2 structures). On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Harry Wilkinson hwilkin...@mdsol.com wrote: Update on this: someone just pointed me towards the Cequel gem: https://github.com/brewster/cequel The way it's described in the readme it looks like exactly what I was looking for - a modern, CQL-based gem that is in active development and also follows the ActiveModel pattern. I'd be very interested to hear if anybody has used this, whether it's stable/reliable, etc. Thanks. Harry On 2 August 2012 00:31, Thorsten von Eicken t...@rightscale.com wrote: Harry, we're in a similar situation and are starting to work out our own ruby client. The biggest issue is that it doesn't make much sense to build a higher level abstraction on anything other than CQL3, given where things are headed. At least this is our opinion. At the same time, CQL3 is just barely becoming usable and still seems rather deficient in wide-row usage. The tricky part is that with the current CQL3 you have to construct quite complex iterators to retrieve a large result set. Which means that you end up having to either parse CQL3 coming in to insert the iteration stuff, or you have to pass CQL3 fragments in and compose them together with iterator clauses. Not fun stuff either way. The only good solution I see is to switch to a streaming protocol (or build some form of continue on top of thrift) such that the client can ask for a huge result set and the cassandra coordinator can break it into sub-queries as it sees fit and return results chunk-by-chunk. If this is really the path forward then all abstractions built above CQL3 before that will either have a good piece of complex code that can be deleted or worse, will have an interface that is no longer best practice. Good luck! Thorsten On 8/1/2012 1:47 PM, Harry Wilkinson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a Ruby client for Cassandra that is pretty high-level. I am really hoping to find a Ruby gem of high quality that allows a developer to create models like you would with ActiveModel. So far I have figured out that the canonical Ruby client for Cassandra is Twitter's Cassandra gem of the same name. It looks great - mature, still in active development, etc. No stated support for Ruby 1.9.3 that I can see, but I can probably live with that for now. What I'm looking for is a higher-level gem built on that gem that works like ActiveModel in that you just include a module in your model class and that gives you methods to declare your model's serialized attributes and also the usual ActiveModel methods like 'save!', 'valid?', 'find', etc. I've been trying out some different NoSQL databases recently, and for example there is an official Ruby client for Riak with a domain model that is close to Riak's, but then there's also a gem called 'Ripple' that uses a domain model that is closer to what most Ruby developers are used to. So it looks like Twitter's Cassandra gem is the one that stays close to the domain model of Cassandra, and what I'm looking for is a gem that's a Cassandra equivalent of RIpple. From some searching I found cassandra_object, which has been inactive for a couple of years, but there's a fork that looks like it's being maintained, but I have not found any kind of information to suggest the maintained fork is in general use yet. I have found quite a lot of gems of a similar style that people have started and then not really got very far with. So, does anybody know of a suitable gem? Would you recommend it? Or perhaps you would recommend not using such a gem and sticking with the lower-level client gem? Thanks in advance for your advice. Harry
Re: Looking for a good Ruby client
Hi Timmy, I haven't done a lot of playing with CQL3 yet, mostly just reading the blog posts, so the following is subject to change : ) Right now, the Cequel model layer has a skinny row model (which is designed to follow common patterns of Ruby ORMs) and a wide row model (which is designed to behave more or less like a Hash, the equivalent of Java's HashMap). The two don't integrate with each other in any meaningful way, but as far as I understand it, they do pretty much cover the data modeling possibilities in CQL2. The big idea I've got for the overhaul of Cequel for CQL3 is to allow building a rich, nested data model by integrating different flavors of CQL3 table, most notably multi-column primary keys, as well as collections. The core data types I have in mind are: 1) Skinny row with simple primary key (e.g. blogs, with blog_id key) 2) Skinny row with complex primary key (e.g. blog_posts, with (blog_id, post_id) key) 3) Wide row with simple primary key (e.g. blog_languages -- kind of a weak example but i can't think of anything better for a blog : ) 4) Wide row with complex primary key (e.g. blog_post_tags) My goal is to make it easy to model one-one relationships via a shared primary key, and one-many via a shared prefix of the primary key. So, for instance, blogs and blog_languages rows would be one-one (both with a blog_id primary key) and blogs and blog_posts would be one-many (sharing the blog_id prefix in the primary key). From what I've read, it seems fairly clear that the actual CQL used to interact with #1 will be the same for CQL2 column families and CQL3 tables, so no explicit backward compatibility would be needed. #2 and #4 are, of course, CQL3-only, so backward compatibility isn't an issue there either. What I'm not entirely clear on is #3 -- this is straightforward in CQL2, and presumably a CQL3 table with compact storage would behave in the same way. However, my understanding so far is that a non-compact CQL3 table would treat this structure differently, in that both the key and value of the map would correspond to columns in a CQL3 table. It may make more sense to just target compact storage tables with this data structure, but I'm going to need to play around with it more to figure that out. Otherwise, Cequel will need to provide two flavors of that structure. There's also some tension between CQL3 collections and just using traditional wide-row structures to achieve the same thing. For instance, blog_tags could also just be a tags collection in the blogs table. My plan at this point is to offer both options, since each has its advantages (collections don't require the creation of a separate table; but a separate table gives you access to slices of the collection). Anyway, that's probably a lot more of an answer than you needed, but hopefully the context helps. Definitely interested to hear about the direction you take your client in as well. Finally, regarding a blog, we've got one set up, but it's not live yet. I'll ping you with a link when it is; I'll certainly be posting on the development of the next Cequel release. Cheers, Mat On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Timmy Turner timm.t...@gmail.com wrote: @Mat Brown: (while still retaining compatibility with CQL2 structures). Do you mean by exceeding what Cassandra itself provides in terms of CQL2/3 interoperability? I'm looking into something similar currently (however in Java not in Ruby) and would be interested in your experiences, if you follow through with the plan. Do you have a blog? Thanks! 2012/11/20 Alain RODRIGUEZ arodr...@gmail.com @Mat Well I guess you could add your Ruby client to this list since there is not a lot of them yet. http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/ClientOptions Alain 2012/11/20 Mat Brown m...@brewster.com As the author of Cequel, I can assure you it is excellent ; ) We use it in production at Brewster and it is quite stable. If you try it out and find any bugs, we'll fix 'em quickly. I'm planning a big overhaul of the model layer over the holidays to expose all the new data modeling goodness in CQL3 (while still retaining compatibility with CQL2 structures). On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Harry Wilkinson hwilkin...@mdsol.com wrote: Update on this: someone just pointed me towards the Cequel gem: https://github.com/brewster/cequel The way it's described in the readme it looks like exactly what I was looking for - a modern, CQL-based gem that is in active development and also follows the ActiveModel pattern. I'd be very interested to hear if anybody has used this, whether it's stable/reliable, etc. Thanks. Harry On 2 August 2012 00:31, Thorsten von Eicken t...@rightscale.com wrote: Harry, we're in a similar situation and are starting to work out our own ruby client. The biggest issue is that it doesn't make much sense to build a higher level abstraction on anything other than CQL3, given where things are
Re: Looking for a good Ruby client
Thanks Mat! I thought you were going to expose the internals of CQL3 features like (wide rows with) complex keys and collections to CQL2 clients (which is something that should generally be possible, if Datastax' blog posts are accurate, i.e. an actual description of how things were implemented and not just a conceptual one). I'm still negotiating with my project lead on what features will ultimately be implemented, so I'm not sure whether CQL2/3 interoperability will actually make it into the final 'product' .. but it isn't very high up on the priority list, so it will most likely be implemented towards the end, and thus I guess it'll also kind of depend on how much CQL2 support will be provided by Cassandra itself when the time comes. 2012/11/20 Mat Brown m...@brewster.com Hi Timmy, I haven't done a lot of playing with CQL3 yet, mostly just reading the blog posts, so the following is subject to change : ) Right now, the Cequel model layer has a skinny row model (which is designed to follow common patterns of Ruby ORMs) and a wide row model (which is designed to behave more or less like a Hash, the equivalent of Java's HashMap). The two don't integrate with each other in any meaningful way, but as far as I understand it, they do pretty much cover the data modeling possibilities in CQL2. The big idea I've got for the overhaul of Cequel for CQL3 is to allow building a rich, nested data model by integrating different flavors of CQL3 table, most notably multi-column primary keys, as well as collections. The core data types I have in mind are: 1) Skinny row with simple primary key (e.g. blogs, with blog_id key) 2) Skinny row with complex primary key (e.g. blog_posts, with (blog_id, post_id) key) 3) Wide row with simple primary key (e.g. blog_languages -- kind of a weak example but i can't think of anything better for a blog : ) 4) Wide row with complex primary key (e.g. blog_post_tags) My goal is to make it easy to model one-one relationships via a shared primary key, and one-many via a shared prefix of the primary key. So, for instance, blogs and blog_languages rows would be one-one (both with a blog_id primary key) and blogs and blog_posts would be one-many (sharing the blog_id prefix in the primary key). From what I've read, it seems fairly clear that the actual CQL used to interact with #1 will be the same for CQL2 column families and CQL3 tables, so no explicit backward compatibility would be needed. #2 and #4 are, of course, CQL3-only, so backward compatibility isn't an issue there either. What I'm not entirely clear on is #3 -- this is straightforward in CQL2, and presumably a CQL3 table with compact storage would behave in the same way. However, my understanding so far is that a non-compact CQL3 table would treat this structure differently, in that both the key and value of the map would correspond to columns in a CQL3 table. It may make more sense to just target compact storage tables with this data structure, but I'm going to need to play around with it more to figure that out. Otherwise, Cequel will need to provide two flavors of that structure. There's also some tension between CQL3 collections and just using traditional wide-row structures to achieve the same thing. For instance, blog_tags could also just be a tags collection in the blogs table. My plan at this point is to offer both options, since each has its advantages (collections don't require the creation of a separate table; but a separate table gives you access to slices of the collection). Anyway, that's probably a lot more of an answer than you needed, but hopefully the context helps. Definitely interested to hear about the direction you take your client in as well. Finally, regarding a blog, we've got one set up, but it's not live yet. I'll ping you with a link when it is; I'll certainly be posting on the development of the next Cequel release. Cheers, Mat On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Timmy Turner timm.t...@gmail.com wrote: @Mat Brown: (while still retaining compatibility with CQL2 structures). Do you mean by exceeding what Cassandra itself provides in terms of CQL2/3 interoperability? I'm looking into something similar currently (however in Java not in Ruby) and would be interested in your experiences, if you follow through with the plan. Do you have a blog? Thanks! 2012/11/20 Alain RODRIGUEZ arodr...@gmail.com @Mat Well I guess you could add your Ruby client to this list since there is not a lot of them yet. http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/ClientOptions Alain 2012/11/20 Mat Brown m...@brewster.com As the author of Cequel, I can assure you it is excellent ; ) We use it in production at Brewster and it is quite stable. If you try it out and find any bugs, we'll fix 'em quickly. I'm planning a big overhaul of the model layer over the holidays to expose all the new data modeling goodness
Re: Looking for a good Ruby client
Update on this: someone just pointed me towards the Cequel gem: https://github.com/brewster/cequel The way it's described in the readme it looks like exactly what I was looking for - a modern, CQL-based gem that is in active development and also follows the ActiveModel pattern. I'd be very interested to hear if anybody has used this, whether it's stable/reliable, etc. Thanks. Harry On 2 August 2012 00:31, Thorsten von Eicken t...@rightscale.com wrote: Harry, we're in a similar situation and are starting to work out our own ruby client. The biggest issue is that it doesn't make much sense to build a higher level abstraction on anything other than CQL3, given where things are headed. At least this is our opinion. At the same time, CQL3 is just barely becoming usable and still seems rather deficient in wide-row usage. The tricky part is that with the current CQL3 you have to construct quite complex iterators to retrieve a large result set. Which means that you end up having to either parse CQL3 coming in to insert the iteration stuff, or you have to pass CQL3 fragments in and compose them together with iterator clauses. Not fun stuff either way. The only good solution I see is to switch to a streaming protocol (or build some form of continue on top of thrift) such that the client can ask for a huge result set and the cassandra coordinator can break it into sub-queries as it sees fit and return results chunk-by-chunk. If this is really the path forward then all abstractions built above CQL3 before that will either have a good piece of complex code that can be deleted or worse, will have an interface that is no longer best practice. Good luck! Thorsten On 8/1/2012 1:47 PM, Harry Wilkinson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a Ruby client for Cassandra that is pretty high-level. I am really hoping to find a Ruby gem of high quality that allows a developer to create models like you would with ActiveModel. So far I have figured out that the canonical Ruby client for Cassandra is Twitter's Cassandra gem https://github.com/twitter/cassandra/ of the same name. It looks great - mature, still in active development, etc. No stated support for Ruby 1.9.3 that I can see, but I can probably live with that for now. What I'm looking for is a higher-level gem built on that gem that works like ActiveModel in that you just include a module in your model class and that gives you methods to declare your model's serialized attributes and also the usual ActiveModel methods like 'save!', 'valid?', 'find', etc. I've been trying out some different NoSQL databases recently, and for example there is an official Ruby clienthttps://github.com/basho/riak-ruby-clientfor Riak with a domain model that is close to Riak's, but then there's also a gem called 'Ripple' https://github.com/seancribbs/ripple that uses a domain model that is closer to what most Ruby developers are used to. So it looks like Twitter's Cassandra gem is the one that stays close to the domain model of Cassandra, and what I'm looking for is a gem that's a Cassandra equivalent of RIpple. From some searching I found cassandra_objecthttps://github.com/NZKoz/cassandra_object, which has been inactive for a couple of years, but there's a forkhttps://github.com/data-axle/cassandra_objectthat looks like it's being maintained, but I have not found any kind of information to suggest the maintained fork is in general use yet. I have found quite a lot of gems of a similar style that people have started and then not really got very far with. So, does anybody know of a suitable gem? Would you recommend it? Or perhaps you would recommend not using such a gem and sticking with the lower-level client gem? Thanks in advance for your advice. Harry
Re: Looking for a good Ruby client
Harry, we're in a similar situation and are starting to work out our own ruby client. The biggest issue is that it doesn't make much sense to build a higher level abstraction on anything other than CQL3, given where things are headed. At least this is our opinion. At the same time, CQL3 is just barely becoming usable and still seems rather deficient in wide-row usage. The tricky part is that with the current CQL3 you have to construct quite complex iterators to retrieve a large result set. Which means that you end up having to either parse CQL3 coming in to insert the iteration stuff, or you have to pass CQL3 fragments in and compose them together with iterator clauses. Not fun stuff either way. The only good solution I see is to switch to a streaming protocol (or build some form of continue on top of thrift) such that the client can ask for a huge result set and the cassandra coordinator can break it into sub-queries as it sees fit and return results chunk-by-chunk. If this is really the path forward then all abstractions built above CQL3 before that will either have a good piece of complex code that can be deleted or worse, will have an interface that is no longer best practice. Good luck! Thorsten On 8/1/2012 1:47 PM, Harry Wilkinson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a Ruby client for Cassandra that is pretty high-level. I am really hoping to find a Ruby gem of high quality that allows a developer to create models like you would with ActiveModel. So far I have figured out that the canonical Ruby client for Cassandra is Twitter's Cassandra gem https://github.com/twitter/cassandra/ of the same name. It looks great - mature, still in active development, etc. No stated support for Ruby 1.9.3 that I can see, but I can probably live with that for now. What I'm looking for is a higher-level gem built on that gem that works like ActiveModel in that you just include a module in your model class and that gives you methods to declare your model's serialized attributes and also the usual ActiveModel methods like 'save!', 'valid?', 'find', etc. I've been trying out some different NoSQL databases recently, and for example there is an official Ruby client https://github.com/basho/riak-ruby-client for Riak with a domain model that is close to Riak's, but then there's also a gem called 'Ripple' https://github.com/seancribbs/ripple that uses a domain model that is closer to what most Ruby developers are used to. So it looks like Twitter's Cassandra gem is the one that stays close to the domain model of Cassandra, and what I'm looking for is a gem that's a Cassandra equivalent of RIpple. From some searching I found cassandra_object https://github.com/NZKoz/cassandra_object, which has been inactive for a couple of years, but there's a fork https://github.com/data-axle/cassandra_object that looks like it's being maintained, but I have not found any kind of information to suggest the maintained fork is in general use yet. I have found quite a lot of gems of a similar style that people have started and then not really got very far with. So, does anybody know of a suitable gem? Would you recommend it? Or perhaps you would recommend not using such a gem and sticking with the lower-level client gem? Thanks in advance for your advice. Harry
