[libreoffice-users] Localization of macros

2011-11-29 Thread Leif Lodahl
Hi all,
I often need to have text strings other that dialog labels. This can be
error messages, status line messages and msgbox() text.

Does anyone here has experience with developing localizable macros?

It is possible to localize dialogs, the but is there a some kind of best
practice method to access these strings from a Basic macro?

I have found a way to do it, but if there is an official way of doing it, I
would like to hear about it.


Cheers,
Leif Lodahl

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Re: [libreoffice-users] New design

2011-11-29 Thread e-letter
On 28/11/2011, doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
 If LO becomes like Unity you will surely drive me back to Windows, where
 I can use WordPerfect, whcih I prefer anyway.

Linux novices via ubuntu: please be aware that ubuntu is not
gnu/linux!!! Review the distrowatch web site and realise that there
many alternatives to consider. It would be a disappointment to observe
ubuntu fans complain, revert to m$ and forget rest of the open source
world.

As for LO user interface, this demonstrates the power of odf;
alternative word processors can be used.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: New design

2011-11-29 Thread Pedro

Tim Deaton wrote
 
 Some other programs a few years back introduced the idea of skins.  If 
 we're going to experiment with new user interfaces (and I expect LO will 
 have to), I think the skins concept would be most appropriate.  If 
 necessary, re-engineer the underlying commands so that they are not 
 dependent on the hierarchy of a particular type of user interface.  Then 
 let the current UI become one skin, Pedro's ideas become another, etc.
 

That would be perfect. Even if it's not a free-form skinning interface, it
would be fantastic to have the option to load e.g. Classic, Widescreen,
Ribbon or to create and import/export a user customized interface. 

This is particularly useful when you have fine tuned the buttons you need/
don't need. This would allow the user to do it only once instead of in each
computer you use.

Contrary to what some people think this is not a pointless idea just for the
skinning/tunning geeks. This is actually a way that any user can improve
productivity by having the functions (s)he uses most at the most convenient
position.

It would be fantastic if LibreOffice chose this path of usability freedom ;)

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[libreoffice-users] French/English date

2011-11-29 Thread Julius Becker
Hi everyone,

LibreOffice (I use version 3.4.4 under Windows 7) offers the
possibility to insert a text field that shows the current date.
Although using the German version, I can insert a French date in the
worksheets for my students. Unfortunately, there is a little mistake
that bugs me: In French, you normally use the number of the day, the
name of the month and the year. Like 28 novembre 2011. But on every
first day of a month, you have to use the ordinal number: 1er
décembre 2011. LibreOffice (as well as Word) ignores this rule. It
doesn't allow English date formats with ordinal numbers like
1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th of December 2011 neither.

I find this hard to believe since this is a common way to write down a
date (especially in French).

This is why I ask you. Maybe I've been to blind to see the simple answer.

Thanks,

Julius

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RE: [libreoffice-users] French/English date

2011-11-29 Thread Bruce Carlson
Hi Julius,

I understand your concerns completely. It has bothered me for years but the 
correct long date format in English or at least English English is :-

eg:

Tuesday the 29th. of November, 2011.

Note the correct use of articles, ordinals, commas and full stops... (the 
things Americans call periods.)

No word processor or database application I have ever seen can format long 
dates correctly in English or any other language that I'm aware of and that is 
why I've written my own code and macros to format dates the way I was taught at 
school and while that was many many many years ago evolution is no excuse for 
inaccuracy. To format dates incorrectly seems to me to be an expedience, not an 
attempt at accuracy.

Whilst we have for many years had to endure commercial applications written in 
one particular cultural style or another I believe open source is a very good 
opportunity to get localisations (notice the use of s and not zed) correct 
and if people from various cultures can contribute to this we will all be 
winners.

Bruce Carlson

-Original Message-
From: Julius Becker [mailto:julius.bec...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 8:17 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] French/English date

Hi everyone,

LibreOffice (I use version 3.4.4 under Windows 7) offers the possibility to 
insert a text field that shows the current date.
Although using the German version, I can insert a French date in the 
worksheets for my students. Unfortunately, there is a little mistake that bugs 
me: In French, you normally use the number of the day, the name of the month 
and the year. Like 28 novembre 2011. But on every first day of a month, you 
have to use the ordinal number: 1er d cembre 2011. LibreOffice (as well as 
Word) ignores this rule. It doesn't allow English date formats with ordinal 
numbers like 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th of December 2011 neither.

I find this hard to believe since this is a common way to write down a date 
(especially in French).

This is why I ask you. Maybe I've been to blind to see the simple answer.

Thanks,

Julius

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Re: [libreoffice-users] deleting hard returns

2011-11-29 Thread Mélodie

Le 28/11/11 03:32, poemblaze a écrit :

Help! I am wanting to delete hard returns that were placed at the end of
every line of a large document. All I've seen is how to delete a paragraph
(hard) return in a blank paragraph. I'd also like to convert hard returns to
soft returns in a couple places. That is the opposite action of what I've
seen explained elsewhere. Any help would be appreciated.

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As others have said, $ is your friend

but I must say, this is THE most common use I have for search  replace, 
getting rid of unwanted bits  pieces when cleaning up text someone else 
has given me (or that I have pinched !), and it is a shame that it is so 
hard to find.



Mel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] New design

2011-11-29 Thread Jay Lozier

On 11/29/2011 04:29 AM, e-letter wrote:

On 28/11/2011, dougdmcgarr...@optonline.net  wrote:

If LO becomes like Unity you will surely drive me back to Windows, where
I can use WordPerfect, whcih I prefer anyway.

Linux novices via ubuntu: please be aware that ubuntu is not
gnu/linux!!! Review the distrowatch web site and realise that there
many alternatives to consider. It would be a disappointment to observe
ubuntu fans complain, revert to m$ and forget rest of the open source
world.

As for LO user interface, this demonstrates the power of odf;
alternative word processors can be used.

Knock off the flame - the relative merits of a distro is not the real 
issue. The issue is how to improve the LO UI. The only reasons Unity and 
Gnome 3 would be important are lessons that could be used from their 
experiences. Note Gnome 3 is used on a number distros with acerbic 
comments by users about wanting classic Gnome.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: New design

2011-11-29 Thread Jay Lozier

On 11/29/2011 04:36 AM, Pedro wrote:

Tim Deaton wrote

Some other programs a few years back introduced the idea of skins.  If
we're going to experiment with new user interfaces (and I expect LO will
have to), I think the skins concept would be most appropriate.  If
necessary, re-engineer the underlying commands so that they are not
dependent on the hierarchy of a particular type of user interface.  Then
let the current UI become one skin, Pedro's ideas become another, etc.


That would be perfect. Even if it's not a free-form skinning interface, it
would be fantastic to have the option to load e.g. Classic, Widescreen,
Ribbon or to create and import/export a user customized interface.

This is particularly useful when you have fine tuned the buttons you need/
don't need. This would allow the user to do it only once instead of in each
computer you use.

Contrary to what some people think this is not a pointless idea just for the
skinning/tunning geeks. This is actually a way that any user can improve
productivity by having the functions (s)he uses most at the most convenient
position.

It would be fantastic if LibreOffice chose this path of usability freedom ;)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] French/English date

2011-11-29 Thread Jay Lozier

On 11/29/2011 07:38 AM, Bruce Carlson wrote:

Hi Julius,

I understand your concerns completely. It has bothered me for years but the 
correct long date format in English or at least English English is :-

eg:

Tuesday the 29th. of November, 2011.
Add another problem, in the US the normal date order is month day, year 
and I do not know what the proper legalese for dates is. I suspect it is 
long British usage carried over from Colonial period legal documents.




Note the correct use of articles, ordinals, commas and full stops... (the 
things Americans call periods.)

No word processor or database application I have ever seen can format long 
dates correctly in English or any other language that I'm aware of and that is 
why I've written my own code and macros to format dates the way I was taught at 
school and while that was many many many years ago evolution is no excuse for 
inaccuracy. To format dates incorrectly seems to me to be an expedience, not an 
attempt at accuracy.

Whilst we have for many years had to endure commercial applications written in one 
particular cultural style or another I believe open source is a very good opportunity to 
get localisations (notice the use of s and not zed) correct and if people 
from various cultures can contribute to this we will all be winners.

Bruce Carlson

-Original Message-
From: Julius Becker [mailto:julius.bec...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 8:17 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] French/English date


Hi everyone,
LibreOffice (I use version 3.4.4 under Windows 7) offers the possibility to 
insert a text field that shows the current date.
Although using the German version, I can insert a French date in the worksheets for my students. Unfortunately, 
there is a little mistake that bugs me: In French, you normally use the number of the day, the name ofthe month 
and the year. Like 28 novembre 2011. But on every first day of a month, you have to use the ordinal 
number: 1er d cembre 2011. LibreOffice (as well as Word) ignores this rule. It doesn't allow 
Englishdate formats with ordinal numbers like 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th of December 2011 neither.
I find this hard to believe since this is a common way to write down a date 
(especially in French).
This is why I ask you. Maybe I've been to blind to see the simple answer.
Thanks,
Julius

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Localization of macros

2011-11-29 Thread Jay Lozier

On 11/29/2011 03:37 AM, Leif Lodahl wrote:

Hi all,
I often need to have text strings other that dialog labels. This can be
error messages, status line messages and msgbox() text.

Does anyone here has experience with developing localizable macros?

It is possible to localize dialogs, the but is there a some kind of best
practice method to access these strings from a Basic macro?

I have found a way to do it, but if there is an official way of doing it, I
would like to hear about it.


Cheers,
Leif Lodahl

Other than reviewing best practices for the content and display of error 
messages from a macro I would check Andrew Piontyak's Basic guide for 
OO/LO. I am not sure of the links.


Probably the best advise is to think of the user, the desired (or 
required) response from them, and being clear but concise about the 
problem. If possible indicate to the user what they can do to possibly 
fix the problem. Many error messages are extremely cryptic to the users.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Localization of macros

2011-11-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Dohhh!!  I should have known that and given the link as i created that page to 
try to make things easier to find!!  Sorry chaps (and ladies), here's a link
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Programmers
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Tue, 29/11/11, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Localization of macros
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Tuesday, 29 November, 2011, 15:03
 On 11/29/2011 03:37 AM, Leif Lodahl
 wrote:
  Hi all,
  I often need to have text strings other that dialog
 labels. This can be
  error messages, status line messages and msgbox()
 text.
  
  Does anyone here has experience with developing
 localizable macros?
  
  It is possible to localize dialogs, the but is there a
 some kind of best
  practice method to access these strings from a Basic
 macro?
  
  I have found a way to do it, but if there is an
 official way of doing it, I
  would like to hear about it.
  
  
  Cheers,
  Leif Lodahl
  
 Other than reviewing best practices for the content and
 display of error messages from a macro I would check Andrew
 Piontyak's Basic guide for OO/LO. I am not sure of the
 links.
 
 Probably the best advise is to think of the user, the
 desired (or required) response from them, and being clear
 but concise about the problem. If possible indicate to the
 user what they can do to possibly fix the problem. Many
 error messages are extremely cryptic to the users.
 
 -- Jay Lozier
 jsloz...@gmail.com
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: New design

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Hudson
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 09:47:23 -0500, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 11/29/2011 04:29 AM, e-letter wrote:
 On 28/11/2011, dougdmcgarr...@optonline.net  wrote:
 If LO becomes like Unity you will surely drive me back to Windows, where
 I can use WordPerfect, whcih I prefer anyway.

Knock off the flame - the relative merits of a distro is not the real 
issue. The issue is how to improve the LO UI. The only reasons Unity and 
Gnome 3 would be important are lessons that could be used from their 
experiences. Note Gnome 3 is used on a number distros with acerbic 
comments by users about wanting classic Gnome.

And by quiet people who love it and would not lightly go back to G2.

-jh


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: New design

2011-11-29 Thread Jay Lozier

On 11/29/2011 12:13 PM, Jonathan Hudson wrote:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 09:47:23 -0500, Jay Lozier wrote:


On 11/29/2011 04:29 AM, e-letter wrote:

On 28/11/2011, dougdmcgarr...@optonline.net   wrote:

If LO becomes like Unity you will surely drive me back to Windows, where
I can use WordPerfect, whcih I prefer anyway.

Knock off the flame - the relative merits of a distro is not the real
issue. The issue is how to improve the LO UI. The only reasons Unity and
Gnome 3 would be important are lessons that could be used from their
experiences. Note Gnome 3 is used on a number distros with acerbic
comments by users about wanting classic Gnome.

And by quiet people who love it and would not lightly go back to G2.

-jh


Myself, I dislike Unity so far and have been warming to Gnome 3 
particularly with Mint's additions or when using a dock for quick 
access. However this is a personal, ascetic reason not particularly 
technical. I actually like G2.


The issue is how to manage updating/upgrading the UI so people have 
choices. What I like or find very useful another may find to be 
pointless bloat. This issue is how to manage the options so enough are 
present for the mythical average user and for the power users to be 
content.


I recognize this is difficult to do. The complaints about Unity and 
Gnome 3 are an indication that this is not easy to do. My comment is 
that we should pay attention to the experience and try to find a better 
way forward not that I have a particular objection. There will a tension 
among users who feel almost any UI we use is dated and staid and those 
who find the current UI is very comfortable.


Possibly a better approach would be to ask users, particularly Linux 
users, who have seen recent UI changes in an OS what why they liked or 
disliked about the changes. Also, ask how they would handle the changes. 
Some of the issues will be ascetic and some technical/hardware (size of 
monitor, etc).


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread Joe Conner

On 11/29/2011 6:48 AM, James Finnall wrote:

Hello List,

For years with OpenOffice I was able to use a document as template to 
print my photos on 8 1/2x11 photo paper by reloading the document 
and simply replacing the images.


I think it was UBuntu version 11 that changed me over to LibreOffice.  
I have found that my documents seem to load and print just fine as 
they were originally saved.  But I have not been able to locate a 
method to replace the graphic images in a document, either by the top 
menu or by right clicking the image.


The only way I have found is to delete the image and then insert the 
new image from scratch!  This is most difficult for precise image size 
and placement.   I use a standard aspect on my camera (3:2) and have 
the image size for all four photos exactly the same.  They are also 
positioned to allow just a barely visible white line between the 
photos for cutting.  And the margins are set to be allowed on my 
printer without the images being cropped off.


To duplicate all these settings on every image is way too time 
consuming.  I need to be able to simply change the image in the four 
graphic entities without effecting size, placement or aspect ratio of 
the original image.


Anybody have any suggestions that I might try to replace the images of 
a document?


Thank you,
James



Have you tried to insert a frame, and then put your photo into it?
Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: New design

2011-11-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
We do.  We ask people to get involved with the decision making at all levels in 
TDF.  Hmmm, well probably that is mostly the other lists but we do ask 
occasionally.  Don't forget that a lot of those users are really us, or 
become us even if we disagree and argue with each other occasionally.  It's not 
like a proprietary thing where there is a clear distinction between users and 
people that that manage the project.  Each new person that starts getting 
involved changes the project and changes what us means.  There is not really 
an themus here.  It's one of the exciting things about the project imo.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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 From: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: New design
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Tuesday, 29 November, 2011, 17:47
 On 11/29/2011 12:13 PM, Jonathan
 Hudson wrote:
  On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 09:47:23 -0500, Jay Lozier wrote:
  
  On 11/29/2011 04:29 AM, e-letter wrote:
  On 28/11/2011, dougdmcgarr...@optonline.net   wrote:
  If LO becomes like Unity you will surely
 drive me back to Windows, where
  I can use WordPerfect, whcih I prefer
 anyway.
  Knock off the flame - the relative merits of a
 distro is not the real
  issue. The issue is how to improve the LO UI. The
 only reasons Unity and
  Gnome 3 would be important are lessons that could
 be used from their
  experiences. Note Gnome 3 is used on a number
 distros with acerbic
  comments by users about wanting classic Gnome.
  And by quiet people who love it and would not lightly
 go back to G2.
  
  -jh
  
  
 Myself, I dislike Unity so far and have been warming to
 Gnome 3 particularly with Mint's additions or when using a
 dock for quick access. However this is a personal, ascetic
 reason not particularly technical. I actually like G2.
 
 The issue is how to manage updating/upgrading the UI so
 people have choices. What I like or find very useful another
 may find to be pointless bloat. This issue is how to manage
 the options so enough are present for the mythical average
 user and for the power users to be content.
 
 I recognize this is difficult to do. The complaints about
 Unity and Gnome 3 are an indication that this is not easy to
 do. My comment is that we should pay attention to the
 experience and try to find a better way forward not that I
 have a particular objection. There will a tension among
 users who feel almost any UI we use is dated and staid and
 those who find the current UI is very comfortable.
 
 Possibly a better approach would be to ask users,
 particularly Linux users, who have seen recent UI changes in
 an OS what why they liked or disliked about the changes.
 Also, ask how they would handle the changes. Some of the
 issues will be ascetic and some technical/hardware (size of
 monitor, etc).
 
 -- Jay Lozier
 jsloz...@gmail.com
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread James Finnall

On 11/29/2011 12:53 PM, Joe Conner wrote:

On 11/29/2011 6:48 AM, James Finnall wrote:

Hello List,

For years with OpenOffice I was able to use a document as template to
print my photos on 8 1/2x11 photo paper by reloading the document
and simply replacing the images.

I think it was UBuntu version 11 that changed me over to
LibreOffice.  I have found that my documents seem to load and print
just fine as they were originally saved.  But I have not been able to
locate a method to replace the graphic images in a document, either
by the top menu or by right clicking the image.

The only way I have found is to delete the image and then insert the
new image from scratch!  This is most difficult for precise image
size and placement.   I use a standard aspect on my camera (3:2) and
have the image size for all four photos exactly the same.  They are
also positioned to allow just a barely visible white line between the
photos for cutting.  And the margins are set to be allowed on my
printer without the images being cropped off.

To duplicate all these settings on every image is way too time
consuming.  I need to be able to simply change the image in the four
graphic entities without effecting size, placement or aspect ratio of
the original image.

Anybody have any suggestions that I might try to replace the images
of a document?

Thank you,
James



Have you tried to insert a frame, and then put your photo into it?
Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

Thank you for the suggestion.  No, I had not attempted to use a frame. 
 I just spent a few minutes with frames.  But it came down to the same 
problem, I was unable to replace the image inside of the frame.  Also, 
when I attempted to size the image to the frame, the frame size just 
self adjusted to allow for the image.  So I did not see where it made 
any improvement in the delete and replace option if the frames adjust to 
any changes.

Thanks,
James


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Esperanto

2011-11-29 Thread Dominique Pellé
David Laffineuse wrote:

 When I try to install the Esperantilo, it basically tells me
 that it doesn't work on a Mac as it depends on a native
 Windows application that must also be installed. As for
 the second file (Litermulo), the installation seems to work
 fine, but the dictionary does not appear in the list of
 available dictionaries in Writer, and it is therefore unusable.
 Any further help would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks,
 David

Hi David

For grammar checkin in Esperanto, you can try the LanguageTool
grammar checker which works in Esperanto (among other languages).
LanguageTool is written in Java. So it works on Mac, Linux or Windows.
LanguageTool is a plugin for LibreOffice or OpenOffice.  It can also
be used standalone in command line (I use it in Vim).

  http://www.languagetool.org/

Some screenshots in Esperanto:

  http://dominiko.livejournal.com/26366.html

Sukceson

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread James / Support

On 11/29/2011 12:53 PM, Joe Conner wrote:

On 11/29/2011 6:48 AM, James Finnall wrote:

Hello List,

For years with OpenOffice I was able to use a document as template to 
print my photos on 8 1/2x11 photo paper by reloading the document 
and simply replacing the images.


I think it was UBuntu version 11 that changed me over to 
LibreOffice.  I have found that my documents seem to load and print 
just fine as they were originally saved.  But I have not been able to 
locate a method to replace the graphic images in a document, either 
by the top menu or by right clicking the image.


The only way I have found is to delete the image and then insert the 
new image from scratch!  This is most difficult for precise image 
size and placement.   I use a standard aspect on my camera (3:2) and 
have the image size for all four photos exactly the same.  They are 
also positioned to allow just a barely visible white line between the 
photos for cutting.  And the margins are set to be allowed on my 
printer without the images being cropped off.


To duplicate all these settings on every image is way too time 
consuming.  I need to be able to simply change the image in the four 
graphic entities without effecting size, placement or aspect ratio of 
the original image.


Anybody have any suggestions that I might try to replace the images 
of a document?


Thank you,
James



Have you tried to insert a frame, and then put your photo into it?
Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

Thank you for the suggestion.  No, I had not attempted to use a frame.   
I just spent a few minutes with frames.  But it came down to the same 
problem, I was unable to replace the image inside of the frame.  Also, 
when I attempted to size the image to the frame, the frame size just 
self adjusted to allow for the image.  So I did not see where it made 
any improvement in the delete and replace option if the frames adjust to 
any changes.

Thanks,
James


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi James,

James Finnall wrote (29-11-11 15:48)


For years with OpenOffice I was able to use a document as template to
print my photos on 8 1/2x11 photo paper by reloading the document and
simply replacing the images.

I think it was UBuntu version 11 that changed me over to LibreOffice.


Argh, nasty situation.
I remember a quite extensive discussion in OpenOffice.org some year or 
so ago (don't over-ask my memory) where the behaviour was discussed what 
to do when an image is selected and a new image is inserted. And that in 
Writer, Impress/Draw, Calc.
And indeed, it was about: should a newly inserted image replace the 
selected one or be added alongside.
So no doubt, that the change you experience is a result of what has been 
discussed then.


I think, without real code work, there is little relief for you...
But maybe the behaviour in Draw is different (I'm afraid not...)

Hmm, it would not be too difficult to write a macro to do the changes 
for you. Maybe that's an idea?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Localization of macros

2011-11-29 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Leif,

Leif Lodahl wrote (29-11-11 09:37)


I often need to have text strings other that dialog labels. This can be
error messages, status line messages and msgbox() text.

Does anyone here has experience with developing localizable macros?


I have somthing simple done in my extension
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/ct2n-convert-text-to-number-and-dates/releases/1.4.0/converttexttonumber-1.4.0.oxt/view

Just a function with all strings. YOu could have thought about that 
yourself ;-)


But IIRC, there was some way too, to use the xml file that contains the 
translated strings for the dialogs..


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ok, can you increase the memory allotted to this sort of thing?
Tools - Options - Memory

Also i have found it better to make sure both the pictures and the document are 
stored locally rather than accessed over a network.  It helps to edit the 
picture with Gimp or something to try to get the pictures file-size down.  Jpg 
is quite nasty lossy compression.  Png is usually better.  Gif is often great 
for logos.  I try saving the picture in all 3 formats and then see which is 
lightest and which looks best.  Sometimes cleaning up an image so that it has 
less random weirdnesses where it's been broken (such as wake and stray 
fuzziness around the corners of things in a jpg) can significantly improve the 
quality of the picture AND drop file-size at the same time.  

Note that cameras and even phones are taking hugely higher resolution pictures 
which are making pictures heavier and heavier even at the same physical size.  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 29/11/11, James / Support supp...@qss.biz wrote:

 From: James / Support supp...@qss.biz
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Tuesday, 29 November, 2011, 18:36
 On 11/29/2011 12:53 PM, Joe Conner
 wrote:
  On 11/29/2011 6:48 AM, James Finnall wrote:
  Hello List,
  
  For years with OpenOffice I was able to use a
 document as template to print my photos on 8 1/2x11 photo
 paper by reloading the document and simply replacing the
 images.
  
  I think it was UBuntu version 11 that changed me
 over to LibreOffice.  I have found that my documents
 seem to load and print just fine as they were originally
 saved.  But I have not been able to locate a method to
 replace the graphic images in a document, either by the top
 menu or by right clicking the image.
  
  The only way I have found is to delete the image
 and then insert the new image from scratch!  This is
 most difficult for precise image size and
 placement.   I use a standard aspect on my
 camera (3:2) and have the image size for all four photos
 exactly the same.  They are also positioned to allow
 just a barely visible white line between the photos for
 cutting.  And the margins are set to be allowed on my
 printer without the images being cropped off.
  
  To duplicate all these settings on every image is
 way too time consuming.  I need to be able to simply
 change the image in the four graphic entities without
 effecting size, placement or aspect ratio of the original
 image.
  
  Anybody have any suggestions that I might try to
 replace the images of a document?
  
  Thank you,
  James
  
  
  Have you tried to insert a frame, and then put your
 photo into it?
  Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA
  
 Thank you for the suggestion.  No, I had not attempted
 to use a frame.   I just spent a few minutes
 with frames.  But it came down to the same problem, I
 was unable to replace the image inside of the frame. 
 Also, when I attempted to size the image to the frame, the
 frame size just self adjusted to allow for the image. 
 So I did not see where it made any improvement in the delete
 and replace option if the frames adjust to any changes.
 Thanks,
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[libreoffice-users] apols Re: Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread Tom
Hi :)
Ouch!  Please completely ignore my last post!!  Utterly useless and nothing
to do with the question
Apols and regards from
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Re: [libreoffice-users] JAVA issue

2011-11-29 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I thought 7 was still in development.
or it was and not ready for downloading according to the site last week 
or so.


On 11/29/2011 03:50 PM, The Invisible Phan wrote:
After installing the latest LibreOffice it doesn't seem to recognize 
the latest version of JAVA (7u1) as being installed and complains 
bitterly during startup — is there any fix for this?  It happens on 
more than one system and makes starting LO slow and annoying :-( .







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Re: [libreoffice-users] JAVA issue

2011-11-29 Thread drew
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 15:50 -0500, The Invisible Phan wrote:
 After installing the latest LibreOffice it doesn't seem to recognize the 
 latest version of JAVA (7u1) as being installed and complains bitterly during 
 startup — is there any fix for this?  It happens on more than one system and 
 makes starting LO slow and annoying :-( .

Howdy oh transparent one.

Known problem - not recognizing version 7.

The fix is in the code for the 3.5 release already.

There has been some talk about backing that fix into a 3.4.x release,
but I don't believe that a final decision has happened on that just yet
- could be wrong on that, it's hard to follow every conversation.

So - you could, given that Java 6u29 is still the official stable
release, add that to your workstations as a temporary fix - you could
start LibO, go to ToolsOptionsJava and explicitly change the setting
to NOT use a java runtime - this will I think help your start up, but
not 100% sure on that, especially under Windows.

Otherwise - ??

Best wishes,

Drew Jensen


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[libreoffice-users] Download LibO_3.4.4_Win_x86_all_lang.exe?

2011-11-29 Thread Spencer Graves



  1.  LibreOffice Downloading Instructions mention an all_lang 
installer (www.libreoffice.org/download/instructions 
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/instructions/).  Is this an option 
that is not available with LibreOffice_3.4.4 for Windows (esp. Windows 
7)?  If it is available, how can I find it?  (I remember previously 
having problems with multiple languages in LIbreOffice.)



  2.  Where can I find instructions on how to install multiple 
languages?  (When I installed 3.4.3, I spent a couple of days figuring 
all that out.  Unfortunately, I can't find them now.)



  Thanks,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] JAVA issue

2011-11-29 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi,

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:50 PM, The Invisible Phan wrote:
 After installing the latest LibreOffice it doesn't seem to recognize the
 latest version of JAVA (7u1) as being installed and complains bitterly
 during startup — is there any fix for this? [...]

Bug 39659 - Java 1.7.0 not recognised [Comment #37]
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39659#c37

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[libreoffice-users] Re: JAVA issue

2011-11-29 Thread Tom
Hi :)
The best release of java, for LibreOffice seems to be the 6u21 version which
is hopefully still available.

The good news is that you can run more than 1 version of java and only
LibreOffice will use the odler one and only if you specifically ask it too

Tools - Options - Java

Regards from
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread James Finnall

On 11/29/2011 03:20 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi James,

James Finnall wrote (29-11-11 15:48)


For years with OpenOffice I was able to use a document as template to
print my photos on 8 1/2x11 photo paper by reloading the document and
simply replacing the images.

I think it was UBuntu version 11 that changed me over to LibreOffice.


Argh, nasty situation.
I remember a quite extensive discussion in OpenOffice.org some year or 
so ago (don't over-ask my memory) where the behaviour was discussed 
what to do when an image is selected and a new image is inserted. And 
that in Writer, Impress/Draw, Calc.
And indeed, it was about: should a newly inserted image replace the 
selected one or be added alongside.
So no doubt, that the change you experience is a result of what has 
been discussed then.


I think, without real code work, there is little relief for you...
But maybe the behaviour in Draw is different (I'm afraid not...)

Hmm, it would not be too difficult to write a macro to do the changes 
for you. Maybe that's an idea?


Kind regards,


So it sounds like their discussion ended with Just don't do anything!

It has been awhile since I had to print any photos, but it seemed to me 
that I would select the old image and Insert-Picture-From File on 
the menu and then select the new image file to use.  It would then 
replace the image with the new image.  When doing repeat operations of 
even small images, I could do the first image and resize, etc then 
copy/paste as many as needed and locate on paper. Then load a new image 
into each one.  But I have not been able to replace any images since 
LibreOffice installation.  (LibreOffice Version 3.4.4 with Ubuntu 11.10)


It is difficult for me to believe I am the only one that desires this 
operation.


Thank you for your response.
James


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think it might be worth posting a bug-report about this issue
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 29/11/11, James Finnall ja...@finnall.net wrote:

 From: James Finnall ja...@finnall.net
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Tuesday, 29 November, 2011, 21:31
 On 11/29/2011 03:20 PM, Cor Nouws
 wrote:
  Hi James,
  
  James Finnall wrote (29-11-11 15:48)
  
  For years with OpenOffice I was able to use a
 document as template to
  print my photos on 8 1/2x11 photo paper by
 reloading the document and
  simply replacing the images.
  
  I think it was UBuntu version 11 that changed me
 over to LibreOffice.
  
  Argh, nasty situation.
  I remember a quite extensive discussion in
 OpenOffice.org some year or so ago (don't over-ask my
 memory) where the behaviour was discussed what to do when an
 image is selected and a new image is inserted. And that in
 Writer, Impress/Draw, Calc.
  And indeed, it was about: should a newly inserted
 image replace the selected one or be added alongside.
  So no doubt, that the change you experience is a
 result of what has been discussed then.
  
  I think, without real code work, there is little
 relief for you...
  But maybe the behaviour in Draw is different (I'm
 afraid not...)
  
  Hmm, it would not be too difficult to write a macro to
 do the changes for you. Maybe that's an idea?
  
  Kind regards,
  
 So it sounds like their discussion ended with Just don't
 do anything!
 
 It has been awhile since I had to print any photos, but it
 seemed to me that I would select the old image and
 Insert-Picture-From File on the menu and then
 select the new image file to use.  It would then
 replace the image with the new image.  When doing
 repeat operations of even small images, I could do the first
 image and resize, etc then copy/paste as many as needed and
 locate on paper. Then load a new image into each one. 
 But I have not been able to replace any images since
 LibreOffice installation.  (LibreOffice Version 3.4.4
 with Ubuntu 11.10)
 
 It is difficult for me to believe I am the only one that
 desires this operation.
 
 Thank you for your response.
 James
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Download LibO_3.4.4_Win_x86_all_lang.exe?

2011-11-29 Thread Jay Lozier

On 11/29/2011 04:21 PM, Spencer Graves wrote:



  1.  LibreOffice Downloading Instructions mention an all_lang 
installer (www.libreoffice.org/download/instructions 
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/instructions/).  Is this an 
option that is not available with LibreOffice_3.4.4 for Windows (esp. 
Windows 7)?  If it is available, how can I find it?  (I remember 
previously having problems with multiple languages in LIbreOffice.)



I believe you want LibO_3.4.4_Win_x86_install_multi.exe for all languages.


  2.  Where can I find instructions on how to install multiple 
languages?  (When I installed 3.4.3, I spent a couple of days figuring 
all that out.  Unfortunately, I can't find them now.)



Sorry, I am not sure myself, try searching the list archives.

  Thanks,
  Spencer





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread Spencer Graves
I've had problems with getting proper positioning of images in a 
document with multiple columns.  I move things just a little, and the 
image may jump to some crazy place, e.g., swapping places with a line or 
covering up a footnote or jumping to a different column, etc .  I tried 
using a frame but found that the frame was too big and covered up some 
of my footnotes.  I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.3 under Windows 7.



  Spencer
p.s.  I tried installing LibreOffice 3.4.4 but couldn't remember how to 
do it with multiple language support, so I sent a question to this list 
on that.



On 11/29/2011 1:37 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think it might be worth posting a bug-report about this issue
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: James Finnallja...@finnall.net
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 29 November, 2011, 21:31
On 11/29/2011 03:20 PM, Cor Nouws
wrote:

Hi James,

James Finnall wrote (29-11-11 15:48)


For years with OpenOffice I was able to use a

document as template to

print my photos on 8 1/2x11 photo paper by

reloading the document and

simply replacing the images.

I think it was UBuntu version 11 that changed me

over to LibreOffice.

Argh, nasty situation.
I remember a quite extensive discussion in

OpenOffice.org some year or so ago (don't over-ask my
memory) where the behaviour was discussed what to do when an
image is selected and a new image is inserted. And that in
Writer, Impress/Draw, Calc.

And indeed, it was about: should a newly inserted

image replace the selected one or be added alongside.

So no doubt, that the change you experience is a

result of what has been discussed then.

I think, without real code work, there is little

relief for you...

But maybe the behaviour in Draw is different (I'm

afraid not...)

Hmm, it would not be too difficult to write a macro to

do the changes for you. Maybe that's an idea?

Kind regards,


So it sounds like their discussion ended with Just don't
do anything!

It has been awhile since I had to print any photos, but it
seemed to me that I would select the old image and
Insert-Picture- From File on the menu and then
select the new image file to use.  It would then
replace the image with the new image.  When doing
repeat operations of even small images, I could do the first
image and resize, etc then copy/paste as many as needed and
locate on paper. Then load a new image into each one. 
But I have not been able to replace any images since

LibreOffice installation.  (LibreOffice Version 3.4.4
with Ubuntu 11.10)

It is difficult for me to believe I am the only one that
desires this operation.

Thank you for your response.
James


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread Pedro
Hello James

Using LO 3.4.4 under Windows XP I can simply open the image in any image
viewer (or even LO Draw) and then Copy the image, select the precisely
formatted image in LO Writer and simply Paste. This will replace the
previous image and apply the size and position to the pasted image.

Doesn't it work this way in Ubuntu?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread Cor Nouws

Tom Davies wrote (29-11-11 22:37)

Hi :)
I think it might be worth posting a bug-report about this issue


Without a clear picture/discussion ... I doubt.
Pls mind that the change was decided upon in a long discussion.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Spencer,

It's better to start with a new mail if you have a new question.
In that way, discussions do not get mixed up and it's easier to follow / 
give good advises


Spencer Graves wrote (29-11-11 23:09)

I've had problems with getting proper positioning of images in a
[...]



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread Cor Nouws

James Finnall wrote (29-11-11 22:31)


So it sounds like their discussion ended with Just don't do anything!


No, they made a change.


It has been awhile since I had to print any photos, but it seemed to me
that I would select the old image and Insert-Picture-From File on
the menu and then select the new image file to use. It would then
replace the image with the new image. When doing repeat operations of
[..]


Yes, that was the behaviour you described and that has been changed, as 
I tried to explain.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread Cor Nouws

Pedro wrote (29-11-11 23:51)


Using LO 3.4.4 under Windows XP I can simply open the image in any image
viewer (or even LO Draw) and then Copy the image, select the precisely
formatted image in LO Writer and simply Paste. This will replace the
previous image and apply the size and position to the pasted image.

Doesn't it work this way in Ubuntu?


It does, Interesting solution - thanks :-)
Mind that for me it only works if I use paste special  as Bitmap.

Cheers,


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Localization of macros

2011-11-29 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
From what I have seen on the dev list, unless you are actively fixing 
bugs (or similar), don't bother them. I don't mean that they are evil 
incarnate, just that the list claimed to be for that and only for that 
and they will either mention that to you or simply ignore your request.


That said, perhaps there is another dev mailing list of which I am not 
aware, but would like to be aware. Please enlighten me if this is so.


On 11/29/2011 10:08 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
It might be worth asking the Devs list about this perhaps?  I suspect it's slightly 
over the heads of most of us.  There are a few devs or almost devs here but 
not many.  I would guess that the 'local' teams might have a similar issue.

It is usually good to ask any questions here first and then maybe we can either 
answer directly or point people to other resources where they might get a 
better answer.
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Leif Lodahlleiflod...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Localization of macros
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 29 November, 2011, 8:37
Hi all,
I often need to have text strings other that dialog labels.
This can be
error messages, status line messages and msgbox() text.

Does anyone here has experience with developing localizable
macros?

It is possible to localize dialogs, the but is there a some
kind of best
practice method to access these strings from a Basic
macro?

I have found a way to do it, but if there is an official
way of doing it, I
would like to hear about it.


Cheers,
Leif Lodahl

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Localization of macros

2011-11-29 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


On 11/29/2011 03:37 AM, Leif Lodahl wrote:

Hi all,
I often need to have text strings other that dialog labels. This can be
error messages, status line messages and msgbox() text.

Does anyone here has experience with developing localizable macros?

It is possible to localize dialogs, the but is there a some kind of best
practice method to access these strings from a Basic macro?

I have found a way to do it, but if there is an official way of doing it, I
would like to hear about it.


Cheers,
Leif Lodahl

I have only done this in extensions. I can send you an example if you 
desire. But... I need to take a dog out to go to the bathroom.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread MiguelAngel

El 30/11/11 0:04, Cor Nouws escribió:

Pedro wrote (29-11-11 23:51)


Using LO 3.4.4 under Windows XP I can simply open the image in any image
viewer (or even LO Draw) and then Copy the image, select the precisely
formatted image in LO Writer and simply Paste. This will replace the
previous image and apply the size and position to the pasted image.

Doesn't it work this way in Ubuntu?


It does, Interesting solution - thanks :-)
Mind that for me it only works if I use paste special  as Bitmap.

Cheers,




May tryin with this extension:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/ChangePicture

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Localization of macros

2011-11-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Oh :(  That is disappointing.  I hoped they would enjoy an occasional odd 
question :(
Apols and regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 29/11/11, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote:

 From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Localization of macros
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Tuesday, 29 November, 2011, 23:16
  From what I have seen on the dev
 list, unless you are actively fixing 
 bugs (or similar), don't bother them. I don't mean that they are evil 
 incarnate, just that the list claimed to be for that and only for that 
 and they will either mention that to you or simply ignore your request.
 
 That said, perhaps there is another dev mailing list of which I am not 
 aware, but would like to be aware. Please enlighten me if this is so.
 
 On 11/29/2011 10:08 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
  Hi :)
  It might be worth asking the Devs list about this
 perhaps?  I suspect it's slightly over the heads of
 most of us.  There are a few devs or almost devs here
 but not many.  I would guess that the 'local' teams
 might have a similar issue.
 
  It is usually good to ask any questions here first and
 then maybe we can either answer directly or point people to
 other resources where they might get a better answer.
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
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 wrote:
 
  From: Leif Lodahlleiflod...@gmail.com
  Subject: [libreoffice-users] Localization of
 macros
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Tuesday, 29 November, 2011, 8:37
  Hi all,
  I often need to have text strings other that dialog labels.
  This can be
  error messages, status line messages and msgbox() text.
 
  Does anyone here has experience with developing localizable
  macros?
 
  It is possible to localize dialogs, the but is there a some
  kind of best
  practice method to access these strings from a Basic
  macro?
 
  I have found a way to do it, but if there is an official
  way of doing it, I
  would like to hear about it.
 
 
  Cheers,
  Leif Lodahl
 
 
 
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 Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
 
 

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Printing Multiple Copies Duplex

2011-11-29 Thread Bruce Carlson
Hi,

I had the same problem recently. Or at least I think so. Correct me if I've
misunderstood your problem.

Only way I got around it was to create a second page on my document which
was an exact copy of the first page and then select print 2 copies and print
duplex. And selecting combine print jobs made no difference

It works but I'd also like to know if there is a better way because every
time I make a modification I have to do it to both pages.

It would be much better to be able to send 2 copies of one page to the
printer and get it to print duplex that is one copy on each side of the
paper.

Bruce Carlson


-Original Message-
From: Keith Bates [mailto:ke...@new-life.org.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2011 3:48 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Printing Multiple Copies Duplex

Hi list members.

I'm having trouble doing something that used to be easy and automatic.

I need to print multiple song sheets. They are in two columns printed
landscape. Each song sheet fits onto one A4 page. I print the copies back to
back then cut pages in half, giving me two sheets of A5 each containing
identical content.

In previous versions of LO this was straight forward. Set the number of
copies, set to print duplex.

In 3.4.4 I am finding that it sends each page out as a separate print job
even when I select the option to combine into a single job (under the
Options tab in the print dialog- it used to be under
Tools-Options-General-Print, I think). It happily prints a second blank
page on the back of the first so I get exactly what I don't want.

I also make sure that the option for printing extra blank pages is not
selected.

I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 if that helps.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing Multiple Copies Duplex

2011-11-29 Thread Keith Bates

Bruce,

That's exactly the problem, and I've used the same work around.

Mine is a bit more complicated than that as I edit the sheet each week, 
having a collection of songs saved that I cut and paste. So this week's 
songs are on page 1 of an 11 page document. That means I now have to 
remember to copy page 1 to page 2, deleting last week's page 1 or 2.


Previous versions of LO would let you send 2 copies of 1 page and print 
duplex. I can't make this work in 3.4.4


Keith

On 30/11/11 16:09, Bruce Carlson wrote:

Hi,

I had the same problem recently. Or at least I think so. Correct me if I've
misunderstood your problem.

Only way I got around it was to create a second page on my document which
was an exact copy of the first page and then select print 2 copies and print
duplex. And selecting combine print jobs made no difference

It works but I'd also like to know if there is a better way because every
time I make a modification I have to do it to both pages.

It would be much better to be able to send 2 copies of one page to the
printer and get it to print duplex that is one copy on each side of the
paper.

Bruce Carlson


-Original Message-
From: Keith Bates [mailto:ke...@new-life.org.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2011 3:48 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Printing Multiple Copies Duplex

Hi list members.

I'm having trouble doing something that used to be easy and automatic.

I need to print multiple song sheets. They are in two columns printed
landscape. Each song sheet fits onto one A4 page. I print the copies back to
back then cut pages in half, giving me two sheets of A5 each containing
identical content.

In previous versions of LO this was straight forward. Set the number of
copies, set to print duplex.

In 3.4.4 I am finding that it sends each page out as a separate print job
even when I select the option to combine into a single job (under the
Options tab in the print dialog- it used to be under
Tools-Options-General-Print, I think). It happily prints a second blank
page on the back of the first so I get exactly what I don't want.

I also make sure that the option for printing extra blank pages is not
selected.

I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 if that helps.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Replacing graphic images in documents

2011-11-29 Thread Steve Edmonds



On 11/30/2011 06:53 AM, Joe Conner wrote:

On 11/29/2011 6:48 AM, James Finnall wrote:

Hello List,

For years with OpenOffice I was able to use a document as template to 
print my photos on 8 1/2x11 photo paper by reloading the document 
and simply replacing the images.


I think it was UBuntu version 11 that changed me over to 
LibreOffice.  I have found that my documents seem to load and print 
just fine as they were originally saved.  But I have not been able to 
locate a method to replace the graphic images in a document, either 
by the top menu or by right clicking the image.


The only way I have found is to delete the image and then insert the 
new image from scratch!  This is most difficult for precise image 
size and placement.   I use a standard aspect on my camera (3:2) and 
have the image size for all four photos exactly the same.  They are 
also positioned to allow just a barely visible white line between the 
photos for cutting.  And the margins are set to be allowed on my 
printer without the images being cropped off.


To duplicate all these settings on every image is way too time 
consuming.  I need to be able to simply change the image in the four 
graphic entities without effecting size, placement or aspect ratio of 
the original image.


Anybody have any suggestions that I might try to replace the images 
of a document?


Thank you,
James



Have you tried to insert a frame, and then put your photo into it?
Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

Have you tried linking the images instead of embedding them. Call them 
1,2,3,4 and just copy over them with the new images each time.


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RE: [libreoffice-users] Printing Multiple Copies Duplex

2011-11-29 Thread Brian Barker

At 16:09 30/11/2011 +1100, Bruce Carlson wrote:
Only way I got around it was to create a second page on my document 
which was an exact copy of the first page and then select print 2 
copies and print duplex. And selecting combine print jobs made no 
difference.  It works but I'd also like to know if there is a better 
way because every time I make a modification I have to do it to both pages.


There may be a workaround for that.  Insert a section consisting of 
your first page.  On your second page, insert another section; on the 
Section tab of the Insert Section dialogue, tick Link and select the 
name of your first-page section from the drop-down list for 
Section.  Now any change to your first page will appear also in the 
copy on your second page: you need make each change only once.  You 
may need to use Tools | Update  | Links to force an update.


That's not to say it wouldn't be better if you didn't have to do this ...

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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RE: [libreoffice-users] French/English date

2011-11-29 Thread Brian Barker

At 23:38 29/11/2011 +1100, Bruce Carlson wrote:
It has bothered me for years but the correct long date format in 
English or at least English English is :- eg: Tuesday the 29th. of 
November, 2011. Note the correct use of articles, ordinals, commas 
and full stops... (the things Americans call periods.) No word 
processor or database application I have ever seen can format long 
dates correctly in English or any other language that I'm aware of 
and that is why I've written my own code and macros to format dates 
the way I was taught at school and while that was many many many 
years ago evolution is no excuse for inaccuracy. To format dates 
incorrectly seems to me to be an expedience, not an attempt at 
accuracy. Whilst we have for many years had to endure commercial 
applications written in one particular cultural style or another I 
believe open source is a very good opportunity to get localisations 
(notice the use of s and not zed) correct and if people from 
various cultures can contribute to this we will all be winners.


Sorry, but you were mis-taught at school.  What you write and what 
you see in written language does not always correspond exactly to 
what you say.  Yes: the way you say that date in British English may 
well be tuesday the twenty-ninth of november twenty eleven, but 
that doesn't mean that you have to express all of those sounds in 
writing.  Take, for example, your 2011.  If that were an account 
number, you would probably read and speak it as two oh one one (or 
possibly two zero one one) or two oh double one; if it were a 
plain number, you would say two thousand and eleven (USians would 
say two thousand eleven); as it is a date, you say twenty 
eleven.  (Well, I hope you do.)  You don't read 29th as two nine 
tee aitch or even as twenty-nine tee aitch, but as 
twenty-ninth.  Your telephone number may end one oh double six, 
but the battle of Hastings was in ten sixty-six: they are spoken 
differently but written the same.  James Bond wouldn't recognise 
zero zero seven.


The normal way of writing your date in British English is Tuesday 29 
November 2011, and you read this as tuesday the twenty-ninth of 
november twenty eleven.  But you are very welcome to format your 
dates exactly as you wish, of course - until you get a job where you 
are required to follow the accepted system.


Oh, and you don't put a full stop after 29th in any case: in 
British English usage there is no full stop if the end of the 
original is included in the abbreviation.  Prof. has a full stop, 
but Mr and Dr do not; Rev. has one but Revd does not.  Your 
primary school may well have got that wrong too.


There are plenty of authorities for all this, but you need to trust 
proper style guides, not primary school textbooks.  And there's a 
reason why you cannot find any product which follows your teachers' advice!


Brian Barker


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