Re: [libreoffice-users] Macro from command line: ThisComponent.CurrentController not found

2013-09-17 Thread Fernand Vanrie

On 16/09/2013 18:29, greyspammer wrote:

Hello!

I have a macro which I want to be executed whenever a Writer document is
being converted to a PDF. So I wrote my macro and assigned it to the
appropriate event. And it works. At least, from within a running
GUI-Session.

If I try to do the conversion via command line, I get this error message:
- snip -
BASIC runtime error.
Property or method not found: CurrentController
- snap -

The command I use to invoke LibreOffice is:
- snip -
lowriter --convert-to pdf:writer_pdf_Export  test.odt
- snap -

It is later planned to have it run in headless mode on a machine with no X
server, but I removed those options to get an error message.

I assume that in this mode, there is no CurrentController (because there
is no Writer window?) and hence, the error. But what can I do about it?
for printing to PDF i assume there must be a opened document (who can 
been hidden) as soon the document is open it becomes ThisComponent who 
has its CurrentController


Hope it helps

Fernand



Create one myself? How?

System is Kubuntu 13.04 with LibreOffice 4.0.2.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [DRAW] from A4 to A3, also objects OLE, how?

2013-09-17 Thread Brian Barker

At 08:58 17/09/2013 +0100, Manuel Songokuh wrote:
i did 35 pages with OLE (calc), but the page size is A4, now i need 
change page size to A3 but i want 2 OLE in 1 page (OLE from page 1 
and OLE from page 2 TO page 1 of A3 there is 2 ole inside of page 1 
A3) HO[]W[]?[]


i did try: i changed size from A4 to A3, this worked but i see that 
1 ole every unique page,why do not transferred 2 ole every unique page...?


You have discovered that drawings in LibreOffice (perhaps 
understandably) behave differently from text documents.  Whereas text 
flows naturally from one page to another in a text (Writer) document, 
material in a drawing (Draw) document is positioned in individual 
slides and does not flow between them.  The moral, of course, is that 
you need to decide on your final format before positioning material.


But there may be a workaround.  You appear now to want to print the 
A4 images on A3 sheets.  LibreOffice has a brochure facility which 
enables you to print images in this way - combining two slides onto 
one page and automatically positioning them so that a resulting stack 
of double-sided A3 sheets will fold into a correctly ordered A4 
booklet with one of your A4 images on each page.


o Return your slide format to A4 and Portrait.
o Print your document with your printer settings at A3 and Landscape.
o To create a brochure, either go to Tools | Options... | LibreOffice 
Draw | Print | Page options and select Brochure, or (on the fly) in 
the Print dialogue, select Options... | Page options | Brochure.


Even if you don't want the slides ordered as for a brochure, you may 
be able to print parts of the document to create the required effect, 
possibly by saving parts of your document as separate documents.  If 
possible, you may wish to install a virtual PDF printer (freeware 
versions are available), so that you can practise to see what happens 
without wasting your nice A3 paper.  Note that LibreOffice's own 
Export as PDF... facility cannot help you here, as this does not 
respect the brochure concept.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] [DRAW] from A4 to A3, also objects OLE, how?

2013-09-17 Thread manuel_songokuh
hello

i'm understand what your help, thank you
but from site libreoffice havent this information help... need add new cool 
information with images and illustrators ok?
then i close here becuase resolved from thanks you!!




 Da: Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com
A: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Inviato: Martedì 17 Settembre 2013 13:33
Oggetto: Re: [libreoffice-users] [DRAW] from A4 to A3, also objects OLE, how?
 

At 08:58 17/09/2013 +0100, Manuel Songokuh wrote:
i did 35 pages with OLE (calc), but the page size is A4, now i need 
change page size to A3 but i want 2 OLE in 1 page (OLE from page 1 
and OLE from page 2 TO page 1 of A3 there is 2 ole inside of page 1 
A3) HO[]W[]?[]

i did try: i changed size from A4 to A3, this worked but i see that 
1 ole every unique page,why do not transferred 2 ole every unique page...?

You have discovered that drawings in LibreOffice (perhaps 
understandably) behave differently from text documents.  Whereas text 
flows naturally from one page to another in a text (Writer) document, 
material in a drawing (Draw) document is positioned in individual 
slides and does not flow between them.  The moral, of course, is that 
you need to decide on your final format before positioning material.

But there may be a workaround.  You appear now to want to print the 
A4 images on A3 sheets.  LibreOffice has a brochure facility which 
enables you to print images in this way - combining two slides onto 
one page and automatically positioning them so that a resulting stack 
of double-sided A3 sheets will fold into a correctly ordered A4 
booklet with one of your A4 images on each page.

o Return your slide format to A4 and Portrait.
o Print your document with your printer settings at A3 and Landscape.
o To create a brochure, either go to Tools | Options... | LibreOffice 
Draw | Print | Page options and select Brochure, or (on the fly) in 
the Print dialogue, select Options... | Page options | Brochure.

Even if you don't want the slides ordered as for a brochure, you may 
be able to print parts of the document to create the required effect, 
possibly by saving parts of your document as separate documents.  If 
possible, you may wish to install a virtual PDF printer (freeware 
versions are available), so that you can practise to see what happens 
without wasting your nice A3 paper.  Note that LibreOffice's own 
Export as PDF... facility cannot help you here, as this does not 
respect the brochure concept.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] [HOW] impagination like a BOOK?

2013-09-17 Thread manuel_songokuh
hello

i need other help:

i'm hard to explain here words but i show you link:
http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/248-ubuntu-imposition-print-book

there is feature for libreoffice? if YES then how do for libreoffice?
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Re: [libreoffice-users] [HOW] impagination like a BOOK?

2013-09-17 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 09/17/2013 08:40 AM, manuel_songo...@yahoo.it wrote:
 hello

 i need other help:

 i'm hard to explain here words but i show you link:
 http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/248-ubuntu-imposition-print-book

 there is feature for libreoffice? if YES then how do for libreoffice?


I have not looked into that in a few years.

There was talk about an extension for OOo and LO that would do this.

Then there was some talk about some Windows printer drivers that had
this option as part of the printer's package.

Just to be clear, to help us figure out what is needed. . . . .

First - how many pages are you planning on printing in this
impositionor book format?

Second - Do you want to use tabloid size paper [11 x 17] and print the
pages as letter size [8.5 x 11], or the equivalent for double A4 size
paper to A4 pages.

Or are you going to use letter or other smaller size sheets to make
smaller size booklets.  There are some references to booklet and
other names for multi-sheet bound documents in some of my Ubuntu 12.04
printer drivers.

I will have to check my Windows systems to see if one of the printers,
maybe the large format one, has the booklet option available to use. 
That should print out the pages in some type of order that may be what
you want.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [HOW] impagination like a BOOK?

2013-09-17 Thread Brian Barker

At 13:40 17/09/2013 +0100, Manuel Songokuh wrote:
I'm hard to explain here words but i show you link: 
http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/248-ubuntu-imposition-print-book 
there is feature for libreoffice?


Yes: LibreOffice does this very efficiently.  It's weird that this 
web page suggests an exceedingly complicated way of doing what 
LibreOffice does natively!



if YES then how do for libreoffice?


That's exactly the brochure facility that I described in response 
to your previous enquiry.


To print an A5 booklet on (folded) A4 paper:
o Set your page format in LibreOffice Writer to A5 and Portrait - so 
it is the actual format that you want in the finished document.
o Set your printer's settings to A4 and Landscape - as the printing 
will actually be.

o Either:
Tick Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Writer | Print | Pages | Brochure
Or (on the fly):
In the Print dialogue, tick Options... | Pages | Brochure.

As before, if possible install a (freeware?) virtual PDF printer, so 
that you can experiment with the technique without wasting paper.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] [HOW] impagination like a BOOK?

2013-09-17 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 09/17/2013 09:12 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
 At 13:40 17/09/2013 +0100, Manuel Songokuh wrote:
 I'm hard to explain here words but i show you link:
 http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/248-ubuntu-imposition-print-book
 there is feature for libreoffice?

 Yes: LibreOffice does this very efficiently.  It's weird that this web
 page suggests an exceedingly complicated way of doing what LibreOffice
 does natively!

 if YES then how do for libreoffice?

 That's exactly the brochure facility that I described in response to
 your previous enquiry.

 To print an A5 booklet on (folded) A4 paper:
 o Set your page format in LibreOffice Writer to A5 and Portrait - so
 it is the actual format that you want in the finished document.
 o Set your printer's settings to A4 and Landscape - as the printing
 will actually be.
 o Either:
 Tick Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Writer | Print | Pages | Brochure
 Or (on the fly):
 In the Print dialogue, tick Options... | Pages | Brochure.

 As before, if possible install a (freeware?) virtual PDF printer, so
 that you can experiment with the technique without wasting paper.

 I trust this helps.

 Brian Barker



Brian
The free virtual printers I have used are the following. . .

CUPS-PDF for Linux [Ubuntu 10.04 - 12.04]
doPDF for Windows [XP - Win7]

They seem to be the best ones I have tried.

So as for the brochure setting,  it will print out the pages in the
proper order over the, say, 20+ pages of a booklet?

I do not have duplexing on my wide format printer, so I would have to do
this the hard way for Tabloid or A5 paper to get Letter or A4 pages. 
How easy is it to do the process using a manual feed paper option?

--

I know that I had a printer, once, that has a booklet page printing in
its software package, driver and utilities, for Windows.  It was built
into the printer's system so you did not need a software package, Word,
OOo, LO, etc., to have that option built in.

-


My printer goes up to 13 x 19 inches or 330mm x 483mm[?].  I found out
[to late] that the next model up in the series did duplexing, but is
would have been another $20 US dollars to buy.  This printer was almost
50% off for the sale.  HP Officejet 7000 wide format printer.

My Canon MG6200 printer does duplexing very well, but it is an A4 or
Letter size printer.  My HP Laserjet 2300dn has jamming issues with the
duplexing of more than one sheet of paper.  More than half the time, if
I print more than one double sized sheet of paper, I get paper jams
since it tries to both tries to print on the second side of the sheet
and also feeds the next sheet at the same time.  This may be a software
or hardware issue.  I decided not to worry about it and just print one
duplexed sheet at a time on that laser printer or just use the Canon
inkjet for a large page count duplexed document.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] [HOW] impagination like a BOOK?

2013-09-17 Thread Brian Barker

At 09:31 17/09/2013 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote:

On 09/17/2013 09:12 AM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 13:40 17/09/2013 +0100, Manuel Songokuh wrote:
I'm hard to explain here words but i show you link: 
http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/248-ubuntu-imposition-print-book 
there is feature for libreoffice?


That's exactly the brochure facility that I described in response 
to your previous enquiry.


So as for the brochure setting, it will print out the pages in the 
proper order over the, say, 20+ pages of a booklet?


Of course.  Didn't you try it?

I do not have duplexing on my wide format printer, so I would have 
to do this the hard way for Tabloid or A5 paper to get Letter or 
A4 pages. How easy is it to do the process using a manual feed paper option?


Probably depends on the precise details of the printer and driver and 
platform - er, and user?!  But it should be very easy to test.  If 
you are printing on Letter paper, why are you thinking wide format?


My Canon MG6200 printer does duplexing very well, but it is an A4 or 
Letter size printer.


If (as is often the case - and as was described at the web site 
referred to) you want an A5 or half Letter brochure, that's exactly 
what you'd need.  Providing you set the printer orientation to 
Landscape, you should be able to feed the paper whichever way it normally goes.


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] [HOW] impagination like a BOOK?

2013-09-17 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 09/17/2013 10:32 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
 At 09:31 17/09/2013 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote:
 On 09/17/2013 09:12 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
 At 13:40 17/09/2013 +0100, Manuel Songokuh wrote:
 I'm hard to explain here words but i show you link:
 http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/248-ubuntu-imposition-print-book
 there is feature for libreoffice?

 That's exactly the brochure facility that I described in response
 to your previous enquiry.

 So as for the brochure setting, it will print out the pages in the
 proper order over the, say, 20+ pages of a booklet?

 Of course.  Didn't you try it?

 I do not have duplexing on my wide format printer, so I would have to
 do this the hard way for Tabloid or A5 paper to get Letter or A4
 pages. How easy is it to do the process using a manual feed paper
 option?

 Probably depends on the precise details of the printer and driver and
 platform - er, and user?!  But it should be very easy to test.  If you
 are printing on Letter paper, why are you thinking wide format?

 My Canon MG6200 printer does duplexing very well, but it is an A4 or
 Letter size printer.

 If (as is often the case - and as was described at the web site
 referred to) you want an A5 or half Letter brochure, that's exactly
 what you'd need.  Providing you set the printer orientation to
 Landscape, you should be able to feed the paper whichever way it
 normally goes.

 Brian Barker



To be honest, I have not needed to make a booklet lately, maybe for 2
years.  I have tried the printing of Tabloid [double Letter] in
Landscape with the pages in Letter/Portrait.  But I have not tried the
booklet.  The last work I did was a 4 Letter page [one Tabloid sheet]
document that I had to manually duplex.  Needed only about a dozen
copies.  I also used print page option to print out the proper page
order on the sheet, like I always did with PageMaker 7.

But it is good to know that if I needed to do 2 or more sheets of
Tabloid paper, it will be easily done.

One reason I did not test it on my tabloid paper, was the price of the
paper itself.  It is hard to find it locally, so I usually have to order
it online.  I can never find the 13x19 inch paper, so it is also an
online purchase.  Shipping costs or paper can be expensive, when I
cannot get a deal on shipping from the paper [or office supply] site.  I
just received my first batch of pastel colored paper in Tabloid size,
so I could use that paper instead of Letter size paper with a staple or
two.  I also have a stock of photo paper in all sized from 4x6 to 13x19
inches, except 5x7 inch.  I do some photo/poster printing for people.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Macro from command line: ThisComponent.CurrentController not found

2013-09-17 Thread greyspammer
A user who could not post directly to the list because he was using his phone
with a non-matching e-mail address asked me why I was using
CurrentController. I think I better write the answer to the list so everyone
can participate.

The macro is rather complex. The documents are invoices containing text
table with a list of items and their prices. They are created by a
third-party program. I supply a template and the program fills in the data
from its database.

Now, it can happen that the table with the items is longer than one page
(even longer than two or three) pages. The macro will detect this and split
the table at those places, adding a subtotal to the foot of each page and a
carry over on the start of the next page. I plan to add this macro to the
template so that it automatically executes when a PDF is generated.

Example: The document I get looks like this (I hope the layout survives ;)):

- snip -

- snap -

After the macro is done, the document looks like this:

- snip -

- snap -

As you can see, it's pretty complex and due to the lack of documentation,
the only way to achieve this result was to replicate the steps I would
otherwise do manually. That means getting a view cursor (which is a part of
the current controller). Then I use my view cursor to do the stuff. I put it
in the last column of the first row. Then I go down cell by cell, summing up
values on way. Until the page changes. Then I go back up, insert subtotal
and carry over and finally split the table between them.

If there is another way to do it without CurrentController, I have not found
it.

If it helps, I can post the macro but it's a bit lengthy...



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[libreoffice-users] Draw's capacity was reduced after 4.1.1.2 and became very low after the last Win 8 update

2013-09-17 Thread mxkuzn
Hello, I am trying to use Draw for creating pictures having large number of
simple objects, up to several thousands of them per file. To give you some
idea, think of the games of go or checkers. 

Yesterday I was able to keep several such files open at the same time (I
knew if I opened too many files LO would die with generalized diagnostics
message, and this started happening only after I installed LO 4.1.1.2). 

Today, after installing the latest Windows update, I found that I could
hardly open only one of those files. I really thought I lost it. Fortunately
it opened after I closed everything else. 

Attempting to open a second file at first I saw an empty window with moving
green progress indicator bar.  At some moment the window would silently
disappear. 

The moment of disappearance apparently depended on the size of the open
file. I found that I was able to open two small files. The bigger was the
first file, the sooner the process opening the second file would die.  

I have the latest JRE (1.7.0_40). Increasing LO's memory settings did not
change anything.

Update: 

I can now tell that the same crush happens as I add the objects to the
drawing. Working with a file I copied around 200 objects at once and tried
to past them. The window silently disappeared (another one opened at this
time survived).

Apparently I saw the number of objects (or some other parameter) restricted
two times: first in LO 4.1.1.2 (but at least I was receiving diagnostic
message and was able to recover the file), next with the latest update of
Windows 8, and this time it got bad. 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [HOW] impagination like a BOOK?

2013-09-17 Thread Brian Barker

At 11:10 17/09/2013 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote:
One reason I did not test it on my tabloid paper, was the price of 
the paper itself.


Oh, indeed - and that's why I earlier suggested trials using a 
virtual PDF printer: you can see how the results work without 
expending any paper.


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Macro from command line: ThisComponent.CurrentController not found

2013-09-17 Thread Andrew Pitonyak
Hopefully this will make it back top the list, Good call responding to the 
list

I believe that you cannot have a view cursor unless you have a display. Some 
work was done to improve things like maybe it will work if you load the 
document and then hide it But that is a long shot. Off hand I don't think 
that you can understand much related to position such add page number without a 
view. All of the other cursors so not provide this information.

After saying that... I expect that PDF export needs a way to understand page 
numbers and it sounds like you can do that without a view... So perhaps I am 
mistaken. My best guess is that it only matters of page numbers are displayed 
in the document and that uses field which should have a display value stored 
but not updated without the view.

Not sure is this helps...


greyspammer greyspam...@postino.ch wrote:

A user who could not post directly to the list because he was using his phone
with a non-matching e-mail address asked me why I was using
CurrentController. I think I better write the answer to the list so everyone
can participate.

The macro is rather complex. The documents are invoices containing text
table with a list of items and their prices. They are created by a
third-party program. I supply a template and the program fills in the data
from its database.

Now, it can happen that the table with the items is longer than one page
(even longer than two or three) pages. The macro will detect this and split
the table at those places, adding a subtotal to the foot of each page and a
carry over on the start of the next page. I plan to add this macro to the
template so that it automatically executes when a PDF is generated.

Example: The document I get looks like this (I hope the layout survives ;)):

- snip -

- snap -

After the macro is done, the document looks like this:

- snip -

- snap -

As you can see, it's pretty complex and due to the lack of documentation,
the only way to achieve this result was to replicate the steps I would
otherwise do manually. That means getting a view cursor (which is a part of
the current controller). Then I use my view cursor to do the stuff. I put it
in the last column of the first row. Then I go down cell by cell, summing up
values on way. Until the page changes. Then I go back up, insert subtotal
and carry over and finally split the table between them.

If there is another way to do it without CurrentController, I have not found
it.

If it helps, I can post the macro but it's a bit lengthy...



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation

2013-09-17 Thread Virgil Arrington

On 09/15/2013 11:24 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

OK, I went to Synaptic Package Manager and looked up libhyphen.

It was there as part of the Ubuntu packages.
Maybe Mint did not install that package.

So go to your package manager and look up and install that Debian
package and see if that helps.
My package was labeled libhyphen0.

Looking up hyphen, I have the following [but not the entire list]
installed:
hyphen-en-us
libhyphen0
openoffice.org-hyphenation

So go that route.
Look up the packages in you package manager - I prefer to use Synaptic
which Ubuntu no longer installs by default.  Then install them there.

You might fix some of your issues.

As I stated, Mint and I had problems with one if my network printers -
it did not exist on the network - but would use it as a USB printer.
Had no issues with Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04.




Okay, here's what I've done.

1. I searched Synaptic for libhyphen and found the same files you 
mentioned. Yet, LO doesn't recognize it.


2. I then uninstalled my Linux Mint. It was no big deal as I had a Bible 
research program that wouldn't work with it anyway. (I won't necessarily 
blame Mint, but I didn't want to have to chase down two Mint problems)


3. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS using the Wubi installer. That installed 
LO 3.5.x by default. (The Bible research program also worked.)


4. I checked LO 3.5.x, under Options/Language Settings/Writing Aids/ and 
it had the Hunspell spellcheck module, but it did not have any modules 
for Hyphenation, Grammar, or Thesaurus.


5. I then upgraded LO to 4.0.4.2 using the 
ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0 repository. That was a little weird as 
I followed online instructions for upgrading to 4.0.5, but the closest I 
got was 4.0.4.2. Oh, well.


6. I then installed the American English dictionary from the dictionary 
extensions.


7. Once that was installed, I gained the OpenOffice Thesaurus module, 
but still no Hyphenation or Grammar Checker modules.


8. Using Synaptic, I found all the same files you listed on your system.

9. Out of curiosity, I then noticed the packages listed at 
https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0. It 
mentions the hunspell package and, immediately after, a hyphen 
package (version 2.8.3-1~lucid1), but no libhyphen package. At this 
point, I'm waaa out of my techno comfort zone.


This has become a real head scratcher for me. For my actual work, I'm 
still booting into Windows, but the OCD side of me wants to figure this out.


Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Draw's capacity was reduced after 4.1.1.2 and became very low after the last Win 8 update

2013-09-17 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi.
On 2013-09-18 02:47, mxkuzn wrote:

Hello, I am trying to use Draw for creating pictures having large number of
simple objects, up to several thousands of them per file. To give you some
idea, think of the games of go or checkers.

Yesterday I was able to keep several such files open at the same time (I
knew if I opened too many files LO would die with generalized diagnostics
message, and this started happening only after I installed LO 4.1.1.2).

Today, after installing the latest Windows update, I found that I could
hardly open only one of those files. I really thought I lost it. Fortunately
it opened after I closed everything else.

Attempting to open a second file at first I saw an empty window with moving
green progress indicator bar.  At some moment the window would silently
disappear.

The moment of disappearance apparently depended on the size of the open
file. I found that I was able to open two small files. The bigger was the
first file, the sooner the process opening the second file would die.

I have the latest JRE (1.7.0_40). Increasing LO's memory settings did not
change anything.

Update:

I can now tell that the same crush happens as I add the objects to the
drawing. Working with a file I copied around 200 objects at once and tried
to past them. The window silently disappeared (another one opened at this
time survived).

Apparently I saw the number of objects (or some other parameter) restricted
two times: first in LO 4.1.1.2 (but at least I was receiving diagnostic
message and was able to recover the file), next with the latest update of
Windows 8, and this time it got bad.
I am still using LO 3.6, but can open documents with more than 2 
objects. Have you looked at the memory settings under 
OptionsLibreofficeMemory.

Steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation

2013-09-17 Thread Virgil Arrington
Unless anyone else is bothered by this behavior in the Linux LO, I'm letting 
it go.


I just uninstalled my Ubuntu wubi install. I'm going to leave it for a while 
before trying again. My Windows LO works fine, and so for now, I'll stay 
here. I have another life I have to live.


Thanks to all who were interested in this issue.

Virgil

-Original Message- 
From: Virgil Arrington

Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:28 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation

On 09/15/2013 11:24 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

OK, I went to Synaptic Package Manager and looked up libhyphen.

It was there as part of the Ubuntu packages.
Maybe Mint did not install that package.

So go to your package manager and look up and install that Debian
package and see if that helps.
My package was labeled libhyphen0.

Looking up hyphen, I have the following [but not the entire list]
installed:
hyphen-en-us
libhyphen0
openoffice.org-hyphenation

So go that route.
Look up the packages in you package manager - I prefer to use Synaptic
which Ubuntu no longer installs by default.  Then install them there.

You might fix some of your issues.

As I stated, Mint and I had problems with one if my network printers -
it did not exist on the network - but would use it as a USB printer.
Had no issues with Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04.




Okay, here's what I've done.

1. I searched Synaptic for libhyphen and found the same files you
mentioned. Yet, LO doesn't recognize it.

2. I then uninstalled my Linux Mint. It was no big deal as I had a Bible
research program that wouldn't work with it anyway. (I won't necessarily
blame Mint, but I didn't want to have to chase down two Mint problems)

3. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS using the Wubi installer. That installed
LO 3.5.x by default. (The Bible research program also worked.)

4. I checked LO 3.5.x, under Options/Language Settings/Writing Aids/ and
it had the Hunspell spellcheck module, but it did not have any modules
for Hyphenation, Grammar, or Thesaurus.

5. I then upgraded LO to 4.0.4.2 using the
ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0 repository. That was a little weird as
I followed online instructions for upgrading to 4.0.5, but the closest I
got was 4.0.4.2. Oh, well.

6. I then installed the American English dictionary from the dictionary
extensions.

7. Once that was installed, I gained the OpenOffice Thesaurus module,
but still no Hyphenation or Grammar Checker modules.

8. Using Synaptic, I found all the same files you listed on your system.

9. Out of curiosity, I then noticed the packages listed at
https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0. It
mentions the hunspell package and, immediately after, a hyphen
package (version 2.8.3-1~lucid1), but no libhyphen package. At this
point, I'm waaa out of my techno comfort zone.

This has become a real head scratcher for me. For my actual work, I'm
still booting into Windows, but the OCD side of me wants to figure this out.

Virgil

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Draw's capacity was reduced after 4.1.1.2 and became very low after the last Win 8 update

2013-09-17 Thread mxkuzn
I certainly did try memory settings, and I mentioned it.
I am playing with LO right now.
Apparently it goes down the sink at 3000 objects.
Yes, it was not doing this before.
The very same files were OK just couple days ago.


Thank you for your input!



On 9/17/2013 3:02 PM, steveedmonds [via Document Foundation Mail 
Archive] wrote:
 Hi.
 On 2013-09-18 02:47, mxkuzn wrote:

  Hello, I am trying to use Draw for creating pictures having large 
 number of
  simple objects, up to several thousands of them per file. To give 
 you some
  idea, think of the games of go or checkers.
 
  Yesterday I was able to keep several such files open at the same 
 time (I
  knew if I opened too many files LO would die with generalized 
 diagnostics
  message, and this started happening only after I installed LO 4.1.1.2).
 
  Today, after installing the latest Windows update, I found that I could
  hardly open only one of those files. I really thought I lost it. 
 Fortunately
  it opened after I closed everything else.
 
  Attempting to open a second file at first I saw an empty window with 
 moving
  green progress indicator bar.  At some moment the window would silently
  disappear.
 
  The moment of disappearance apparently depended on the size of the open
  file. I found that I was able to open two small files. The bigger 
 was the
  first file, the sooner the process opening the second file would die.
 
  I have the latest JRE (1.7.0_40). Increasing LO's memory settings 
 did not
  change anything.
 
  Update:
 
  I can now tell that the same crush happens as I add the objects to the
  drawing. Working with a file I copied around 200 objects at once and 
 tried
  to past them. The window silently disappeared (another one opened at 
 this
  time survived).
 
  Apparently I saw the number of objects (or some other parameter) 
 restricted
  two times: first in LO 4.1.1.2 (but at least I was receiving diagnostic
  message and was able to recover the file), next with the latest 
 update of
  Windows 8, and this time it got bad.
 I am still using LO 3.6, but can open documents with more than 2
 objects. Have you looked at the memory settings under
 OptionsLibreofficeMemory.
 Steve

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[libreoffice-users] Sections are driving me nuts

2013-09-17 Thread John Jason Jordan
I have LO 3.5.7.2 on Xubuntu 12.04. I am creating a document that has
18 pages of front matter, after which I want to start page numbering (I
don't need numbers on the front matter). I want page 19 to be numbered
page 1.

Something seems to have happened between the last version of LO that I
used and this one. Now there are always a default footer and header that
appear when I mouse over them.

Page 21 starts with Chapter 1 centered at the top of the page. I
placed the cursor in front of it and entered a section. However, doing
so added a line break so that Chapter 1 is now on the second line. If
I delete the line break apparently it deletes the section marker. I'm
not sure of this, however, because I can't find a way to make section
markers visible. It might still be there, because if I try to insert a
section it shows Section 1 and assumes I want to label the new one
Section 2.

And assuming I can figure out how to enter a section without an added
line feed, or that my section is still there, how can I create a footer
that exists only in that section? And how do I enter a page number in
the footer with a -18 offset, because I already tried that and it won't
accept a negative number?

I tried the Help but it didn't explain any of these things. E.g., for
page number offset it just says enter the number for the offset - not
a word about negative numbers. 

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Re: [libreoffice-users]

2013-09-17 Thread Paul
Hi Tom,

I use Meld (and have used a few others). Haven't used it (or any of the
others) for LO or MS Office files, though.

It's pretty good for plain text files like config files or source code.
I've used it on generated files before (Visual Studio form files), and
it was helpful, but blocks of text that were the same tended to be
moved around arbitrarily, and showed up as differences in the file. I'm
not sure how much of a problem that would be with LO source files, but
in theory it should be helpful for determining if two copies of a file
are different, and by how much. That might allow you to determine which
version is more recent, that sort of thing.

Ideally I suppose one would want an LO viewer that allowed one to load
two files side-by-side, and scroll them in tandem. Maybe even have
differences, additions and deletions highlighted. A custom LO diff
tool, essentially. But short of that, something like Meld is probably
going to be useful.

Paul



On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:54:53 +0100 (BST)
Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 Has anyone used Meld 
 
 http://meldmerge.org/
 to compare ODF documents (or ones using an MS format).  From their
 screen-shots it looks great for text-editors and might be fantastic
 if it does work for ODF.  
 
 Just wondered 
 
 a)  if anyone had tried it and 
 
 b)  if anyone thought it might be better to have an external tool
 that compared a wide range of  file-typesrather than just relying on
 different in-built ones in  different programs.  
 
 Regards from 
 
 Tom :)  


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Draw's capacity was reduced after 4.1.1.2 and became very low after the last Win 8 update

2013-09-17 Thread mxkuzn
Just reset Draw template to default one, opened new file and created 1000
0.12 filled circles (changed the filling color from the default one).
Arranged them into rectangle 25x40. 

Copied and pasted the whole thing 2 times - that's 3000. It worked. Pasted
one more time, tried to save. Got LO has stopped working (from Windows).
Successfully recovered (all 4000) circles, was able to save and reopen the
file correctly. 

Opened new Draw page, copied and pasted another 1000 (5000 total count),
tried to save - LO died with the same Windows message. Recovered, and the
new page was not there.

I have Thinkpad W510, Windows 8/64, fully updated. LO Version: 4.1.1.2.
Memory settings:

Number of steps - 25

Use for LibreOffice: 200MB
Memory per object: 1.0MB

File size (compressed) 30K.

And, once again,I started having this problem in 4.1.1.2 and it became
strangling after the latest windows update.  _trying_to_break_it_01.odg
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4074556/_trying_to_break_it_01.odg 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Sections are driving me nuts

2013-09-17 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:50:11 -0700
John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net dijo:

I have LO 3.5.7.2 on Xubuntu 12.04. I am creating a document that has
18 pages of front matter, after which I want to start page numbering (I
don't need numbers on the front matter). I want page 19 to be numbered
page 1.

OK, I figured out that the footer is turned on in the page style.
That's cool, because I want a left and right page style anyway. I
modified the default left and right page styles to turn on the footer.

Then I applied the right page style to page 19 and the left page style
to page 20, after which I noticed that Writer had thoughtfully applied
right and left page styles to all the remaining pages in the document.
Cool.

Unfortunately, Writer also applied right and left page styles to the
first 18 pages also, so they now have the footer on them as well. I
don't want the footer on the first 18 pages. So I applied Default page
style to the first page, after which I noted that Writer had
thoughtfully applied default to page 2, and 3, and 4 ... and continuing
to the end of the document. No! I want only pages 1 - 18 to have the
Default page style. So I went to page 19 and reapplied right page, and
to page 20 and applied left page, and again Writer applied them to the
first 18 pages as well.

After some poking around I discovered that is controlled by the
Organizer tab, where you stipulate the following style. Unfortunately,
the selection is a drop-down that contains only the styles that
currently exist. You must choose one of them. There is no None of the
above option. Whatever you select, as soon as you apply that page
style to a page the style specified in the Organizer for the next page
will automatically be applied to the end of the document. 

What this boils down to is that all the pages in your document must
always be the same style. 

Should I just give up on Writer for this project?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Draw's capacity was reduced after 4.1.1.2 and became very low after the last Win 8 update

2013-09-17 Thread Paul
Hi mxkuzn,

I can verify your findings. I am running LO 4.1.1.2 on Windows 7 64bit.
I tried creating a 25x40 grid of filled circles, 0.3cmx0.3cm. This
worked, and I could save. I copied this grid onto a new page, so 2000
circles, and I could save. I copied this onto another new page, so 3000
circles, and when I tried to save, LO crashed. Consistantly, saving at
or above 3000 circles crashes LO, and recovery does not get it back. I
can create more than 3000 circles, I went all the way up to 20 pages,
so 2 circles, and apart from each successive paste getting slower
and slower, up to almost 10 seconds per paste, there was no sign of
crashes, until I tried to save. This is a relatively fresh, and
default, install, and I haven't played with any memory settings. I have
no idea if this would work for me on previous versions of LO, I've
never tried anything like it.

 To give you some idea, think of the games of go or checkers.
I play Go. I was wondering what you are trying to do; I can't think of
anything Go related that would require that many items.

Regards

Paul


On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:33:22 -0700 (PDT)
mxkuzn mxk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just reset Draw template to default one, opened new file and created
 1000 0.12 filled circles (changed the filling color from the default
 one). Arranged them into rectangle 25x40. 
 
 Copied and pasted the whole thing 2 times - that's 3000. It worked.
 Pasted one more time, tried to save. Got LO has stopped
 working (from Windows). Successfully recovered (all 4000) circles,
 was able to save and reopen the file correctly. 
 
 Opened new Draw page, copied and pasted another 1000 (5000 total
 count), tried to save - LO died with the same Windows message.
 Recovered, and the new page was not there.
 
 I have Thinkpad W510, Windows 8/64, fully updated. LO Version:
 4.1.1.2. Memory settings:
 
 Number of steps - 25
 
 Use for LibreOffice: 200MB
 Memory per object: 1.0MB
 
 File size (compressed) 30K.
 
 And, once again,I started having this problem in 4.1.1.2 and it became
 strangling after the latest windows update.
 _trying_to_break_it_01.odg
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4074556/_trying_to_break_it_01.odg
   
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Draw's capacity was reduced after 4.1.1.2 and became very low after the last Win 8 update

2013-09-17 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi.
I just saved 17000 items (line types) in LO3.6. It can be slow, 
sometimes 30 seconds to move the group.

Steve
And just for the fun of it I copied those items and saved 34000.
On 2013-09-18 12:50, Paul wrote:

Hi mxkuzn,

I can verify your findings. I am running LO 4.1.1.2 on Windows 7 64bit.
I tried creating a 25x40 grid of filled circles, 0.3cmx0.3cm. This
worked, and I could save. I copied this grid onto a new page, so 2000
circles, and I could save. I copied this onto another new page, so 3000
circles, and when I tried to save, LO crashed. Consistantly, saving at
or above 3000 circles crashes LO, and recovery does not get it back. I
can create more than 3000 circles, I went all the way up to 20 pages,
so 2 circles, and apart from each successive paste getting slower
and slower, up to almost 10 seconds per paste, there was no sign of
crashes, until I tried to save. This is a relatively fresh, and
default, install, and I haven't played with any memory settings. I have
no idea if this would work for me on previous versions of LO, I've
never tried anything like it.


To give you some idea, think of the games of go or checkers.

I play Go. I was wondering what you are trying to do; I can't think of
anything Go related that would require that many items.

Regards

Paul


On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 14:33:22 -0700 (PDT)
mxkuzn mxk...@gmail.com wrote:


Just reset Draw template to default one, opened new file and created
1000 0.12 filled circles (changed the filling color from the default
one). Arranged them into rectangle 25x40.

Copied and pasted the whole thing 2 times - that's 3000. It worked.
Pasted one more time, tried to save. Got LO has stopped
working (from Windows). Successfully recovered (all 4000) circles,
was able to save and reopen the file correctly.

Opened new Draw page, copied and pasted another 1000 (5000 total
count), tried to save - LO died with the same Windows message.
Recovered, and the new page was not there.

I have Thinkpad W510, Windows 8/64, fully updated. LO Version:
4.1.1.2. Memory settings:

Number of steps - 25

Use for LibreOffice: 200MB
Memory per object: 1.0MB

File size (compressed) 30K.

And, once again,I started having this problem in 4.1.1.2 and it became
strangling after the latest windows update.
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Draw's capacity was reduced after 4.1.1.2 and became very low after the last Win 8 update

2013-09-17 Thread mxkuzn
Thank you very much Paul,
I was able to create tens of thousands
objects too, and it was fine until I tried
to save them.

My initial problem was different: I could not
open a second big file,but the cause was
probably the same, so I choose a simpler
way to demonstrate thisbehavior.

Re: Go.  It's not hard to surpass 3K limit
if you keep multiple related layouts in one
filelike I do. I need hundreds of them
at this stage, each has 200-300 objects,
and graphical preview in Draw was very
helpful.

Thank you

George


On 9/17/2013 8:51 PM, Paul-6 [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote:
 Hi mxkuzn,

 I can verify your findings. I am running LO 4.1.1.2 on Windows 7 64bit.
 I tried creating a 25x40 grid of filled circles, 0.3cmx0.3cm. This
 worked, and I could save. I copied this grid onto a new page, so 2000
 circles, and I could save. I copied this onto another new page, so 3000
 circles, and when I tried to save, LO crashed. Consistantly, saving at
 or above 3000 circles crashes LO, and recovery does not get it back. I
 can create more than 3000 circles, I went all the way up to 20 pages,
 so 2 circles, and apart from each successive paste getting slower
 and slower, up to almost 10 seconds per paste, there was no sign of
 crashes, until I tried to save. This is a relatively fresh, and
 default, install, and I haven't played with any memory settings. I have
 no idea if this would work for me on previous versions of LO, I've
 never tried anything like it.

  To give you some idea, think of the games of go or checkers.
 I play Go. I was wondering what you are trying to do; I can't think of
 anything Go related that would require that many items.

 Regards

 Paul


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  Just reset Draw template to default one, opened new file and created
  1000 0.12 filled circles (changed the filling color from the default
  one). Arranged them into rectangle 25x40.
 
  Copied and pasted the whole thing 2 times - that's 3000. It worked.
  Pasted one more time, tried to save. Got LO has stopped
  working (from Windows). Successfully recovered (all 4000) circles,
  was able to save and reopen the file correctly.
 
  Opened new Draw page, copied and pasted another 1000 (5000 total
  count), tried to save - LO died with the same Windows message.
  Recovered, and the new page was not there.
 
  I have Thinkpad W510, Windows 8/64, fully updated. LO Version:
  4.1.1.2. Memory settings:
 
  Number of steps - 25
 
  Use for LibreOffice: 200MB
  Memory per object: 1.0MB
 
  File size (compressed) 30K.
 
  And, once again,I started having this problem in 4.1.1.2 and it became
  strangling after the latest windows update.
  _trying_to_break_it_01.odg
  
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4074556/_trying_to_break_it_01.odg
  

 
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Draw's capacity was reduced after 4.1.1.2 and became very low after the last Win 8 update

2013-09-17 Thread mxkuzn
Most importantly, guys, I created those files in Draw
and had no problems keeping any number of them open
without even thinking of memory settings.
I mean, until the latest updates.




On 9/17/2013 8:51 PM, Paul-6 [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote:
 Hi mxkuzn,

 I can verify your findings. I am running LO 4.1.1.2 on Windows 7 64bit.
 I tried creating a 25x40 grid of filled circles, 0.3cmx0.3cm. This
 worked, and I could save. I copied this grid onto a new page, so 2000
 circles, and I could save. I copied this onto another new page, so 3000
 circles, and when I tried to save, LO crashed. Consistantly, saving at
 or above 3000 circles crashes LO, and recovery does not get it back. I
 can create more than 3000 circles, I went all the way up to 20 pages,
 so 2 circles, and apart from each successive paste getting slower
 and slower, up to almost 10 seconds per paste, there was no sign of
 crashes, until I tried to save. This is a relatively fresh, and
 default, install, and I haven't played with any memory settings. I have
 no idea if this would work for me on previous versions of LO, I've
 never tried anything like it.

  To give you some idea, think of the games of go or checkers.
 I play Go. I was wondering what you are trying to do; I can't think of
 anything Go related that would require that many items.

 Regards

 Paul


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 mxkuzn [hidden email] 
 /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=4074569i=0 wrote:

  Just reset Draw template to default one, opened new file and created
  1000 0.12 filled circles (changed the filling color from the default
  one). Arranged them into rectangle 25x40.
 
  Copied and pasted the whole thing 2 times - that's 3000. It worked.
  Pasted one more time, tried to save. Got LO has stopped
  working (from Windows). Successfully recovered (all 4000) circles,
  was able to save and reopen the file correctly.
 
  Opened new Draw page, copied and pasted another 1000 (5000 total
  count), tried to save - LO died with the same Windows message.
  Recovered, and the new page was not there.
 
  I have Thinkpad W510, Windows 8/64, fully updated. LO Version:
  4.1.1.2. Memory settings:
 
  Number of steps - 25
 
  Use for LibreOffice: 200MB
  Memory per object: 1.0MB
 
  File size (compressed) 30K.
 
  And, once again,I started having this problem in 4.1.1.2 and it became
  strangling after the latest windows update.
  _trying_to_break_it_01.odg
  
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4074556/_trying_to_break_it_01.odg
  

 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Sections are driving me nuts

2013-09-17 Thread dr soumalya ray
try to insert page break at the end of page 18 through the insert - manual 
break - page break from the menu bar  and let us know what happens. while 
inserting the page break, select the desired page style and start it with page 
no 1.

regards,

 
Dr Soumalya Ray drsoumalya-...@yahoo.co.in
MBBS,MD(PGT-C.Medicine),Ex-HP(Medicine)





 From: John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2013 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Sections are driving me nuts
 

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 15:50:11 -0700
John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net dijo:

I have LO 3.5.7.2 on Xubuntu 12.04. I am creating a document that has
18 pages of front matter, after which I want to start page numbering (I
don't need numbers on the front matter). I want page 19 to be numbered
page 1.

OK, I figured out that the footer is turned on in the page style.
That's cool, because I want a left and right page style anyway. I
modified the default left and right page styles to turn on the footer.

Then I applied the right page style to page 19 and the left page style
to page 20, after which I noticed that Writer had thoughtfully applied
right and left page styles to all the remaining pages in the document.
Cool.

Unfortunately, Writer also applied right and left page styles to the
first 18 pages also, so they now have the footer on them as well. I
don't want the footer on the first 18 pages. So I applied Default page
style to the first page, after which I noted that Writer had
thoughtfully applied default to page 2, and 3, and 4 ... and continuing
to the end of the document. No! I want only pages 1 - 18 to have the
Default page style. So I went to page 19 and reapplied right page, and
to page 20 and applied left page, and again Writer applied them to the
first 18 pages as well.

After some poking around I discovered that is controlled by the
Organizer tab, where you stipulate the following style. Unfortunately,
the selection is a drop-down that contains only the styles that
currently exist. You must choose one of them. There is no None of the
above option. Whatever you select, as soon as you apply that page
style to a page the style specified in the Organizer for the next page
will automatically be applied to the end of the document. 

What this boils down to is that all the pages in your document must
always be the same style. 

Should I just give up on Writer for this project?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Sections are driving me nuts

2013-09-17 Thread Brian Barker

At 15:50 17/09/2013 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
Page 21 starts with Chapter 1 centered at the top of the page. I 
placed the cursor in front of it and entered a section. However, 
doing so added a line break so that Chapter 1 is now on the second 
line. If I delete the line break apparently it deletes the section 
marker. I'm not sure of this, however, because I can't find a way to 
make section
markers visible. It might still be there, because if I try to insert 
a section it shows Section 1 and assumes I want to label the new one Section 2.


I hesitate to say it, but I think you may be guilty of 
Microsoft-Word-think.  What Word calls sections are actually section 
breaks, and you are speaking as if you are expecting Writer to behave 
similarly.  But in Writer, sections do not break up the material but 
contain it.  If you want your later pages to be in a section, you 
should select all that material before inserting the section - which 
will then contain that material.  The earlier material would not be 
in a section, but the later material would.  But sections are 
probably not what you need here.


And assuming I can figure out how to enter a section without an 
added line feed, or that my section is still there, how can I create 
a footer that exists only in that section?


Footers are a property of page styles, so its these you should be looking at.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Sections are driving me nuts

2013-09-17 Thread Brian Barker

At 17:29 17/09/2013 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
OK, I figured out that the footer is turned on 
in the page style. That's cool, because I want a 
left and right page style anyway. I modified the 
default left and right page styles to turn on the footer.


Then I applied the right page style to page 19 
and the left page style to page 20, after which 
I noticed that Writer had thoughtfully applied 
right and left page styles to all the remaining pages in the document. Cool.


The Left Page page style has Right Page set as its Next Style - and vice versa.

Unfortunately, Writer also applied right and 
left page styles to the first 18 pages also, so 
they now have the footer on them as well. I 
don't want the footer on the first 18 pages. So 
I applied Default page style to the first page, 
after which I noted that Writer had thoughtfully 
applied default to page 2, and 3, and 4 ... and 
continuing to the end of the document. No! I 
want only pages 1 - 18 to have the Default page 
style. So I went to page 19 and reapplied right 
page, and to page 20 and applied left page, and 
again Writer applied them to the first 18 pages as well.


That's right: page styles flow from one page to 
the next except in two circumstances.  You have 
discovered one already: Left Page and Right Page 
automatically alternate because of their Next 
Styles (I think).  But the other thing you need 
here is an indicator of where you want Default to 
end and Left and Right to start. You do this with a manual page break.


You probably have a page break at the end of page 
18 already.  If so, remove this.  Put the cursor 
at the end of the page 18 material and go to 
Insert | Manual Break... .  Under Type, select 
Page break, under Style select Right Page 
from the drop-down menu (page 19 will be a 
recto), tick Change page number, and ensure the 
bottom thumb wheel reads 1.  Click OK.  Voilà!


What this boils down to is that all the pages in 
your document must always be the same style.


Not so: page styles change either naturally where 
one style flows into another on the next page (as 
your existing Left and Right), or else possibly at a manual page break.



Should I just give up on Writer for this project?


No.  Writer does this very efficiently.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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