Re: [libreoffice-users] Native Connector

2014-05-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It's the 2nd one Anne-ology.

The connector is some sort of bridge between Base and MySql.  It's the
bridge that is timing out rather than the computer afaik.
Regards from
Tom :)




On 10 May 2014 22:13, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

If you're referring to the computer-machine shutting down and/or
 entering sleep-mode, then there's a simple solution;
 if you're referring to something else - well, I haven't a clue.

If the 1st - go to properties/options/ and re-set the timing
 mechanism to never shut down;
you can also do similarly in various programs - as LO -
  which otherwise decide they want to save every so often, causing
 me to lose my train of thought while writing  ;-)

If the 2nd - I'll be awaiting someone else's response on this list;
and will attempt to figure out what's what  ;-)



 From: Heinrich Stoellinger hc.stoellin...@aon.at
 Date: Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:08 AM
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Native Connector
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org


 Hello,
 It's good to see a native connector for MySQL under 4.2.
 One question: In the server my.cnf the value for wait_timeout
 is set to 60 seconds and will not be increased. This is a nuisance
 if one needs to be connected over longer periods but sometimes
 has to go away from there client for more than a minute.
 Under the JDBC-connector there is a possibility to specify
 ?auto-reconnect=true after the database name.
 Is there some facility like that under the native connector?
 Regards
 H. Stoellinger

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: crash - crash - crash - crash. !@#$#@!

2014-05-11 Thread Tom Cloyd

Jim,

MORE threatening language? Witness a large mind at work.

So, Jim, you find being bored more objectionable than backchannel 
bullying. Got it.


This actually isn't about you. It isn't even about me.

Does this list have a problem?

I haven't the time right now to finish writing what I have to say. I 
will, in a few hours. If the list finds it irrelevant, so be it. But to 
attempt to shut me up before you've even hear what I have to say? That 
alone makes you irrelevant.


This problem requires thought, not threats. If this is a problem for 
you, sit down.


Tom

On 05/10/2014 09:21 AM, Jim Seymour wrote:

Tom,

You're tedious.  Don't attempt to email me again.  If you do, you'll
find out how *I* deal with annoying, tedious people--whom I find more
objectionable than people like Urmas.

Jim



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Cannot instantiate SlideRenderer service from python script

2014-05-11 Thread tvi
Hi!

Just to let everybody know that I have finally spotted the mistake.

Instead of 



I should have written



i.e. using the remote context instead of the local one.

Thomas



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing windows explorer extension only

2014-05-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think the main point here is that it's an example of where Urmas is
really helpful and he/she deserves credit for that.  I didn't understand it
as it is too technical and beyond my understanding but it looks like
something that might be a good answer.  I avoid touching the Windows
registry but i'm guessing that Chris is able to assess the potential
problems there.


On a side-issue ...
The ones where Urmas does help are often highly technical.  That raises the
question of whether Urmas is a dev and just socially clumsy as so many are.
 Apparently Microsoft have recognised that many engineers and devs have
high functioning aspergers syndrome or, even further along the spectrum,
autism and that where both parents have such conditions their children are
much more likely to have the condition(s).  So apparently MS health
insurance covers the cost of their employees getting their children tested
for just those sorts of condition(s).  Mainstream society seems to consider
such conditions as disabilities but it seems that in some cases they can
actually be a benefit, as long as you can accept the social awkwardness and
social clumsiness that comes with the turf.  Going out into the wider IT
community many of us probably have OCD traits and other conditions but
often at such low levels that we might not notice it.  Again a lot of this
might help with the work we do but probably doesn't help us be sociably
adept.  So i think we have to accept interesting oddities in the way we and
the people around us behave in order to benefit from the thing we/they are
good at.


Another side-issue ...
My email client turned that 1st paragraph purple to distinguish it from the
1 line answer and from the greeting.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 10 May 2014 12:36, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Urmas,

 I think your posts would be easier to follow if you more clearly
 distinguished between your words and those of another writer to whom you
 are responding. My FOSS Thunderbird does that nicely.

 Virgil



 On 05/09/2014 11:04 PM, Urmas wrote:

 Chris Net46:

 I would like to install the optional component windows explorer
 extension
 on a Windows 2008 file server because I need to index open document
 format files saved on this server.

 I believe you can perform administrative installation, then copy the
 oofilt[_x64].dll to your own location and register it with regsvr32.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cannot instantiate SlideRenderer service from python script

2014-05-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Many thanks for posting the answer back to this mailing-list.  That is
likely to greatly improve the chances of people finding the fix for it when
it crops up again.


Oddly the coding brackets meant that my emailing system just left great big
empty gaps so it was only when i used Nabble that i was able to see the
answer.  So i am going to try pasting the post into this email to see if
that fixes it for other people using the same system as me;

Hi!

Just to let everybody know that I have finally spotted the mistake.

Instead of

renderer =
localContext.ServiceManager.createInstanceWithContext(com.sun.star.drawing.SlideRenderer,
localContext)

I should have written

renderer =
context.ServiceManager.createInstanceWithContext(com.sun.star.drawing.SlideRenderer,
context)

i.e. using the remote context instead of the local one.

Thomas


Congrats and regards from
Tom :)






On 11 May 2014 11:59, tvi tho...@thomasvial.fr wrote:

 Hi!

 Just to let everybody know that I have finally spotted the mistake.

 Instead of



 I should have written



 i.e. using the remote context instead of the local one.

 Thomas



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IT Geeks' Social Skills (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing windows explorer extension only)

2014-05-11 Thread Jim Seymour
On Sun, 11 May 2014 11:52:18 +0100
Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

[snip]
 
 On a side-issue ...
 The ones where Urmas does help are often highly technical.  That
 raises the question of whether Urmas is a dev and just socially
 clumsy as so many are. Apparently Microsoft have recognised that
 many engineers and devs have high functioning aspergers syndrome
 or, even further along the spectrum, autism ...
[snip]

Asperger Syndrome (it's properly capitalized) is often referred-to
as functional autism.  In any event: Yes, in the IT world it is
quite common for technically talented people to exhibit impaired
social skills.  It's usually not intentional.  Such people are simply
wired in such a manner that social skills that are second nature to
normal people are, quite simply, incomprehensible to them.  Good
examples of these are the TV show characters Dr. Gregory House, Dr.
Sheldon Cooper and Dr. Martin Ellingham (Doc Martin).  These
characters are all portrayed as being brilliant in their fields, but
socially inept to the point of being widely regarded as rude and
unfeeling.  (These characters portray behavioural extremes, but they
are, after all, actors, and it is, after all, entertainment.)

Such people can learn, to a degree, to work within commonly accepted
social norms, but they will never, ever understand the *need* to do
so, other than that failing to do so may have (potentially) adverse
consequences.

This is not to excuse behaviour clearly out-of-bounds, but more to
explain the reality that, in a venue such as this, you're going to
encounter such people.  The only way to stop it entirely is to
encourage them to go away.  Then what are you left with?  Who will
answer your questions and solve your problems?  The likes of
telephone sanitizers, hairstylists, advertising executives and
lawyers? ;)

Regards,
Jim
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[libreoffice-users] Question about fonts and forms in Writer

2014-05-11 Thread Tom Williams
Hi!  I'm converting a Word document into a form that will eventually be
a PDF form that can be filled in using Adobe Reader.   I'm doing this in
LibreOffice Writer 4.2.3.3 on Ubuntu Linux 14.04.  

My first pass worked splendidly well and everything worked fine except
for two issues:

 1. I can't seem to control the font used in the form controls, namely
the text boxes
 2. I can't get the text boxes to align text at the top (despite my
setting the form control to align text at the top)

Does anyone reading this list have much experience with creating forms
in Writer?   With regard to issue #2, when I enter text into a text box,
it's vertically centered vs being aligned along the top of the text
box.  This is when I view the generated PDF file in Ubuntu's PDF
document viewer, the text I typed wasn't aligned at the top of the text
box.  I'm not sure if this is an Ubuntu document view issue or an issue
with the generated PDF file.  I'll test in Adobe Reader later.

With regard to issue #1, is there any way to control the font used for
the text boxes in a form?

Thanks in advance for your time and assistance!

Peace...

Tom

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Re: IT Geeks' Social Skills (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing windows explorer extension only)

2014-05-11 Thread Paul
 Yes, in the IT world it is
 quite common for technically talented people to exhibit impaired
 social skills.
Not really, in my experience. It's common for IT people to *claim* to
have Asperger Syndrome or some such, but it's not nearly as common as
people think. My experience may be limited, but that still leaves us
with..

  whether Urmas is a dev and just socially
  clumsy as so many are.
Most clearly not. His answers often are not just pro Microsoft or
commercial software, but often derogatory of Open Source, and often
outright wrong, not just in terms of beliefs that are known to be
incorrect, but in terms of quoting actual facts that are wrong.
Sometimes even quoted with references, showing that he went to some
trouble to construct his false arguments. Maybe not often, but I'm sure
I've seen it in the past. Which shows clearly that he is not just
socially inept, but actually trying to troll. Equally, some of the off
list messages that have recently been shown on this list are not just
lacking in social graces, they are quite clearly rude and obscene. So I
suggest...

The only way to stop it entirely is to
 encourage them to go away.
That this would be a good idea. Despite the question of...

 Then what are you left with?  Who will
 answer your questions and solve your problems?
Other people. I've only seen Urmas be usefull I think twice, and in
those cases I really don't know how useful his information actually
was. Potentially very, I suppose, but I don't feel the need to keep him
around just for that. But that's only my opinion, of course. Spreading
FUD is one thing, but being abusive and using obscene language I don't
really want to have to put up with. But that said, we're stuck with...

 the reality that, in a venue such as this, you're going to
 encounter such people.
Unfortunate but true. I once asked if we could ban Urmas, and was told
no, he'd just come back in a new guise. I'm still not sure how I feel
about this, but unfortunately it is quite likely true that even if we
did ban him, he would just sign up again under a new name. He seems
intent on trolling this list. And at least at the moment we all mostly
know who he is and know to just ignore his stuff.

As this is the internet, and therefor devoid (rightly so) of physical
involvement, there really is nothing we can do to *make* him stop,
not so long as the list is public. Best we could do would be to
moderate everything, and just not let his stuff past moderation, but
that takes effort on someone's part. I'm not willing to go to all that
trouble myself, so I'd rather just ignore him.

I'm not sure what Tom Cloyd is thinking of here, but he seems to have an
idea about how to proceed. Personally, I don't think it will work, but
I'd still be willing to hear it. And if one doesn't think one should be
trying to intimidate Urmas into leaving, what on earth makes one think
one should be intimidating Tom Cloyd into leaving? Name calling and
nastiness doesn't belong on this list, in my opinion. If people get
tedious, speak your mind, tell them politely what your opinion is,
preferably make a constructive suggestion, then leave it be. If you
can't change their mind, ignore them. This is a public list, you are
free to ignore whatever part of it you want.

Just my thoughts on a matter that has the potential to spiral out of
control. Feel free to disagree, but politely, please. Or to ignore it,
if you so wish.

Paul


On Sun, 11 May 2014 11:57:57 -0400
Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote:

 On Sun, 11 May 2014 11:52:18 +0100
 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 [snip]
  
  On a side-issue ...
  The ones where Urmas does help are often highly technical.  That
  raises the question of whether Urmas is a dev and just socially
  clumsy as so many are. Apparently Microsoft have recognised that
  many engineers and devs have high functioning aspergers syndrome
  or, even further along the spectrum, autism ...
 [snip]
 
 Asperger Syndrome (it's properly capitalized) is often referred-to
 as functional autism.  In any event: Yes, in the IT world it is
 quite common for technically talented people to exhibit impaired
 social skills.  It's usually not intentional.  Such people are simply
 wired in such a manner that social skills that are second nature to
 normal people are, quite simply, incomprehensible to them.  Good
 examples of these are the TV show characters Dr. Gregory House, Dr.
 Sheldon Cooper and Dr. Martin Ellingham (Doc Martin).  These
 characters are all portrayed as being brilliant in their fields, but
 socially inept to the point of being widely regarded as rude and
 unfeeling.  (These characters portray behavioural extremes, but they
 are, after all, actors, and it is, after all, entertainment.)
 
 Such people can learn, to a degree, to work within commonly accepted
 social norms, but they will never, ever understand the *need* to do
 so, other than that failing to do so may have (potentially) adverse
 consequences.
 
 This is not to 

Re: IT Geeks' Social Skills (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing windows explorer extension only)

2014-05-11 Thread Philip Ward
I see these arguments in my emails, and peruse some, but generally once I
have the gist of things, I press delete! But it does not put me off, trying
to sell the idea of free, to my customers, and say there is lots of support
out there etc.

When I say sell the idea, I mean compare the the well known version, and
libre... Usually quoting Spanish for freee yes big emphasis on
free

I see the same on the other forums as we'll, ie gimp, Inkscape etc, and it
disheartens me that someone has to upset the applecart.

Recently I made an error, in not reading what was on my screen with libre,
but the support I got was great, and positive feedback for all involved

But I guess the with  a price for free means that someone will try and
take advantage

Phil

On Sunday, May 11, 2014, Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote:

  Yes, in the IT world it is
  quite common for technically talented people to exhibit impaired
  social skills.
 Not really, in my experience. It's common for IT people to *claim* to
 have Asperger Syndrome or some such, but it's not nearly as common as
 people think. My experience may be limited, but that still leaves us
 with..

   whether Urmas is a dev and just socially
   clumsy as so many are.
 Most clearly not. His answers often are not just pro Microsoft or
 commercial software, but often derogatory of Open Source, and often
 outright wrong, not just in terms of beliefs that are known to be
 incorrect, but in terms of quoting actual facts that are wrong.
 Sometimes even quoted with references, showing that he went to some
 trouble to construct his false arguments. Maybe not often, but I'm sure
 I've seen it in the past. Which shows clearly that he is not just
 socially inept, but actually trying to troll. Equally, some of the off
 list messages that have recently been shown on this list are not just
 lacking in social graces, they are quite clearly rude and obscene. So I
 suggest...

 The only way to stop it entirely is to
  encourage them to go away.
 That this would be a good idea. Despite the question of...

  Then what are you left with?  Who will
  answer your questions and solve your problems?
 Other people. I've only seen Urmas be usefull I think twice, and in
 those cases I really don't know how useful his information actually
 was. Potentially very, I suppose, but I don't feel the need to keep him
 around just for that. But that's only my opinion, of course. Spreading
 FUD is one thing, but being abusive and using obscene language I don't
 really want to have to put up with. But that said, we're stuck with...

  the reality that, in a venue such as this, you're going to
  encounter such people.
 Unfortunate but true. I once asked if we could ban Urmas, and was told
 no, he'd just come back in a new guise. I'm still not sure how I feel
 about this, but unfortunately it is quite likely true that even if we
 did ban him, he would just sign up again under a new name. He seems
 intent on trolling this list. And at least at the moment we all mostly
 know who he is and know to just ignore his stuff.

 As this is the internet, and therefor devoid (rightly so) of physical
 involvement, there really is nothing we can do to *make* him stop,
 not so long as the list is public. Best we could do would be to
 moderate everything, and just not let his stuff past moderation, but
 that takes effort on someone's part. I'm not willing to go to all that
 trouble myself, so I'd rather just ignore him.

 I'm not sure what Tom Cloyd is thinking of here, but he seems to have an
 idea about how to proceed. Personally, I don't think it will work, but
 I'd still be willing to hear it. And if one doesn't think one should be
 trying to intimidate Urmas into leaving, what on earth makes one think
 one should be intimidating Tom Cloyd into leaving? Name calling and
 nastiness doesn't belong on this list, in my opinion. If people get
 tedious, speak your mind, tell them politely what your opinion is,
 preferably make a constructive suggestion, then leave it be. If you
 can't change their mind, ignore them. This is a public list, you are
 free to ignore whatever part of it you want.

 Just my thoughts on a matter that has the potential to spiral out of
 control. Feel free to disagree, but politely, please. Or to ignore it,
 if you so wish.

 Paul


 On Sun, 11 May 2014 11:57:57 -0400
 Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote:

  On Sun, 11 May 2014 11:52:18 +0100
  Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote:
 
  [snip]
  
   On a side-issue ...
   The ones where Urmas does help are often highly technical.  That
   raises the question of whether Urmas is a dev and just socially
   clumsy as so many are. Apparently Microsoft have recognised that
   many engineers and devs have high functioning aspergers syndrome
   or, even further along the spectrum, autism ...
  [snip]
 
  Asperger Syndrome (it's properly capitalized) is often referred-to
  as functional autism.  In any event: Yes, in the IT 

Re: IT Geeks' Social Skills (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing windows explorer extension only)

2014-05-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Disagreements are fine imo.  They lead to discussions and maybe even to
thinking in a new way or taking on new ideas.  Often we just get entrenched
in old thought-patterns but at least the other people on the mailing list
can then assess the qualities of the ideas.

Clearly me and Tom disagree on some things but i already consider him yet
another person who was just a friend i just hadn't met yet.  As i find so
many on this list are.  I find myself agreeing with a lot of what Paul said
and i'm glad to hear Philip's points.

I don't think that intimidation is a good idea and hopefully it's
unfeasible anyway.  I'd rather see people deal with it humorously or calmly
and maybe giving better links to counter the Fud.  Ideally i would like to
be calm myself or be able to stop myself posting long angry rants.
Regards from
Tom :)




On 11 May 2014 19:14, Philip Ward skegg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I see these arguments in my emails, and peruse some, but generally once I
 have the gist of things, I press delete! But it does not put me off, trying
 to sell the idea of free, to my customers, and say there is lots of support
 out there etc.

 When I say sell the idea, I mean compare the the well known version, and
 libre... Usually quoting Spanish for freee yes big emphasis on
 free

 I see the same on the other forums as we'll, ie gimp, Inkscape etc, and it
 disheartens me that someone has to upset the applecart.

 Recently I made an error, in not reading what was on my screen with libre,
 but the support I got was great, and positive feedback for all involved

 But I guess the with  a price for free means that someone will try and
 take advantage

 Phil

 On Sunday, May 11, 2014, Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote:

   Yes, in the IT world it is
   quite common for technically talented people to exhibit impaired
   social skills.
  Not really, in my experience. It's common for IT people to *claim* to
  have Asperger Syndrome or some such, but it's not nearly as common as
  people think. My experience may be limited, but that still leaves us
  with..
 
whether Urmas is a dev and just socially
clumsy as so many are.
  Most clearly not. His answers often are not just pro Microsoft or
  commercial software, but often derogatory of Open Source, and often
  outright wrong, not just in terms of beliefs that are known to be
  incorrect, but in terms of quoting actual facts that are wrong.
  Sometimes even quoted with references, showing that he went to some
  trouble to construct his false arguments. Maybe not often, but I'm sure
  I've seen it in the past. Which shows clearly that he is not just
  socially inept, but actually trying to troll. Equally, some of the off
  list messages that have recently been shown on this list are not just
  lacking in social graces, they are quite clearly rude and obscene. So I
  suggest...
 
  The only way to stop it entirely is to
   encourage them to go away.
  That this would be a good idea. Despite the question of...
 
   Then what are you left with?  Who will
   answer your questions and solve your problems?
  Other people. I've only seen Urmas be usefull I think twice, and in
  those cases I really don't know how useful his information actually
  was. Potentially very, I suppose, but I don't feel the need to keep him
  around just for that. But that's only my opinion, of course. Spreading
  FUD is one thing, but being abusive and using obscene language I don't
  really want to have to put up with. But that said, we're stuck with...
 
   the reality that, in a venue such as this, you're going to
   encounter such people.
  Unfortunate but true. I once asked if we could ban Urmas, and was told
  no, he'd just come back in a new guise. I'm still not sure how I feel
  about this, but unfortunately it is quite likely true that even if we
  did ban him, he would just sign up again under a new name. He seems
  intent on trolling this list. And at least at the moment we all mostly
  know who he is and know to just ignore his stuff.
 
  As this is the internet, and therefor devoid (rightly so) of physical
  involvement, there really is nothing we can do to *make* him stop,
  not so long as the list is public. Best we could do would be to
  moderate everything, and just not let his stuff past moderation, but
  that takes effort on someone's part. I'm not willing to go to all that
  trouble myself, so I'd rather just ignore him.
 
  I'm not sure what Tom Cloyd is thinking of here, but he seems to have an
  idea about how to proceed. Personally, I don't think it will work, but
  I'd still be willing to hear it. And if one doesn't think one should be
  trying to intimidate Urmas into leaving, what on earth makes one think
  one should be intimidating Tom Cloyd into leaving? Name calling and
  nastiness doesn't belong on this list, in my opinion. If people get
  tedious, speak your mind, tell them politely what your opinion is,
  preferably make a constructive 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about fonts and forms in Writer

2014-05-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Can you right-click on the boxes or select them all and set their
properties?

Err, when you say converting a Word document into a form - for most things
it is often better to start off with a fresh document in ODF format when
you find yourself struggling with odd weirdnesses.   Documents that were
previously in some other format, particularly MS formats (especially the
various versions of DocX or Rtf), often have tons of hidden coding stuffing
things up.  A fresh start often helps.  ODF is the better format for
stability between different versions of software.

How about Chapter 15 in this guide?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide
I haven't read it so i don't know if it covers setting properties for the
boxes

Regards from
Tom :)





On 11 May 2014 17:59, Tom Williams tomd...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi!  I'm converting a Word document into a form that will eventually be
 a PDF form that can be filled in using Adobe Reader.   I'm doing this in
 LibreOffice Writer 4.2.3.3 on Ubuntu Linux 14.04.

 My first pass worked splendidly well and everything worked fine except
 for two issues:

  1. I can't seem to control the font used in the form controls, namely
 the text boxes
  2. I can't get the text boxes to align text at the top (despite my
 setting the form control to align text at the top)

 Does anyone reading this list have much experience with creating forms
 in Writer?   With regard to issue #2, when I enter text into a text box,
 it's vertically centered vs being aligned along the top of the text
 box.  This is when I view the generated PDF file in Ubuntu's PDF
 document viewer, the text I typed wasn't aligned at the top of the text
 box.  I'm not sure if this is an Ubuntu document view issue or an issue
 with the generated PDF file.  I'll test in Adobe Reader later.

 With regard to issue #1, is there any way to control the font used for
 the text boxes in a form?

 Thanks in advance for your time and assistance!

 Peace...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Native Connector

2014-05-11 Thread Girvin Herr
Yes, if I understand Mr. Stoellinger's problem correctly, it is the 
MySQL server (aka back-end) which is dropping his connection. 
According to my MySQL documentation, by default, the MySQL server drops 
any connection after 8 hours of continuous connection. However, Mr. 
Stoellinger's admin has reduced that time to 60 seconds!  IMHO, that is 
ridiculous, but it must be the policy at his institution, so he must 
live with it.  The MySQL connector driver that he has been using has a 
workaround by triggering a reconnect operation every so often, 
effectively restarting the 60-second timer.  That is the purpose of the 
autoReconnect=true connector driver parameter he talks about.  Now, it 
appears that the new LO Base has a MySQL native driver that replaces the 
Oracle MySQL-connector-java driver that he most likely has been using 
and he needs to know if the new LO native driver supports the reconnect 
schema and if so, how to implement it.  As far as I know, no one on this 
list so far has given him the answer to that question.  I have no 
experience with the new native driver (yet), so I do not have the 
answer.  If the native driver does not support it, or he does not get an 
answer, I would suggest keeping the Oracle JDBC driver until he gets his 
answer, if the new LO still allows replacement of the native built-in 
driver.


BTW: I am my own admin, so my MySQL server is still set to the default 
timeout, if any.  Therefore, I do not experience this disconnect 
problem.  However, every so often, I see a posting about it on this 
forum, so he is not alone.

HTH.
Girvin Herr


On 05/10/2014 03:37 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
It's the 2nd one Anne-ology.

The connector is some sort of bridge between Base and MySql.  It's the
bridge that is timing out rather than the computer afaik.
Regards from
Tom :)




On 10 May 2014 22:13, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:


If you're referring to the computer-machine shutting down and/or
entering sleep-mode, then there's a simple solution;
 if you're referring to something else - well, I haven't a clue.

If the 1st - go to properties/options/ and re-set the timing
mechanism to never shut down;
you can also do similarly in various programs - as LO -
  which otherwise decide they want to save every so often, causing
me to lose my train of thought while writing  ;-)

If the 2nd - I'll be awaiting someone else's response on this list;
and will attempt to figure out what's what  ;-)



From: Heinrich Stoellinger hc.stoellin...@aon.at
Date: Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:08 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Native Connector
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org


Hello,
It's good to see a native connector for MySQL under 4.2.
One question: In the server my.cnf the value for wait_timeout
is set to 60 seconds and will not be increased. This is a nuisance
if one needs to be connected over longer periods but sometimes
has to go away from there client for more than a minute.
Under the JDBC-connector there is a possibility to specify
?auto-reconnect=true after the database name.
Is there some facility like that under the native connector?
Regards
H. Stoellinger

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[libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

2014-05-11 Thread Virgil Arrington
I'm curious to find out what components of LO are used most by the 
people on this list. I think it helps to know different folks' area of 
experience. It might also help us in learning new ways to integrate the 
different components. For myself, my approximate usage is:


Writer (85% of my use of LO)
Calc(10%)
Impress  (3%, Maybe four to five presentations a year)
Base   (once a year to print out labels for my Christmas cards)
Draw  (What's that?)

Virgil



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Native Connector

2014-05-11 Thread anne-ology
   Well, that autoReconnect=true must have something to do with JAVA
...

I 'searched' and uncovered nearly 100,000 articles  [whew  ;-)
]

https://www.google.com/search?q=autoReconnect%3Dtrueie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-achannel=sb

   BTW - when opening up the first few, I noticed others are asking the
same question re. this timing out  ???!!!???!!!???

   Oops - Something tells me I should quit calling this machine a
glorified-typewriter; maybe it will want revenge and blow up ... ... ...
my mouse already died this year; had to replace the li'l
fella'  ;-)



From: Girvin Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Sun, May 11, 2014 at 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Native Connector
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Yes, if I understand Mr. Stoellinger's problem correctly, it is the MySQL
server (aka back-end) which is dropping his connection. According to my
MySQL documentation, by default, the MySQL server drops any connection
after 8 hours of continuous connection. However, Mr. Stoellinger's admin
has reduced that time to 60 seconds!  IMHO, that is ridiculous, but it must
be the policy at his institution, so he must live with it.  The MySQL
connector driver that he has been using has a workaround by triggering a
reconnect operation every so often, effectively restarting the 60-second
timer.  That is the purpose of the autoReconnect=true connector driver
parameter he talks about.  Now, it appears that the new LO Base has a MySQL
native driver that replaces the Oracle MySQL-connector-java driver that he
most likely has been using and he needs to know if the new LO native driver
supports the reconnect schema and if so, how to implement it.  As far as I
know, no one on this list so far has given him the answer to that question.
 I have no experience with the new native driver (yet), so I do not have
the answer.  If the native driver does not support it, or he does not get
an answer, I would suggest keeping the Oracle JDBC driver until he gets his
answer, if the new LO still allows replacement of the native built-in
driver.

BTW: I am my own admin, so my MySQL server is still set to the default
timeout, if any.  Therefore, I do not experience this disconnect problem.
 However, every so often, I see a posting about it on this forum, so he is
not alone.
HTH.
Girvin Herr



On 05/10/2014 03:37 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 It's the 2nd one Anne-ology.

 The connector is some sort of bridge between Base and MySql.  It's the
 bridge that is timing out rather than the computer afaik.
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 On 10 May 2014 22:13, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

  If you're referring to the computer-machine shutting down and/or
 entering sleep-mode, then there's a simple solution;
  if you're referring to something else - well, I haven't a
 clue.

 If the 1st - go to properties/options/ and re-set the timing
 mechanism to never shut down;
 you can also do similarly in various programs - as LO -
   which otherwise decide they want to save every so often, causing
 me to lose my train of thought while writing  ;-)

 If the 2nd - I'll be awaiting someone else's response on this
 list;
 and will attempt to figure out what's what  ;-)



 From: Heinrich Stoellinger hc.stoellin...@aon.at
 Date: Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:08 AM
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Native Connector
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org


 Hello,
 It's good to see a native connector for MySQL under 4.2.
 One question: In the server my.cnf the value for wait_timeout
 is set to 60 seconds and will not be increased. This is a nuisance
 if one needs to be connected over longer periods but sometimes
 has to go away from there client for more than a minute.
 Under the JDBC-connector there is a possibility to specify
 ?auto-reconnect=true after the database name.
 Is there some facility like that under the native connector?
 Regards
 H. Stoellinger

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

2014-05-11 Thread Dale Rebgetz

Writer - 90%
Draw - 9%
Calc - 1%
Base - once
Impress - never

Dale.

On 12/05/2014 7:53 am, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I'm curious to find out what components of LO are used most by the 
people on this list. I think it helps to know different folks' area of 
experience. It might also help us in learning new ways to integrate 
the different components. For myself, my approximate usage is:


Writer (85% of my use of LO)
Calc(10%)
Impress  (3%, Maybe four to five presentations a year)
Base   (once a year to print out labels for my Christmas cards)
Draw  (What's that?)

Virgil








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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

2014-05-11 Thread Jay Lozier


On 05/11/2014 05:53 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I'm curious to find out what components of LO are used most by the 
people on this list. I think it helps to know different folks' area of 
experience. It might also help us in learning new ways to integrate 
the different components. For myself, my approximate usage is:


Writer (85% of my use of LO)
Calc(10%)
Impress  (3%, Maybe four to five presentations a year)
Base   (once a year to print out labels for my Christmas cards)
Draw  (What's that?)

Virgil

My usage is:
Calc 85%
Writer   10%
Impress  a few times a year, mostly to view slide shows
Base 5% mostly for testing purposes
Draw very rarely

Most of my Calc use is generating spreadsheet reports for others. I 
typically use text manipulation functions


My Writer use is for writing/editing short documents and reports.

Impress is used to view slide shows, I almost never make a show.

Base is occasionally used to work with a MySQL/MariaDB backend. I 
usually use MySQL Workbench or HeidiSQL via Wine to work with MySQL/MariaDB.


Draw is used maybe once a year.

From what I have seen of alternative commercial office suites I suspect 
the usage is concentrated on Writer, Calc, and Impress. Base and Draw 
are not used by most but those who do use either probably use them a lot.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

2014-05-11 Thread anne-ology
   an interesting survey -
   as for me:

Writer  - prefer this to any other text program; use to write, ...
Calc - don't use since still do manually  ;-)
Impress - use to use for presentations, then would convert to video; now
skip that 1st step
Base - don't use since still do manually - (well, old-fashioned with good,
artistic hand-writing)
Draw - have not gotten the hang of drawing with these machines; they just
don't look as appealing as done by hand  ;-)



From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, May 11, 2014 at 4:53 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org


I'm curious to find out what components of LO are used most by the people
on this list. I think it helps to know different folks' area of experience.
It might also help us in learning new ways to integrate the different
components. For myself, my approximate usage is:

Writer (85% of my use of LO)
Calc(10%)
Impress  (3%, Maybe four to five presentations a year)
Base   (once a year to print out labels for my Christmas cards)
Draw  (What's that?)

Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about fonts and forms in Writer

2014-05-11 Thread Tom Williams
On 05/11/2014 11:40 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Can you right-click on the boxes or select them all and set their
 properties? 

Yes, I can and that's how I set two of the text boxes to align the
entered text at the top, instead of the middle.  I'll try my PDF form in
Adobe Reader now and will see how it behaves.



 Err, when you say converting a Word document into a form - for most
 things it is often better to start off with a fresh document in ODF
 format when you find yourself struggling with odd weirdnesses.  
 Documents that were previously in some other format, particularly MS
 formats (especially the various versions of DocX or Rtf), often have
 tons of hidden coding stuffing things up.  A fresh start often helps.
  ODF is the better format for stability between different versions of
 software. 

Thanks for mentioning this.  I'll keep this in mind.  :)


 How about Chapter 15 in this guide?
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide
 I haven't read it so i don't know if it covers setting properties for
 the boxes

Great! Thanks!  I'll check it out!

Peace...

The other Tom :)


 Regards from 
 Tom :)  





 On 11 May 2014 17:59, Tom Williams tomd...@comcast.net
 mailto:tomd...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi!  I'm converting a Word document into a form that will
 eventually be
 a PDF form that can be filled in using Adobe Reader.   I'm doing
 this in
 LibreOffice Writer 4.2.3.3 on Ubuntu Linux 14.04.

 My first pass worked splendidly well and everything worked fine except
 for two issues:

  1. I can't seem to control the font used in the form controls, namely
 the text boxes
  2. I can't get the text boxes to align text at the top (despite my
 setting the form control to align text at the top)

 Does anyone reading this list have much experience with creating forms
 in Writer?   With regard to issue #2, when I enter text into a
 text box,
 it's vertically centered vs being aligned along the top of the text
 box.  This is when I view the generated PDF file in Ubuntu's PDF
 document viewer, the text I typed wasn't aligned at the top of the
 text
 box.  I'm not sure if this is an Ubuntu document view issue or an
 issue
 with the generated PDF file.  I'll test in Adobe Reader later.

 With regard to issue #1, is there any way to control the font used for
 the text boxes in a form?

 Thanks in advance for your time and assistance!

 Peace...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

2014-05-11 Thread Les Howell
On Sun, 2014-05-11 at 17:53 -0400, Virgil Arrington wrote:
 I'm curious to find out what components of LO are used most by the 
 people on this list. I think it helps to know different folks' area of 
 experience. It might also help us in learning new ways to integrate the 
 different components. For myself, my approximate usage is:
 
 Writer (85% of my use of LO)
 Calc(10%)
 Impress  (3%, Maybe four to five presentations a year)
 Base   (once a year to print out labels for my Christmas cards)
 Draw  (What's that?)
 
 Virgil
 
 
 

Writer 10%
Calc 30% (but decreasing as I become more familiar with gnuplot_
Impress 10% (not just for presentations, but as a tool for creating
graphics to send to customers)
Base 0%
Draw 0%

Give me a link to a more powerful tool for graphing tool, please.
Gnuplot is OK, but I deal with millions and millions of samples, and I
find generating plots or graphs with zoom and very slow and time
consuming.  I think gnuplot uses TK, which is not quick, and maybe
python in the back end.  Something native would be nice, but with the
ability to choose samples, rows and columns like gnuplot.

Big data is the field, isn't it.

Regards,
Les H




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RE: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

2014-05-11 Thread Bruce Carlson
HI Anne,

Yes a very interesting question:-

Me:-
Writer and Calc extensively all the time even on my Samsung tablet 
(running under Ubuntu but that's another story)  33% each
Draw I use at least once a day. (I like it  --- it is a very good easy 
to use application)  22%
Impress I use often. (I find it better than MS PowerPoint.  Impress has 
less bugs and is easier to use.)11%
Base I use rarely.  
1% 

 I have this idea that when (if) I retire I will dedicate much of my time to 
helping make base a useable application but at the moment it just does not 
fulfil any requirements but that does not mean that I think it should be 
suspended because I do think that it has the prospect of being something 
excellent but needs much more development and that takes time and developers.

I find that LO does not handle Visio files very well either yet.

This makes Access and Visio the only two MSO applications I still use. (Oh! And 
outlook which the company I work for insists on everyone using).

 
Bruce Carlson
Applications Development Manager

-Original Message-
From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, 12 May 2014 8:45 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

   an interesting survey -
   as for me:

Writer  - prefer this to any other text program; use to write, ...
Calc - don't use since still do manually  ;-) Impress - use to use for 
presentations, then would convert to video; now skip that 1st step Base - don't 
use since still do manually - (well, old-fashioned with good, artistic 
hand-writing) Draw - have not gotten the hang of drawing with these machines; 
they just don't look as appealing as done by hand  ;-)



From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, May 11, 2014 at 4:53 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org


I'm curious to find out what components of LO are used most by the people on 
this list. I think it helps to know different folks' area of experience.
It might also help us in learning new ways to integrate the different 
components. For myself, my approximate usage is:

Writer (85% of my use of LO)
Calc(10%)
Impress  (3%, Maybe four to five presentations a year)
Base   (once a year to print out labels for my Christmas cards)
Draw  (What's that?)

Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

2014-05-11 Thread Keith Bates

Writer 90%
Calc- a few times a year
Base- daily
Impress- almost never
Draw- just discovering how simple it is to layout info on a page

Keith

On 12/05/14 12:04, Les Howell wrote:

On Sun, 2014-05-11 at 17:53 -0400, Virgil Arrington wrote:

I'm curious to find out what components of LO are used most by the
people on this list. I think it helps to know different folks' area of
experience. It might also help us in learning new ways to integrate the
different components. For myself, my approximate usage is:

Writer (85% of my use of LO)
Calc(10%)
Impress  (3%, Maybe four to five presentations a year)
Base   (once a year to print out labels for my Christmas cards)
Draw  (What's that?)

Virgil




Writer 10%
Calc 30% (but decreasing as I become more familiar with gnuplot_
Impress 10% (not just for presentations, but as a tool for creating
graphics to send to customers)
Base 0%
Draw 0%

Give me a link to a more powerful tool for graphing tool, please.
Gnuplot is OK, but I deal with millions and millions of samples, and I
find generating plots or graphs with zoom and very slow and time
consuming.  I think gnuplot uses TK, which is not quick, and maybe
python in the back end.  Something native would be nice, but with the
ability to choose samples, rows and columns like gnuplot.

Big data is the field, isn't it.

Regards,
Les H






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

2014-05-11 Thread som


 On Monday, 12 May 2014 3:25 AM, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:
  I'm curious to find out what components of LO are used most by the 
 people on this list.

 Writer     (85% of my use of LO)
 Calc        (10%)
 Impress  (3%, Maybe four to five presentations a year)
 Base       (once a year to print out labels for my Christmas cards)
 Draw      (What's that?)
 
 Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which components do you use most?

2014-05-11 Thread som
 On , som drsoumalya-l...@yahoo.co.in wrote:

  
 
 
  On Monday, 12 May 2014 3:25 AM, Virgil Arrington 
 cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:
   I'm curious to find out what components of LO are used most by the 
 
  people on this list.
 
  Writer     (85% of my use of LO)
  Calc        (10%)
  Impress  (3%, Maybe four to five presentations a year)
  Base       (once a year to print out labels for my Christmas cards)
  Draw      (What's that?)

hi virgil,

its a very interesting topic.

for me,

writer: 80-85%
calc: not much (most of the analysis done on PSPP/R)
impress: 15-20%
base: none (could not understand)
draw: once/twice a year (mainly for poster presentation in conferences)

regards,

som

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Native Connector

2014-05-11 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 10/05/2014 15:08, Heinrich Stoellinger a écrit :

Hi Heinrich,

You do not give the whole story :

- which connector are you talking about, where did you get it ? It is
not supplied by default with official builds of LO, so either it has
been included as a packet with your Linux distribution, or else you have
got it from somewhere else ;

- as for the autoreconnect, have you tried adding this as a parameter in
the database URL when you set up the connection (i.e. as you would with
the JDBC connector) - alternatively, is there anything in the Advanced
Properties of the database connection ?

If there isn't, or if the suggestion I made above doesn't work, then I
doubt that it is possible. The only other alternative is to shut down
the ODB and re-open it periodically.


Alex


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