[libreoffice-users] Latest version of Libreoffice .deb root@BrianDavid:/home/brian/Documents/Software/LibreOffice_4.3.5.2_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS# gdebi *.deb Reading package lists... Done Building depende

2014-12-30 Thread brian.hess72
root@BrianDavid:/home/brian/Documents/Software/LibreOffice_4.3.5.2_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS#
gdebi *.deb
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Building data structures... Done
Building data structures... Done
This package is uninstallable
Breaks existing package 'libobasis4.3-postgresql-sdbc' dependency
libobasis4.3-base (= 4.3.4.1-1)


I tried to install the downloaded packages for the latest version but got a
package that is uninstallable (libobasis4.3-postgresql-sdbc

I tried to install the required dependency but apt comes back with syntax
indicating that the version installed already is  [required version]

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[libreoffice-users] Re: PDFs

2014-12-30 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 30.12.2014 um 03:16 schrieb anne-ology:
Thank you for this information -
 I did not realize that PDFs were not merely a strange sort of
 word document  ;-)
(I have not liked PDFs;
have not understand the continual use of them - although some
 seem to encrypt them)
 
 
 

_Any_ software able to send print jobs can generate PDF by sending the
print job to a software rather than a print device.
And that very same _Any_ software is the software to edit your data and
then send another print job to the PDF generator exactly like you would
print new paper sheets after editing the original data. PDF is not a
document format. It is a virtual print out designed to look exactly like
a physical print out _regardless_ of the editing software being a word
processor, graphics program, web browser, computer aided design suite,
desktop publishing software, charting/plotting/rendering whatever
software. If it can print sheets of paper, it can also print PDF. You
can not edit the output of arbitrary software with your word processor.
The PDF extension which dissembles arbitrary PDF chunks into Draw
elements is a master piece. Of course, it does not fulfill the high
flying expectations of the united front of ignorants.


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[libreoffice-users] Fields always marked as spelling errors

2014-12-30 Thread CVAlkan
Hi:

This is a trivial issue, but every field in my Writer documents is displayed
with a blue squiggly line beneath it just as if it were a spelling error.
I've looked around in vain for a way to disable spell checking of fields (if
that is indeed what is causing the annoyance).

By field I mean things like page numbers, cross-references and such.
Cross-references to reference rather than page number seem to be a
special case, though, as sometimes they only have the squiggly line in
footnotes, but sometimes it appears in both body text as well as footnotes.

The Tools|Options sections of Writer only seem to permit changing (or
eliminating) the normal background color used to mark the fields, and I was
unable to locate anything in the spell check stuff to ignore fields.

This is obviously a pretty trivial thing, but if anyone knows why this
happens or if there is anything I can do to clean up the display I would
appreciate it.

Thanks, and have a great New Year.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: PDF Extnension for Libre Office/Writer or Open Office

2014-12-30 Thread CVAlkan
Re: several of the things Anne-ology talks about:

This list is only for programs I have used under Linux that have some of or
all the capabilities she talks about.

pdfSAM - SAM stands for Split And Merge; the interface is rather
user-hostile, but it does a good job of allowing you to grab arbitrary pages
from one or multiple documents and get them assembled into a new pdf.

pdf Chain - similar, but permits specified pages to be rotated, and allows
you to add background stuff (e.g. a transparent image saying DRAFT) to the
output.

pdf Mod- similar to the others, and also allows you to change the document
properties (edit or remove title, author, keywords, and such things). It
also allows rotation of arbitrary pages.

pdf-Shuffler - permits you to crop selected pages by percentage (separate
spec for top, bottom, and each side - I use this to get pdf files onto my
Nook Color with the smallest margins possible to avoid having to keep
stretching each page while I'm reading). Again, there are some quirks in
the user interface, such as how one needs to click the beginning page and
end page to set a range - the column layout makes this work somewhat
strangely, but you get used to it quickly).

As others have already said, pdf is really not similar to other file
formats in that each page is a separate chunk, although the elements can be
manipulated to a certain degree. It's similar to saving a paper copy of the
document as a universal reference in that no matter how MS or TDF change
formats (or like all those dearly departed earlier companies did), you'll
still have something that can be printed (although not easily edited) in the
future. Maybe... 

If you choose to embed the fonts used in the original (at least all of the
characters in use), this can be quite useful. Sending a pdf to someone is
almost guaranteed to permit them to read it without going through all the
hoops necessary to convert to another format. Again, mostly...

I hope this helps.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: PDFs

2014-12-30 Thread anne-ology
   what ???

   In actually printing the data -
 (in my experience) -
from a PDF file, there's a lot of blank pages, gobbledegook,
extraneous lines criss-crossing, as well as extremely wide margins - all of
which not only wastes paper but makes for a quite messy printed page(s).

   So other than those who think they're ecrypting the data why does
anyone use a program which makes such a mess - and as for encrypting the
data; well, I've been able to open any of these PDFs without waiting for
whatever code - after receiving whatever codes, the outcome is never any
better.



From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
Date: Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 4:42 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: PDFs
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Am 30.12.2014 um 03:16 schrieb anne-ology:
Thank you for this information -
 I did not realize that PDFs were not merely a strange sort of
 word document  ;-)
(I have not liked PDFs;
have not understood the continual use of them - although some
 seem to encrypt them)






_Any_ software able to send print jobs can generate PDF by sending the
print job to a software rather than a print device.
And that very same _Any_ software is the software to edit your data and
then send another print job to the PDF generator exactly like you would
print new paper sheets after editing the original data. PDF is not a
document format. It is a virtual print out designed to look exactly like
a physical print out _regardless_ of the editing software being a word
processor, graphics program, web browser, computer aided design suite,
desktop publishing software, charting/plotting/rendering whatever
software. If it can print sheets of paper, it can also print PDF. You
can not edit the output of arbitrary software with your word processor.
The PDF extension which dissembles arbitrary PDF chunks into Draw
elements is a master piece. Of course, it does not fulfill the high
flying expectations of the united front of ignorants.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: PDF Extnension for Libre Office/Writer or Open Office

2014-12-30 Thread anne-ology
   Thank you for this insightful,  informative, statement.



From: CVAlkan fobe...@enteract.com
Date: Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 9:21 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: PDF Extnension for Libre Office/Writer or
Open Office
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Re: several of the things Anne-ology talks about:

This list is only for programs I have used under Linux that have some of or
all the capabilities she talks about.

pdfSAM - SAM stands for Split And Merge; the interface is rather
user-hostile, but it does a good job of allowing you to grab arbitrary pages
from one or multiple documents and get them assembled into a new pdf.

pdf Chain - similar, but permits specified pages to be rotated, and allows
you to add background stuff (e.g. a transparent image saying DRAFT) to the
output.

pdf Mod- similar to the others, and also allows you to change the document
properties (edit or remove title, author, keywords, and such things). It
also allows rotation of arbitrary pages.

pdf-Shuffler - permits you to crop selected pages by percentage (separate
spec for top, bottom, and each side - I use this to get pdf files onto my
Nook Color with the smallest margins possible to avoid having to keep
stretching each page while I'm reading). Again, there are some quirks in
the user interface, such as how one needs to click the beginning page and
end page to set a range - the column layout makes this work somewhat
strangely, but you get used to it quickly).

As others have already said, pdf is really not similar to other file
formats in that each page is a separate chunk, although the elements can be
manipulated to a certain degree. It's similar to saving a paper copy of the
document as a universal reference in that no matter how MS or TDF change
formats (or like all those dearly departed earlier companies did), you'll
still have something that can be printed (although not easily edited) in the
future. Maybe...

If you choose to embed the fonts used in the original (at least all of the
characters in use), this can be quite useful. Sending a pdf to someone is
almost guaranteed to permit them to read it without going through all the
hoops necessary to convert to another format. Again, mostly...

I hope this helps.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fields always marked as spelling errors

2014-12-30 Thread Andrew Pitonyak


This time I will reply using a computer so that I can more easily 
respond to the list rather than directly...


On 30.12.2014 09:59, CVAlkan wrote:
This is a trivial issue, but every field in my Writer documents is 
displayed
with a blue squiggly line beneath it just as if it were a spelling 
error.
I've looked around in vain for a way to disable spell checking of 
fields (if

that is indeed what is causing the annoyance).


Grammar checker

By field I mean things like page numbers, cross-references and 
such.
Cross-references to reference rather than page number seem to be 
a
special case, though, as sometimes they only have the squiggly line 
in
footnotes, but sometimes it appears in both body text as well as 
footnotes.


I did a quick check on a computer using the latest version of LO and 
the grammar checker did not seem to complain about things that I created 
as a test and did not flag numbers



The Tools|Options sections of Writer only seem to permit changing (or
eliminating) the normal background color used to mark the fields, and 
I was

unable to locate anything in the spell check stuff to ignore fields.

This is obviously a pretty trivial thing, but if anyone knows why 
this
happens or if there is anything I can do to clean up the display I 
would

appreciate it.


I am clueless about this (sadly). try making some changes at Tools | 
Options | Language Settings and from there you can look at Writing 
Aids and English sentence checking.


The version I just installed on a Windows box included Lightproof 
grammar checker.




Thanks, and have a great New Year.


Happy new year to you as well.

Andrew Pitonyak


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Fields always marked as spelling errors

2014-12-30 Thread CVAlkan
Thanks again.

The grammar checking on my system is LanguageTool v2.6, which may account
for the differences I see.

I'll try disabling that and installing the LightProof extension. Although it
says Latest release compatible with: LibreOffice 3.3 , LibreOffice 3.4 ,
LibreOffice 3.5 that apparently doesn't mean that it won't work with 4.x
versions, just that the author hasn't verified that.

I'll post back when I've had a chance to make that switch.

Frank



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: PDF Extnension for Libre Office/Writer or Open Office

2014-12-30 Thread Felmon Davis

On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, CVAlkan wrote:


Re: several of the things Anne-ology talks about:

This list is only for programs I have used under Linux that have some of or
all the capabilities she talks about.

pdfSAM - SAM stands for Split And Merge; the interface is rather
user-hostile, but it does a good job of allowing you to grab arbitrary pages
from one or multiple documents and get them assembled into a new pdf.

pdf Chain - similar, but permits specified pages to be rotated, and allows
you to add background stuff (e.g. a transparent image saying DRAFT) to the
output.


I'd add pdftk which does a lot of the above. in addition it allows 
encryption.


F.



pdf Mod- similar to the others, and also allows you to change the document
properties (edit or remove title, author, keywords, and such things). It
also allows rotation of arbitrary pages.

pdf-Shuffler - permits you to crop selected pages by percentage (separate
spec for top, bottom, and each side - I use this to get pdf files onto my
Nook Color with the smallest margins possible to avoid having to keep
stretching each page while I'm reading). Again, there are some quirks in
the user interface, such as how one needs to click the beginning page and
end page to set a range - the column layout makes this work somewhat
strangely, but you get used to it quickly).

As others have already said, pdf is really not similar to other file
formats in that each page is a separate chunk, although the elements can be
manipulated to a certain degree. It's similar to saving a paper copy of the
document as a universal reference in that no matter how MS or TDF change
formats (or like all those dearly departed earlier companies did), you'll
still have something that can be printed (although not easily edited) in the
future. Maybe...

If you choose to embed the fonts used in the original (at least all of the
characters in use), this can be quite useful. Sending a pdf to someone is
almost guaranteed to permit them to read it without going through all the
hoops necessary to convert to another format. Again, mostly...

I hope this helps.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: PDFs

2014-12-30 Thread Felmon Davis

On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, anne-ology wrote:


  what ???

  In actually printing the data -
(in my experience) -
   from a PDF file, there's a lot of blank pages, gobbledegook,
extraneous lines criss-crossing, as well as extremely wide margins - all of
which not only wastes paper but makes for a quite messy printed page(s).

  So other than those who think they're ecrypting the data why does
anyone use a program which makes such a mess - and as for encrypting the
data; well, I've been able to open any of these PDFs without waiting for
whatever code - after receiving whatever codes, the outcome is never any
better.


I wonder what is going on here. I don't experience _any_ of this. of 
course, if the composer of the pdf set the margins wide (or narrow) 
that will show up in the pdf (as it's supposed to).


how do you open them for reading?

for my part I couldn't work at all well without pdfs, pretty much 
indispensable.


F.



From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
Date: Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 4:42 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: PDFs
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Am 30.12.2014 um 03:16 schrieb anne-ology:

   Thank you for this information -
I did not realize that PDFs were not merely a strange sort of
word document  ;-)
   (I have not liked PDFs;
   have not understood the continual use of them - although some
seem to encrypt them)







_Any_ software able to send print jobs can generate PDF by sending the
print job to a software rather than a print device.
And that very same _Any_ software is the software to edit your data and
then send another print job to the PDF generator exactly like you would
print new paper sheets after editing the original data. PDF is not a
document format. It is a virtual print out designed to look exactly like
a physical print out _regardless_ of the editing software being a word
processor, graphics program, web browser, computer aided design suite,
desktop publishing software, charting/plotting/rendering whatever
software. If it can print sheets of paper, it can also print PDF. You
can not edit the output of arbitrary software with your word processor.
The PDF extension which dissembles arbitrary PDF chunks into Draw
elements is a master piece. Of course, it does not fulfill the high
flying expectations of the united front of ignorants.

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[libreoffice-users] Deleting 2nd page in Libre Writer 4.3.5.2

2014-12-30 Thread charles meyer
Hi Folks,

I just up[graded to the latest Libre Office version 4.3.5.2 and I've
found it's quite different than my older 3.0 version.

I have a 2 page document (opened as a .jpg) in Libre Writer but I
can't seem to find how I would delete the 2nd page so I can save the
document as one page.

I Googled How do I delete a page in Libre Writer 4.3.5.2 and the
results were just about where I could download the program.

Thanks so much.

Charles.

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[libreoffice-users] PDF Extnension for Libre Office/Writer or Open Office

2014-12-30 Thread charles meyer
I've discovered, at least with my new Libre Office 4.3.5.2, that I can
open a PDF or .jpg in Writer and not have to open Draw.

I can also insert images (from file) into these respective documents
and then print them to a PDF, if desired, or save as .odt, MS Word,
etc.

This was a pleasure to discover and helps enormously.

I hope it's helpful to others as well.

Happy New Year!

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Deleting 2nd page in Libre Writer 4.3.5.2

2014-12-30 Thread Paul
Hi Charles,

I'm afraid there is some confusion here:


On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 15:49:47 -0500
charles meyer reachmepl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a 2 page document (opened as a .jpg) in Libre Writer

If the file is a .jpg, it's not a document, it's a picture, and should
then open in LibreOffice Draw, not Writer. If it is a document, and
opened in Writer, it should not be a .jpg.


 but I can't seem to find how I would delete the 2nd page so I can
 save the document as one page.

If this is a document, then you don't delete pages, you delete the
contents (which is just text, formatted in one way or another), until
there is only enough to fit on a single page. If there is too much
content, Writer will automatically make it go onto the next page.

Of course, you can make the font of the text smaller (and maybe the
margins wider and that sort of thing), so that with the same content, it
takes up less space and perhaps fits on a single page.

If you really have a .jpg file, an image, then it should not open in
Writer, it should open in Draw. Unless you are trying to insert the
picture into a text document. In either case if the image is so large
that it takes up two pages, then you should be able to resize the image
to fit on one page.

This makes the image itself smaller, so may not be what you want.
Instead, you may want to edit the image in Draw and remove some of the
contents of the image, so that it takes up less space and fits on one
page.

All this depends on what you want to achieve. Are you trying to get
what you currently have small enough to fit on a single page, or are you
trying to remove some of what you currently have, so that what you are
left with is small enough to fit on one page?

Your question was a little confusing, so I thought it best to explain
in detail; please ignore any of the above that you already know.
Hopefully some of what I've said is new and gives you the hint you need
to figure out how to solve your problem.


Paul


 
 I Googled How do I delete a page in Libre Writer 4.3.5.2 and the
 results were just about where I could download the program.
 
 Thanks so much.
 
 Charles.
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] PDF Extnension for Libre Office/Writer or Open Office

2014-12-30 Thread anne-ology
   would you please explain how you're able to open these PDFs so.



From: charles meyer reachmepl...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:57 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] PDF Extnension for Libre Office/Writer or Open
Office
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


I've discovered, at least with my new Libre Office 4.3.5.2, that I can
open a PDF or .jpg in Writer and not have to open Draw.

I can also insert images (from file) into these respective documents
and then print them to a PDF, if desired, or save as .odt, MS Word,
etc.

This was a pleasure to discover and helps enormously.

I hope it's helpful to others as well.

Happy New Year!

Charles.

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