Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer 5.1.1.3 - space correction between text words

[Brian Barker]

At 13:55 28/04/2016 -0400, Charles Meyer wrote:
I'm trying to adjust spaces between characters in text words 
formatted for a resume.


I very much hope you are not. Unless you are German and using letter 
spacing to indicate emphasis, you should not be tinkering with 
spacing between characters within words (as you clearly describe 
here) unless you are an expert in typography and fonts.


I have the paragraph symbol turned on so I can see that paragraph 
icon at the end of every line of text.


Again, this is very much what you should not be seeing. That symbol 
shows the end of a paragraph, so it definitely should not be 
appearing at the end of each line of text. Unless your message has 
been delayed from the second millennium, you should not be using a 
typewriter but a word processor, in which text within a paragraph 
flows naturally between lines as necessary to fit the page size and 
margins. If those end-of-paragraph marks show at the end of each 
line, you have unwisely broken your real paragraphs into separate 
one-line paragraphs - which will prevent the word processor doing its 
job effectively. The one exception to this is if the passage consists 
of a set of separate items each of less than a full line, as a 
bulleted or numbered list might do in a document such as you describe 
- but even then not for the whole document.


Some text words have larger spaces between the words than others. 
The larger spaces make the sentences look awkward because the spaces 
between the words are too large. Other text words look appropriately 
close to the following word. Is there some way to adjust this 
spacing between text words?


Good: you are now talking instead about spacing between words, not 
within words.


Text can be distributed within lines in various ways: left aligned, 
centred, right aligned, or justified. The first three modes will 
maintain constant, standard spacing between words, but the last 
intentionally expands spaces between words in order to fill all lines 
with text between the margins. If you don't want your text justified, 
don't use that mode. The mode is specified on the Alignment tabs of 
the Paragraph and Paragraph Style dialogues.


Note that for justified text, there is an ambiguity of how the last 
line of a paragraph should be treated. Often this is not justified, 
so it will instead have standard word spacing. But it is possible to 
have such lines also justified, at the expense of possibly much 
larger word spacing - even unattractively so. If your text includes a 
genuine list of single-line paragraphs and you have this option 
selected, the line spacing may well appear strange and ugly. You can 
choose left alignment instead or you can disable the justification of 
final lines of justified paragraphs by choosing an option other than 
Justified for "Last line" on the Alignment tab of the Paragraph or 
Paragraph Style dialogue.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO for Android - is there more than a Viewer available? Beta maybe?

[Italo Vignoli]

LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice - plus NeoOffice and probably some other 
office suite - have been forked out of OpenOffice.org at different times. The 
LGPL source code has ended it's life in June 2011, when the move to Apache 
Foundation inspired by IBM has deliberately changed the license from copyleft 
to permissive and replaced all copyleft code with permissive code, with a more 
substancial amount of changes than the LibreOffice fork.

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> Il giorno 29 apr 2016, alle ore 03:30, James Knott  
> ha scritto:
> 
>> On 04/28/2016 06:02 PM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
>> I chose LibreOffice over all of the forks out there.
> 
> Ummm...  LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice.
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO for Android - is there more than a Viewer available? Beta maybe?

[James Knott]

On 04/28/2016 06:02 PM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
> I chose LibreOffice over all of the forks out there.

Ummm...  LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO for Android - is there more than a Viewer available? Beta maybe?

[Andreas Säger]

Am 29.04.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster:
> 
> I would rather have a LibreOffice for Android instead of Open Office for
> Android.
> 

I trust that the developers who made this happen know exactly what they
are doing.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Online

[Pedro]

nasrin khaksar wrote
> what do you mean?
> is it like microsoft office 2016?
> i did not test microsoft newer versions but i heard that some works
> installation, saving files and some fonctions need connection to the
> internet.

I have no idea if it's like MS Office 2016. I never used it. But it is open
source and it is not proprietary so it is certainly better :)


nasrin khaksar wrote
> i think its good for job projects, businesses, organazation and some
> work that not private and we are in a hurry and want to get help from
> someone or share our experience!

Obviously this is not useful for everybody. An online office suite like
open365 doesn't make sense for personal use in places where access to the
internet is limited. But maybe for an ONG with several PCs connected to an
intranet it is worth considering...

The idea is to have the office installed in your own server so that all
users have the same stable version and don't have to worry if the software
is updated.
On the other hand if everybody in a organization is using LibreOffice then
there is really no reason to use MS file formats...

Maybe this is the beginning of a GOOD thing!



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO for Android - is there more than a Viewer available? Beta maybe?

[Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

I would rather have a LibreOffice for Android instead of Open Office for 
Android.


I chose LibreOffice over all of the forks out there.  Since LibreOffice 
has a "brand", according to the web site, I choose its brand over the 
"brands" of those other forks that were developed over the past 4 or 5 
years.



On 04/28/2016 04:32 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:

Do you really believe in brands?



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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO for Android - is there more than a Viewer available? Beta maybe?

[Andreas Säger]

Do you really believe in brands?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer 5.1.1.3 - space correction between text words

[Kruno]

28.04.2016 u 20:24, Joe Conner je napisao/la:
Select the text, FORMAT -> PARAGRAPH -> ALIGNMENT Tab -> OPTIONS, then 
put the radio button bullet on left justify.


Or he could hyphenate words.

On the first word after awkward line hit Ctrl + - (ctrl and that hyphen 
character just right of the period/dot) at the valid brake point:


From:

Some   awkward   sentence.
Hyphenated first word of next sentence.

You could have:

Some  awkward   sentence. Hype-
nated first word of next sentence.




On 04/28/2016 10:55 AM, charles meyer wrote:

Hi Folks,

I’m trying to adjust spaces between characters in text words formatted
for a resume. I have the paragraph symbol turned on so I can see that
paragraph icon at the end of every line of text.

Some text words have larger spaces between the words than others. The
larger spaces make the sentences look awkward because the spaces
between the words are too large.

Other text words look appropriately close to the following word.

Is there some way to adjust this spacing between text words?

Thanks so much.

Charles.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer 5.1.1.3 - space correction between text words

[Joe Conner]

Select the text, FORMAT -> PARAGRAPH -> ALIGNMENT Tab -> OPTIONS, then 
put the radio button bullet on left justify.


On 04/28/2016 10:55 AM, charles meyer wrote:

Hi Folks,

I’m trying to adjust spaces between characters in text words formatted
for a resume. I have the paragraph symbol turned on so I can see that
paragraph icon at the end of every line of text.

Some text words have larger spaces between the words than others. The
larger spaces make the sentences look awkward because the spaces
between the words are too large.

Other text words look appropriately close to the following word.

Is there some way to adjust this spacing between text words?

Thanks so much.

Charles.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO for Android - is there more than a Viewer available? Beta maybe?

[Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

On 04/28/2016 01:24 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 28.04.2016 um 17:55 schrieb Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster:

With the posts about iOS version is not available [on the Website list],
I remember reading something about an Android version that was more than
just a Viewer.

Is there an Android version yet, that can edit documents?  Even if it is
a Beta version.


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice


I forgot about that package.

Actually, I tried it on my older tablet but did not have an external 
keyboard at that time.  Maybe this newer tablet would have better luck 
with that package.


I wonder when some of our developers get that type of viewer/editor for 
the LibreOffice "brand".  Right now I was forced to use the free Word 
for Android package, which keeps trying to have me use their online 
services.  In Win10, I keep getting a message insisting that I log into 
their Cloud services every time I switch to Win10's boot to use a couple 
of graphic packages I need to use and does not have the same "filters 
and functions" with GIMP or other Linux graphics packages.






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[libreoffice-users] Libre Writer 5.1.1.3 - space correction between text words

[charles meyer]

Hi Folks,

I’m trying to adjust spaces between characters in text words formatted
for a resume. I have the paragraph symbol turned on so I can see that
paragraph icon at the end of every line of text.

Some text words have larger spaces between the words than others. The
larger spaces make the sentences look awkward because the spaces
between the words are too large.

Other text words look appropriately close to the following word.

Is there some way to adjust this spacing between text words?

Thanks so much.

Charles.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO for Android - is there more than a Viewer available? Beta maybe?

[Andreas Säger]

Am 28.04.2016 um 17:55 schrieb Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster:
> With the posts about iOS version is not available [on the Website list],
> I remember reading something about an Android version that was more than
> just a Viewer.
> 
> Is there an Android version yet, that can edit documents?  Even if it is
> a Beta version.
> 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Online

[Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

There are many articles, which I have read over the years, where they 
have issues of storing "personal" files and some do not like the use of 
cloud systems unless it uses a heavy duty encryption system for the 
whole process, including during the upload/download process over the Net.


To be honest, with all I have read, I do not "trust" Cloud services that 
are not located in and administered by the business IT department.


The need for a "secured" WiFi access point is another drawback.  I 
rarely am able to find any WiFi access where I need to use my laptop, or 
tablet, outside my home/office network.  The only access I have outside 
my apartment is my own WiFi network, when I place a secondary access 
point so I can use it in the common area[s] 10 floors below it in living 
room window.


Actually, with Ubuntu having a Cloud version, it might be easier to 
setup your own Cloud service in your home/work environment so can 
"trust" the service.




On 04/28/2016 12:07 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:

hello.
what do you mean?
is it like microsoft office 2016?
i did not test microsoft newer versions but i heard that some works
installation, saving files and some fonctions need connection to the
internet.
i think its good for job projects, businesses, organazation and some
work that not private and we are in a hurry and want to get help from
someone or share our experience!
thanks and god bless you.

On 4/25/16, Pedro  wrote:

Bo Siltberg wrote

The site wants me to install a client, what is this client used for?
My antivirus program claims it contained "Variant.Graftor.5639" and
deleted
it...

The client is exactly the same as the Dropbox (or Microsoft's OneDrive)
client. It syncs the cloud files with a folder on your drive. The advantage
is that if you don't have internet connection you can still use the offline
LibreOffice to work on the offline file and it will be synced when you are
connected. In addition it is a backup on your own computer so if the cloud
service is discontinued you still have your files, which to me makes all
sense ;)

I believe your antivirus is being overcautious about a program that is
uploading files to the internet (but that is how a sync client should work)

Hope this helps
(again, I'm not affiliated to the service or company, I'm just spreading
what I consider good news, so don't shoot the messenger )



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Online

[nasrin khaksar]

hello.
what do you mean?
is it like microsoft office 2016?
i did not test microsoft newer versions but i heard that some works
installation, saving files and some fonctions need connection to the
internet.
i think its good for job projects, businesses, organazation and some
work that not private and we are in a hurry and want to get help from
someone or share our experience!
thanks and god bless you.

On 4/25/16, Pedro  wrote:
> Bo Siltberg wrote
>> The site wants me to install a client, what is this client used for?
>> My antivirus program claims it contained "Variant.Graftor.5639" and
>> deleted
>> it...
>
> The client is exactly the same as the Dropbox (or Microsoft's OneDrive)
> client. It syncs the cloud files with a folder on your drive. The advantage
> is that if you don't have internet connection you can still use the offline
> LibreOffice to work on the offline file and it will be synced when you are
> connected. In addition it is a backup on your own computer so if the cloud
> service is discontinued you still have your files, which to me makes all
> sense ;)
>
> I believe your antivirus is being overcautious about a program that is
> uploading files to the internet (but that is how a sync client should work)
>
> Hope this helps
> (again, I'm not affiliated to the service or company, I'm just spreading
> what I consider good news, so don't shoot the messenger )
>
>
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[libreoffice-users] LO for Android - is there more than a Viewer available? Beta maybe?

[Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

With the posts about iOS version is not available [on the Website list], 
I remember reading something about an Android version that was more than 
just a Viewer.


Is there an Android version yet, that can edit documents?  Even if it is 
a Beta version.


I am running Android 4.4.x on a 10 inch tablet with a Bluetooth keyboard 
built into the tablet case.


I really would love to have a LibreOffice fork to Android, instead of 
other "brand", to work with ODF files and maybe .doc ones as well.  I 
need something more than a viewer for the "simple" documents I would 
create on my tablet at various places outside my apartment, like doctor 
office waiting areas or other places where my laptop would not is not 
welcome.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc- print specific pages...but what are the page numbers?

[Tom Davies]

Hi  :)
Yes, I was wondering about just using print preview to find out the page
numbers and see how the whole thing looks.   It's a bit simplistic but may
be as much as you need right now.
Regards from
Tom :)
On 28 Apr 2016 13:59, "Brian Barker"  wrote:

> At 08:34 28/04/2016 -0400, Craig Noname wrote:
>
>> On a single LO Calc spreadsheet file that I have there are many pages on
>> different sheets that need to be printed but I'd like to exclude specific
>> pages. That's fine and well but I have no idea what the sheet page numbers
>> are. What should I do?
>>
>
> It's difficult to see how you can know that some *pages* are not required
> unless you have a clear idea of the page structure. In this case, you would
> know what pages these were.
>
> There are two ways to think of this, I think:
>
> o Set print ranges. Go to Format | Print Ranges > | Define and Format |
> Print Ranges > | Edit... and mark all the material that you need to print.
> Note that any print range set anywhere in your spreadsheet will suppress
> any material not so marked, even on other sheets.
>
> o First control the page structure of your printed document using breaks.
> Go to Insert | Manual Break > | Row Break and Insert | Manual Break > |
> Column Break to do this. Then go to View | Page Break Preview to display
> the relevant page numbers to print.
>
> You may also find the scaling facilities helpful - at Format | Page... |
> Sheet | Scale | Scaling mode.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc- print specific pages...but what are the page numbers?

[Brian Barker]

At 08:34 28/04/2016 -0400, Craig Noname wrote:
On a single LO Calc spreadsheet file that I have there are many 
pages on different sheets that need to be printed but I'd like to 
exclude specific pages. That's fine and well but I have no idea what 
the sheet page numbers are. What should I do?


It's difficult to see how you can know that some *pages* are not 
required unless you have a clear idea of the page structure. In this 
case, you would know what pages these were.


There are two ways to think of this, I think:

o Set print ranges. Go to Format | Print Ranges > | Define and Format 
| Print Ranges > | Edit... and mark all the material that you need to 
print. Note that any print range set anywhere in your spreadsheet 
will suppress any material not so marked, even on other sheets.


o First control the page structure of your printed document using 
breaks. Go to Insert | Manual Break > | Row Break and Insert | Manual 
Break > | Column Break to do this. Then go to View | Page Break 
Preview to display the relevant page numbers to print.


You may also find the scaling facilities helpful - at Format | 
Page... | Sheet | Scale | Scaling mode.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc- print specific pages...but what are the page numbers?

[Dries Feys]

Hi Craig,

In version 5, you can select multiple sheets with the shift key pressed.

Then, in the print dialog you can select to print only the selected sheets.

Don't know about previous versions, but I guess it will be similar.

On 28 April 2016 at 14:34, l...@ipadring.net  wrote:
>
> On a single LO Calc spreadsheet file that I have there are many pages on
> different sheets that need to be printed but I'd like to exclude
> specific pages.  That's fine and well but I have no idea what the sheet
> page numbers are.
>
> What should I do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig
>
>
>
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[libreoffice-users] Calc- print specific pages...but what are the page numbers?

[l...@ipadring.net]

On a single LO Calc spreadsheet file that I have there are many pages on
different sheets that need to be printed but I'd like to exclude
specific pages.  That's fine and well but I have no idea what the sheet
page numbers are.

What should I do?

Thanks,

Craig



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