Re: [libreoffice-users] on Recovery

[Tanstaafl]

On 5/10/2016 4:12 PM, Xen  wrote:
> Tanstaafl schreef op 10-05-2016 21:45:
>> Please post the bug number for the enhancement request you have filed 
>> to change the recovery system.

> You know very well that I have not filed a bug report, or you would not 
> have written that.

Ok, so you're not stupid, just a lazy ranter.

> In the words of Saddam Hussein, as he was being prosecuted "Please don't 
> make me speak in a way that none of us wants" ;-).
> 
> If no one is interested, why should I post any of that?

Objection: assumes facts not in evidence.

> Besides, I would have to make an account and become an employee first.

Objection: false presumption.

> That defeats the purpose of saying this as an outsider, and makes me 
> immediately a volunteer who can not any longer really have an 
> independent vision.

Objection: ridiculous assertion.

> It also means I have to dedicate time and energy to the actual 
> development of the "feature" when I am busy doing other things, such as 
> developing my own things.

Objection: I hurt my ass when I laughed it off.

> I don't have time to spend on the development of everything I have an 
> idea about.

Objection: false claim. You do have time, you just choose to spend it
engaging in impotent ranting rather than constructive criticism.

Nite nite.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] on Recovery

[Xen]

Tanstaafl schreef op 10-05-2016 21:45:

Please post the bug number for the enhancement request you have filed 
to

change the recovery system.


You know very well that I have not filed a bug report, or you would not 
have written that.


In the words of Saddam Hussein, as he was being prosecuted "Please don't 
make me speak in a way that none of us wants" ;-).


If no one is interested, why should I post any of that?

Besides, I would have to make an account and become an employee first. 
That defeats the purpose of saying this as an outsider, and makes me 
immediately a volunteer who can not any longer really have an 
independent vision.


It also means I have to dedicate time and energy to the actual 
development of the "feature" when I am busy doing other things, such as 
developing my own things.


I don't have time to spend on the development of everything I have an 
idea about.


I gave you my idea, if you don't appreciate it, fine.

That's all I need to do right? Give an idea, and people will pick it up 
if they want. I can't become an employee to your company, just like 
that.


Here is the video btw, and you will know why I referenced that speech:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEjUicecpSI

Regards.

(this is a user list as well, not a developer list. You've got to do 
some work, too.)


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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice user support

[V Stuart Foote]

@Louise,


MORGAN, Louise wrote
> I would like to check whether this is the correct address to use for
> LibreOffice user support? I also wanted to ask how the user support works,
> when, as I understand it, LibreOffice is a community-developed software -
> is communication open publicly?

Yes LibreOffice user support is via public  Mail List with several services
providing archival access to the ML.

However there are multiple public "support" channels for the project
forcusing on different facets, all accessible from this Document Foundation
web page.

https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/community-support/

For those requiring direct or non-public support, direct email and paid
commercial support is certainly available.

Post back if you need specifics.

Stuart



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Re: [libreoffice-users] on Recovery

[Tanstaafl]

Please post the bug number for the enhancement request you have filed to
change the recovery system.

On 5/5/2016 9:00 AM, Xen  wrote:
> One year ago Calligra had a feature (and probably still has) of 
> presenting a same kind of recovery dialog to the user.
> 
> I couldn't tell in advance what was in the recovery and what was in the 
> source.
> 
> I pressed open without recovering.
> 
> I realized I had lost changes.
> 
> The recovery file had already been deleted.
> 
> This is Russian Roulette, this is a Casino.
> 
> You have to make a blind guess what's gonna be what, and if you press 
> the wrong button, you're fucked.
> 
> I mean please everyone, change this system. Whatever software you have 
> or are working on, change this system that seems to be pervasive across 
> open source apps.
> 
> Don't recover files that are identical. Perform a diff for fucks sake.
> 
> Do just anything that makes it better, please. But if you tell the 
> vim crowd, they will laugh you in your face, and maybe this happens here 
> too, I don't know.
> 
> Also wanted to say that I think the mailing list overview page of 
> LibreOffice is just outstanding. I absolutely love the colour (green) 
> and the layout and visual design of the page (body) is just beyond 
> excellent. I don't much like the monochrome looking logo (Reminds me of 
> Breeze, and pretty much everyone hates it) and the top bar could be 
> better too, but the entire body of the page including the footers and 
> all is just amazingly done. The only thing that would ever need changing 
> would be the top bar. Doesn't quite entirely agree with it. Anyway.
> 
> I guess this is a statement about the entire website and I am not 
> writing to the design team but absolute kudos for this visual appearance 
> and the great ease with which to find information and to subscribe.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bart.
> 
> 
> Xen schreef op 05-05-2016 14:43:
> 
> 
> 


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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice user support

[MORGAN, Louise]

Hi,

I would like to check whether this is the correct address to use for 
LibreOffice user support? I also wanted to ask how the user support works, 
when, as I understand it, LibreOffice is a community-developed software - is 
communication open publicly?

With best wishes,

Louise Morgan



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc macro tutorial

[Andrew Pitonyak]

Dave, I am copying you directly since I do not know if the email client 
I am currently using will copy to the list; sorry about that, but I 
thought you might like my response faster than several hours from now 
when I am using my standard email client.


On 10.05.2016 13:52, dave boland wrote:
I want to automate a Calc spreadsheet to do some data analysis.  I 
need

some help finding a complete tutorial on Calc macros.  Looking for
something like the books published for Excell.


Not familiar with them


I read the documentation, but it says user created macros are beyond 
the
scope of the documentation. REALLY!  What the heck is the 
documentation

for then?


Done by volunteers and the documentation at which you looked was beyond 
their scope.


http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1

Chapter 12 specifically says "Macros"
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1/cg4-1-ch12-calc-macros/view

Chapter 13 contains numerous macro tutorials and examples (well, it did 
when I wrote the first draft some years back)

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/published-lo-4.1/cg4-1-ch13-calc-as-simple-database/view

Or, try here:
http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
This site contains numerous documents. You might want to look at these 
two documents. The first is a book and the second is more of a list of 
macros that accomplish certain tasks. It is kind of a roughly sorted 
brain dump.


http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt
http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt


Tried the chat, wants to know what channel.  What the heck is that?


No idea.


Tried the web version of this mail group, but it would not accept the
catcha code.


Hate those!


I'm growing frustrated and very angry.


Wait until you try to write macros. I mean, ummm, sorry you are 
frustrated and angry.


LO Macros are very powerful in that they directly use the internal 
object structure and it is easy to add support for other languages. The 
disadvantage is that it has a steep learning curve, especially if you do 
not already understand software development. I usually recommend that 
people begin with an example that is close to what they need. The 
general language structure is essentially identical, but, for the most 
part, document manipulation methods is very different.



This is supposed to be user support?


It is community support. You did not pay for the product and the people 
who will now try to help you are all volunteers; they do it because they 
like to help people as part of a community.


If you do not care for email type support, be sure to check out this 
forum


https://forum.openoffice.org/en

They have some very competent Macro people hanging out in the macro 
forums.



Best of luck!



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Andrew Pitonyak


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[libreoffice-users] Calc macro tutorial

[dave boland]

I want to automate a Calc spreadsheet to do some data analysis.  I need
some help finding a complete tutorial on Calc macros.  Looking for
something like the books published for Excell.

I read the documentation, but it says user created macros are beyond the
scope of the documentation. REALLY!  What the heck is the documentation
for then?

Tried the chat, wants to know what channel.  What the heck is that?

Tried the web version of this mail group, but it would not accept the
catcha code.  I'm growing frustrated and very angry.  This is supposed
to be user support?

Dave,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc HH:MM:SS to decimal

[Joe Conner]

It would be nice if there were a built in calc function to display a 
number as degrees of a circle, rather than using a formula to convert 
radians to degrees.


On 05/07/2016 01:13 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
And has given me ideas on using this feature for storing and handling 
angles in degrees:minutes:seconds to generate traverse tables.

Steve <>



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base-Conect an external spreadsheet data

[jorge]

Hi all:

Using Google I found some web sites where I could learn my first
lessons about SQL. With this I could solve my problem to Group my data
in BASE.

But then, I found that the file Spreadsheet that I've using was locked
(user permissions). Well I made a copy of the file with my permissions
and then make the db with Base conection and I could group with Wizard
of BASE.

Thank so much to all that thought to help me but not had time.


P.D.: Web site I used: https://www.1keydata.com/es/sql/

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez




El dom, 08-05-2016 a las 21:54 -0600, jorge escribió:
> Good night, hi all:
> 
>   I have two options when I conect to a external spreadsheet data with
> BASE:
> 
> 1) Conect with the third option when start the wizard selecting:
> spreadsheet.
> 
> In this case we can import the structure and data from it.
> 
> The first options is keep the conections with the original spreadsheet,
> in other words, we can't modifie the structure import and use functions
> when make a Consult for example (At least with my little knowledge).
> 
> Depend what you are going to do with data, is enough as is.
> 
> 2) The second option is when we conect to external data because we need
> to work we them with all options that usually offer BASE when we create
> a new data base. In this situations we need import data but then split
> conection with original data and make an independent data base.
> 
> At least I can't do this with BASE.
> 
> Would you please answer this:
> 
> a) With SQL options we can use the function "group" or other funtions
> when make a Consult to solve my problem ? or with a Macro ?
> 
> b) If not (Point a)), where I can expose this situation that would be
> improbe BASE in the future ?
> 
> -- 
> Atentamente,
> 
> Jorge Rodríguez
> 
> 

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