Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Struggling with Hebrew in LO

[jonathon]

On 26/10/2016 18:36, CVAlkan wrote:

> substituting fonts unnecessarily when you switch, even if you have 
> specifically selected a font containing both scripts/languages you are using.

Does the bad font substitution go away, if you manually add foundry data
to the font?

jonathon


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[libreoffice-users] local help

[anne-ology]

   Many on this list use LO writer, etc. - although many do not live in
California;

  If you ask your question(s) here, I - & I'm sure others - will be
glad to offer helpful advice.




From: Dan Devor 
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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 12:24:25 -0700
Subject: [libreoffice-users] local help

I live in Riverside California. I need to meet or contact someone who can
assist me with styles in Libre writer. Is there someone who understands
Libre and would volunteer at most a half hour to help me?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] objects that are drawn in Calc move when file is saved or rows added above

[libreoffice-ml . mbourne]

Henry Sikkema wrote:

I have a Calc file in LibreOffice 5.2.1.2 on Windows 10 Home 64 bit.

When I add or remove lines, the drawn objects (like a triangle or crescent)
change size and location. Here is the file: Genetics file
 (see rows 32 to 60 - the large
triangle has become large and moves if rows are added above it.)

This also occurs when I save the file and exit then re-open the file.

Any suggestions?


If the drawing objects are anchored "to cell", they grow and shrink as 
rows and columns are added and removed within the area of the shape. If 
anchored "to page", they do not have that behaviour.


If you need the shape anchored to cell (e.g. so that it moves down to 
stay with the text as rows are added above it), you can fix its size by 
selecting the shape then Format > Object > Position and Size > Position 
and Size > Protect > Size.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Shortcut for Dropping Many Photos Into Writer Doc

[gordon cooper]

On 26/10/16 06:39, Hal Vaughan wrote:

I have to prepare a report to send to a governmental agency to get approval for 
something for our new lot.  That involves sending in a large number of photos, 
with comments and descriptions, for documentation of what the area is like.

I’m looking at a document with 30+ photos in it.

It’s not a major issue, but is there an easy shortcut to just drop them all in 
there, then arrange them as I go?  Or do I just need to keep inserting photos 
as I get to each one?


Thanks!



Hal

Hal,
   You could do this either way. I prefer to insert as I get to the 
correct part of the text, this way
you can fit/size them to suit the script, so that you do not have a 
massive re-editing task later.

Suggest you look at the Help, for details of how to insert images.

Gordon.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Shortcut for Dropping Many Photos Into Writer Doc

[libreoffice-ml . mbourne]

Hal Vaughan wrote:

I have to prepare a report to send to a governmental agency to get approval for 
something for our new lot.  That involves sending in a large number of photos, 
with comments and descriptions, for documentation of what the area is like.

I’m looking at a document with 30+ photos in it.

It’s not a major issue, but is there an easy shortcut to just drop them all in 
there, then arrange them as I go?  Or do I just need to keep inserting photos 
as I get to each one?


On Windows, you can select several image files in Windows Explorer, then 
drag and drop them onto a Writer document. They end up on top of each 
other, so it looks like only one has been inserted, but you can move 
them around the rest are underneath.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: need help off this list - need Linux package choice help

[CVAlkan]

... also, you can now just say:

sudo apt update
sudo apt install openshot-qt

The "-get" part isn't needed any more, although it still works.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Struggling with Hebrew in LO

[CVAlkan]

Hi Jonathan:

Welcome to the multi-language war veterans club! Your purple heart is in the
mail.

There IS actually a logic as to how characters are laid out when typing
mixed L-T-R and R-T-L text in a line or sentence, but you need to understand
that most text rendering mechanisms continue to make some unwarranted
assumptions. First off, some punctuation in "foreign" (i.e. non-Latin)
scripts is taken from what used to be called the lower ASCII characters.
This makes some sense, as there is no point in duplicating identical
characters that are used for identical purposes. BUT: when the text
rendering engines encounter such characters while typing in another script,
they decide that the typist is back to using Latin script which, as you've
seen, can be disastrous.

With Hebrew Script (used in Hebrew, Yiddish and perhaps others I'm not aware
of), there is an additional problem:

Like most languages, Hebrew uses the same set of parentheses as English, and
treats "opening" and "closing" as meaning the curve is towards the innards
of the set. Since Hebrew is written from right-to-left, however, what is an
"opening" paren in Latin scripts is a "closing" paren in Hebrew and
vice-versa. This is the reason that the opening paren is above the 9 key for
both keyboard layouts, but they face the opposite direction (the "(" is
above the "9" key on English keyboards and above the "0" key on many Hebrew
keyboards) . Because of the flaw in the way rendering engines recognize
these characters (both of which are in the "Latin" set) as indicating a
return to English, you lose! Well, you get the idea.

Arabic - another RTL script used in far more languages than Hebrew - leaves
the "(" and ")" characters in the same positions they are on English
keyboards.

If you go to LibreOffice Bug #92655
(https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92655) I attached a pdf
document there titled "General Discussion of Complex Text Attributes" which
you can download; this (and particularly page 14 ) describes some of the
details of the issue you're running into, and Hebrew is one of the specific
scripts used as an example.

Jonathon(toki)'s advice given above is spot on! If you understand what's
actually going on, and understand the characters to avoid having in certain
places and why (that's where I think my document may help you), you can
intermingle multiple directions within single lines successfully almost all
the time. Like him, I've done this for long enough to be able to get it
done, but I also have my own "tricks" to keep my head screwed on straight
when composing.

LibreOffice, which like most apps relies on an external rendering engine (I
believe it's HarfBuzz now, but am not certain) is affected by this rendering
assumption, as you have seen. You may also run into LibreOffice sometimes
substituting fonts unnecessarily when you switch, even if you have
specifically selected a font containg both scripts/languages you are using.
This results from some fonts not properly reporting which scripts and
languages they support. So the rendering engines dutifully find a substitute
font to use. It's messy. The other document attached to the same bug report
discusses many other side effects you'll need to become aware of.

You might also take a look at bug 32357 which deals with auto-completion
quirks when using multiple languages.

But it can be done: Best of Luck, and if you have other questions, or
discover new tricks, please post them.

Frank



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help Please with Printing Ranges

[Regina Henschel]

Hi,

ajebay schrieb:

Hi Bruce,
Defined the ranges as before and Edit shows Print Range, User defined as:-

$A$1:$C$165,$I$1:$I$165,$K$1:$K$165

Which is what I want.  My problem is getting the range on to paper
without big spaces because I need to be able to read across on a line.
Hope that is clear.


Each print range is printed on its own page and uses further pages, if 
the content of the range does not fit on one page. So you will get first 
some pages for $A$1:$C$165, after them some pages for $I$1:$I$165 and 
last some pages for $K$1:$K$165.


If you want to show columns A,B,C,I,K together, you need to add a sheet 
with a copy of this columns being adjacent. If you use references the 
sheet will update, if you alter the original data. You will have
in A1 =Orig.A1, in B1 =Orig.B1, in C1 =Orig.C1, in D1 =Orig.I1, and in 
E1 =Orig.K1. Of cause you need your own sheet name instead of "Orig".


Then you do not define your print range on the original data but on the 
copy, which would give you the one print range $A$1:$E$165.




Sometimes you have to print one column which is small but very long and 
you want to print all of it on one paper sheet. In such cases I use a 
trick. I define a page size, which is as wide as the column. And in the 
print dialog, I use the dialog page "Page Layout" to put several of this 
small "pages" together on one paper sheet. Most printers need the 
setting "Use only paper size from printer preferences" in such case and 
you have to set the actual paper size in the printer settings.


Kind regards
Regina




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help Please with Printing Ranges

[Bruce Hohl]

Well ... Calc is "adding" vertical page breaks between each of your defined
ranges ... I did not expect that.  Due to this instead of using a Print
Range I suggest that you group or hide columns D-H and J.  I prefer to
group: Data > Group & Outline > Group as it provides check boxes above row
1.  You will need to clear the defined print range.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:18 PM, ajebay  wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
> Defined the ranges as before and Edit shows Print Range, User defined as:-
>
> $A$1:$C$165,$I$1:$I$165,$K$1:$K$165
>
> Which is what I want.  My problem is getting the range on to paper without
> big spaces because I need to be able to read across on a line. Hope that is
> clear.
>
>
> On 26/10/2016 17:06, ajebay wrote:
>
>> Hi Bruce,
>> Thanks for the quick reply.  I haven't used the Edit, just defione and
>> add.  Will now try Edit option and report back.
>>
>> On 26/10/2016 16:22, Bruce Hohl wrote:
>>
>>> What is included at Format > Print Ranges > Edit for
>>> (1) Print Range, (2) Rows to Repeat, and (3) Columns to Repeat?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 10:50 AM, ajebay  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am trying to print only selected columns which I have defined using
 Format>Print Range>Define and Format>Print Range>Add.

 When I check using View>Page Break all the correct columns are shown but
 with large vertical gaps so what should fit on one landscape sheet is
 taking three with large parts of the page left white.

 I have tried moving breaks by dragging but get in a mess.  Also the
 preview always assumes portrait format until I set the printer to
 landscape
 and then take paper size from printer.

 There must be a better way but I am too dumb to find it.  Can somebody
 give me help please?

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[libreoffice-users] objects that are drawn in Calc move when file is saved or rows added above

[Henry Sikkema]

I have a Calc file in LibreOffice 5.2.1.2 on Windows 10 Home 64 bit.

When I add or remove lines, the drawn objects (like a triangle or crescent)
change size and location. Here is the file: Genetics file
 (see rows 32 to 60 - the large
triangle has become large and moves if rows are added above it.)

This also occurs when I save the file and exit then re-open the file.

Any suggestions?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help Please with Printing Ranges

[ajebay]

Hi Bruce,
Defined the ranges as before and Edit shows Print Range, User defined as:-

$A$1:$C$165,$I$1:$I$165,$K$1:$K$165

Which is what I want.  My problem is getting the range on to paper 
without big spaces because I need to be able to read across on a line. 
Hope that is clear.


On 26/10/2016 17:06, ajebay wrote:

Hi Bruce,
Thanks for the quick reply.  I haven't used the Edit, just defione and
add.  Will now try Edit option and report back.

On 26/10/2016 16:22, Bruce Hohl wrote:

What is included at Format > Print Ranges > Edit for
(1) Print Range, (2) Rows to Repeat, and (3) Columns to Repeat?

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 10:50 AM, ajebay  wrote:


I am trying to print only selected columns which I have defined using
Format>Print Range>Define and Format>Print Range>Add.

When I check using View>Page Break all the correct columns are shown but
with large vertical gaps so what should fit on one landscape sheet is
taking three with large parts of the page left white.

I have tried moving breaks by dragging but get in a mess.  Also the
preview always assumes portrait format until I set the printer to
landscape
and then take paper size from printer.

There must be a better way but I am too dumb to find it.  Can somebody
give me help please?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help Please with Printing Ranges

[ajebay]

Hi Bruce,
Thanks for the quick reply.  I haven't used the Edit, just defione and 
add.  Will now try Edit option and report back.


On 26/10/2016 16:22, Bruce Hohl wrote:

What is included at Format > Print Ranges > Edit for
(1) Print Range, (2) Rows to Repeat, and (3) Columns to Repeat?

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 10:50 AM, ajebay  wrote:


I am trying to print only selected columns which I have defined using
Format>Print Range>Define and Format>Print Range>Add.

When I check using View>Page Break all the correct columns are shown but
with large vertical gaps so what should fit on one landscape sheet is
taking three with large parts of the page left white.

I have tried moving breaks by dragging but get in a mess.  Also the
preview always assumes portrait format until I set the printer to landscape
and then take paper size from printer.

There must be a better way but I am too dumb to find it.  Can somebody
give me help please?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help Please with Printing Ranges

[Bruce Hohl]

What is included at Format > Print Ranges > Edit for
(1) Print Range, (2) Rows to Repeat, and (3) Columns to Repeat?

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 10:50 AM, ajebay  wrote:

> I am trying to print only selected columns which I have defined using
> Format>Print Range>Define and Format>Print Range>Add.
>
> When I check using View>Page Break all the correct columns are shown but
> with large vertical gaps so what should fit on one landscape sheet is
> taking three with large parts of the page left white.
>
> I have tried moving breaks by dragging but get in a mess.  Also the
> preview always assumes portrait format until I set the printer to landscape
> and then take paper size from printer.
>
> There must be a better way but I am too dumb to find it.  Can somebody
> give me help please?
>
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[libreoffice-users] Help Please with Printing Ranges

[ajebay]

I am trying to print only selected columns which I have defined using 
Format>Print Range>Define and Format>Print Range>Add.


When I check using View>Page Break all the correct columns are shown but 
with large vertical gaps so what should fit on one landscape sheet is 
taking three with large parts of the page left white.


I have tried moving breaks by dragging but get in a mess.  Also the 
preview always assumes portrait format until I set the printer to 
landscape and then take paper size from printer.


There must be a better way but I am too dumb to find it.  Can somebody 
give me help please?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem in opening an odt file

[Paul D. Mirowsky]

Before doing this, I would do a dd copy to some other device.

Looks like you might want to use FSCK (File System Check)

This guys problem seams similar to yours.

Begin quote..

"My external ext3 USB drive was mounted while my system crashed while I 
was messing around with a LiveCD. (Copying large files into your live 
user's home folder while booted from a LiveCD is a bad idea by the way. ).


Anyway, how can I run a filesystem check on the disk? I tried "sudo 
tune2fs -c 1 /dev/sdc1" on the USB drive and mounted and unmounted it 
with no success. Also, am I supposed to use e2fsck or fsck and do I need 
to boot into single user mode? The dire warnings of possible file system 
corruption make me rather nervous."


..End Quote

How do I fsck an external USB drive? See 
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1198673


Hope this helps.


On 10/25/2016 11:37 AM, Manoj Rathee wrote:

R/sir
I am using Ubuntu 12.0 version and libre office 3. I was doing work in
office and suddenly power has gone and in pendrive I was doing my work so
when I again started my computer and inserted pendrive then going to open
the odt file, the file did not open and an error came that is general input
opuput error. So please solve my problem and please can u repair my file
it's very very urgent.

I am from Judiciary department. Its request you to please make some
solution for this. Please reply.




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