Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-20 Thread gordon cooper

To divert a little, but not talking about Markdown.

We were looking for a simple way of of producing documents in html,
thought we were on the right track until some of the potential users
asked for pdf too.  We now use Lyx for the authoring, it produces
formatted text, without formatting marks having to be typed in.

From the Lyx master, we output in pdf and html, with DVI and xhtml
available as options.  Where Open Document format is needed, the html
can be directly pasted in to .odt, but with one failing. A Table of Contents
in Lyx loses the page links in the paste function . There is an easy
work-around, just create a new ToC in Libre Office - about 4 clicks,
and delete the original ToC.

Gordon Cooper

MX-Linux Documentation Team
Tauranga N.Z.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-20 Thread J.B. Nicholson

H wrote:

I should have been clearer. If you read my previous message you will see
that I am not looking for what you are describing, rather the ability to
read/write document and presentation files in markdown format.


This runs into the same problem -- a modern presentation program (such as 
LibreOffice's) is capable of recording many things in ODF files that can't 
be converted into markdown.


The nature of your problem is that you seek to go from a very capable 
modern format (such as ODF) to a simple format which, by design, can "only 
addresses issues that can be conveyed in plain text" (per 
https://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax).



The Multimarkdown editor supposedly can create OO files but since it does
not run on my systems I have not been able to give it a try.


Going from markdown to ODF should be fine, going the other way is naturally 
going to be lossy.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-20 Thread H

I should have been clearer. If you read my previous message you will see that I 
am not looking for what you are describing, rather the ability to read/write 
document and presentation files in markdown format.

The Multimarkdown editor supposedly can create OO files but since it does not 
run on my systems I have not been able to give it a try.


On 11/20/2016 8:26 PM, J.B. Nicholson wrote:

H wrote:

I am looking for seamless interchange between OO/LO and markdown...


I don't see how this would be possible. Any modern word processor has features 
not found in markdown, therefore each of those features would be impossible to 
seamlessly convert to markdown.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-20 Thread J.B. Nicholson

H wrote:

I am looking for seamless interchange between OO/LO and markdown...


I don't see how this would be possible. Any modern word processor has 
features not found in markdown, therefore each of those features would be 
impossible to seamlessly convert to markdown.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-20 Thread H

Yes, that does look quite promising, however, it looks like it is abandonware: 
open bugs and no updates for quite some time. Also, it talks about 
presentations, I am not sure if it would work with OO documents.

Is anyone using it? I will not have a chance to try it until next week.


On 11/20/2016 10:31 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:

H wrote on 19-11-16 21:55:


Now I would also like to create drafts of documents and of slide
presentations in markdown to later be transferred to OpenOffice or
LibreOffice Writer for finishing the text documents or OpenOffice or
LibreOffice Impress for finishing slide presentations. Ideally allowing
me to go both ways for the final version.

You'll be interested in this blog :)
https://blog.thebehrens.net/2015/03/13/announcing-odpdown-a-markdown-to-odp-converter/





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-20 Thread H

I do have Pandoc installed, have not tested it yet, but I would much prefer a 
seamless way of moving between OO/LO and markdown format. Either the native 
ability to read/save in markdown format, or a plugin doing the same.


On 11/20/2016 9:13 AM, Ricardo wrote:

El 2016-11-20 14:45, Virgil Arrington escribió:



Since Markdown is a pure text file with formatting marks inserted, you
could easily edit such a file with LO. It sounds like what you're asking
is a way to convert the Markdown file to a LO format. I'm not sure of a
direct way of doing that. You might try Pandoc, an online file converter.




Pandoc can be installed on any system, but only recent versions support ODT, so 
you need to look with version if offered by CentOS

http://pandoc.org/

Regards,
Ricardo




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-20 Thread H

I am looking for seamless interchange between OO/LO and markdown... I 
understand there is a plugin for Word, Writage, that allows one to convert 
between the different formats. However, since I do not use Word I am not able 
to try it. I have not found any such plugin for OO/LO - yet - but that would 
seem to be the perfect approach.


On 11/20/2016 8:45 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:

I've used quite a few Markdown editors. I know nothing about CentOS, so
I can't recommend anything for that OS. On Windows, I like WriteMonkey.
In Linux, the best I've seen is ReText, but last I checked, it's
developer was no longer supporting an Ubuntu PPA for the program making
installation less smooth on Ubuntu.

Since Markdown is a pure text file with formatting marks inserted, you
could easily edit such a file with LO. It sounds like what you're asking
is a way to convert the Markdown file to a LO format. I'm not sure of a
direct way of doing that. You might try Pandoc, an online file converter.

My greatest frustration with Markdown, aside from its many different
flavors, is that there doesn't seem to be a complete Markdown solution
anywhere. At best, there are add-on tools to some existing products
(like your Geany), but I've not found anything (at least in the
free-software realm) that actually includes everything you need.

I've found myself using LaTeX to create HTML files. It's htlatex
converter does a nice job and creates an easily editable .CSS file. And,
after nearly 40 years of development, it's really complete.

Virgil


On 11/20/2016 12:15 AM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 15:55 19/11/2016 -0500, Honly Noname wrote:

I am a recent convert to using [M]arkdown for creating draft
documents, outlines etc. [...] Now I would also like to create drafts
of documents and of slide presentations in markdown to later be
transferred to OpenOffice or LibreOffice Writer for finishing the
text documents or OpenOffice or LibreOffice Impress for finishing
slide presentations. [...] I do not seem able to accomplish the
latter ...

I know nothing about Markdown, but simply reading Wikipedia tells me
it can be used to produce HTML - indeed, that this is its primary
function. HTML can be opened by LibreOffice Writer and you can save as
.odt from there.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-20 Thread H

Tried it but it does not work very well. I exported one of my markdown 
documents to HTML from Markdownpad 2 but the export filter inserted lots of 
extraneous style information that I do not want. I am looking for the minimal 
information for OO/LO to understand Heading1, lists, tables etc. without adding 
any extra information.

Also, I would expect reverting to markdown format from OO/LO to be quite a mess.


On 11/20/2016 12:15 AM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 15:55 19/11/2016 -0500, Honly Noname wrote:

I am a recent convert to using [M]arkdown for creating draft documents, 
outlines etc. [...] Now I would also like to create drafts of documents and of 
slide presentations in markdown to later be transferred to OpenOffice or 
LibreOffice Writer for finishing the text documents or OpenOffice or 
LibreOffice Impress for finishing slide presentations. [...] I do not seem able 
to accomplish the latter ...


I know nothing about Markdown, but simply reading Wikipedia tells me it can be 
used to produce HTML - indeed, that this is its primary function. HTML can be 
opened by LibreOffice Writer and you can save as .odt from there.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-20 Thread Cor Nouws
H wrote on 19-11-16 21:55:

> Now I would also like to create drafts of documents and of slide
> presentations in markdown to later be transferred to OpenOffice or
> LibreOffice Writer for finishing the text documents or OpenOffice or
> LibreOffice Impress for finishing slide presentations. Ideally allowing
> me to go both ways for the final version.

You'll be interested in this blog :)
https://blog.thebehrens.net/2015/03/13/announcing-odpdown-a-markdown-to-odp-converter/


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-20 Thread Ricardo

El 2016-11-20 14:45, Virgil Arrington escribió:



Since Markdown is a pure text file with formatting marks inserted, you
could easily edit such a file with LO. It sounds like what you're 
asking

is a way to convert the Markdown file to a LO format. I'm not sure of a
direct way of doing that. You might try Pandoc, an online file 
converter.





Pandoc can be installed on any system, but only recent versions support 
ODT, so you need to look with version if offered by CentOS


http://pandoc.org/

Regards,
Ricardo

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-20 Thread Virgil Arrington
I've used quite a few Markdown editors. I know nothing about CentOS, so 
I can't recommend anything for that OS. On Windows, I like WriteMonkey. 
In Linux, the best I've seen is ReText, but last I checked, it's 
developer was no longer supporting an Ubuntu PPA for the program making 
installation less smooth on Ubuntu.

Since Markdown is a pure text file with formatting marks inserted, you 
could easily edit such a file with LO. It sounds like what you're asking 
is a way to convert the Markdown file to a LO format. I'm not sure of a 
direct way of doing that. You might try Pandoc, an online file converter.

My greatest frustration with Markdown, aside from its many different 
flavors, is that there doesn't seem to be a complete Markdown solution 
anywhere. At best, there are add-on tools to some existing products 
(like your Geany), but I've not found anything (at least in the 
free-software realm) that actually includes everything you need.

I've found myself using LaTeX to create HTML files. It's htlatex 
converter does a nice job and creates an easily editable .CSS file. And, 
after nearly 40 years of development, it's really complete.

Virgil


On 11/20/2016 12:15 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 15:55 19/11/2016 -0500, Honly Noname wrote:
>> I am a recent convert to using [M]arkdown for creating draft 
>> documents, outlines etc. [...] Now I would also like to create drafts 
>> of documents and of slide presentations in markdown to later be 
>> transferred to OpenOffice or LibreOffice Writer for finishing the 
>> text documents or OpenOffice or LibreOffice Impress for finishing 
>> slide presentations. [...] I do not seem able to accomplish the 
>> latter ...
>
> I know nothing about Markdown, but simply reading Wikipedia tells me 
> it can be used to produce HTML - indeed, that this is its primary 
> function. HTML can be opened by LibreOffice Writer and you can save as 
> .odt from there.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
>
>


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base not starting

2016-11-20 Thread Robert Großkopf
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Hi Dave,
> 
> It appears that Base was not installed as part of the upgrade -
> odd! So, my question is what components are needed?  They are: *
> Java runtime.  Should not need as I have the 1.8 JDK, but...

So it is installed. You could see this in LO > Tools > Options >
LibreOffice > Advanced.

> * report-builder

Only needed if you wish to create reports. I would install this.

> * others?

Nothing else but the Base-package.

Regards

Robert
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