[libreoffice-users] Verified fatal error

[John R. Sowden]

I have a 5 page spreadsheet, one page that gets used ofter, the others 
are not used much.  Page 2 is a chart of accounts that a column in page 
1 refers to often.  Page 1 is about 400 lines long, maybe 10 columns 
wide.  There is a date column, but I do not do date math, and no other 
cells refer to the date column.  That said, after December, through 
April (FY), entering data takes about 30 seconds per cell (a long time 
in computer years).  The solution I received from this list was to turn 
off all formatting (font, bold, not much more).  That was unacceptable, 
so recently I tried turning off auto-calc, requiring I use F9 to recalc 
the sheet after additions/changes.  It didn't help much.  And, in the 
process, I found the following.


On to the "verified fatal error":
   I have a group of about 10 lines that I want to delete.
   Lines above and below are referenced in page 3.
   I select and delete the lines and get the following fatal error:  
(three times (verified))

 Fatal Error (title in a window)
 multi_type_vector::position#1321:block position not found!
 (logical pos=4294967275, block size=9. logical size=1048575)

I had 5 sheets open, all 5 were damaged, and all 5 were recovered upon 
reentry.


Ubuntu 16.04 and LO version 5.1.4

What I have not tried is to F9 and/or save before the delete.

John


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[libreoffice-users] Verified fatal error

[John R. Sowden]

I have a 5 page spreadsheet, one page that gets used ofter, the others 
are not used much.  Page 2 is a chart of accounts that a column in page 
1 refers to often.  Page 1 is about 400 lines long, maybe 10 columns 
wide.  There is a date column, but I do not do date math, and no other 
cells refer to the date column.  That said, after December, through 
April (FY), entering data takes about 30 seconds per cell (a long time 
in computer years).  The solution I received from this list was to turn 
off all formatting (font, bold, not much more).  That was unacceptable, 
so recently I tried turning off auto-calc, requiring I use F9 to recalc 
the sheet after additions/changes.  It didn't help much.  And, in the 
process, I found the following.


On to the "verified fatal error":
   I have a group of about 10 lines that I want to delete.
   Lines above and below are referenced in page 3.
   I select and delete the lines and get the following fatal error:  
(three times (verified))

 Fatal Error (title in a window)
 multi_type_vector::position#1321:block position not found!
 (logical pos=4294967275, block size=9. logical size=1048575)

I had 5 sheets open, all 5 were damaged, and all 5 were recovered upon 
reentry.


Ubuntu 16.04 and LO version 5.1.4

What I have not tried is to F9 and/or save before the delete.

John


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Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...

[gordon cooper]

+1

Gordon.


On 03/02/17 13:12, Remy Gauthier wrote:

Euh, I think this thread should be cut and closed. It is becoming more
and more a senseless discussion on the good or not so good ways of
moderating a mailing list and as well, and this is what I find
particularly disturbing, an Anne-ology bashing session.

Thank you.

RG.

Le jeudi 02 février 2017 à 17:16 +, Peter Hillier-Brook a écrit :

Charles, one can only admire your patience, but isn't it time to put

a

stop to this nonsense with anne-ology (who I'm sure is not the
delightful Maureen, despite her use of the "-ology" suffix).


Who has the authority to remove her from the moderator role, for

which

she seems singularly un-qualified?

On 02/02/17 13:51, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Anne-ology,


You are right, that is the general meaning of moderation. However,

when

we talk about moderation here, we talk about mailing list

moderation.

When we talk about moderator, we refer to a mailing list moderator,

not

to concepts such as panel moderators. A mailing list moderator has

a

specific role, which somewhat relates to the one of a moderator but

is

much more strict: it has been described a bit earlier but let me

restate

it: A mailing list moderator is in charge of the management of the

mailing list. This role mostly includes moderating emails, which

means:

- finding legitimate emails of posters who are not subscribed to

the

mailing list and moderating them as in publishing them to the list

(NOT

REPLYING TO THEM FIRST)
- rejecting incoming illegitimate emails, such as spam.


Another role of the list moderator usually (but not always)

involves:

- adding or unsubscribing email addresses per request of their

owner

- helping mailing list subscribers with similar tasks or technical
issues directly related to their mailing list subscription
- reminding everyone to be courteous

- following the netiquette (http://www.netiquette.org) and

reminding

mailing list subscribers to comply with it.


Among all these points only the last two may relate somewhat more

the

broader meaning of "moderation".

In short your daily task is not one moderation but rather one of

technical management. It also implies that you know how to post

properly

and understand the concept of mailing list discussion threads. From

my

perspective it seems you are not familiar with the concept,or that

you

perhaps have no desire to become acquainted with these notions

which

would be problematic for a mailing list moderator. Hence, there is

no

need to "clean" any "cruft from an email. Signs, mentions of date,

time,

etc. in an email are part of its information and may form a part of

the

thread. We need that. I notice you have managed to start a new

thread

"Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ..." that is not integrated

with

the original thread. This is not correct and you seem to do this

for

each one of your reply.


Below is one page belonging to another community that may be

helpful to

you:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

Hope this helps,

Charles
(who, by top-posting, does not comply to the netiquette).



Le 02.02.2017 01:56, anne-ology a écrit :

Do you know what moderation means?



moderation := "the avoidance of excess or extremes,

especially in

one's behavior or political opinions"




From: toki 

Date: Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...
To:

Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 


On 01/31/2017 01:54 PM, Tom Davies wrote:


It is not always possible to "do the right thing" so it is good

that

The correct thing is to _approve_ the message, not _respond_

within the

message. As such, it is _always_ possible to do the right thing.

That is basic moderation 101

jonathon





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[libreoffice-users] Zoom control in the 5.3 status bar

[MR ZenWiz]

This seems to be missing, or maybe I clicke don something that made it
go away, but I can't find anything to help turn it back on.

Is this a new "feature?"  The help command does not seem to show it
being absent, but I don't see it any more.

Thanks.

MR

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[libreoffice-users] LO 5.3 glitches

[Dave Stevens]

Minor ones, the download and install were fine and that fixed my lack
of spell-checking that I was complaining of here a while back.

I'm using Linux Mint 18. The new icons for version 5.3 showed up in the
start menu and they work. My boot process ends at a desktop so I like
to have a LO Writer icon on the desktop so I can start there if I want.
I popped up the start menu, went into "office" then with the mouse
over the LO Writer icon, dragged it to the desktop, leaving me with a
desktop icon as launcher. Clicking on the desktop icon gives a dialog
box with a message, "untrusted application launcher" and "The
application launcher 'libre-office5-3writer.desktop' has not been marked
as trusted. If you do not know the source of this file, launching it
may be unsafe." Below are two buttons, "Launch anyway" and "Cancel" I
always launch and it works fine. Still it would be nice to make it
trusted. 

Also the icon has a little lock emblem in the top right corner.
Ordinarily I expect to see that when I'm running as a user and trying
to launch a program owned by root. And finally I'd like to be able to
change the icon image and label text but an attempt to rename through
the icon properties dialogue box leaves me with a message box telling me
the item could not be renamed and 'unable to rename desktop file.'

All small stuff the upgrade is still very worthwhile.
TIA

Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...

[Remy Gauthier]

Euh, I think this thread should be cut and closed. It is becoming more
and more a senseless discussion on the good or not so good ways of
moderating a mailing list and as well, and this is what I find
particularly disturbing, an Anne-ology bashing session. 

Thank you.

RG.

Le jeudi 02 février 2017 à 17:16 +, Peter Hillier-Brook a écrit :
> > Charles, one can only admire your patience, but isn't it time to put
a
> stop to this nonsense with anne-ology (who I'm sure is not the
> delightful Maureen, despite her use of the "-ology" suffix).
> 
> > Who has the authority to remove her from the moderator role, for
which
> she seems singularly un-qualified?
> 
> On 02/02/17 13:51, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > Anne-ology,
> > 
> > > > You are right, that is the general meaning of moderation. However,
when
> > > > we talk about moderation here, we talk about mailing list
moderation.
> > > > When we talk about moderator, we refer to a mailing list moderator,
not
> > > > to concepts such as panel moderators. A mailing list moderator has
a
> > > > specific role, which somewhat relates to the one of a moderator but
is
> > > > much more strict: it has been described a bit earlier but let me
restate
> > it: A mailing list moderator is in charge of the management of the
> > > > mailing list. This role mostly includes moderating emails, which
means:
> > > > - finding legitimate emails of posters who are not subscribed to
the
> > > > mailing list and moderating them as in publishing them to the list
(NOT
> > REPLYING TO THEM FIRST)
> > - rejecting incoming illegitimate emails, such as spam.
> > 
> > > > Another role of the list moderator usually (but not always)
involves:
> > > > - adding or unsubscribing email addresses per request of their
owner
> > - helping mailing list subscribers with similar tasks or technical
> > issues directly related to their mailing list subscription
> > - reminding everyone to be courteous
> > > > > > - following the netiquette (http://www.netiquette.org) and
reminding
> > mailing list subscribers to comply with it.
> > 
> > > > Among all these points only the last two may relate somewhat more
the
> > broader meaning of "moderation".
> > 
> > In short your daily task is not one moderation but rather one of
> > > > technical management. It also implies that you know how to post
properly
> > > > and understand the concept of mailing list discussion threads. From
my
> > > > perspective it seems you are not familiar with the concept,or that
you
> > > > perhaps have no desire to become acquainted with these notions
which
> > > > would be problematic for a mailing list moderator. Hence, there is
no
> > > > need to "clean" any "cruft from an email. Signs, mentions of date,
time,
> > > > etc. in an email are part of its information and may form a part of
the
> > > > thread. We need that. I notice you have managed to start a new
thread
> > > > "Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ..." that is not integrated
with
> > > > the original thread. This is not correct and you seem to do this
for
> > each one of your reply.
> > 
> > > > Below is one page belonging to another community that may be
helpful to
> > you:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> > 
> > Hope this helps,
> > 
> > Charles
> > (who, by top-posting, does not comply to the netiquette).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Le 02.02.2017 01:56, anne-ology a écrit :
> > > Do you know what moderation means?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > >    moderation := "the avoidance of excess or extremes,
especially in
> > > one's behavior or political opinions"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > > From: toki 
> > > Date: Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:40 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...
> > > To:
> > > > > > > > > Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 01/31/2017 01:54 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > > > > It is not always possible to "do the right thing" so it is good
that
> > > 
> > > > > > The correct thing is to _approve_ the message, not _respond_
within the
> > > message. As such, it is _always_ possible to do the right thing.
> > > 
> > > That is basic moderation 101
> > > 
> > > jonathon
> > 
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Trying to unsubscribe

[Dave Howorth]

On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 14:40:09 +
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Re: [libreoffice-users] about libreoffice online which is introduced in version 5.3

[Cley Faye]

2017-02-02 19:53 GMT+01:00 nasrin khaksar :

> i tried this link, but without any success.
> https://hub.docker.com/r/libreoffice/online
>

​I'm not sure about the rest of your post (restrictions etc.) but that link
is about the docker image directly. Docker is a tool made to deploy apps in
a specific ways. It might be possible to use LibreOffice online in other
ways, but there's no obvious ways to do it without docker.

You can (hopefully) find more info about using LibreOffice Online​ at
https://www.collaboraoffice.com/code/ . For starters, know that it's
completely separate from a regular LibreOffice installation. Work on
CODE/LibreOffice Online started a while ago, but it's probably not
useful/very useable with previous versions. And it also depends on some
other components to actually manage user files, but that's covered on the
link I gave you.

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[libreoffice-users] about libreoffice online which is introduced in version 5.3

[nasrin khaksar]

hello every one.
i have questions about libreoffice online.
how does it work?
does it need separate version of libreoffice to download rather than
normal version?
or does it some changes in settings to work?
i opened the given link, but i could not understand whats it, because
of the sanctions against iran unfortunately.
i realy wish to know about it and also is it possible to use it in
previous versions of libreoffice or it works only in 5.3?
i tried this link, but without any success.
https://hub.docker.com/r/libreoffice/online
also i realy love the previous ui version of libreoffice website.
it was previously more accessible and more simple to use.
i appreciate your help, pray for you and request divine mercy and
blessings for you.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

Charles, one can only admire your patience, but isn't it time to put a
stop to this nonsense with anne-ology (who I'm sure is not the
delightful Maureen, despite her use of the "-ology" suffix).

Who has the authority to remove her from the moderator role, for which
she seems singularly un-qualified?

On 02/02/17 13:51, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Anne-ology,
> 
> You are right, that is the general meaning of moderation. However, when
> we talk about moderation here, we talk about mailing list moderation.
> When we talk about moderator, we refer to a mailing list moderator, not
> to concepts such as panel moderators. A mailing list moderator has a
> specific role, which somewhat relates to the one of a moderator but is
> much more strict: it has been described a bit earlier but let me restate
> it: A mailing list moderator is in charge of the management of the
> mailing list. This role mostly includes moderating emails, which means:
> - finding legitimate emails of posters who are not subscribed to the
> mailing list and moderating them as in publishing them to the list (NOT
> REPLYING TO THEM FIRST)
> - rejecting incoming illegitimate emails, such as spam.
> 
> Another role of the list moderator usually (but not always) involves:
> - adding or unsubscribing email addresses per request of their owner
> - helping mailing list subscribers with similar tasks or technical
> issues directly related to their mailing list subscription
> - reminding everyone to be courteous
> - following the netiquette (http://www.netiquette.org) and reminding
> mailing list subscribers to comply with it.
> 
> Among all these points only the last two may relate somewhat more the
> broader meaning of "moderation".
> 
> In short your daily task is not one moderation but rather one of
> technical management. It also implies that you know how to post properly
> and understand the concept of mailing list discussion threads. From my
> perspective it seems you are not familiar with the concept,or that you
> perhaps have no desire to become acquainted with these notions which
> would be problematic for a mailing list moderator. Hence, there is no
> need to "clean" any "cruft from an email. Signs, mentions of date, time,
> etc. in an email are part of its information and may form a part of the
> thread. We need that. I notice you have managed to start a new thread
> "Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ..." that is not integrated with
> the original thread. This is not correct and you seem to do this for
> each one of your reply.
> 
> Below is one page belonging to another community that may be helpful to
> you:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Charles
> (who, by top-posting, does not comply to the netiquette).
> 
> 
> 
> Le 02.02.2017 01:56, anne-ology a écrit :
>> Do you know what moderation means?
>>
>>
>>moderation := "the avoidance of excess or extremes, especially in
>> one's behavior or political opinions"
>>
>>
>>
>> From: toki 
>> Date: Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...
>> To:
>> Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
>>
>>
>> On 01/31/2017 01:54 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>
>>> It is not always possible to "do the right thing" so it is good that
>>
>> The correct thing is to _approve_ the message, not _respond_ within the
>> message. As such, it is _always_ possible to do the right thing.
>>
>> That is basic moderation 101
>>
>> jonathon
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Anne-ology,

You are right, that is the general meaning of moderation. However, when 
we talk about moderation here, we talk about mailing list moderation. 
When we talk about moderator, we refer to a mailing list moderator, not 
to concepts such as panel moderators. A mailing list moderator has a 
specific role, which somewhat relates to the one of a moderator but is 
much more strict: it has been described a bit earlier but let me restate 
it: A mailing list moderator is in charge of the management of the 
mailing list. This role mostly includes moderating emails, which means:
- finding legitimate emails of posters who are not subscribed to the 
mailing list and moderating them as in publishing them to the list (NOT 
REPLYING TO THEM FIRST)

- rejecting incoming illegitimate emails, such as spam.

Another role of the list moderator usually (but not always) involves:
- adding or unsubscribing email addresses per request of their owner
- helping mailing list subscribers with similar tasks or technical 
issues directly related to their mailing list subscription

- reminding everyone to be courteous
- following the netiquette (http://www.netiquette.org) and reminding 
mailing list subscribers to comply with it.


Among all these points only the last two may relate somewhat more the 
broader meaning of "moderation".


In short your daily task is not one moderation but rather one of 
technical management. It also implies that you know how to post properly 
and understand the concept of mailing list discussion threads. From my 
perspective it seems you are not familiar with the concept,or that you 
perhaps have no desire to become acquainted with these notions which 
would be problematic for a mailing list moderator. Hence, there is no 
need to "clean" any "cruft from an email. Signs, mentions of date, time, 
etc. in an email are part of its information and may form a part of the 
thread. We need that. I notice you have managed to start a new thread 
"Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ..." that is not integrated with 
the original thread. This is not correct and you seem to do this for 
each one of your reply.


Below is one page belonging to another community that may be helpful to 
you:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

Hope this helps,

Charles
(who, by top-posting, does not comply to the netiquette).



Le 02.02.2017 01:56, anne-ology a écrit :

Do you know what moderation means?


   moderation := "the avoidance of excess or extremes, especially 
in

one's behavior or political opinions"



From: toki 
Date: Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] in response ...
To:
Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 


On 01/31/2017 01:54 PM, Tom Davies wrote:


It is not always possible to "do the right thing" so it is good that


The correct thing is to _approve_ the message, not _respond_ within the
message. As such, it is _always_ possible to do the right thing.

That is basic moderation 101

jonathon


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[libreoffice-users] about new feature in libreoffice 5.3 (libreoffice online)

[nasrin khaksar]

-- 
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


hello every one.
i have questions about libreoffice online.
how does it work?
does it need separate version of libreoffice to download rather than
normal version?
or does it some changes in settings to work?
i opened the given link, but i could not understand whats it, because
of the sanctions against iran unfortunately.
i realy wish to know about it and also is it possible to use it in
previous versions of libreoffice or it works only in 5.3?
i tried this link, but without any success.
https://hub.docker.com/r/libreoffice/online
also i realy love the previous ui version of libreoffice website.
it was previously more accessible and more simple to use.
i appreciate your help, pray for you and request divine mercy and
blessings for you.

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