Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer - Best Font Ever...Don't Lister to the Critics

2017-06-11 Thread toki 
On 06/10/2017 05:18 PM, charles meyer wrote:

> I'm looking for your experienced suggestions of which font(s) have you found 
> to be most clearly legible?

What language?
What writing system?
Used where?
For what type of content?

From my perspective, there is no such thing as a legible font for
writing Afrikaans, when using either the Arabic or the Latin writing system.

For everything other than Hebrew, Greek, and English, I use Google's (or
is it Alphabet's?) NoTo font family. Their primary, if not only virtue,
is that it is pan-Unicode.

jonathon

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Failure to Apply Text Color

2017-06-11 Thread leleu 
With Ubuntu 17.04 and LO 5.3.1.2 (the "standard" for 17.04) I don't see 
any problem.


Je la 11/06/2017 18:35, Tim-L--Elmira-NY skribis :


Hey Joe. . .

I just installed 5.3.3.2 on my Ubuntu 16.04 laptop.  I had 5.2.x 
installed but I realized that I had forgotten to install the newest 
version when I did on a different laptop [17 inch].  That different 
one had a fresh install of both Ubuntu 16.04 and Windows 10 Home.


Here is what I tried.
I pasted some text into Writer.  I selected a large block of text and 
then clicked on the font color [red was the last one used].  I had no 
problems with it changing the text to red.  I tried changing colors 
and no issues there.


Since I do not have 17.04 installed, I could not test it using that OS.

Just for reference - what version of LibreOffice was installed with 
Ubuntu 17.04?  I tend to installed the latest version of LO after I 
upgrade to a newer OS.  Of course, I tend to forget to upgrade LO 
after that.  3 strokes can do that.



On 06/09/2017 03:26 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 12:06 09/06/2017 -0700, Joe Conner wrote:
When I select and mark some test then click on the Writer Font Color 
icon to apply a color the text remains unchanged. Clicking on the 
Highlight Color icon will apply highlighting to the marked text. Has 
anyone else seen this? Am I doing something wrong or maybe have some 
setting is set wrong?


You probably have Tools | Options... | LibreOffice | Accessibility | 
Options for high contrast appearance | Use automatic font colour for 
screen display ticked. Remove the tick. (You may need to reload any 
document before its display will change.)


With this option ticked, the text is coloured in the document file 
and will print as coloured - but does not display as such. You can 
see the true text colour in Page Preview - unless you also have Tools 
| Options... | LibreOffice | Accessibility | Options for 
high-contrast appearance | Use system colours for page previews ticked.



Should I open a bug report?


Probably not.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Failure to Apply Text Color

2017-06-11 Thread Tim-L--Elmira-NY 


Hey Joe. . .

I just installed 5.3.3.2 on my Ubuntu 16.04 laptop.  I had 5.2.x 
installed but I realized that I had forgotten to install the newest 
version when I did on a different laptop [17 inch].  That different one 
had a fresh install of both Ubuntu 16.04 and Windows 10 Home.


Here is what I tried.
I pasted some text into Writer.  I selected a large block of text and 
then clicked on the font color [red was the last one used].  I had no 
problems with it changing the text to red.  I tried changing colors and 
no issues there.


Since I do not have 17.04 installed, I could not test it using that OS.

Just for reference - what version of LibreOffice was installed with 
Ubuntu 17.04?  I tend to installed the latest version of LO after I 
upgrade to a newer OS.  Of course, I tend to forget to upgrade LO after 
that.  3 strokes can do that.



On 06/09/2017 03:26 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 12:06 09/06/2017 -0700, Joe Conner wrote:
When I select and mark some test then click on the Writer Font Color 
icon to apply a color the text remains unchanged. Clicking on the 
Highlight Color icon will apply highlighting to the marked text. Has 
anyone else seen this? Am I doing something wrong or maybe have some 
setting is set wrong?


You probably have Tools | Options... | LibreOffice | Accessibility | 
Options for high contrast appearance | Use automatic font colour for 
screen display ticked. Remove the tick. (You may need to reload any 
document before its display will change.)


With this option ticked, the text is coloured in the document file and 
will print as coloured - but does not display as such. You can see the 
true text colour in Page Preview - unless you also have Tools | 
Options... | LibreOffice | Accessibility | Options for high-contrast 
appearance | Use system colours for page previews ticked.



Should I open a bug report?


Probably not.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer - Best Font Ever...Don't Lister to the Critics

2017-06-11 Thread Tim-L--Elmira-NY 


Everyone has access to different fonts, but here is the "best" one[s] I 
just tried.


I am writing this from a 15" laptop at 1360x768 resolution. I have the 
Writer document viewing size marked at 100%.


I tried a number of fonts using 8 point font size.

The best font I have installed on my system is the DejaVu Sans family.  
The smallest shown was the Condensed version.  7 point started to blur a 
little on my screen, and 6 point was no good at all.


That said, when I printed the sample text using 6 point DejaVu Sans 
Condensed on a 1200dpi, it was clearly readable from 18 inches away.


I know others may have a different font that works best for them, but 
this is the font that I have installed that reads best at 6-8 points of 
size.



On 06/11/2017 10:51 AM, Ricardo wrote:

El 2017-06-10 19:18, charles meyer escribió:

Ahoy my esteemed and steamy mates,

I'm looking for your experienced suggestions of which font(s) have you
found to be most clearly legible?


The "ideal typeface" is one of those arguments in which you'll find as 
many answers (if not more) as people answering ;)


Here it is a somewhat random and clearly incomplete list of awesome 
typefaces with a F(L)OSS licence:


I love EBGaramond, but be aware that it has no bold nor bold italic (yet)
http://www.georgduffner.at/ebgaramond/download.html

A really nice "old style" font full of OpenType magic is Cochineal
http://www.ctan.org/pkg/cochineal

In fact, I can say that any font from Michael Sharpe is a Good Font. 
As an example, if you want to be able to print at low resolution but 
with good results you may try his fork of Bitstream Charter, xcharter

http://www.ctan.org/pkg/xcharter

If you want a "Times better than Times" I highly recommend Libertinus, 
a fork of Linux Libertine/Biolinum

https://github.com/khaledhosny/libertinus

Another "times alike" font is Stix Two
http://stixfonts.org/

A great, original font full of OpenType specialities is Vollkorn
http://vollkorn-typeface.com/

and don't forget the TeX Gyre collection and the Latin Modern family, 
both from the GUST foundry

http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre
http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/latin-modern

Have fun!

Regards,
Ricardo





There are fonts you can see clearly even though they're in size 8 or
smaller or from a great distance.

I've noticed this as well on street signs. Some characters, even though
larger, are less legible because of style and not size than others.

I often use Bookman Old Style for that reason. I find Times New Roman
blends so it's less legible.

Anyone work ( or have a life partner, relative or fried) who works at 
an ad

agency?

Ad agencies go to great lengths in determining which font style and 
size to

use on consumer products as well as which colors are most alluring,
calming, friendly, inviting, etc.

Admittedly, there are personal preferences but there is also empirical
evidence gleaned from focus groups and studies re: which font 
styles/size

and colors affect people in what ways.

So, let's have our own focus group, shall we?!

What's your choice for most legible font style/size/color - and why?

Thank you - Merci- Gracias - Grazi - Domo!

Charles.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer - Best Font Ever...Don't Lister to the Critics

2017-06-11 Thread Ricardo 

El 2017-06-10 19:18, charles meyer escribió:

Ahoy my esteemed and steamy mates,

I'm looking for your experienced suggestions of which font(s) have you
found to be most clearly legible?


The "ideal typeface" is one of those arguments in which you'll find as 
many answers (if not more) as people answering ;)


Here it is a somewhat random and clearly incomplete list of awesome 
typefaces with a F(L)OSS licence:


I love EBGaramond, but be aware that it has no bold nor bold italic 
(yet)

http://www.georgduffner.at/ebgaramond/download.html

A really nice "old style" font full of OpenType magic is Cochineal
http://www.ctan.org/pkg/cochineal

In fact, I can say that any font from Michael Sharpe is a Good Font. As 
an example, if you want to be able to print at low resolution but with 
good results you may try his fork of Bitstream Charter, xcharter

http://www.ctan.org/pkg/xcharter

If you want a "Times better than Times" I highly recommend Libertinus, a 
fork of Linux Libertine/Biolinum

https://github.com/khaledhosny/libertinus

Another "times alike" font is Stix Two
http://stixfonts.org/

A great, original font full of OpenType specialities is Vollkorn
http://vollkorn-typeface.com/

and don't forget the TeX Gyre collection and the Latin Modern family, 
both from the GUST foundry

http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre
http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/latin-modern

Have fun!

Regards,
Ricardo





There are fonts you can see clearly even though they're in size 8 or
smaller or from a great distance.

I've noticed this as well on street signs. Some characters, even though
larger, are less legible because of style and not size than others.

I often use Bookman Old Style for that reason. I find Times New Roman
blends so it's less legible.

Anyone work ( or have a life partner, relative or fried) who works at 
an ad

agency?

Ad agencies go to great lengths in determining which font style and 
size to

use on consumer products as well as which colors are most alluring,
calming, friendly, inviting, etc.

Admittedly, there are personal preferences but there is also empirical
evidence gleaned from focus groups and studies re: which font 
styles/size

and colors affect people in what ways.

So, let's have our own focus group, shall we?!

What's your choice for most legible font style/size/color - and why?

Thank you - Merci- Gracias - Grazi - Domo!

Charles.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer - Best Font Ever...Don't Lister to the Critics

2017-06-11 Thread Virgil Arrington 
For print media, I like Bookman, Century Schoolbook, and Palatino for 
legibility.

I'm still wrestling with finding my favorites for onscreen work. I like OFL 
Sorts Mill Goudy, and Baskerville (which I find is too fragile for laser print 
work). I also like Verdana as a legible sans serif for onscreen work.

A good Times alternative is Linux Libertine, which has the same general letter 
shape as Times, but is not as condensed. I use it for my general business work.

Virgil



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 Original message 
From: charles meyer 
Date: 6/10/17 12:22 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Writer - Best Font Ever...Don't Lister to the 
Critics

Ahoy my esteemed and steamy mates,

I'm looking for your experienced suggestions of which font(s) have you
found to be most clearly legible?

There are fonts you can see clearly even though they're in size 8 or
smaller or from a great distance.

I've noticed this as well on street signs. Some characters, even though
larger, are less legible because of style and not size than others.

I often use Bookman Old Style for that reason. I find Times New Roman
blends so it's less legible.

Anyone work ( or have a life partner, relative or fried) who works at an ad
agency?

Ad agencies go to great lengths in determining which font style and size to
use on consumer products as well as which colors are most alluring,
calming, friendly, inviting, etc.

Admittedly, there are personal preferences but there is also empirical
evidence gleaned from focus groups and studies re: which font styles/size
and colors affect people in what ways.

So, let's have our own focus group, shall we?!

What's your choice for most legible font style/size/color - and why?

Thank you - Merci- Gracias - Grazi - Domo!

Charles.

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