Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem installing 5.4.2 on Win 10

[Steve Edmonds]

On 16/10/17 13:31, MR ZenWiz wrote:

I should know by now (and not forget) to google first.  I did not know
that Win Installer can only handle one at a time.  Didn't think of it,
really - Linux is the same in that respect.
Except that Linux allows for multiple package selection in one "install 
or update session"


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Re: [libreoffice-users] adding / using custom colours to LibreOffice

[Gary Dale]

On 14/10/17 07:37 PM, Toki wrote:

On 10/14/2017 04:29 PM, Gary Dale wrote:


With a GUI, you just need to know the colour codes and names.

Time yourself creating the Sherwin-Williams Paint Colour Palette.


Which do you think people are more likely to use?

An organisation will hire somebody to construct the colour palette.
An individual that needs new palettes on a regular basis, will learn the
appropriate XML.

jonathon

You're labouring under the delusion that organizations all have budgets 
to do such things. There are large numbers of organizations that only 
have a one or a small number of people working on documents. And they 
will not want to use the savings from not having to pay for LibreOffice 
to be exceeded by having to hire someone to create a palette.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem installing 5.4.2 on Win 10

[MR ZenWiz]

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:54 AM, M Henri Day  wrote:
>
> You may find the tips listed on this page
> (http://windowsreport.com/another-installation-already-progress-error-windows-10/)
> of help.
>
> Agree that problems of this type - and speaking more generally, others as
> well - are much less frequent on the Linux distro I use, viz, Linux Mint
> 18.2
>

That was it.

I should know by now (and not forget) to google first.  I did not know
that Win Installer can only handle one at a time.  Didn't think of it,
really - Linux is the same in that respect.

Many thanks!

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Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-users] adding / using custom colours to LibreOffice

[Tim-L]

On 10/14/2017 12:29 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 12/10/17 10:47 AM, Tim-L wrote:

On 10/11/2017 02:43 PM, Toki wrote:

On 10/11/2017 02:48 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

Either way, with that many palettes in play, there should be a way 
to manage them other than fiddling with XML files.

Palettes are function specific. As such, if made according to the user
specifications, there is no legitimate reason to change anything within
them.


I agree that there are some users do not want to create a color 
palette, but add just a few colors they need to use.  I remember 
doing that a few years ago, for a specific project, before I looked 
into creating my first color palette.  That seems to be the reason 
for the "custom" palette - which I currently have empty.



In terms of creating the palette, it is several orders of magnitude
easier to do so, using XML, than colour pickers. (Try creating the
Resena Paint colour palette using a GUI. Doable, but instead of taking
ten or so minutes, you'll spend hours, and need a second person to 
proof

read the resulting XML file.)


Yes creating the XML palette is easy to do.  All you need is to 
rename one of the small color palettes and then replacing the values 
of a line - like this one - with your colors.




All you need to do is copy/paste this type of line, then replace the 
"Tango: Aluminium 3" with a new name.  Then, change this HTML color 
value of "#babdb6" to the color you want to use.


I have a color palette with Resena colors - over 1370 of them.  I 
added LibreOffice Branded colors, as well of a few others, bringing 
the total to about 1400 of them.


Below is the color palette file and then the PDF file of 10 pages 
with the color names and HTML color codes.


http://libreoffice-na.us/colors_resene.soc

http://libreoffice-na.us/resene-a--Alphabetical-Color-Chart.pdf

I do have other PDF files for other color palette PDF files. Only 
some of them are listed on the "libreoffice-na.us" site. The Resene 
palette is not in the same order as the PDF file. I have 6 versions 
with it either unsorted or sorted by different methods. using these 
PDF files, I have searched for specific colors/hues, like wood-brown, 
gold-like, oranges, etc.. Then I created SOC files for these type of 
colors.


The PDF files for the large ones, can be found on a web site link on 
the top of each page of these PDF files.  They are a great way to see 
defined color names and their associated HTML color code.


Luck was with me when I was given the text list of colors for several 
large SOC files.


To be honest, if you use a color picker on these PDF color "boxes" 
you may find the visible color may not be the exactly same color code 
as listed in the page.  The problem might stem from the software that 
converted the image files to the PDF pages.  Also, for me, my printed 
pages are darker then what is shown on the display/monitor.  Syncing 
the printer to my laptops and desktops is not something most users 
can do for themselves.  Also only a few printers have drives with 
options to "tweak" the printed colors.

FYI: The palette list I see is:
standard
standard

What is the extension of those two files?

Regardless, no OS allows two files in the directory to have an 
identical

name. Some operating systems allow filenames to differ, only by case
that used for one or more glyphs.

jonathon

Yes, Color.soc and color.soc are different on Ubuntu Linux, but as 
one professor stated "think of the Windows file names as all 
uppercase or lower case names. . . ". I have run into this type of 
limitation with transferring files from my Ubuntu laptop to a NTFS or 
Fat32 USB flash drive and/or to a Windows format external drive.


Between the /opt/ root system folder[s] and the hidden .config "home" 
folder [Linux install], I have 11 installed palettes and a few in the 
works


While for someone literate in XML, creating a palette in XML is not a 
big deal, that's not your typical end user. At one point most people 
created formatted text files by embedding descriptions of the text 
formatting into the text file. Some still do, but doing it through a 
GUI like Writer or one of the LaTex front ends is the more usual route.


To create a palette using a text editor you have to research the 
format and find out where to store the file in addition to knowing the 
colour codes and names. With a GUI, you just need to know the colour 
codes and names. Which do you think people are more likely to use?


Well, for those who want to just to find a color's HTML code, there are 
many pre-made color charts charts on the web.  The color chart PDF files 
I have, on my LibreOffice-NA.US domain, have a link to their source 
location[s] as part of each page in the PDF file.  With these color 
charts, there are the color code and the color names for each color 
shown.  You can just find a color you want and then use the "custom 
color" option and insert the HTML Hex code there.


For those who just want to go through a 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem installing 5.4.2 on Win 10

[M Henri Day]

2017-10-15 18:36 GMT+02:00 MR ZenWiz :

> I have a new computer (for my church - I'm the tech guy), a Dell
> Inspiron runnign Win 10.
>
> I downloaded LO 5.4.2 and tried to install it, but every time I start
> the installation, it tells me there's an install already in progress
> and it refuses to run properly.
>
> LO is not installed.
>
> What do I need to remove to get this to function?  Is it a registry
> key or a file somewhere?
>
> (I never have this problem on Linux...)
>
> Thanks.
> MR


​You may find the tips listed on this page (
http://windowsreport.com/another-installation-already-progress-error-windows-10/)
of help.

Agree that problems of this type - and speaking more generally, others as
well - are much less frequent on the Linux distro I use, *viz*, Linux Mint
18.2

Henri

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[libreoffice-users] Problem installing 5.4.2 on Win 10

[MR ZenWiz]

I have a new computer (for my church - I'm the tech guy), a Dell
Inspiron runnign Win 10.

I downloaded LO 5.4.2 and tried to install it, but every time I start
the installation, it tells me there's an install already in progress
and it refuses to run properly.

LO is not installed.

What do I need to remove to get this to function?  Is it a registry
key or a file somewhere?

(I never have this problem on Linux...)

Thanks.
MR

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which was the last version of LO able to run on Win XP?

[Tim-L]

On 10/13/2017 11:38 PM, zahra a wrote:

hi.
i use windows xp and love my windows version.
from the plan of libreoffice developers i realized that libreoffice
6.0.0 and later does not support xp or vista.
i use version 5.3.4.1 forever and love it very much.
hope that help, God bless you!


I loved XP as well.  That was one reason that I found Ubuntu 9.x/10.x 
had a similar look/feel with the GNOME desktop environment back in late 
2009 and early 2010, when I bought my first "default desktop that did 
not have any OS installed when I bought it new. When Ubuntu went to 
Unity, I looked into the MATE desktop. That is what I use with a Ubuntu 
14.04 -  crashes when I try to install 16.04 - and 16.04 for most of the 
other systems.


For Windows, I also wanted to keep XP for as long as possible.  I even 
have a XP SP3 DVD with many licenses from computers that I have scrapped 
over the year.  My old HP laptop was XP.  My next one had VISTA - yuck.  
I upgraded it to Win7.  The next laptop has Win7 installed.  Those 
laptops then went to Win10 on the Windows partition and Ubuntu 16.04 on 
their Linux partitions.  My newest laptop [ASUS 17"] has only Ubuntu, 
since Windows 10 [came with] would over heat playing videos - streaming 
or local.  Ubuntu sometimes gets a little hot, but not to 180° F, or 
even hotter, like Win10 does all the time and then freezes due by being 
too hot.


The last MS Office I uses was version 2003.  Then I switched to 
OpenOffice.org as my default office "system".  When LibreOffice had its 
first release version to the general public.  I have never looked back.  
Currently, I do not install the first version[s] of LO's lines [5.0.0, 
5.2.0, 5.3.0, etc.] anymore, but I keep installing later versions.







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which was the last version of LO able to run on Win XP?

[DaveB]

On 13.10.2017 16:03, Cley Faye wrote:
> 2017-10-13 14:41 GMT+02:00 DaveB :
>
>> Please let's not have discussions about MS having ended support for XP.
>> There are still an enormous number of machines out there running XP SP3
>> POS Ready 2009, which MS are still actively supporting. MS most recent
>> XP update (October 2017) added support for TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2 to XP POS
>> Ready 2009, See Microsoft Secure Blog: http://bit.ly/2ylRGDo
>>
>> I have successfully screwed up LO on a client's XP POS Ready machine (my
>> fault for not testing on a VM first), by installing LO 5.4.2 over the
>> previous 4.4.7.2 install. The 5.4 installer completes without any
>> complaint, gleefully removing the old version, but on start up the
>> splash screen flashes and soffice dies without a murmur. Would have been
>> nice if the devs had added the very simple system check call to
>> installer and blocked the install. Yes, the information is there for
>> anyone who wants to dig down into the release notes:
>> http://bit.ly/2yjj2Ir But how many users read software release notes or
>> EULAs? It's also about time we updated the misleading "/System
>> Requirements/" page http://bit.ly/2yh0SHo which still reads
>> "/LibreOffice on a Windows system are as follows: Microsoft _*Windows
>> XP*__*SP3*_, Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows
>> Server 2012, or Windows 10/".
>>
>> Two questions:
>>
>>  1. Which was the last version able to run on Win XP?
>>  2. Are there any known security issues with that version?
>>
> ​After a quick test, I found that the 5.3.7.1 version works fine in XP​.
> The latest 5.4 doesn't, but I'm not sure exactly which subversion started
> to fail. I can confirm however that it doesn't output any error message,
> neither on the GUI or on the command line. The splash screen just flash. No
> error or warning in system logs either.
>
> The website should probably be updated (or, if possible, the issue causing
> a crash fixed instead). I'm tempted to say that losing XP compatibility
> wasn't done on purpose.
>
> I can't provide an answer for known security issues, although common sense
> says that it's more likely to have some (there's always security issues)
> and that they might be fixed in more recent versions. However, not talking
> too much about the end of support of XP, it is itself a large attack vector
> at this point, so I'm not sure that obscure security issues with
> libreoffice would be relevant. Beyond the usual "disable script by default"
> advice, it's most likely safe enough to use in such conditions.
>
After some considerable testing, I came to much the same conclusion and
installed 5.3.7.1 on the client's machine. Surprising how fast and
smooth it runs under XP on a ratty old single core Pentium.

IIRC there was agreement at a fairly recent ESC meeting that XP support
would be dropped, but I wasn't able to track down the minutes of that
meeting to know which was the first version it applied to.

Yes unpatched XP machines are a large attack vector, but when you see
the number of security updates MS rolls out for the XP POS edition each
month it's obvious that MS are really knocking themselves out to keep
that edition patched. There must be a fair number of heavyweight
corporate/government customers MS wants to keep on-side. Let's all hope
that MS are working even harder to keep the UK's "/Windows XP for
Warships/" fully patched http://bit.ly/2ynpmys Could get a bit exciting
to have hacked nuclear submarines popping off Trident missiles.

I've checked LO security advisories http://bit.ly/2ykHcCn and there
doesn't appear to be anything in 5.3.7.1 that might case my client any
major headaches. He has a regularly updated copy of MS Security
Essentials installed, plus a fairly solid firewall and intrusion
monitoring setup.

Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Is there any way to turn off that splash screen?

[leleu]

Under Ubuntu 17.04, I just added "--nologo " to the command line in the 
menu, te get

libreoffice --nologo %U
and similar for calc and so on

Je la 14/10/2017 23:04, Remy Gauthier skribis :

Hi,
If you have root access on Linux, you can always edit the file
sofficerc located in the same folder as soffice.bin. Setting the Logo
keyword to zero seems to do the trick for me. I have not found a way to
carry this setting to my local environment (copying the file to
$HOME/sofficerc or $HOME/.sofficerc does not seem to work). Perhaps
someone would know how to do that?
I hope this helps.
Rémy Gauthier.Le samedi 14 octobre 2017 à 20:13 +0200, Philip Jackson a
écrit :

On 14/10/17 00:48, MR ZenWiz wrote:

I don't use Windows if I can avoid it, but this may come in handy,
too.

If you're using linux, you can get LO to start on a different
desktop. I
habitually use 7 desktops with email, browser, etc assigned to
specific
desktops by using gDevilspie.

You can assign a keyboard shortcut to pass rapidly from desktop to
desktop - like for example Ctrl+Alt+left/right arrow keys.

Just an idea but it works for me.

Philip



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