Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - patches

[Tim-L]

On 03/26/2018 03:56 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:

On Fri Mar 23 2018 04:23:59 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Tom Davies
 wrote:

Hi :)
I'm pretty sure "mainstream support" ended a few years ago.  Quite what
that means seems very unclear.

It isn't that hard.

Full support means you can actually open support cases with MS and get
features and other regular issues fixed.

I challenge anyone to provide proof that they have ever been able to get
ANYTHING meaningful from this kind of support, MAYBE unless they are a
large multinational corporation or government customer.

Long term support means just critical/security updates.

I really hate software packages that uses their own file format, change 
to a different format and not support the earlier one. I have had people 
ask me to open a document in that old format and find it is no longer 
supported.


I have many old files that are in old and unsupported formats. If just 
forgot I had them stored and never "converted" them to the newer format[s].


I wonder when MS will stop supporting .doc files? I prefer to get these 
from MS Office users, when I need to do some editing on it. I have not 
owned a version of MS Office beyond 2003. I do not have it installed on 
ANY of my Windows systems. I use LibreOffice now for my office needs - 
not MS.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - patches

[toki]

On 03/26/2018 07:56 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:

>>  I'm pretty sure "mainstream support" ended a few years ago.  Quite
what that means seems very unclear.

> It isn't that hard.

If what I was told was true, in 2010, Microsoft was still providing Tier
3 support to a customer that used MS Dos 5.0, and a different customer
that used Win95. (I suspect that in both cases, the support was a
license fee for source code, and the paying customer did the bug fixes,
etc. themselves.)

As such, the precise meaning can change, depending upon circumstances.

>MAYBE unless they are a large multinational corporation or government
customer.

a) If you hadn't put the qualifier "government" in, I could have pointed
you at one organization that has that. However, I suspect that Microsoft
provides that support, more because to not do so will result in an
unwinnable lawsuit, than because they want to.

b) Microsoft has several tiers of support. In theory, individuals,
SOHOs, and SMBs can purchase support for any tier. However, simple
economics restricts Tier 3 to big governments and bigger corporations.
This is the level at which bug fixes, etc. are dealt with ASAP.

> Long term support means just critical/security updates.

The big issue with "long term support", is how "long term" is defined.
Personally, I wouldn't call 18 months "long term", but marketing people
apparently think so.

jonathon



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about document/template interaction

[Brian Barker]

At 19:09 26/03/2018 +0200, John Herron wrote:
I wrote a document based on a specific template. As I did so, I 
added four new styles to the document. Is there a way to 
automagically incorporate these new styles into the specific 
template, such that when I create a new document based on it, the 
new styles will be included in it?


o Open the document.
o Delete all its text (or as much of it as appropriate).
o Save the denuded document (but still containing its styles) as a 
template - presumably over the existing one.


Alternatively, you can import styles from one document to another - 
in this case from your existing document to a new document intended 
to become your template - using the Load Styles facility, accessible 
from the drop-down menu from the New Style from Selection button in 
the Styles and Formatting window.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - patches

[Tanstaafl]

On Fri Mar 23 2018 04:23:59 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Tom Davies
 wrote:
> Hi :) 
> I'm pretty sure "mainstream support" ended a few years ago.  Quite what
> that means seems very unclear.  

It isn't that hard.

Full support means you can actually open support cases with MS and get
features and other regular issues fixed.

I challenge anyone to provide proof that they have ever been able to get
ANYTHING meaningful from this kind of support, MAYBE unless they are a
large multinational corporation or government customer.

Long term support means just critical/security updates.

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[libreoffice-users] Question about document/template interaction

[John Herron]

LibreOffice 5.1.6.2 / 5.3.5.2 on Linux Lite.

I wrote a document based on a specific template.
As I did so, I added four new styles to the document.

Is there a way to automagically incorporate these new styles into the specific 
template,
such that when I create a new document based on it, the new styles will be 
included in it?

Thanks for helping.

John Herron


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