Re: [libreoffice-users] How many of you deal with the Linux Users Group [Facebook]?
On 04/29/2018 01:17 PM, Luuk wrote: On 29-4-2018 17:23, James Knott wrote: On 04/29/2018 10:23 AM, Tim-L wrote: There was a question in it about wondering how to get the users of Linux to save LibreOffice files to Microsoft Word formats. Why would we want to, unless we had to? The whole point of the Open Document formats was to be a non proprietary method that anyone can use. Unlike MS formats, ODF is fully open. Perhaps you should go to a site called Groklaw and read about all the nonsense with MS forcing their new spec through ISO, to make it a standard, when even their own implementation didn't comply with it. I use ODF formats unless I have a need to use MS, such as uploading documents to a web site that does not accept ODF. You did forget to ask Tim-L what Facebook has to do with this problem ... ;) I read a "question" about LibreOffice and then answered it. From that last statement, it could seem to be a negative response of unfriendly people. I hope that is was meant as a joke. Who can afford to buy MS Office these days. So, if your kids need to write papers that require MS Office formats, then Open Document Formats will not do. I know that over half of our local schools still have a MSO that did not even think about supporting a .odt document. So you either need to save it as DOC or DOCX to work with those computers. Why Facebook? Well I was talking about using Linux for its security option of needing a Root Password to install packages. Just give the users Firefox, Skype, and LibreOffice. Thats it. Then there was the comment about not remembering how to make sure the users defaulted to MSO formats, instead of trying to remember to save it to DOC/DOCX instead of ODT. You would not believe that info, and questions, that get on a Facebook Linux support group. One thread I am keep monitoring is what is the best distro of Linux and why. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How many of you deal with the Linux Users Group [Facebook]?
On 04/29/2018 01:17 PM, Luuk wrote: > You did forget to ask Tim-L what Facebook has to do with this problem ... I suspect anyone using Facebook already has enough problems. ;-) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How many of you deal with the Linux Users Group [Facebook]?
At 10:20 29/04/2018 -0700, Tom Williams wrote: I don't help many LibreOffice on Linux users but I do help a number of LibreOffice on Windows users and I usually configure LibreOffice to save in Microsoft formats, by default. Please don't. Most of these people don't understand different file formats and want to be able to "just send" files to friends, family, or other members of a group or something. Being a Linux user, myself, I save files in Microsoft format only when I *know* I need to send a Word or Excel file to someone else. Otherwise, any files I need to send to people are saved as PDF. I don't see the relevance of your reference to being a Linux user: there is none. Surely this is the way to work independently of the operating system being used? (Or colour of computer? Or day of the week?) Since you are capable enough to know exactly how best to act in this matter, surely you are a good enough teacher to bring your pupils up to your standard of use? You do them a disservice by allowing them only a poorer technique than your own. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How many of you deal with the Linux Users Group [Facebook]?
At 10:23 29/04/2018 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote: Last night, I was in the middle of a thread on the Linux Users Group on Facebook. There was a question in it about wondering how to get the users of Linux to save LibreOffice files to Microsoft Word formats. ... I double checked and gave him the answer. I trust the answer was "Don't" - or at least "Do so only when essential, and never by default"! Apart from the recommendations of a previous suggestion, note that some facilities of LibreOffice cannot be saved in Microsoft's proprietary formats and that converting to and fro into and out of formats foreign to LibreOffice - as is the case if you save in Microsoft's formats - is a recipe for document instability. What you see when you reopen a document may not be what you saw before you saved it. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How many of you deal with the Linux Users Group [Facebook]?
On 04/29/2018 08:23 AM, James Knott wrote: > On 04/29/2018 10:23 AM, Tim-L wrote: >> There was a question in it about wondering how to get the users of >> Linux to save LibreOffice files to Microsoft Word formats. > Why would we want to, unless we had to? > To make it easier to more readily exchange documents with others. I don't help many LibreOffice on Linux users but I do help a number of LibreOffice on Windows users and I usually configure LibreOffice to save in Microsoft formats, by default. Most of these people don't understand different file formats and want to be able to "just send" files to friends, family, or other members of a group or something. Being a Linux user, myself, I save files in Microsoft format only when I *know* I need to send a Word or Excel file to someone else. Otherwise, any files I need to send to people are saved as PDF. I've never heard of the Linux Users Facebook Group until today. :) Peace... "The Other" Tom -- /When I leave, I don't know what I'm hoping to find, And when I leave, I don't know what I'm leaving behind.../ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How many of you deal with the Linux Users Group [Facebook]?
On 29-4-2018 17:23, James Knott wrote: > On 04/29/2018 10:23 AM, Tim-L wrote: >> There was a question in it about wondering how to get the users of >> Linux to save LibreOffice files to Microsoft Word formats. > Why would we want to, unless we had to? The whole point of the Open > Document formats was to be a non proprietary method that anyone can > use. Unlike MS formats, ODF is fully open. Perhaps you should go to a > site called Groklaw and read about all the nonsense with MS forcing > their new spec through ISO, to make it a standard, when even their own > implementation didn't comply with it. > > > I use ODF formats unless I have a need to use MS, such as uploading > documents to a web site that does not accept ODF. > > You did forget to ask Tim-L what Facebook has to do with this problem ... ;) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How many of you deal with the Linux Users Group [Facebook]?
On 04/29/2018 10:23 AM, Tim-L wrote: > There was a question in it about wondering how to get the users of > Linux to save LibreOffice files to Microsoft Word formats. Why would we want to, unless we had to? The whole point of the Open Document formats was to be a non proprietary method that anyone can use. Unlike MS formats, ODF is fully open. Perhaps you should go to a site called Groklaw and read about all the nonsense with MS forcing their new spec through ISO, to make it a standard, when even their own implementation didn't comply with it. I use ODF formats unless I have a need to use MS, such as uploading documents to a web site that does not accept ODF. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] How many of you deal with the Linux Users Group [Facebook]?
Last night, I was in the middle of a thread on the Linux Users Group on Facebook. There was a question in it about wondering how to get the users of Linux to save LibreOffice files to Microsoft Word formats. To me, it came up when I described a wish to use Linux for a secure computer center/lab. I double checked and gave him the answer. I have not thought about how to do that for years. So, although the Facebook user group is not a LibreOffice group, there still is a need to answer LibreOffice questions once in a while. I am part of it, because of what it is useful for. Maybe I will look into the LibreOffice Facebook page. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
