[libreoffice-users] Re: Combining vertical text direction of page with ‘right-to-left’ text direction of a table

2023-04-10 Thread Battsengel Ichinnorov (Bachka)

Dear Regina,

thank you very much that you still remembering our talk at German 
Community Meeting.


- Yes, we need it in Mongolian old script. These information was for me 
very useful for Mongolian old script, which uses top-to-down with 
left-to-right.


I mean like in your example document "Page mongolianVert Table RTL.odt". 
I will test it later the full functionality of this settings and respond 
you back.


- Yes, for the second question too. Because our Cyrillic script uses 
normal left-to-right with top-to-down. I think both scripts in one 
document combined are at the moment usual usage.


- For other questions i need more tests to answer those.

Best regards

Bachka

PS: I have at moment less time for testing (Mother in my House from 
Mongolia for 2 months, :D), sorry. but it has piqued my interest and 
motivates me to do more, ;). Thank you for your effort!


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On 10.04.23 18:38, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi all,

I’m on working to specify the property “style:writing-mode” for ODF. 
That property is called “text direction” in the UI of LibreOffice.


A page in a text document has the setting “Text direction” in section 
“Paper Format” on tab “Page” of the “Page Style” dialog. Possible 
values are

Left-to-right (horizontal)
Right-to-left (horizontal)
Right-to-left (vertical)
Left-to-right (vertical)

A table has the setting “Text direction” in section “Properties” on 
tab “Table” in “Table Properties” dialog. Possible values are

Left-to-right (LTR)
Right-to-left (RTL)
Use superordinate object settings

LibreOffice can combine a vertical text direction at the page with RTL 
text direction of the table.


Are such combinations actually used in documents?
Does LibreOffice render the texts in the way users need it?
What is the intended behavior of such combinations?

Kind regards,
Regina


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Combining vertical text direction of page with ‘right-to-left’ text direction of a table

2023-04-10 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Dave,

Dave Howorth schrieb am 10.04.2023 um 21:46:

On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:38:18 +0200
Regina Henschel  wrote:


Hi all,

I’m on working to specify the property “style:writing-mode” for ODF.
That property is called “text direction” in the UI of LibreOffice.

A page in a text document has the setting “Text direction” in section
“Paper Format” on tab “Page” of the “Page Style” dialog. Possible
values are Left-to-right (horizontal)
Right-to-left (horizontal)
Right-to-left (vertical)
Left-to-right (vertical)


That doesn't sound very sensible. What if I'm writing a document that
includes text in an L-R language as well as text in an R-L language?
(both horizontal). Maybe one included as a quote in the other?



Mixing the horizontal LTR and RTL directions is no problem. There exists 
the bidi-algorithm of UNICODE, which specifies how to do that inside a 
paragraph and the writing-mode attribute of the paragraph to mix LTR and 
RTL paragraphs. LibreOffice follows the bidi-algorithm and has means to 
change direction of paragraphs. You might not have seen the options, 
because you need to enable "Complex text layout" in the language 
settings in the options.


The problem for specification is, when the page text direction and the 
table direction are orthogonal to each other.


Kind regards,
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Combining vertical text direction of page with ‘right-to-left’ text direction of a table

2023-04-10 Thread Dave Howorth
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:38:18 +0200
Regina Henschel  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I’m on working to specify the property “style:writing-mode” for ODF. 
> That property is called “text direction” in the UI of LibreOffice.
> 
> A page in a text document has the setting “Text direction” in section 
> “Paper Format” on tab “Page” of the “Page Style” dialog. Possible
> values are Left-to-right (horizontal)
> Right-to-left (horizontal)
> Right-to-left (vertical)
> Left-to-right (vertical)

That doesn't sound very sensible. What if I'm writing a document that
includes text in an L-R language as well as text in an R-L language?
(both horizontal). Maybe one included as a quote in the other?

> A table has the setting “Text direction” in section “Properties” on
> tab “Table” in “Table Properties” dialog. Possible values are
> Left-to-right (LTR)
> Right-to-left (RTL)
> Use superordinate object settings
> 
> LibreOffice can combine a vertical text direction at the page with
> RTL text direction of the table.
> 
> Are such combinations actually used in documents?
> Does LibreOffice render the texts in the way users need it?
> What is the intended behavior of such combinations?
> 
> Kind regards,
> Regina
> 


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[libreoffice-users] Combining vertical text direction of page with ‘right-to-left’ text direction of a table

2023-04-10 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi all,

I’m on working to specify the property “style:writing-mode” for ODF. 
That property is called “text direction” in the UI of LibreOffice.


A page in a text document has the setting “Text direction” in section 
“Paper Format” on tab “Page” of the “Page Style” dialog. Possible values are

Left-to-right (horizontal)
Right-to-left (horizontal)
Right-to-left (vertical)
Left-to-right (vertical)

A table has the setting “Text direction” in section “Properties” on tab 
“Table” in “Table Properties” dialog. Possible values are

Left-to-right (LTR)
Right-to-left (RTL)
Use superordinate object settings

LibreOffice can combine a vertical text direction at the page with RTL 
text direction of the table.


Are such combinations actually used in documents?
Does LibreOffice render the texts in the way users need it?
What is the intended behavior of such combinations?

Kind regards,
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Actual bug report.

2023-04-10 Thread Robert Großkopf

Hi Michael,


I have ~104 "Fields" from a long google form. They look like this:



Principle Investigator #1 Name: (Last, First)
Principle Investigator #1 Title:
Principle Investigator #1 Phone:
Principle Investigator #1 Email:
Mailing list membership for PI#1 [xxx Announce]
Mailing list membership for PI#1 [xxx Alarm]
Add another?
Principle Investigator #2: Name: (Last, First)
Principle Investigator #2: Title:


You have imported tis fields to Base? HSQLDB will run, but field names 
in internal Firebird will end by 31 characters.




https://www.dropbox.com/s/bi3ec5snrf2shht/MCT_Screenshot_20230410_084805_P2.png?dl=0

On this screen, I tried to resize the "Query Wizard" screen to be wider 
so that I can read the field names and I can't.


So use the scrollbar at the bottom. It's shown in your screenshot.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Actual bug report.

2023-04-10 Thread Dave Howorth
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:47:56 -0400
Michael Tiernan  wrote:

> When attempting to muddle about with some data from a google form.
> 
> First, the version info is:
> 
> Version: 7.5.2.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 
> 53bb9681a964705cf672590721dbc85eb4d0c3a2 CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X 
> 13.3; UI render: default; VCL: osx Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI: 
> en-US Calc: threaded
> 
> I have ~104 "Fields" from a long google form. They look like this:
> 
> Timestamp
> Email Address
> Respondent's Name: (Last, First)
> Respondent's preferred pronoun:
> Respondent's Title:
> Respondent's Email:
> Respondent's Phone Number:
> Full/Proper name for your group:
> What do you use for an abbreviation for your group?
> Choose Section Please:
> Choose Principle Investigator to edit
> Principle Investigator #1 Name: (Last, First)
> Principle Investigator #1 Title:
> Principle Investigator #1 Phone:
> Principle Investigator #1 Email:
> Mailing list membership for PI#1 [xxx Announce]
> Mailing list membership for PI#1 [xxx Alarm]
> Add another?
> Principle Investigator #2: Name: (Last, First)
> Principle Investigator #2: Title:
> ...
> 
> (I get what I was handed.)
> 
> So, now, I try to create a DB with it.
> 
> I open the "Create DB" dialog and begin to work my way through it.
> 
> I get this screen: (As expected.)
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/g913wtewb7gandc/MCT_Screenshot_20230410_084718-P1.png?dl=0

For some reason that comes up completely blank when I try to display it.

> So, trying to use almost all the fields execept for a couple. So, I
> do the ">>" thing to move them all over so I can go delete the ones I
> don't want. That gives us this screen:
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bi3ec5snrf2shht/MCT_Screenshot_20230410_084805_P2.png?dl=0
> 
> On this screen, I tried to resize the "Query Wizard" screen to be
> wider so that I can read the field names and I can't.

Use the scroll bar to slide them over to display a more useful portion
of the name?

> That's the bug.
 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Actual bug report.

2023-04-10 Thread LO User
For bug reports go to: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/

On 10/04/2023 15:47, Michael Tiernan wrote:
> When attempting to muddle about with some data from a google form.
> 
> First, the version info is:
> 
> Version: 7.5.2.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID:
> 53bb9681a964705cf672590721dbc85eb4d0c3a2 CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X
> 13.3; UI render: default; VCL: osx Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI:
> en-US Calc: threaded
> 
> I have ~104 "Fields" from a long google form. They look like this:
> 
> Timestamp
> Email Address
> Respondent's Name: (Last, First)
> Respondent's preferred pronoun:
> Respondent's Title:
> Respondent's Email:
> Respondent's Phone Number:
> Full/Proper name for your group:
> What do you use for an abbreviation for your group?
> Choose Section Please:
> Choose Principle Investigator to edit
> Principle Investigator #1 Name: (Last, First)
> Principle Investigator #1 Title:
> Principle Investigator #1 Phone:
> Principle Investigator #1 Email:
> Mailing list membership for PI#1 [xxx Announce]
> Mailing list membership for PI#1 [xxx Alarm]
> Add another?
> Principle Investigator #2: Name: (Last, First)
> Principle Investigator #2: Title:
> ...
> 
> (I get what I was handed.)
> 
> So, now, I try to create a DB with it.
> 
> I open the "Create DB" dialog and begin to work my way through it.
> 
> I get this screen: (As expected.)
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/g913wtewb7gandc/MCT_Screenshot_20230410_084718-P1.png?dl=0
> 
> 
> So, trying to use almost all the fields execept for a couple. So, I do
> the ">>" thing to move them all over so I can go delete the ones I don't
> want. That gives us this screen:
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bi3ec5snrf2shht/MCT_Screenshot_20230410_084805_P2.png?dl=0
> 
> 
> On this screen, I tried to resize the "Query Wizard" screen to be wider
> so that I can read the field names and I can't.
> 
> That's the bug.
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] texmaths extension failure

2023-04-10 Thread LO User
These kinds of extensions are contributed and maintained by community
members, not by the LO developers.
Please contact the extension contributor:
http://roland65.free.fr/texmaths/

On 10/04/2023 15:43, citc wrote:
> Readers,
> 
> Have observered the following errors to attempt use of this extension.
> 
> After mouse 'click' to activate the texmaths icons in the toolbar for
> 'texmaths editor', error dialogue windows:
> 
> "
> BASIC runtime error.
> An exception occurred
> Type: com.sun.star.lang.WrappedTargetRuntimeException
> Message: ./scripting/source/dlgprov/dlgprov.cxx:628.
> "
> Line of macro:
> 
> "
> oChildDialog = oDP.createContainerWindow(sURL, "", oParent, nothing)
> "
> 
> "
> BASIC runtime error.
> An exception occurred
> Type: com.sun.star.container.NoSuchElementException
> Message: ./basic/source/uno/namecont.cxx:117.
> "
> 
> Line of macro:
> 
> "
> DialogLibraries.LoadLibrary( "TexMaths" )
> "
> 
> The libreoffice dialogue for 'macros' opens. Copy to text editor:
> 
> "
> 
> For GNU/Linux there is assumption of installation directory for latex.
> Tried to change to the 'tinytex' installation directory, save the macro,
> but the error continues.
> 
> Any advice to change the macro, for successful use?
> 

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[libreoffice-users] Actual bug report.

2023-04-10 Thread Michael Tiernan

When attempting to muddle about with some data from a google form.

First, the version info is:

Version: 7.5.2.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 
53bb9681a964705cf672590721dbc85eb4d0c3a2 CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X 
13.3; UI render: default; VCL: osx Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI: 
en-US Calc: threaded


I have ~104 "Fields" from a long google form. They look like this:

Timestamp
Email Address
Respondent's Name: (Last, First)
Respondent's preferred pronoun:
Respondent's Title:
Respondent's Email:
Respondent's Phone Number:
Full/Proper name for your group:
What do you use for an abbreviation for your group?
Choose Section Please:
Choose Principle Investigator to edit
Principle Investigator #1 Name: (Last, First)
Principle Investigator #1 Title:
Principle Investigator #1 Phone:
Principle Investigator #1 Email:
Mailing list membership for PI#1 [xxx Announce]
Mailing list membership for PI#1 [xxx Alarm]
Add another?
Principle Investigator #2: Name: (Last, First)
Principle Investigator #2: Title:
...

(I get what I was handed.)

So, now, I try to create a DB with it.

I open the "Create DB" dialog and begin to work my way through it.

I get this screen: (As expected.)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g913wtewb7gandc/MCT_Screenshot_20230410_084718-P1.png?dl=0

So, trying to use almost all the fields execept for a couple. So, I do 
the ">>" thing to move them all over so I can go delete the ones I don't 
want. That gives us this screen:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/bi3ec5snrf2shht/MCT_Screenshot_20230410_084805_P2.png?dl=0

On this screen, I tried to resize the "Query Wizard" screen to be wider 
so that I can read the field names and I can't.


That's the bug.


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[libreoffice-users] texmaths extension failure

2023-04-10 Thread citc

Readers,

Have observered the following errors to attempt use of this extension.

After mouse 'click' to activate the texmaths icons in the toolbar for 
'texmaths editor', error dialogue windows:


"
BASIC runtime error.
An exception occurred
Type: com.sun.star.lang.WrappedTargetRuntimeException
Message: ./scripting/source/dlgprov/dlgprov.cxx:628.
"
Line of macro:

"
oChildDialog = oDP.createContainerWindow(sURL, "", oParent, nothing)
"

"
BASIC runtime error.
An exception occurred
Type: com.sun.star.container.NoSuchElementException
Message: ./basic/source/uno/namecont.cxx:117.
"

Line of macro:

"
DialogLibraries.LoadLibrary( "TexMaths" )
"

The libreoffice dialogue for 'macros' opens. Copy to text editor:

"

For GNU/Linux there is assumption of installation directory for latex. 
Tried to change to the 'tinytex' installation directory, save the macro, 
but the error continues.


Any advice to change the macro, for successful use?

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[libreoffice-users] Quirky behavior report....

2023-04-10 Thread Michael Tiernan

Using Libreoffice:

Version: 7.5.2.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 53bb9681a964705cf672590721dbc85eb4d0c3a2
CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X 13.3; UI render: default; VCL: osx
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

I have two displays, the laptop and an external with it.

I did an "About LibreOffice" on the laptop screen and got what I 
expected, the little window came up. I then tried to move that window to 
the external display and it disappeared!


I tried it multiple times with the same result.

BUT, open the "About" from the menubar of the external display and it 
stays and I can move it to the laptop screen without any problems.



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