Re: [libreoffice-users] 5.1.1 breaks anchored-as-character frames

2016-03-03 Thread Mike Scott

On 03/03/16 13:41, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Mike,

Mike Scott schrieb:
[..]


Is there a way of reverting to an earlier 5.x? Synaptic doesn't offer
these, and makes switching versions something close to agonizingly hard.

Thanks.


I can easily make an administrative installation of any version I want
on Windows, which do not influence each other. Is that not possible on
Linux?


Probably yes, but not by using the PPAs which are supposed to keep life 
simple and consistent. Or at least I don't know how which isn't 
quite the same thing :-)


Looking at the LO downloads page, 'still' seems to be 5.0.5, and 'fresh' 
older than what the LO PPA is serving up. But synaptic lists a good 
dozen or twenty installed packages to do with LO, and no doubt getting 
packages out of sync could be "interesting".


If no-one else has seen this, I guess I'll have to deinstall the lot, 
and try (probably) 'fresh' to see what happens. And then log a bug 
report, although my experience with bugzilla from the OOo days was far 
from happy :-(


Thanks.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] 5.1.1 breaks anchored-as-character frames

2016-03-03 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi,

Mike Scott schrieb:

On 03/03/16 14:47, Robert Funnell wrote:


​As can be seen here, using Linux Mint and the Swedish language as an
example, there's no problem selecting earlier versions of *LO* to
download
(scroll to the bottom of the page to select the desired version) : ​

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=deb-x86_64==sv


​



I don't know how to install an old version using Synaptic and the
standard package-management system, which Mike referred to, but it is
possible to install software directly, as Henri describes.


Quite quick to do. The only problem is that I can't see how to have two
versions installed at once, so logging a bug against 5.1.1 would be a
problem.

FWIW 5.1.0 does behave correctly though.




You might find a guide here:


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel/Linux

Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] 5.1.1 breaks anchored-as-character frames

2016-03-03 Thread Mike Scott

On 03/03/16 14:47, Robert Funnell wrote:


​As can be seen here, using Linux Mint and the Swedish language as an
example, there's no problem selecting earlier versions of *LO* to
download
(scroll to the bottom of the page to select the desired version) : ​

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=deb-x86_64==sv

​



I don't know how to install an old version using Synaptic and the
standard package-management system, which Mike referred to, but it is
possible to install software directly, as Henri describes.


Quite quick to do. The only problem is that I can't see how to have two 
versions installed at once, so logging a bug against 5.1.1 would be a 
problem.


FWIW 5.1.0 does behave correctly though.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] 5.1.1 breaks anchored-as-character frames

2016-03-03 Thread Mike Scott

On 03/03/16 14:47, Robert Funnell wrote:


​As can be seen here, using Linux Mint and the Swedish language as an
example, there's no problem selecting earlier versions of *LO* to
download
(scroll to the bottom of the page to select the desired version) : ​

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=deb-x86_64==sv

​



I don't know how to install an old version using Synaptic and the
standard package-management system, which Mike referred to, but it is
possible to install software directly, as Henri describes.


Yes, I've seen that, thanks (I replied to Regina to this effect, but 
that seems to have been delayed). A potential issue is that synaptic has 
LO split across a lot of packages, and there seems some risk of 
conflicts but if no-one has seen my (original) problem I'll have to 
go the manual downgrade route.



(OT)
BTW, Synaptic seems to have its own problems: the 5.1.1 version I had 
from the LO PPA was flagged as "broken" (which I see a lot, not just for 
LO, and means upgrading will be a problem until I've fiddled with apt 
directly). Sometimes synaptic offers a downgrade option - but not for 
the LO PPA: I had to disable that PPA, revert to ubuntu's own (4.x), 
completely deinstall LO, then reinstall to downgrade. Very messy, but 
not an LO issue!



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Re: [libreoffice-users] 5.1.1 breaks anchored-as-character frames

2016-03-03 Thread Robert Funnell

On Thu, 3 Mar 2016, M Henri Day wrote:


2016-03-03 14:41 GMT+01:00 Regina Henschel :


Hi Mike,

Mike Scott schrieb:
[..]



Is there a way of reverting to an earlier 5.x? Synaptic doesn't offer
these, and makes switching versions something close to agonizingly hard.

Thanks.



I can easily make an administrative installation of any version I want on
Windows, which do not influence each other. Is that not possible on Linux?

Kind regards
Regina



​As can be seen here, using Linux Mint and the Swedish language as an
example, there's no problem selecting earlier versions of *LO* to download
(scroll to the bottom of the page to select the desired version) : ​

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=deb-x86_64==sv
​



I don't know how to install an old version using Synaptic and the 
standard package-management system, which Mike referred to, but it is 
possible to install software directly, as Henri describes.


- Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] 5.1.1 breaks anchored-as-character frames

2016-03-03 Thread M Henri Day
2016-03-03 14:41 GMT+01:00 Regina Henschel :

> Hi Mike,
>
> Mike Scott schrieb:
> [..]
>
>>
>> Is there a way of reverting to an earlier 5.x? Synaptic doesn't offer
>> these, and makes switching versions something close to agonizingly hard.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
> I can easily make an administrative installation of any version I want on
> Windows, which do not influence each other. Is that not possible on Linux?
>
> Kind regards
> Regina


​As can be seen here, using Linux Mint and the Swedish language as an
example, there's no problem selecting earlier versions of *LO* to download
(scroll to the bottom of the page to select the desired version) : ​

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=deb-x86_64==sv
​

Henri

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Re: [libreoffice-users] 5.1.1 breaks anchored-as-character frames

2016-03-03 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Mike,

Mike Scott schrieb:
[..]


Is there a way of reverting to an earlier 5.x? Synaptic doesn't offer
these, and makes switching versions something close to agonizingly hard.

Thanks.


I can easily make an administrative installation of any version I want 
on Windows, which do not influence each other. Is that not possible on 
Linux?


Kind regards
Regina


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[libreoffice-users] 5.1.1 breaks anchored-as-character frames

2016-03-03 Thread Mike Scott

Spot of bother here.

I'm creating .odt files from a home-brew application, and using LO to 
'polish up' the formatting. The files contain a lot of frames anchored 
as characters - each has text (a chord symbol) that appears above the 
line of lyrics.


This used to work reasonably well; the last document I had prepared is 
dated February 8th, and there was no issue (the was version 5.something 
- possibly 5.0.x, possibly 5.1.0; but I can't be sure). Today, for the 
same document, the frames are pretty well all positioned in the same 
wrong place, the text is invisible, and they have a box (the style says 
no box).


With some effort, I've reverted back from 5.1.1 (from the LO PPA) to 
4.2.8.2 (from the ubuntu PPA) and now things are more or less working as 
they used to. So something's broken since mid-Feb - presumably LO as my 
files haven't changed.


Anyone else having problems, or can shed light please?

Is there a way of reverting to an earlier 5.x? Synaptic doesn't offer 
these, and makes switching versions something close to agonizingly hard.


Thanks.

(Mint 17, btw, in case it's relevant)

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