Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc worksheet stalls when opening. Solved!

2014-03-14 Thread William Drago

All,

I tried Tom's suggestion and opened the file with Gnumerics. 
This awesome little program opened the spreadsheet and let 
me know what was wrong with it:


Unable to load the file 
'https://retiretxn300.fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
Unable to load the file 
'https://retiretxn300.fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
Unable to load the file 
'https://retiretxn300.fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
Unable to load the file 
'https://retiretxn300.fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
Unable to load the file 
'https://retiretxn300.fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
Unable to load the file 
'https://retiretxn300.fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
Unable to load the file 
'https://retiretxn300.fidelity.com/static/netbenefits/common/images/nb_footer_logo.gif'.


At one time I had copied  pasted some information from my 
retirement account into the spreadsheet. Unless I'm logged 
into my Fidelity account, none of these URLs will work.


Now I have 3 questions:

1) Why doesn't LO tell us what the problems are like 
Gnumerics does instead of stalling for 20 minutes or more?

2) Why is the timeout period so long? 20 minutes? Really?
3) When we copy  paste a webpage why is LO storing links to 
images instead of the actual images?


Anyway, at least now I know how to fix this.

-Bill





On 3/12/2014 11:11 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Also wondering what the memory setting are like

Tools - Options - Memory

On most machines you can bump al those values right up.  the defaults
are for very low spec machines.

How large/heavy is the spreadsheet?  If it's over 10Mb then that might
explain it.  Does it have lots of embedded images in it?  Could those
be just linked to rather than embedded?

Have you tried using Gnumeric for that spreadsheet?  Gnumeric is a
dedicated spreadsheeting program so it's far more sophisticated than
Calc/Excel for some things.  Quite a few people have it alongside
LibreOffice or other office suite for use when they need something
really serious.

Regards from
Tom :)





On 12 March 2014 07:39, pete nikolic pg.nikol...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 22:25:32 -0400
Alan B abo...@gmail.com wrote:


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:21 PM, William Drago wdr...@suffolk.lib.ny.uswrote:


I have a spreadsheet that stalls when I try to open it and when I try to
save it. It does eventually open after a very long time. I


Just looking for confirmation the issue is with only one particular
spreadsheet?

Calc on Ubuntu does this to me fairly often with any spreadsheet. I filed a
bug report but I don't think there's active interest in it. When the report
was filed I got a suggestion to upgrade, did so and the problem stopped.
Now, a few Ubuntu patches later, and the stall when open behavior is back.

My work around has been Apache OpenOffice. When I get tired of the stalling
(and it's only Calc not Write or other programs) I start using AOO Calc.
Usually after a few LO patches are part of the Ubuntu updates the stalling
stops.

So... if is a problem with any spreadsheet, check if there is a newer LO
and install that to see if the issue is resolved.

If the issue isn't resolved by upgrading LO consider installing AOO and try
opening the spreadsheet with AOO Calc. If the problem persists when the
spreadsheet is opened with AOO Calc it is definitely the spreadsheet.

Regardless of trying AOO, if it is only one particular spreadsheet, a bit
more information would be helpful trying to diagnose the problem.

- did this spreadsheet always act this way?
  - if no,
   -- what changes were made to the computer between the time the
spreadsheet last opened normally and first opened slowly? i.e., add/remove,
upgrade, or patch software
   -- what changes were made to the spreadsheet between the time it last
opened normally and it first opened slowly? ie, add borders to cells,
create new formulas, add more data


Hi

Just a suggestion from personal experience .

I use Presents quite a lot  i was having problems with very slow opening of
certain  ODP files  like 2 to 3 mins   .

I started having problems logging into my user on the system  so bit the bullet
thought  sod it created another user moved some important  stuff to the new user
No more slow opening problems   .

Like i said at the start just a suggestion from personal experience


Pete .


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc worksheet stalls when opening. Solved!

2014-03-14 Thread Cley Faye
2014-03-14 11:41 GMT+01:00 William Drago wdr...@suffolk.lib.ny.us:

 All,

 I tried Tom's suggestion and opened the file with Gnumerics. This awesome
 little program opened the spreadsheet and let me know what was wrong with
 it:

 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
 fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
 fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
 fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
 fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
 fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
 fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.fidelity.com/static/
 netbenefits/common/images/nb_footer_logo.gif'.

 At one time I had copied  pasted some information from my retirement
 account into the spreadsheet. Unless I'm logged into my Fidelity account,
 none of these URLs will work.

 Now I have 3 questions:

 1) Why doesn't LO tell us what the problems are like Gnumerics does
 instead of stalling for 20 minutes or more?


​Not sure, maybe he is just trying to open them.​ But these images load
fine without being logged anywhere (I can see them), so I'm not sure that
the problem is there. It might be related to another resource on internet
anyway.

2) Why is the timeout period so long? 20 minutes? Really?


​My previous statement kinda invalid the idea of a timeout (unless the
website was down all the time you tried to open the file...). But if the
issue lies in Calc behing unable to open a file with https links, the
​timeout per file isn't insanely high: 2-3 minutes is a fairly reasonable
value to accomodate with dead-slow connections.
But since the images load correctly... moot point :(



 3) When we copy  paste a webpage why is LO storing links to images
 instead of the actual images?


I believe it's by design: it is not always desirable to create multiple
copies of the image source; especially if it's not a static image, that is
used to convey updated informations for example; or if you are working on
a document where graphic designers can update their work, put placeholder
in places, etc. In this regard, it keeps the URL as the image source as it
would keep the abolute file path from a file source.

Note that you can see and kill these links by going in the Edit menu:
Edit-Links. There you can select all links and hit Break Links.
If the issue lies in Calc loading a file with linked images on the web,
this can avoid the issue (given you do it before saving, of course).
However, since these links are publicly accessible, a failure to load them
by Calc is likely a bug if it is confirmed.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc worksheet stalls when opening. Solved!

2014-03-14 Thread William Drago
Did you try embedded those images in a LO spreadsheet to see 
if they load, or did you just open them in your browser?


-Bill

On 3/14/2014 7:00 AM, Cley Faye wrote:

2014-03-14 11:41 GMT+01:00 William Drago wdr...@suffolk.lib.ny.us:


All,

I tried Tom's suggestion and opened the file with Gnumerics. This awesome
little program opened the spreadsheet and let me know what was wrong with
it:

Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.fidelity.com/static/
netbenefits/common/images/nb_footer_logo.gif'.

At one time I had copied  pasted some information from my retirement
account into the spreadsheet. Unless I'm logged into my Fidelity account,
none of these URLs will work.

Now I have 3 questions:

1) Why doesn't LO tell us what the problems are like Gnumerics does
instead of stalling for 20 minutes or more?


​Not sure, maybe he is just trying to open them.​ But these images load
fine without being logged anywhere (I can see them), so I'm not sure that
the problem is there. It might be related to another resource on internet
anyway.

2) Why is the timeout period so long? 20 minutes? Really?
​My previous statement kinda invalid the idea of a timeout (unless the
website was down all the time you tried to open the file...). But if the
issue lies in Calc behing unable to open a file with https links, the
​timeout per file isn't insanely high: 2-3 minutes is a fairly reasonable
value to accomodate with dead-slow connections.
But since the images load correctly... moot point :(




3) When we copy  paste a webpage why is LO storing links to images
instead of the actual images?


I believe it's by design: it is not always desirable to create multiple
copies of the image source; especially if it's not a static image, that is
used to convey updated informations for example; or if you are working on
a document where graphic designers can update their work, put placeholder
in places, etc. In this regard, it keeps the URL as the image source as it
would keep the abolute file path from a file source.

Note that you can see and kill these links by going in the Edit menu:
Edit-Links. There you can select all links and hit Break Links.
If the issue lies in Calc loading a file with linked images on the web,
this can avoid the issue (given you do it before saving, of course).
However, since these links are publicly accessible, a failure to load them
by Calc is likely a bug if it is confirmed.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc worksheet stalls when opening. Solved!

2014-03-14 Thread Cley Faye
I opened them in a browser, which, if everything was working correctly,
should not be different from the point of view of the server, meaning it
should provide the requested files to both. And I copy/pasted a page from a
website containing linked images into a calc file, which closed and
reopened just fine.
Now, I can't link these image specifically, as Calc just won't paste them
at all if they are not on a complete page (which is weird in itself).
Maybe there's something in the image format, or the fact that it's https,
that Calc just don't like. Saldy I can't test this extensively.

2014-03-14 12:26 GMT+01:00 William Drago wdr...@suffolk.lib.ny.us:

 Did you try embedded those images in a LO spreadsheet to see if they load,
 or did you just open them in your browser?

 -Bill


 On 3/14/2014 7:00 AM, Cley Faye wrote:

 2014-03-14 11:41 GMT+01:00 William Drago wdr...@suffolk.lib.ny.us:

  All,

 I tried Tom's suggestion and opened the file with Gnumerics. This awesome
 little program opened the spreadsheet and let me know what was wrong with
 it:

 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
 fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
 fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
 fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
 fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
 fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.
 fidelity.com/images/savings2/alert.gif'.
 Unable to load the file 'https://retiretxn300.fidelity.com/static/

 netbenefits/common/images/nb_footer_logo.gif'.

 At one time I had copied  pasted some information from my retirement
 account into the spreadsheet. Unless I'm logged into my Fidelity account,
 none of these URLs will work.

 Now I have 3 questions:

 1) Why doesn't LO tell us what the problems are like Gnumerics does
 instead of stalling for 20 minutes or more?

  ​Not sure, maybe he is just trying to open them.​ But these images load
 fine without being logged anywhere (I can see them), so I'm not sure that
 the problem is there. It might be related to another resource on internet
 anyway.

 2) Why is the timeout period so long? 20 minutes? Really?
 ​My previous statement kinda invalid the idea of a timeout (unless the
 website was down all the time you tried to open the file...). But if the
 issue lies in Calc behing unable to open a file with https links, the
 ​timeout per file isn't insanely high: 2-3 minutes is a fairly
 reasonable
 value to accomodate with dead-slow connections.
 But since the images load correctly... moot point :(



  3) When we copy  paste a webpage why is LO storing links to images
 instead of the actual images?

  I believe it's by design: it is not always desirable to create multiple
 copies of the image source; especially if it's not a static image, that is
 used to convey updated informations for example; or if you are working
 on
 a document where graphic designers can update their work, put placeholder
 in places, etc. In this regard, it keeps the URL as the image source as it
 would keep the abolute file path from a file source.

 Note that you can see and kill these links by going in the Edit menu:
 Edit-Links. There you can select all links and hit Break Links.
 If the issue lies in Calc loading a file with linked images on the web,
 this can avoid the issue (given you do it before saving, of course).
 However, since these links are publicly accessible, a failure to load them
 by Calc is likely a bug if it is confirmed.



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