Re: [libreoffice-users] Internal Bookmarks

2016-09-08 Thread fudmer rieley
does this solution.. require that all subsequent entries 
made to footnotes must follow the field tabbed sequence?
if not, how does LO distinguish between a field entry and 
and a text entry.. 




On Thu, 9/8/16, Regina Henschel <rb.hensc...@t-online.de> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Internal Bookmarks
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Thursday, September 8, 2016, 5:10 AM
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Jonathan Allen schrieb:
 > Dear List,
 >
 > A document I am writing needs to have
 internal references in its footnotes
 >
 and I really need to be able to keep these automatically
 up-to-date with
 > the page numbers. 
 They would look this (here ascii-fied):
 >
 >     [176]
 6.4.2 Session Highlights, 47
 >
 > I expect to provide the section number and
 title, but the page number '47'
 >
 in the example above ought to track from the text itself.
 
 Do not write anything
 manually; use "Fields".
 
 >
 > How can I plant the
 marker in the original text and then reference it
 > in the footnote?
 
 There exists a lot of predefined markers, and
 therefore you seldom need 
 to set bookmarks
 manually.
 
 After you have
 used Insert -> Footnote/Endnote your Cursor is in the 
 footnote area. Now use Insert -> Field ->
 More Fields... -> tab "Cross 
 references". In your case you need the
 Type "Headings".
 
 In the part "Selection" select the
 heading for which you will enter a 
 reference. In the part "Insert reference
 to" you can select what 
 information of
 the referenced heading will be shown. In your case you 
 need to insert the reference three times, each
 with a different 
 information. First use
 "Number" to get "6.4.2", second use
 "Reference" 
 to get "Sessions
 Highlights", and third use "Page" to get
 "47".
 
 All will
 update automatically, if you made changes in the text, for
 
 example change the wording of the heading
 or insert/delete text parts 
 which will
 affect the number or page.
 
 Kind regards
 Regina
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Internal Bookmarks

2016-09-08 Thread Jonathan Allen
Regina,

> After you have used Insert -> Footnote/Endnote your Cursor is in the
> footnote area. Now use Insert -> Field -> More Fields... -> tab
> "Cross references". In your case you need the Type "Headings".
> 
> In the part "Selection" select the heading for which you will enter
> a reference. In the part "Insert reference to" you can select what
> information of the referenced heading will be shown. In your case
> you need to insert the reference three times, each with a different
> information. First use "Number" to get "6.4.2", second use
> "Reference" to get "Sessions Highlights", and third use "Page" to
> get "47".

That is amazing - just about everything I need and with less effort than
I imagined.  Thank you so much for the explanation.

Jonathan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Internal Bookmarks

2016-09-08 Thread Jonathan Allen
Brian,

> If you prefer not to use Heading paragraph styles or you need to
> refer to some other sort of object, you can simply place a bookmark
> (Insert | Bookmark...) at the target item. Then "Bookmarks" is
> another option under Type in the Fields dialogue.

This will be very useful too, as some of the text is some way (and pages)
from the latest section heading and there may well be tables as well.

Jonathan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Internal Bookmarks

2016-09-08 Thread Brian Barker

At 09:29 08/09/2016 +0100, Jonathan Allen wrote:
A document I am writing needs to have internal references in its 
footnotes and I really need to be able to keep these automatically 
up-to-date with the page numbers. They would look this (here ascii-fied):


[176] 6.4.2 Session Highlights, 47

I expect to provide the section number and title, but the page 
number '47' in the example above ought to track from the text 
itself. How can I plant the marker in the original text and then 
reference it in the footnote?


I'm no expert, but I think this is how to do this:

If the reference is to a "section number and title", the title will 
presumably have appeared where it does with one of the Heading 
paragraph styles. If so:

o In the footnote, go to Insert | Fields > | Other... | Cross-references.
o Under Type, select Headings.
o Under Selection, select the relevant heading.
o Under "Insert reference to", select Page.
o Insert.
o Close.

If you prefer not to use Heading paragraph styles or you need to 
refer to some other sort of object, you can simply place a bookmark 
(Insert | Bookmark...) at the target item. Then "Bookmarks" is 
another option under Type in the Fields dialogue.


You may need to use Tools | Update | Update All to see the result of 
changes in pagination immediately, but documents will always open refreshed.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Internal Bookmarks

2016-09-08 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Jonathan,

Jonathan Allen schrieb:

Dear List,

A document I am writing needs to have internal references in its footnotes
and I really need to be able to keep these automatically up-to-date with
the page numbers.  They would look this (here ascii-fied):

[176] 6.4.2 Session Highlights, 47

I expect to provide the section number and title, but the page number '47'
in the example above ought to track from the text itself.


Do not write anything manually; use "Fields".



How can I plant the marker in the original text and then reference it
in the footnote?


There exists a lot of predefined markers, and therefore you seldom need 
to set bookmarks manually.


After you have used Insert -> Footnote/Endnote your Cursor is in the 
footnote area. Now use Insert -> Field -> More Fields... -> tab "Cross 
references". In your case you need the Type "Headings".


In the part "Selection" select the heading for which you will enter a 
reference. In the part "Insert reference to" you can select what 
information of the referenced heading will be shown. In your case you 
need to insert the reference three times, each with a different 
information. First use "Number" to get "6.4.2", second use "Reference" 
to get "Sessions Highlights", and third use "Page" to get "47".


All will update automatically, if you made changes in the text, for 
example change the wording of the heading or insert/delete text parts 
which will affect the number or page.


Kind regards
Regina


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[libreoffice-users] Internal Bookmarks

2016-09-08 Thread Jonathan Allen
Dear List,

A document I am writing needs to have internal references in its footnotes
and I really need to be able to keep these automatically up-to-date with
the page numbers.  They would look this (here ascii-fied):

   [176] 6.4.2 Session Highlights, 47

I expect to provide the section number and title, but the page number '47'
in the example above ought to track from the text itself.

How can I plant the marker in the original text and then reference it
in the footnote?

Jonathan

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