Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Calc Excel corrected?
At 18:01 04/09/2018 +0100, Brian Barker wrote: At 12:04 04/09/2018 -0400, Charles Meyer wrote: [...] Can you toggle among case sizes in Libre Calc? Not that I know of. I don't know why I wrote that. You have what you need at Format | Change Case >, of course. Apologies. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Calc – Excel corrected?
In Word, you can toggle among small case – initial caps - all caps easily – but not in Excel. Er, we are not talking about Word, either! Can you toggle among case sizes in Libre Calc? Not that I know of. But you could easily copy material into a text (Writer) document, modify it there, and copy it back. If you use Paste Special... and paste it into the text document as HTML you should see a table. That way, you can handle arbitrary ranges in one go, not just individual cells. I created a Calc document. Step 1: Select all cells of interest: Step 2: Use (1) Format > UPPERCASE (2) Format > lowercase (3) Format > Capitalize Every Word (4) Format > Sentence Case (5) Format > Toggle case This directly changes the text of interest, but, I think that it will NOT affect text shown that is produced by an equation. For example, =UPPER(A1) will always show as upper case. In Write, special case is handled using the Character Style. I do not believe that you can use a character style in Calc. A character style dictates how characters are displayed. They have a property CharCaseMap Specify how characters should be displayed using the com.sun.star.style.CaseMap constant group. This does not change the actual text—only the way it is displayed. • NONE = 0 – No case mapping is performed; this is the most commonly used value. • UPPERCASE = 1 – All characters are displayed in uppercase. • LOWERCASE = 2 – All characters are displayed in lowercase. • TITLE = 3 – The first character of each word is displayed in uppercase. • SMALLCAPS = 4 – All characters are displayed in uppercase, but with a smaller font. If you edit a character style, click on the Font Effects tab and the "Effects" drop-down allows you to set this. In calc, if you Format a Cell, there is also a Font Effects tab, but, there is no "Effects" drop-down or any other way to change how the text is displayed with respect to case. Although a Calc cell contains a text object, I do not see the CharCaseMap property in the text object. Seems that CharCsaeMap is an optional property so it need not be supported https://api.libreoffice.org/docs/idl/ref/servicecom_1_1sun_1_1star_1_1style_1_1CharacterProperties.html#ab8138e9a5d1a97f5fbbc2b431ca0cffa I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Calc – Excel corrected?
On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 12:04:48 -0400 charles meyer wrote: > My esteemed mates, > Excel seems to have a built-in flaw where if one cell gets too close > to another cell the cell with characters in it creates an extra line > of space under the line of characters. > > Ex. In an Excel cell … The cell is getting too close > > Is there anyway to delete/remove/eliminate that extra space under > characters in a cell in Libre Calc? Charles, I think that what you mean here is that your workbook sometimes inserts a word wrap where no word wrap seems to be called for: that is, you have one line of text and the cell takes up two lines. This happens when the line of text is very close to the right edge of the cell. Right? It's not an extra space under the characters. I believe that it's the application, whether it's Calc or Excel or whatever, being slightly off in its calibration of how much room the characters have taken up. If you delete so much as a period, the cell will wrap correctly. But you probably need that period. The wrapping is a visual annoyance, but I have never seen it affect the contents in any way. My experience is that if you stick with the default font in the default blank workbook/spreadsheet, you'll see much less of this. In Windows (or at least in my installation of LibreOffice in my installation of Windows 10), Calc's default font is Liberation Sans 10-point. I think that's what it is in Linux, too, but it has been a while and I'm not sure. Anyway, I do find that LibreOffice Calc is more reliable about accurate word wrapping than Excel (with a default of Calibri 10, again, if I remember correctly). But no spreadsheet application I've ever tried, going back to Quattro Pro (which has been bundled with WordPerfect since about 1995), has ever been 100% reliable about word wrapping. If I change the default font to something that's easier for me to read, old geezer that I am, I'm *much* more likely to see those unexpected word wraps. If 10-point Liberation Sans (which is quite a bit like Arial) isn't a good choice to work in for you, maybe you can try zooming the view to 125% or something. Hope this helps at least a little bit. I'm not a technical wizard by any means, but I crank out a spreadsheet a week on average (mostly for inventory and organizational purposes, less so for math or formulas), and that has been my experience. Eddie -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Calc Excel corrected?
At 12:04 04/09/2018 -0400, Charles Meyer wrote: Excel seems to have a built-in flaw ... I'm not sure we discuss other providers' products here! ... where if one cell gets too close to another cell ... All cells in a spreadsheet abut all surrounding cells. There is never any question about how close they are: they are always completely close. Ex. In an Excel cell The cell is getting too close ___ Shall we talk about Calc? The only way this sort of thing could happen, I think, is if the text in the cell actually contains trailing spaces and that the cell formatting is set to "Wrap text automatically". Is there anyway to delete/remove/eliminate that extra space under characters in a cell in Libre Calc? Yes: o Delete those rogue space characters (if you don't need them), or o Change the font size, or o Expand the column width appropriately. o Merge cells appropriately. Also, Excel does not allow you to change the case size after you've saved the file. I don't believe that - but we are not talking about Excel; remember? In Word, you can toggle among small case initial caps - all caps easily but not in Excel. Er, we are not talking about Word, either! Can you toggle among case sizes in Libre Calc? Not that I know of. But you could easily copy material into a text (Writer) document, modify it there, and copy it back. If you use Paste Special... and paste it into the text document as HTML you should see a table. That way, you can handle arbitrary ranges in one go, not just individual cells. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-users] Libre Calc – Excel corrected?
My esteemed mates, Excel seems to have a built-in flaw where if one cell gets too close to another cell the cell with characters in it creates an extra line of space under the line of characters. Ex. In an Excel cell … The cell is getting too close ___ Is there anyway to delete/remove/eliminate that extra space under characters in a cell in Libre Calc? Also, Excel does not allow you to change the case size after you’ve saved the file. In Word, you can toggle among small case – initial caps - all caps easily – but not in Excel. Can you toggle among case sizes in Libre Calc? Thank you! Charles. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
