Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Repository with LibreOffice 4.4 for Fedora 21+?
On 02/05/2015 07:07 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think you can usually just install over the top to wipe the previous version. However on an extremely rare occasion that might not work in which case you might need to remove/uninstall everything and then reinstall the newer version. however when you do so you can keep the User Profile so that all your settings, configs, galleries, Extensions/add-ons/plugins, templates and all the rest remain intact. It's quite a good idea to create a copy of your User Profile every so often so that it's easier to get back to a configuration you liked if anything crazy ever happens. It's the price of getting a much newer and more updated version. Windows users always have to install any programs this way so it's a bit like going back to Windows for a little moment. Regards from Tom :) On 5 February 2015 at 11:58, avamk avkapl...@gmail.com wrote: I see. If I install LibreOffice 4.4 manually (via the RPM I'm guessing?) can I just install a newer version over it once it's released, or do I have to remove the whole thing before installing an update? Thanks! On 05/02/2015, timllloyd [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4138820...@n3.nabble.com wrote: Hi, the best suggestion is to grab the latest from the LO site (you will have to monitor the site for updates): http://www.libreoffice.org/ As well as monitoring for updates you also have to install remove manually. As you are using Fedora I assume you are familiar with that process but any problems pls sing out. Cheers On 05/02/15 11:59, avamk wrote: Hello, LibreOffice in the Fedora 21 repositories are currently in the 4.3 series. Is there an updated LibreOffice repository for Fedora 21 (and also future versions) that have LibreOffice 4.4? I like to use the newest version of LibreOffice on Fedora if possible. Thanks! with Fedora 21 I have been using the standard Fedora release, but, if you do not, I think that you can remove the existing using yum... Is it installed? yum list installed | grep libreoffice I expect that you can remove it using yum remove libreoffice* I have always used yum localinstall *.rpm to install the RPMs after I extract the code. Last time I did this, there was a GUI integration driectory under the standard RPM directory. I changed to that directory and installed the RPM meant for UI integration for gnome. I don't remember what that is called off hand, or even if it is still required. I don't have time now to download and check the RPMs, but, if you send a list of RPMs, I can tell you which one it is. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Repository with LibreOffice 4.4 for Fedora 21+?
Side note... You probably need to modify one of your yum configuration files to tell yum to ignore LO updates. On Feb 5, 2015 9:08 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 02/05/2015 07:07 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think you can usually just install over the top to wipe the previous version. However on an extremely rare occasion that might not work in which case you might need to remove/uninstall everything and then reinstall the newer version. however when you do so you can keep the User Profile so that all your settings, configs, galleries, Extensions/add-ons/plugins, templates and all the rest remain intact. It's quite a good idea to create a copy of your User Profile every so often so that it's easier to get back to a configuration you liked if anything crazy ever happens. It's the price of getting a much newer and more updated version. Windows users always have to install any programs this way so it's a bit like going back to Windows for a little moment. Regards from Tom :) On 5 February 2015 at 11:58, avamk avkapl...@gmail.com wrote: I see. If I install LibreOffice 4.4 manually (via the RPM I'm guessing?) can I just install a newer version over it once it's released, or do I have to remove the whole thing before installing an update? Thanks! On 05/02/2015, timllloyd [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4138820...@n3.nabble.com wrote: Hi, the best suggestion is to grab the latest from the LO site (you will have to monitor the site for updates): http://www.libreoffice.org/ As well as monitoring for updates you also have to install remove manually. As you are using Fedora I assume you are familiar with that process but any problems pls sing out. Cheers On 05/02/15 11:59, avamk wrote: Hello, LibreOffice in the Fedora 21 repositories are currently in the 4.3 series. Is there an updated LibreOffice repository for Fedora 21 (and also future versions) that have LibreOffice 4.4? I like to use the newest version of LibreOffice on Fedora if possible. Thanks! with Fedora 21 I have been using the standard Fedora release, but, if you do not, I think that you can remove the existing using yum... Is it installed? yum list installed | grep libreoffice I expect that you can remove it using yum remove libreoffice* I have always used yum localinstall *.rpm to install the RPMs after I extract the code. Last time I did this, there was a GUI integration driectory under the standard RPM directory. I changed to that directory and installed the RPM meant for UI integration for gnome. I don't remember what that is called off hand, or even if it is still required. I don't have time now to download and check the RPMs, but, if you send a list of RPMs, I can tell you which one it is. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Repository with LibreOffice 4.4 for Fedora 21+?
OK, I followed everyone's tips and was able to replace the Fedora repository-installed LibreOffice 4.3 with 4.4 installed from the RPMs downloaded from the LibreOffice site!! Sorry I've never tinkered with YUM configuration before, how to I modify it to ignore LibreOffice updates? Another strange thing is that when (and only when) I enable Use OpenGL for all rendering in options, (1) all vertical scroll bars become upside down (i.e. the bar moves up from the bottom when I scroll down), (2) all checks in checkboxes are upside down, and (3) when I resize a window the expanded area is all dark! Has this happened to anyone else?? Thanks for your replies! On 05/02/2015, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n413...@n3.nabble.com wrote: Side note... You probably need to modify one of your yum configuration files to tell yum to ignore LO updates. On Feb 5, 2015 9:08 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 02/05/2015 07:07 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think you can usually just install over the top to wipe the previous version. However on an extremely rare occasion that might not work in which case you might need to remove/uninstall everything and then reinstall the newer version. however when you do so you can keep the User Profile so that all your settings, configs, galleries, Extensions/add-ons/plugins, templates and all the rest remain intact. It's quite a good idea to create a copy of your User Profile every so often so that it's easier to get back to a configuration you liked if anything crazy ever happens. It's the price of getting a much newer and more updated version. Windows users always have to install any programs this way so it's a bit like going back to Windows for a little moment. Regards from Tom :) On 5 February 2015 at 11:58, avamk avkapl...@gmail.com wrote: I see. If I install LibreOffice 4.4 manually (via the RPM I'm guessing?) can I just install a newer version over it once it's released, or do I have to remove the whole thing before installing an update? Thanks! On 05/02/2015, timllloyd [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4138820...@n3.nabble.com wrote: Hi, the best suggestion is to grab the latest from the LO site (you will have to monitor the site for updates): http://www.libreoffice.org/ As well as monitoring for updates you also have to install remove manually. As you are using Fedora I assume you are familiar with that process but any problems pls sing out. Cheers On 05/02/15 11:59, avamk wrote: Hello, LibreOffice in the Fedora 21 repositories are currently in the 4.3 series. Is there an updated LibreOffice repository for Fedora 21 (and also future versions) that have LibreOffice 4.4? I like to use the newest version of LibreOffice on Fedora if possible. Thanks! with Fedora 21 I have been using the standard Fedora release, but, if you do not, I think that you can remove the existing using yum... Is it installed? yum list installed | grep libreoffice I expect that you can remove it using yum remove libreoffice* I have always used yum localinstall *.rpm to install the RPMs after I extract the code. Last time I did this, there was a GUI integration driectory under the standard RPM directory. I changed to that directory and installed the RPM meant for UI integration for gnome. I don't remember what that is called off hand, or even if it is still required. I don't have time now to download and check the RPMs, but, if you send a list of RPMs, I can tell you which one it is. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Repository-with-LibreOffice-4-4-for-Fedora-21-tp4138819p413.html To unsubscribe from Repository with LibreOffice 4.4 for Fedora 21+?, visit
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Repository with LibreOffice 4.4 for Fedora 21+?
As root, edit /etc/yum.conf In the [main] section append a line like exclude=libreoffice* On Feb 5, 2015 9:37 AM, avamk avkapl...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I followed everyone's tips and was able to replace the Fedora repository-installed LibreOffice 4.3 with 4.4 installed from the RPMs downloaded from the LibreOffice site!! Sorry I've never tinkered with YUM configuration before, how to I modify it to ignore LibreOffice updates? Another strange thing is that when (and only when) I enable Use OpenGL for all rendering in options, (1) all vertical scroll bars become upside down (i.e. the bar moves up from the bottom when I scroll down), (2) all checks in checkboxes are upside down, and (3) when I resize a window the expanded area is all dark! Has this happened to anyone else?? Thanks for your replies! On 05/02/2015, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n413...@n3.nabble.com wrote: Side note... You probably need to modify one of your yum configuration files to tell yum to ignore LO updates. On Feb 5, 2015 9:08 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 02/05/2015 07:07 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think you can usually just install over the top to wipe the previous version. However on an extremely rare occasion that might not work in which case you might need to remove/uninstall everything and then reinstall the newer version. however when you do so you can keep the User Profile so that all your settings, configs, galleries, Extensions/add-ons/plugins, templates and all the rest remain intact. It's quite a good idea to create a copy of your User Profile every so often so that it's easier to get back to a configuration you liked if anything crazy ever happens. It's the price of getting a much newer and more updated version. Windows users always have to install any programs this way so it's a bit like going back to Windows for a little moment. Regards from Tom :) On 5 February 2015 at 11:58, avamk avkapl...@gmail.com wrote: I see. If I install LibreOffice 4.4 manually (via the RPM I'm guessing?) can I just install a newer version over it once it's released, or do I have to remove the whole thing before installing an update? Thanks! On 05/02/2015, timllloyd [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4138820...@n3.nabble.com wrote: Hi, the best suggestion is to grab the latest from the LO site (you will have to monitor the site for updates): http://www.libreoffice.org/ As well as monitoring for updates you also have to install remove manually. As you are using Fedora I assume you are familiar with that process but any problems pls sing out. Cheers On 05/02/15 11:59, avamk wrote: Hello, LibreOffice in the Fedora 21 repositories are currently in the 4.3 series. Is there an updated LibreOffice repository for Fedora 21 (and also future versions) that have LibreOffice 4.4? I like to use the newest version of LibreOffice on Fedora if possible. Thanks! with Fedora 21 I have been using the standard Fedora release, but, if you do not, I think that you can remove the existing using yum... Is it installed? yum list installed | grep libreoffice I expect that you can remove it using yum remove libreoffice* I have always used yum localinstall *.rpm to install the RPMs after I extract the code. Last time I did this, there was a GUI integration driectory under the standard RPM directory. I changed to that directory and installed the RPM meant for UI integration for gnome. I don't remember what that is called off hand, or even if it is still required. I don't have time now to download and check the RPMs, but, if you send a list of RPMs, I can tell you which one it is. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Repository with LibreOffice 4.4 for Fedora 21+?
I see. If I install LibreOffice 4.4 manually (via the RPM I'm guessing?) can I just install a newer version over it once it's released, or do I have to remove the whole thing before installing an update? Thanks! On 05/02/2015, timllloyd [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4138820...@n3.nabble.com wrote: Hi, the best suggestion is to grab the latest from the LO site (you will have to monitor the site for updates): http://www.libreoffice.org/ As well as monitoring for updates you also have to install remove manually. As you are using Fedora I assume you are familiar with that process but any problems pls sing out. Cheers On 05/02/15 11:59, avamk wrote: Hello, LibreOffice in the Fedora 21 repositories are currently in the 4.3 series. Is there an updated LibreOffice repository for Fedora 21 (and also future versions) that have LibreOffice 4.4? I like to use the newest version of LibreOffice on Fedora if possible. Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Repository-with-LibreOffice-4-4-for-Fedora-21-tp4138819.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Repository-with-LibreOffice-4-4-for-Fedora-21-tp4138819p4138820.html To unsubscribe from Repository with LibreOffice 4.4 for Fedora 21+?, visit http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=4138819code=YXZrYXBsbWt0QGdtYWlsLmNvbXw0MTM4ODE5fC02MzM5MDA3MDg= -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Repository-with-LibreOffice-4-4-for-Fedora-21-tp4138819p4138869.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Repository with LibreOffice 4.4 for Fedora 21+?
Hi :) I think you can usually just install over the top to wipe the previous version. However on an extremely rare occasion that might not work in which case you might need to remove/uninstall everything and then reinstall the newer version. however when you do so you can keep the User Profile so that all your settings, configs, galleries, Extensions/add-ons/plugins, templates and all the rest remain intact. It's quite a good idea to create a copy of your User Profile every so often so that it's easier to get back to a configuration you liked if anything crazy ever happens. It's the price of getting a much newer and more updated version. Windows users always have to install any programs this way so it's a bit like going back to Windows for a little moment. Regards from Tom :) On 5 February 2015 at 11:58, avamk avkapl...@gmail.com wrote: I see. If I install LibreOffice 4.4 manually (via the RPM I'm guessing?) can I just install a newer version over it once it's released, or do I have to remove the whole thing before installing an update? Thanks! On 05/02/2015, timllloyd [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4138820...@n3.nabble.com wrote: Hi, the best suggestion is to grab the latest from the LO site (you will have to monitor the site for updates): http://www.libreoffice.org/ As well as monitoring for updates you also have to install remove manually. As you are using Fedora I assume you are familiar with that process but any problems pls sing out. Cheers On 05/02/15 11:59, avamk wrote: Hello, LibreOffice in the Fedora 21 repositories are currently in the 4.3 series. Is there an updated LibreOffice repository for Fedora 21 (and also future versions) that have LibreOffice 4.4? I like to use the newest version of LibreOffice on Fedora if possible. Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Repository-with-LibreOffice-4-4-for-Fedora-21-tp4138819.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Repository-with-LibreOffice-4-4-for-Fedora-21-tp4138819p4138820.html To unsubscribe from Repository with LibreOffice 4.4 for Fedora 21+?, visit http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=4138819code=YXZrYXBsbWt0QGdtYWlsLmNvbXw0MTM4ODE5fC02MzM5MDA3MDg= -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Repository-with-LibreOffice-4-4-for-Fedora-21-tp4138819p4138869.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Repository with LibreOffice 4.4 for Fedora 21+?
Funny, I never thought of modifying any yum settings. It just works for me! I'll have to check next time I install Fedora! There is a new version of LO about once very month. I normally grab that and install. I keep the tar.gz files in case I don't like the new version (highly unlikely). I also occasionally download the development version which is much more volatile but interesting to have a look at what is in the pipeline. I wouldn't encourage using the dev version for sensitive docs though :) Cheers On 06/02/15 02:19, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: As root, edit /etc/yum.conf In the [main] section append a line like exclude=libreoffice* On Feb 5, 2015 9:37 AM, avamk avkapl...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I followed everyone's tips and was able to replace the Fedora repository-installed LibreOffice 4.3 with 4.4 installed from the RPMs downloaded from the LibreOffice site!! Sorry I've never tinkered with YUM configuration before, how to I modify it to ignore LibreOffice updates? Another strange thing is that when (and only when) I enable Use OpenGL for all rendering in options, (1) all vertical scroll bars become upside down (i.e. the bar moves up from the bottom when I scroll down), (2) all checks in checkboxes are upside down, and (3) when I resize a window the expanded area is all dark! Has this happened to anyone else?? Thanks for your replies! On 05/02/2015, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n413...@n3.nabble.com wrote: Side note... You probably need to modify one of your yum configuration files to tell yum to ignore LO updates. On Feb 5, 2015 9:08 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 02/05/2015 07:07 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think you can usually just install over the top to wipe the previous version. However on an extremely rare occasion that might not work in which case you might need to remove/uninstall everything and then reinstall the newer version. however when you do so you can keep the User Profile so that all your settings, configs, galleries, Extensions/add-ons/plugins, templates and all the rest remain intact. It's quite a good idea to create a copy of your User Profile every so often so that it's easier to get back to a configuration you liked if anything crazy ever happens. It's the price of getting a much newer and more updated version. Windows users always have to install any programs this way so it's a bit like going back to Windows for a little moment. Regards from Tom :) On 5 February 2015 at 11:58, avamk avkapl...@gmail.com wrote: I see. If I install LibreOffice 4.4 manually (via the RPM I'm guessing?) can I just install a newer version over it once it's released, or do I have to remove the whole thing before installing an update? Thanks! On 05/02/2015, timllloyd [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4138820...@n3.nabble.com wrote: Hi, the best suggestion is to grab the latest from the LO site (you will have to monitor the site for updates): http://www.libreoffice.org/ As well as monitoring for updates you also have to install remove manually. As you are using Fedora I assume you are familiar with that process but any problems pls sing out. Cheers On 05/02/15 11:59, avamk wrote: Hello, LibreOffice in the Fedora 21 repositories are currently in the 4.3 series. Is there an updated LibreOffice repository for Fedora 21 (and also future versions) that have LibreOffice 4.4? I like to use the newest version of LibreOffice on Fedora if possible. Thanks! with Fedora 21 I have been using the standard Fedora release, but, if you do not, I think that you can remove the existing using yum... Is it installed? yum list installed | grep libreoffice I expect that you can remove it using yum remove libreoffice* I have always used yum localinstall *.rpm to install the RPMs after I extract the code. Last time I did this, there was a GUI integration driectory under the standard RPM directory. I changed to that directory and installed the RPM meant for UI integration for gnome. I don't remember what that is called off hand, or even if it is still required. I don't have time now to download and check the RPMs, but, if you send a list of RPMs, I can tell you which one it is. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List
