Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found LibreOffice as malware

2016-10-24 Thread Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster 

On 10/24/2016 10:06 PM, Cley Faye wrote:

2016-10-24 17:23 GMT+02:00 M Henri Day :


​I can confirm that I have installed LibreOffice (5.2.3.1) on several
machines running Windows 10 version 1607 (aka the «Anniversary Update»)
with Windows Defender activated​ (
​in addition to having the suite installed on several machines running
Linux Mint 18) ; on n​one of them have I hitherto encountered any problems
of the type described by the OP


Due to the nature of these antivirus, it is very possible that both of
these happened in quick sequence:
- an update to their virus tables/heuristics/whatever got pushed, and
caused LibreOffice to be detected as a malware
- a later update was quickly pushed to fix that

People having the first updates without the second one will have issue,
while people not having the first update, or directly getting the second
one, will not have any problem. These kind of false positive are somewhat
common with antivirus, and usually gets fixed quickly.
For some reason, it seems that MS states that the "anniversary" update 
is officially out in November.  They "say" that for those who installed 
Win10 last year, the update files/packages will be doled out over a few 
months of Tuesday releases for update/fixes and not as one package on a 
single date.




There's also the remote possibility that a malware carrier actually
targeted libreoffice binary and caused a bunch of people to actually be
infected; but since most report of trouble are about a ransomware, and that
none of the complaints resulted in unusable files, it's unlikely :)

I wonder if you have tried scanning the install files via Comodo's 
anti-virus for Linux?  If, for whatever reason, the downloaded file[s] 
does not pass Comodo Internet Suite [free for Windows and Linux] then 
something messed up somewhere.  On Windows, I use a standalone malware 
package and not have Defender activated.  I do not like to use a MS 
created protection system, for some personal reasons.


I know that it seems to be a bug in MS's Defender, but some people may 
think MS included LibreOffice in their "black list" for the malware 
database.  I know some people there would have tried to add competition 
packages into that database to show that LibreOffice has included 
malware or virus, etc., and not to be trusted as a package or trusted 
organization. [did I say it right?]












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Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found LibreOffice as malware

2016-10-24 Thread Cley Faye 
2016-10-24 17:23 GMT+02:00 M Henri Day :

> ​I can confirm that I have installed LibreOffice (5.2.3.1) on several
> machines running Windows 10 version 1607 (aka the «Anniversary Update»)
> with Windows Defender activated​ (
> ​in addition to having the suite installed on several machines running
> Linux Mint 18) ; on n​one of them have I hitherto encountered any problems
> of the type described by the OP
>

Due to the nature of these antivirus, it is very possible that both of
these happened in quick sequence:
- an update to their virus tables/heuristics/whatever got pushed, and
caused LibreOffice to be detected as a malware
- a later update was quickly pushed to fix that

People having the first updates without the second one will have issue,
while people not having the first update, or directly getting the second
one, will not have any problem. These kind of false positive are somewhat
common with antivirus, and usually gets fixed quickly.

There's also the remote possibility that a malware carrier actually
targeted libreoffice binary and caused a bunch of people to actually be
infected; but since most report of trouble are about a ransomware, and that
none of the complaints resulted in unusable files, it's unlikely :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found LibreOffice as malware

2016-10-24 Thread M Henri Day 
2016-10-20 17:29 GMT+02:00 James Knott :

> On 10/20/2016 11:21 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > dam4rus wrote on 20-10-16 09:44:
> >> So, i have Windows 10 with Anniversary Update and today Windows Defender
> >> quarantined soffice.bin, because it thinks it's a Trojan. Is this a
> known
> >> issue? Should i report it as a bug?
> > yes please report it with Microsoft as their bug ;)
> >
> > thanks,
> > Cor
> >
>
>
> FWIW, I have 3 instances of LibreOffice installed on W10 without problem.
> Maybe this is a repeat of the old DR-DOS bug, where when Windows 3.1 was
> installed on DR-DOS, it would complain about some bogus problem.  ;-)
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AARD_code


​I can confirm that I have installed LibreOffice (5.2.3.1) on several
machines running Windows 10 version 1607 (aka the «Anniversary Update»)
with Windows Defender activated​ (
​in addition to having the suite installed on several machines running
Linux Mint 18) ; on n​one of them have I hitherto encountered any problems
of the type described by the OP

Henri

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found LibreOffice as malware

2016-10-23 Thread Brian Barker 

At 15:01 23/10/2016 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote:
What is the "Windows 10 Anniversary Update" ? I have not seen that 
wording when I update my Windows 10 partitions on three systems 
[Home, and Pro editions].


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Windows+10+Anniversary+Update

Brian Barker 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found LibreOffice as malware

2016-10-23 Thread Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster 


What is the "Windows 10 Anniversary Update" ?  I have not seen that 
wording when I update my Windows 10 partitions on three systems [Home, 
and Pro editions].  Of course, I only use/update them a few times a 
month.  I prefer using the packages on Ubuntu.


I use the following free packages, and others to keep my Windows systems 
"healthy":


Comodo Internet Security Software
 Windows, Linux, and even for Android

IObit Malware Fighter 4 Free - -  Remove 100,000,000+ malware
  Windows

IObit Advanced SystemCare 9 Free - - Make PC up to 300% faster
  Windows

For Windows, I do not use Defender, since the Malware Fighter works fine.
I have been using Comodo Internet Security Software for years.  It is 
both Anti-virus and Firewall.
The Advanced SystemCare fills in for much of the rest of the Windows 
system needs to keep "healthy".


There are free versions for all of these packages, but if you want to 
pay for the newest and most powerful versions, that is also an option.


As for the issue with LibreOffice and Windows security errors, I have 
not seen it since the beginning 4.0.x versions.  Actually I think I 
decided to dump Defender around the same time.


Of course, I saw an error with Ubuntu/Debian Linux a few years ago.  
This was an issue with installing the Language packs using both the 
"Ubuntu Software Center" and the Terminal to try to install it.  Both 
gave me errors for the install process.



On 10/20/2016 11:18 AM, Gilles Gravier wrote:

Or switch to a real antivirus. :)

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:59 PM, RODRIGUEZ FONSECA JORGE ALBERTO <
jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com> wrote:


Hi:

I suggest you to unable window defender (I don't think it is a bug). Then
download LibreOffice, install it and then activate again wd.

Regards,

Jorge Rodriguez

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From: "dam4rus" <rfrostkal...@gmail.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 1:44:03 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found
LibreOffice as malware

So, i have Windows 10 with Anniversary Update and today Windows Defender
quarantined soffice.bin, because it thinks it's a Trojan. Is this a known
issue? Should i report it as a bug? I haven't found anything about this
with
google search.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found LibreOffice as malware

2016-10-20 Thread Cley Faye 
2016-10-20 9:44 GMT+02:00 dam4rus :

> So, i have Windows 10 with Anniversary Update and today Windows Defender
> quarantined soffice.bin, because it thinks it's a Trojan. Is this a known
> issue? Should i report it as a bug? I haven't found anything about this
> with
> google search.
>

​Yes, it should be reported as a bug to microsoft (don't know how to do
that though).

Although it is easy to see this as a "strategic move" from MS, it is also
very possible that it is just the result of some heuristics; no doubt they
(MS) have seen quite a few version of the soffice.bin file since
LibreOffice have a lot of version around simultaneously.

There's also the remote possibility that a real trojan stepped in and
infected the file. Uninstalling, checking the system and reinstalling might
fix this, but hopefully this isn't the case.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found LibreOffice as malware

2016-10-20 Thread James Knott 
On 10/20/2016 11:21 AM, Cor Nouws wrote:
> Hi,
>
> dam4rus wrote on 20-10-16 09:44:
>> So, i have Windows 10 with Anniversary Update and today Windows Defender
>> quarantined soffice.bin, because it thinks it's a Trojan. Is this a known
>> issue? Should i report it as a bug? 
> yes please report it with Microsoft as their bug ;)
>
> thanks,
> Cor
>


FWIW, I have 3 instances of LibreOffice installed on W10 without problem.
Maybe this is a repeat of the old DR-DOS bug, where when Windows 3.1 was
installed on DR-DOS, it would complain about some bogus problem.  ;-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AARD_code

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found LibreOffice as malware

2016-10-20 Thread Cor Nouws 
Hi,

dam4rus wrote on 20-10-16 09:44:
> So, i have Windows 10 with Anniversary Update and today Windows Defender
> quarantined soffice.bin, because it thinks it's a Trojan. Is this a known
> issue? Should i report it as a bug? 

yes please report it with Microsoft as their bug ;)

thanks,
Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found LibreOffice as malware

2016-10-20 Thread Gilles Gravier 
Or switch to a real antivirus. :)

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:59 PM, RODRIGUEZ FONSECA JORGE ALBERTO <
jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com> wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I suggest you to unable window defender (I don't think it is a bug). Then
> download LibreOffice, install it and then activate again wd.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorge Rodriguez
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "dam4rus" <rfrostkal...@gmail.com>
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 1:44:03 AM
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found
> LibreOffice as malware
>
> So, i have Windows 10 with Anniversary Update and today Windows Defender
> quarantined soffice.bin, because it thinks it's a Trojan. Is this a known
> issue? Should i report it as a bug? I haven't found anything about this
> with
> google search.
>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found LibreOffice as malware

2016-10-20 Thread RODRIGUEZ FONSECA JORGE ALBERTO 
Hi:

I suggest you to unable window defender (I don't think it is a bug). Then 
download LibreOffice, install it and then activate again wd.

Regards,

Jorge Rodriguez

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To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 1:44:03 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found LibreOffice as 
malware

So, i have Windows 10 with Anniversary Update and today Windows Defender
quarantined soffice.bin, because it thinks it's a Trojan. Is this a known
issue? Should i report it as a bug? I haven't found anything about this with
google search.



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[libreoffice-users] Windows 10 Anniversary Update found LibreOffice as malware

2016-10-20 Thread dam4rus 
So, i have Windows 10 with Anniversary Update and today Windows Defender
quarantined soffice.bin, because it thinks it's a Trojan. Is this a known
issue? Should i report it as a bug? I haven't found anything about this with
google search.



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