Re: [libreoffice-users] Font embeding

2011-02-05 Thread Cley Faye
2011/2/5 Hane Tsukasa grasoft...@163.com

 Hi there!

 It seems to be a question which has been talked about for a long time in
 the days of Openoffice. That is, could it be possible to embed the Truetype
 fonts used in a document(esp. Writer/Impress) when we save the file?

 Personally I think it's a very practical and useful funtion. A
 fantastically formatted document could turn out to be nothing at all when it
 is opened on another machine that doesn't have certain fonts installed.

 I don't think this function may lay a finger on the issues of copyright.
 The Microsoft Office has done so in their counterpart product.

 So, could the function be implemented in future release? Many thanks.


I don't know how it's done in MS office, but this will most likely raise
issues for some fonts that are not free. Sometime, you only have a license
to use a font to produce a document, and not redistribute it; embedding it
in a document might become a big issue in this case, no ?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Font embeding

2011-02-05 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker


Le 05/02/2011 16:03, Cley Faye a écrit :

2011/2/5 Hane Tsukasagrasoft...@163.com

embedding [a copyrighted font]
in a document might become a big issue in this case, no ?



Yes, it might.

Though, LibO could allow embedding of open source fonts (only), like the 
Liberation fonts for instance. I agree with the OP on this matter.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Font embeding

2011-02-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/05/2011 10:03 AM, Cley Faye wrote:

2011/2/5 Hane Tsukasagrasoft...@163.com


Hi there!

It seems to be a question which has been talked about for a long time in
the days of Openoffice. That is, could it be possible to embed the Truetype
fonts used in a document(esp. Writer/Impress) when we save the file?

Personally I think it's a very practical and useful funtion. A
fantastically formatted document could turn out to be nothing at all when it
is opened on another machine that doesn't have certain fonts installed.

I don't think this function may lay a finger on the issues of copyright.
The Microsoft Office has done so in their counterpart product.

So, could the function be implemented in future release? Many thanks.


I don't know how it's done in MS office, but this will most likely raise
issues for some fonts that are not free. Sometime, you only have a license
to use a font to produce a document, and not redistribute it; embedding it
in a document might become a big issue in this case, no ?


Do you want to be able to have someone edit your embedded font document
or are you going to just send it to them to read and use?  The answer to the
problem depends on the usage of the document and the OS it is to be used on.

If you want to have a document used, but not edited, by the receiver of the
document then you can just print it with a PDF document printer that
embeds fonts.  For Windows,the best free PDF printer is doPDF.  For Linux
the standard Cups PDF printer system works well.

As for the need for the receiver to be able to edit it, then you have a 
problem

with font ownership.  You will need to look for fonts that will allow you to
distribute them with your document.  There are free ones out there on 
the Net
for most of the paid fonts.  Most Serif and San Serif fonts can be 
replaced by

very-near lookalikes that you can just use them instead of the paid ones and
add those fonts as an attachment to your email, or add it to the disc, 
you are
sending to the receiver of the document.  I would also look into places 
that have
lists of what fonts are installed by default on the systems OSs where 
the document
it going to be used.  You then can decide if you want to use one of 
those fonts
or their equivalent fonts that are freely available.  I have over 
100,000 fonts
in my collection that I made for a project a number of years ago.  Most 
of the
San Serif fonts are 99%+/- the same as the others except for size or 
width.  That

brings the matching down to about 50% +/- to the paid versions, like Adobe
fonts.  The specs of the Serif fonts are not a good, but you still can find
a very-near lookalike for these fonts to use them instead of the 
original paid

ones.  The only problem is the fancy artistic fonts.  They are hard to find
for free ones that look like paid ones.  The good thing is there a 100 times
more free fancy artistic fonts than there are paid ones.

SO with so many free substitute fonts out there, people seem not to be into
the legal hassle for embedding fonts in editable documents.  That is what
I understand from my research and work for a free font project that had
me find 100,000 +/- fonts that are 30 to 50 percent very similar.

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