Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-13 Thread anne-ology
   Yes, the '03 worked and I enjoyed using that for that reason;
  I can no longer use it because MSFT only allows a certain
number of computers - so when the HD died on the last one, so did my access
to '03  ???

   Obviously, MSFT knows that computers' HDs die so why is there a
limited number of times to download the program ??? -
  obviously MSFT is more greedy than caring  ;-(

   So with this new computer, I plan to ONLY use those programs which
will be transferable if and when I ever have another HD die ...
   starting over is no fun  ;-)

   Ok, I admit, I liked OO then LO for some things -
 and I liked the MSFT program for some things  ;-)



On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:44 AM, rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de wrote:

Quite a lot of interesting discussions about the possibility of looking at
 2 documents the same time.

 I was especially surprised that this very nice feature will be gone in MSO
 2013. Luckily I use LibO only thus cannot feel cheated by MS when this
 feature is gone after I purchased an expensive upgrade.

 As a reference, one can just look at MSO 2003. There I used this feature
 mainly for word documents of the same language or with different languages.
 I could scroll both documents synchronized or separately. All in one big
 but split window. I used this for many years until I switched to LibO.

 I think it doesn't need complicated programming and I also feel that it
 could be applied to all elements of LibO the same way. (Be careful I not a
 dev and don't have dev knowledge; its just my feeling.)

 If someone is interested in more details, let me know, I will fire up my
 old PC where there is still MSO 2003 installed and look at the details.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-12 Thread rost52

Quite a lot of interesting discussions about the possibility of looking at 2 
documents the same time.

I was especially surprised that this very nice feature will be gone in MSO 2013. Luckily I use LibO 
only thus cannot feel cheated by MS when this feature is gone after I purchased an expensive upgrade.


As a reference, one can just look at MSO 2003. There I used this feature mainly for word documents 
of the same language or with different languages. I could scroll both documents synchronized or 
separately. All in one big but split window. I used this for many years until I switched to LibO.


I think it doesn't need complicated programming and I also feel that it could be applied to all 
elements of LibO the same way. (Be careful I not a dev and don't have dev knowledge; its just my 
feeling.)


If someone is interested in more details, let me know, I will fire up my old PC where there is still 
MSO 2003 installed and look at the details.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  

People have discussed various different ways that tabs could be implemented in 
LibreOffice.  I would really like to see either of the main ways.  The only one 
i could understand was having each tab as a different document but there was an 
old word-processor that had something very useful for working on documents 
longer than 1 page or so.  Something like an advanced Navigation tool.  


In MS Office you can open more than one document and each one is opened inside 
the type of shell you see if you open LibreOffice without opening any document 
and just get the splash screen.  That way you can maximise the Word window and 
have 2 or more documents in any arrangement you like without having multiple 
instances of their ribbon-bar and menus taking up even more excessive screen 
real-estate.  

Regards from 

Tom :) 







 From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com
To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org 
Cc: 'anne-ology' lagin...@gmail.com; 'Jorge' jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com; 
'Tom' tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; 'Dr. R. O Stapf' reinh...@stapf-online.com; 
users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012, 3:26
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half 
horizontally?
 
Hi. I can see 2 other interpretations from Anne-ology message.
1. She wants to be able to open the file twice, to visually compare the 
instance initially (and still) on disc with the instance edited in ram.
2. She wants to be able to visually compare 2 parts (paragraphs) in the 
same document.

I used to do this many years ago on OS/2 in lotus or staroffice.
Steve
On 2012-12-11 15:41, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
 Umm, if two Text (.odt) documents have not changed dramatically, does not the

     Edit | Compare Document ...

 menu dialog provide a way of seeing how the currently open document is 
 changed from another document?

   - Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 15:39
 To: Jorge
 Cc: Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half 
 horizontally?

         I wish this were true ... using WIN [now 7], it's not  ;-(

         To be able to compare 2 versions side by side would be an asset -
 often, I've wanted to remember how something was worded ... so I have to
 close the document, open the other document then reverse the process
 because both versions cannot be open at the same time -
               I've tried minimizing one document but it closes on its own
 when the next document is opened -

         the computer is always a step ahead of me  ;-)



 On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM, jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com wrote:

 Hi:
 If I remember well...with LO you can compare two documents...and in
 Ubuntu there are some programs to do the same

 Regards,

 Jorge Rodríguez


 El vie, 07-12-2012 a las 00:21 +, Tom Davies escribió:
 Hi :)
 Side-by-side is fairly easy on Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Not sure about
 others but it's got to have originated somewhere and is probably on the
 cards elsewhere.  Not sure about synchronised scrolling though, that part
 sounds like a good item for a feature-request / bug-report.
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Report

 So, in Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7 just grab the first document's window and
 drag it to the far left as though you are dragging it off-screen.  When a
 weird shadow fills half the screen let go.  Whatever size and shape the
 windo had been it now fills half the screen.  Do the same to the 2nd
 document's window but drag it to the right.  Errr i choose left first just
 because it feels more comfortable to me.  If you try to drag it off the top
 of the screen then the window tries to maximise.

 Of course you could use Alt Tab to flick between any windows on the
 workspace you are on and that can be a good way to compare quickly.
 Most GnuLinux distros also let you flick between different work-spaces
 quickly so changes jump out at you that way too.  Windows users probably
 aren't familiar with the spinning cube (which i can never get to work).  Of
 course Ubuntu kinda lost that quick flick between workspaces in 11.04 using
 Unity (unless i'm missing a key-combo (which is highly likely))
 Regards from
 Tom :)



 From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012, 23:10
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
 half horizontally?
 This would realy be a good feature. I also miss the possibility to
 compare to documents side by side
 and synchronized scrolling. I hate to say it but this is a good feature
 of MSO. Just hope that our
 devs can add ti to LibO.


 On 2012-12-05 20:50, Gilles wrote:
 I agree. I also miss being able to split a document horizontally in
 two
 halves. It's very useful when going through a big document.





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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
That feature (the MDI interface) of Microsoft Office appears to be going, 
going, gone ... in Office 2013/365 [;).  It still exists in Office 2010 
although in my work it is more annoying than helpful.  

In the Office 2013 preview, the Windows are separate and the side-by-side 
feature is gone from Excel. Even if you are in Excel with an open document, and 
you open another, it opens in another Excel window. This makes sense for the 
ways that Windows 7 and Windows 8 operate.  It also has the Office Apps usable 
in consistent ways whether running from the Web, on a desktop, or on other 
devices.  I don't know what the considerations were, but the simplification and 
consistency are apparent.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 04:40
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half 
horizontally?

Hi :)  

People have discussed various different ways that tabs could be implemented in 
LibreOffice.  I would really like to see either of the main ways.  The only one 
i could understand was having each tab as a different document but there was an 
old word-processor that had something very useful for working on documents 
longer than 1 page or so.  Something like an advanced Navigation tool.  


In MS Office you can open more than one document and each one is opened inside 
the type of shell you see if you open LibreOffice without opening any document 
and just get the splash screen.  That way you can maximise the Word window and 
have 2 or more documents in any arrangement you like without having multiple 
instances of their ribbon-bar and menus taking up even more excessive screen 
real-estate.  

Regards from 

Tom :) 







 From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com
To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org 
Cc: 'anne-ology' lagin...@gmail.com; 'Jorge' jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com; 
'Tom' tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; 'Dr. R. O Stapf' reinh...@stapf-online.com; 
users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012, 3:26
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half 
horizontally?
 
Hi. I can see 2 other interpretations from Anne-ology message.
1. She wants to be able to open the file twice, to visually compare the 
instance initially (and still) on disc with the instance edited in ram.
2. She wants to be able to visually compare 2 parts (paragraphs) in the 
same document.

I used to do this many years ago on OS/2 in lotus or staroffice.
Steve
On 2012-12-11 15:41, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
 Umm, if two Text (.odt) documents have not changed dramatically, does not the

 Edit | Compare Document ...

 menu dialog provide a way of seeing how the currently open document is 
 changed from another document?

   - Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 15:39
 To: Jorge
 Cc: Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half 
 horizontally?

 I wish this were true ... using WIN [now 7], it's not  ;-(

 To be able to compare 2 versions side by side would be an asset -
 often, I've wanted to remember how something was worded ... so I have to
 close the document, open the other document then reverse the process
 because both versions cannot be open at the same time -
   I've tried minimizing one document but it closes on its own
 when the next document is opened -

 the computer is always a step ahead of me  ;-)



 On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM, jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com wrote:

 Hi:
 If I remember well...with LO you can compare two documents...and in
 Ubuntu there are some programs to do the same

 Regards,

 Jorge Rodríguez


 El vie, 07-12-2012 a las 00:21 +, Tom Davies escribió:
 Hi :)
 Side-by-side is fairly easy on Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Not sure about
 others but it's got to have originated somewhere and is probably on the
 cards elsewhere.  Not sure about synchronised scrolling though, that part
 sounds like a good item for a feature-request / bug-report.
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Report

 So, in Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7 just grab the first document's window and
 drag it to the far left as though you are dragging it off-screen.  When a
 weird shadow fills half the screen let go.  Whatever size and shape the
 windo had been it now fills half the screen.  Do the same to the 2nd
 document's window but drag it to the right.  Errr i choose left first just
 because it feels more comfortable to me.  If you try to drag it off the top
 of the screen then the window tries to maximise.

 Of course you could use Alt Tab to flick between any windows on the
 workspace you are on and that can be a good way to compare quickly.
 Most GnuLinux distros also let you flick between different work-spaces
 quickly so changes jump

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-11 Thread anne-ology
   Maybe you can view 2 different documents, but for me the first one
closes when I open the next one - it is listed in the 'recent' log,
but I'm unable to open more than 1 document at the same time.

   For instance, a while back I was composing a letter which I wanted
to begin  end in much the same way; I typed it out to the first person ...
it's saved,
then for the next person, I could either delete the mid-section
and type in the message to that person or copy  paste to a new document
... then delete the mid-section, ... BUT I could not keep the first letter
open and revert back and forth ... ... ...

   Maybe that's what all those ~lock files are; I delete these as they
appear, because I have no clue as to why they are appearing ...
 am I deleting the ability to view documents side-by-side  ???

   the more I learn of these machines, the stupider I feel  ;-)

   Oh, BTW, LO quit working again last night ...
 but once again after clearing the caches, turning off the
machine for the night, it's operational again this morning  ;-)

   Is it me or the machine ... I think the machine is winning ... I
think I belong in the horse 'n buggy era ... ... ... ;-)  ;-)  ;-)



On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton 
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:

If you want to compare one document with an earlier version, and you have
 both, do the following.

 Open the first document in LibreOffice Writer.

 When it is open, go to the menu above the document.

 Click Edit

 On the pull-down menu, click Compare Document ...

 A file open dialog will appear.

 Use it to open the earlier document.  Writer now has a document that shows
 the changes from one to the other.

 Scroll through the result and see how the changes to the older document
 that result in the newer one.

 You can save this as a third document if you want.  Or you can always make
 another comparison again.

 This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but it is very useful to
 know about.

  - Dennis

 Also, in working with a document, you can record changes as you do it.
  You can see the changes (show them as you type), or you can simply record
 them.  Then you can show them whenever you want, change your mind, etc.
  This is on the Edit | Changes dialog.  Turn on Edit | Changes | Record and
 the changes you make from then on are remembered and can be shown.


 From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 20:01
 To: Dennis
 Cc: Jorge; Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
 half horizontally?

well, now you've lost me  ;-)



 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton 
 dennis.hamil...@acm.org
  wrote:

 Umm, if two Text (.odt) documents have not changed dramatically, does not
  the
 
  Edit | Compare Document ...
 
  menu dialog provide a way of seeing how the currently open document is
  changed from another document?
 
   - Dennis
 
 
  From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 15:39
  To: Jorge
  Cc: Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
  half horizontally?
 
 I wish this were true ... using WIN [now 7], it's not  ;-(
 
 To be able to compare 2 versions side by side would be an asset -
  often, I've wanted to remember how something was worded ... so I have to
  close the document, open the other document then reverse the process
  because both versions cannot be open at the same time -
   I've tried minimizing one document but it closes on its own
  when the next document is opened -
 
 the computer is always a step ahead of me  ;-)
 
 
 
  On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM, jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com wrote:
 
  Hi:
  
   If I remember well...with LO you can compare two documents...and in
   Ubuntu there are some programs to do the same
  
   Regards,
  
   Jorge Rodríguez
  
  
   El vie, 07-12-2012 a las 00:21 +, Tom Davies escribió:
Hi :)
Side-by-side is fairly easy on Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Not sure about
   others but it's got to have originated somewhere and is probably on the
   cards elsewhere.  Not sure about synchronised scrolling though, that
 part
   sounds like a good item for a feature-request / bug-report.
   
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Report
   
So, in Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7 just grab the first document's window
 and
   drag it to the far left as though you are dragging it off-screen.
  When a
   weird shadow fills half the screen let go.  Whatever size and shape the
   windo had been it now fills half the screen.  Do the same to the 2nd
   document's window but drag it to the right.  Errr i choose left first
  just
   because it feels more comfortable to me.  If you try to drag it off the
  top
   of the screen

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-11 Thread anne-ology
   sounds sensible to me  :-)

   But the program I really liked was the first one I had with my first
computer - back-when-DOS -
the program has never been updated ... it allowed me to type in
one half of the screen while viewing something in the other half; in that
way, I could add quotes, poems, ... without having to close down the
document in order to open another, ... ... ...

   computing ... computing ... does not compute  ;-)



On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi :)

 People have discussed various different ways that tabs could be
 implemented in LibreOffice.  I would really like to see either of the main
 ways.  The only one i could understand was having each tab as a different
 document but there was an old word-processor that had something very useful
 for working on documents longer than 1 page or so.  Something like an
 advanced Navigation tool.


 In MS Office you can open more than one document and each one is opened
 inside the type of shell you see if you open LibreOffice without opening
 any document and just get the splash screen.  That way you can maximise the
 Word window and have 2 or more documents in any arrangement you like
 without having multiple instances of their ribbon-bar and menus taking up
 even more excessive screen real-estate.

 Regards from

 Tom :)




 
  From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com
 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org
 Cc: 'anne-ology' lagin...@gmail.com; 'Jorge' jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com;
 'Tom' tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; 'Dr. R. O Stapf' 
 reinh...@stapf-online.com; users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012, 3:26
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
 half horizontally?
 
 Hi. I can see 2 other interpretations from Anne-ology message.
 1. She wants to be able to open the file twice, to visually compare the
 instance initially (and still) on disc with the instance edited in ram.
 2. She wants to be able to visually compare 2 parts (paragraphs) in the
 same document.
 
 I used to do this many years ago on OS/2 in lotus or staroffice.
 Steve
 On 2012-12-11 15:41, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
  Umm, if two Text (.odt) documents have not changed dramatically, does
 not the
 
  Edit | Compare Document ...
 
  menu dialog provide a way of seeing how the currently open document is
 changed from another document?
 
- Dennis
 
 
  From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 15:39
  To: Jorge
  Cc: Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
 half horizontally?
 
  I wish this were true ... using WIN [now 7], it's not  ;-(
 
  To be able to compare 2 versions side by side would be an asset
 -
  often, I've wanted to remember how something was worded ... so I have to
  close the document, open the other document then reverse the process
  because both versions cannot be open at the same time -
I've tried minimizing one document but it closes on its
 own
  when the next document is opened -
 
  the computer is always a step ahead of me  ;-)
 
 
 
  On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM, jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com wrote:
 
  Hi:
  If I remember well...with LO you can compare two documents...and in
  Ubuntu there are some programs to do the same
 
  Regards,
 
  Jorge Rodríguez
 
 
  El vie, 07-12-2012 a las 00:21 +, Tom Davies escribió:
  Hi :)
  Side-by-side is fairly easy on Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Not sure about
  others but it's got to have originated somewhere and is probably on the
  cards elsewhere.  Not sure about synchronised scrolling though, that
 part
  sounds like a good item for a feature-request / bug-report.
  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Report
 
  So, in Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7 just grab the first document's window and
  drag it to the far left as though you are dragging it off-screen.
 When a
  weird shadow fills half the screen let go.  Whatever size and shape the
  windo had been it now fills half the screen.  Do the same to the 2nd
  document's window but drag it to the right.  Errr i choose left first
 just
  because it feels more comfortable to me.  If you try to drag it off
 the top
  of the screen then the window tries to maximise.
 
  Of course you could use Alt Tab to flick between any windows on the
  workspace you are on and that can be a good way to compare quickly.
  Most GnuLinux distros also let you flick between different
 work-spaces
  quickly so changes jump out at you that way too.  Windows users
 probably
  aren't familiar with the spinning cube (which i can never get to
 work).  Of
  course Ubuntu kinda lost that quick flick between workspaces in 11.04
 using
  Unity (unless i'm missing a key-combo (which is highly likely))
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
  From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-11 Thread anne-ology
   simplification is apparent  ???
  to whom  ???

   To have to close down one file in order to open another, etc. etc.
etc. rather than allowing each to remain open in their half of the screen
seems the most sensible and simplest method - it's also the way many folks
worked pre-computers - with the data spread out on the desktop - and floor
- ready at the spur of the moment.



On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton 
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:

That feature (the MDI interface) of Microsoft Office appears to be going,
 going, gone ... in Office 2013/365 [;).  It still exists in Office 2010
 although in my work it is more annoying than helpful.

 In the Office 2013 preview, the Windows are separate and the side-by-side
 feature is gone from Excel. Even if you are in Excel with an open document,
 and you open another, it opens in another Excel window. This makes sense
 for the ways that Windows 7 and Windows 8 operate.  It also has the Office
 Apps usable in consistent ways whether running from the Web, on a desktop,
 or on other devices.  I don't know what the considerations were, but the
 simplification and consistency are apparent.

  - Dennis


 From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 04:40
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
 half horizontally?

 Hi :)

 People have discussed various different ways that tabs could be
 implemented in LibreOffice.  I would really like to see either of the main
 ways.  The only one i could understand was having each tab as a different
 document but there was an old word-processor that had something very useful
 for working on documents longer than 1 page or so.  Something like an
 advanced Navigation tool.


 In MS Office you can open more than one document and each one is opened
 inside the type of shell you see if you open LibreOffice without opening
 any document and just get the splash screen.  That way you can maximise the
 Word window and have 2 or more documents in any arrangement you like
 without having multiple instances of their ribbon-bar and menus taking up
 even more excessive screen real-estate.

 Regards from

 Tom :)




 
  From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com
 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org
 Cc: 'anne-ology' lagin...@gmail.com; 'Jorge' jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com;
 'Tom' tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; 'Dr. R. O Stapf' 
 reinh...@stapf-online.com; users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012, 3:26
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
 half horizontally?
 
 Hi. I can see 2 other interpretations from Anne-ology message.
 1. She wants to be able to open the file twice, to visually compare the
 instance initially (and still) on disc with the instance edited in ram.
 2. She wants to be able to visually compare 2 parts (paragraphs) in the
 same document.
 
 I used to do this many years ago on OS/2 in lotus or staroffice.
 Steve
 On 2012-12-11 15:41, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
  Umm, if two Text (.odt) documents have not changed dramatically, does
 not the
 
  Edit | Compare Document ...
 
  menu dialog provide a way of seeing how the currently open document is
 changed from another document?
 
- Dennis
 
 
  From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 15:39
  To: Jorge
  Cc: Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
 half horizontally?
 
  I wish this were true ... using WIN [now 7], it's not  ;-(
 
  To be able to compare 2 versions side by side would be an asset
 -
  often, I've wanted to remember how something was worded ... so I have to
  close the document, open the other document then reverse the process
  because both versions cannot be open at the same time -
I've tried minimizing one document but it closes on its
 own
  when the next document is opened -
 
  the computer is always a step ahead of me  ;-)
 
 
 
  On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM, jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com wrote:
 
  Hi:
  If I remember well...with LO you can compare two documents...and in
  Ubuntu there are some programs to do the same
 
  Regards,
 
  Jorge Rodríguez
 
 
  El vie, 07-12-2012 a las 00:21 +, Tom Davies escribió:
  Hi :)
  Side-by-side is fairly easy on Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Not sure about
  others but it's got to have originated somewhere and is probably on the
  cards elsewhere.  Not sure about synchronised scrolling though, that
 part
  sounds like a good item for a feature-request / bug-report.
  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Report
 
  So, in Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7 just grab the first document's window and
  drag it to the far left as though you are dragging it off-screen.
  When a
  weird shadow fills half the screen let go.  Whatever size and shape the
  windo had been it now fills half

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The lock files should disappear when you close the document.  It's supposed to 
help prevent soemone else from editing the file at the same time as you or to 
prevent you from accidentally opening a copy of a file that you have already 
opened.  For example if you spent hours editing a document without saving it 
and then opened a copy without the editing then if you saved the 2nd copy after 
closing the first one then you would lose all your hours of editing.  


There is something seriously wrong with your machine if you can't open 2 
documents at the same time.  Hopefully it's only the User Profile of LO that is 
so stuffed-up.

I forget whether you are using Windows or GnuLinux (Ubuntu or something).  Do 
you know how much Ram your machine has and how fast the Cpu is?  On Windows 
right-click on My Computer and choose Properties at the bottom of the 
right-click menu.  The General tab should show you how much ram it thinks you 
have.

Regards from
Tom :)  







 From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
To: Dennis dennis.hamil...@acm.org 
Cc: Jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com; Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; Dr. R. O 
Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com; users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012, 19:28
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half 
horizontally?
 
       Maybe you can view 2 different documents, but for me the first one
closes when I open the next one - it is listed in the 'recent' log,
            but I'm unable to open more than 1 document at the same time.

       For instance, a while back I was composing a letter which I wanted
to begin  end in much the same way; I typed it out to the first person ...
it's saved,
            then for the next person, I could either delete the mid-section
and type in the message to that person or copy  paste to a new document
... then delete the mid-section, ... BUT I could not keep the first letter
open and revert back and forth ... ... ...

       Maybe that's what all those ~lock files are; I delete these as they
appear, because I have no clue as to why they are appearing ...
             am I deleting the ability to view documents side-by-side  ???

       the more I learn of these machines, the stupider I feel  ;-)

       Oh, BTW, LO quit working again last night ...
             but once again after clearing the caches, turning off the
machine for the night, it's operational again this morning  ;-)

       Is it me or the machine ... I think the machine is winning ... I
think I belong in the horse 'n buggy era ... ... ... ;-)  ;-)  ;-)



On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton 
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:

If you want to compare one document with an earlier version, and you have
 both, do the following.

 Open the first document in LibreOffice Writer.

 When it is open, go to the menu above the document.

 Click Edit

 On the pull-down menu, click Compare Document ...

 A file open dialog will appear.

 Use it to open the earlier document.  Writer now has a document that shows
 the changes from one to the other.

 Scroll through the result and see how the changes to the older document
 that result in the newer one.

 You can save this as a third document if you want.  Or you can always make
 another comparison again.

 This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but it is very useful to
 know about.

  - Dennis

 Also, in working with a document, you can record changes as you do it.
  You can see the changes (show them as you type), or you can simply record
 them.  Then you can show them whenever you want, change your mind, etc.
  This is on the Edit | Changes dialog.  Turn on Edit | Changes | Record and
 the changes you make from then on are remembered and can be shown.


 From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 20:01
 To: Dennis
 Cc: Jorge; Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
 half horizontally?

        well, now you've lost me  ;-)



 On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton 
 dennis.hamil...@acm.org
  wrote:

 Umm, if two Text (.odt) documents have not changed dramatically, does not
  the
 
          Edit | Compare Document ...
 
  menu dialog provide a way of seeing how the currently open document is
  changed from another document?
 
   - Dennis
 
 
  From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 15:39
  To: Jorge
  Cc: Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
  half horizontally?
 
         I wish this were true ... using WIN [now 7], it's not  ;-(
 
         To be able to compare 2 versions side by side would be an asset -
  often, I've wanted to remember how something was worded ... so I have to
  close the document, open the other document then reverse the process
  because both versions

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-10 Thread anne-ology
   I wish this were true ... using WIN [now 7], it's not  ;-(

   To be able to compare 2 versions side by side would be an asset -
often, I've wanted to remember how something was worded ... so I have to
close the document, open the other document then reverse the process
because both versions cannot be open at the same time -
 I've tried minimizing one document but it closes on its own
when the next document is opened -

   the computer is always a step ahead of me  ;-)



On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM, jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com wrote:

Hi:

 If I remember well...with LO you can compare two documents...and in
 Ubuntu there are some programs to do the same

 Regards,

 Jorge Rodríguez


 El vie, 07-12-2012 a las 00:21 +, Tom Davies escribió:
  Hi :)
  Side-by-side is fairly easy on Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Not sure about
 others but it's got to have originated somewhere and is probably on the
 cards elsewhere.  Not sure about synchronised scrolling though, that part
 sounds like a good item for a feature-request / bug-report.
 
  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Report
 
  So, in Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7 just grab the first document's window and
 drag it to the far left as though you are dragging it off-screen.  When a
 weird shadow fills half the screen let go.  Whatever size and shape the
 windo had been it now fills half the screen.  Do the same to the 2nd
 document's window but drag it to the right.  Errr i choose left first just
 because it feels more comfortable to me.  If you try to drag it off the top
 of the screen then the window tries to maximise.
 
 
  Of course you could use Alt Tab to flick between any windows on the
 workspace you are on and that can be a good way to compare quickly.
 
  Most GnuLinux distros also let you flick between different work-spaces
 quickly so changes jump out at you that way too.  Windows users probably
 aren't familiar with the spinning cube (which i can never get to work).  Of
 course Ubuntu kinda lost that quick flick between workspaces in 11.04 using
 Unity (unless i'm missing a key-combo (which is highly likely))
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
  
   From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012, 23:10
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
 half horizontally?
  
  This would realy be a good feature. I also miss the possibility to
 compare to documents side by side
  and synchronized scrolling. I hate to say it but this is a good feature
 of MSO. Just hope that our
  devs can add ti to LibO.
  
  
  On 2012-12-05 20:50, Gilles wrote:
   I agree. I also miss being able to split a document horizontally in
 two
   halves. It's very useful when going through a big document.
  


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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Umm, if two Text (.odt) documents have not changed dramatically, does not the 

Edit | Compare Document ... 

menu dialog provide a way of seeing how the currently open document is changed 
from another document? 

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 15:39
To: Jorge
Cc: Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half 
horizontally?

   I wish this were true ... using WIN [now 7], it's not  ;-(

   To be able to compare 2 versions side by side would be an asset -
often, I've wanted to remember how something was worded ... so I have to
close the document, open the other document then reverse the process
because both versions cannot be open at the same time -
 I've tried minimizing one document but it closes on its own
when the next document is opened -

   the computer is always a step ahead of me  ;-)



On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM, jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com wrote:

Hi:

 If I remember well...with LO you can compare two documents...and in
 Ubuntu there are some programs to do the same

 Regards,

 Jorge Rodríguez


 El vie, 07-12-2012 a las 00:21 +, Tom Davies escribió:
  Hi :)
  Side-by-side is fairly easy on Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Not sure about
 others but it's got to have originated somewhere and is probably on the
 cards elsewhere.  Not sure about synchronised scrolling though, that part
 sounds like a good item for a feature-request / bug-report.
 
  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Report
 
  So, in Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7 just grab the first document's window and
 drag it to the far left as though you are dragging it off-screen.  When a
 weird shadow fills half the screen let go.  Whatever size and shape the
 windo had been it now fills half the screen.  Do the same to the 2nd
 document's window but drag it to the right.  Errr i choose left first just
 because it feels more comfortable to me.  If you try to drag it off the top
 of the screen then the window tries to maximise.
 
 
  Of course you could use Alt Tab to flick between any windows on the
 workspace you are on and that can be a good way to compare quickly.
 
  Most GnuLinux distros also let you flick between different work-spaces
 quickly so changes jump out at you that way too.  Windows users probably
 aren't familiar with the spinning cube (which i can never get to work).  Of
 course Ubuntu kinda lost that quick flick between workspaces in 11.04 using
 Unity (unless i'm missing a key-combo (which is highly likely))
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
  
   From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012, 23:10
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
 half horizontally?
  
  This would realy be a good feature. I also miss the possibility to
 compare to documents side by side
  and synchronized scrolling. I hate to say it but this is a good feature
 of MSO. Just hope that our
  devs can add ti to LibO.
  
  
  On 2012-12-05 20:50, Gilles wrote:
   I agree. I also miss being able to split a document horizontally in
 two
   halves. It's very useful when going through a big document.
  


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-10 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi. I can see 2 other interpretations from Anne-ology message.
1. She wants to be able to open the file twice, to visually compare the 
instance initially (and still) on disc with the instance edited in ram.
2. She wants to be able to visually compare 2 parts (paragraphs) in the 
same document.


I used to do this many years ago on OS/2 in lotus or staroffice.
Steve
On 2012-12-11 15:41, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

Umm, if two Text (.odt) documents have not changed dramatically, does not the

Edit | Compare Document ...

menu dialog provide a way of seeing how the currently open document is changed 
from another document?

  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 15:39
To: Jorge
Cc: Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half 
horizontally?

I wish this were true ... using WIN [now 7], it's not  ;-(

To be able to compare 2 versions side by side would be an asset -
often, I've wanted to remember how something was worded ... so I have to
close the document, open the other document then reverse the process
because both versions cannot be open at the same time -
  I've tried minimizing one document but it closes on its own
when the next document is opened -

the computer is always a step ahead of me  ;-)



On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM, jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com wrote:

Hi:

If I remember well...with LO you can compare two documents...and in
Ubuntu there are some programs to do the same

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El vie, 07-12-2012 a las 00:21 +, Tom Davies escribió:

Hi :)
Side-by-side is fairly easy on Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Not sure about

others but it's got to have originated somewhere and is probably on the
cards elsewhere.  Not sure about synchronised scrolling though, that part
sounds like a good item for a feature-request / bug-report.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Report

So, in Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7 just grab the first document's window and

drag it to the far left as though you are dragging it off-screen.  When a
weird shadow fills half the screen let go.  Whatever size and shape the
windo had been it now fills half the screen.  Do the same to the 2nd
document's window but drag it to the right.  Errr i choose left first just
because it feels more comfortable to me.  If you try to drag it off the top
of the screen then the window tries to maximise.


Of course you could use Alt Tab to flick between any windows on the

workspace you are on and that can be a good way to compare quickly.

Most GnuLinux distros also let you flick between different work-spaces

quickly so changes jump out at you that way too.  Windows users probably
aren't familiar with the spinning cube (which i can never get to work).  Of
course Ubuntu kinda lost that quick flick between workspaces in 11.04 using
Unity (unless i'm missing a key-combo (which is highly likely))

Regards from
Tom :)




From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012, 23:10
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in

half horizontally?

This would realy be a good feature. I also miss the possibility to

compare to documents side by side

and synchronized scrolling. I hate to say it but this is a good feature

of MSO. Just hope that our

devs can add ti to LibO.


On 2012-12-05 20:50, Gilles wrote:

I agree. I also miss being able to split a document horizontally in

two

halves. It's very useful when going through a big document.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-10 Thread anne-ology
   well, now you've lost me  ;-)



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
 wrote:

Umm, if two Text (.odt) documents have not changed dramatically, does not
 the

 Edit | Compare Document ...

 menu dialog provide a way of seeing how the currently open document is
 changed from another document?

  - Dennis


 From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 15:39
 To: Jorge
 Cc: Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
 half horizontally?

I wish this were true ... using WIN [now 7], it's not  ;-(

To be able to compare 2 versions side by side would be an asset -
 often, I've wanted to remember how something was worded ... so I have to
 close the document, open the other document then reverse the process
 because both versions cannot be open at the same time -
  I've tried minimizing one document but it closes on its own
 when the next document is opened -

the computer is always a step ahead of me  ;-)



 On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM, jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com wrote:

 Hi:
 
  If I remember well...with LO you can compare two documents...and in
  Ubuntu there are some programs to do the same
 
  Regards,
 
  Jorge Rodríguez
 
 
  El vie, 07-12-2012 a las 00:21 +, Tom Davies escribió:
   Hi :)
   Side-by-side is fairly easy on Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Not sure about
  others but it's got to have originated somewhere and is probably on the
  cards elsewhere.  Not sure about synchronised scrolling though, that part
  sounds like a good item for a feature-request / bug-report.
  
   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Report
  
   So, in Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7 just grab the first document's window and
  drag it to the far left as though you are dragging it off-screen.  When a
  weird shadow fills half the screen let go.  Whatever size and shape the
  windo had been it now fills half the screen.  Do the same to the 2nd
  document's window but drag it to the right.  Errr i choose left first
 just
  because it feels more comfortable to me.  If you try to drag it off the
 top
  of the screen then the window tries to maximise.
  
  
   Of course you could use Alt Tab to flick between any windows on the
  workspace you are on and that can be a good way to compare quickly.
  
   Most GnuLinux distros also let you flick between different work-spaces
  quickly so changes jump out at you that way too.  Windows users probably
  aren't familiar with the spinning cube (which i can never get to work).
  Of
  course Ubuntu kinda lost that quick flick between workspaces in 11.04
 using
  Unity (unless i'm missing a key-combo (which is highly likely))
  
   Regards from
   Tom :)
  
  
  
   
From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com
   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
   Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012, 23:10
   Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
  half horizontally?
   
   This would realy be a good feature. I also miss the possibility to
  compare to documents side by side
   and synchronized scrolling. I hate to say it but this is a good
 feature
  of MSO. Just hope that our
   devs can add ti to LibO.
   
   
   On 2012-12-05 20:50, Gilles wrote:
I agree. I also miss being able to split a document horizontally in
  two
halves. It's very useful when going through a big document.
   


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-10 Thread anne-ology
   Yes, that's my idea.

   Seems sensible to me, yet the computer just doesn't seem to like my
idea  ;-)
the computer seems to have another idea - well, I guess it gets
back at me for referring to it as a 'glorified typewriter'  ;-)



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Steve Edmonds
steve.edmo...@ptglobal.comwrote:

Hi. I can see 2 other interpretations from Anne-ology message.
 1. She wants to be able to open the file twice, to visually compare the
 instance initially (and still) on disc with the instance edited in ram.
 2. She wants to be able to visually compare 2 parts (paragraphs) in the
 same document.

 I used to do this many years ago on OS/2 in lotus or staroffice.
 Steve

 On 2012-12-11 15:41, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

 Umm, if two Text (.odt) documents have not changed dramatically, does not
 the

 Edit | Compare Document ...

 menu dialog provide a way of seeing how the currently open document is
 changed from another document?

   - Dennis


 From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 15:39
 To: Jorge
 Cc: Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
 half horizontally?

 I wish this were true ... using WIN [now 7], it's not  ;-(

 To be able to compare 2 versions side by side would be an asset -
 often, I've wanted to remember how something was worded ... so I have to
 close the document, open the other document then reverse the process
 because both versions cannot be open at the same time -
   I've tried minimizing one document but it closes on its own
 when the next document is opened -

 the computer is always a step ahead of me  ;-)



 On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM, jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com wrote:

 Hi:

 If I remember well...with LO you can compare two documents...and in
 Ubuntu there are some programs to do the same

 Regards,

 Jorge Rodríguez


 El vie, 07-12-2012 a las 00:21 +, Tom Davies escribió:

 Hi :)
 Side-by-side is fairly easy on Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Not sure about

 others but it's got to have originated somewhere and is probably on the
 cards elsewhere.  Not sure about synchronised scrolling though, that part
 sounds like a good item for a feature-request / bug-report.

 http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/Bug_**Reporthttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Report

 So, in Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7 just grab the first document's window and

 drag it to the far left as though you are dragging it off-screen.  When a
 weird shadow fills half the screen let go.  Whatever size and shape the
 windo had been it now fills half the screen.  Do the same to the 2nd
 document's window but drag it to the right.  Errr i choose left first
 just
 because it feels more comfortable to me.  If you try to drag it off the
 top
 of the screen then the window tries to maximise.


 Of course you could use Alt Tab to flick between any windows on the

 workspace you are on and that can be a good way to compare quickly.

 Most GnuLinux distros also let you flick between different work-spaces

 quickly so changes jump out at you that way too.  Windows users probably
 aren't familiar with the spinning cube (which i can never get to work).
  Of
 course Ubuntu kinda lost that quick flick between workspaces in 11.04
 using
 Unity (unless i'm missing a key-combo (which is highly likely))

 Regards from
 Tom :)



  From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012, 23:10
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in

 half horizontally?

 This would realy be a good feature. I also miss the possibility to

 compare to documents side by side

 and synchronized scrolling. I hate to say it but this is a good feature

 of MSO. Just hope that our

 devs can add ti to LibO.


 On 2012-12-05 20:50, Gilles wrote:

 I agree. I also miss being able to split a document horizontally in

 two

 halves. It's very useful when going through a big document.




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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
If you want to compare one document with an earlier version, and you have both, 
do the following.

Open the first document in LibreOffice Writer.

When it is open, go to the menu above the document.

Click Edit

On the pull-down menu, click Compare Document ...

A file open dialog will appear.

Use it to open the earlier document.  Writer now has a document that shows the 
changes from one to the other.

Scroll through the result and see how the changes to the older document that 
result in the newer one.

You can save this as a third document if you want.  Or you can always make 
another comparison again.

This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but it is very useful to know 
about.

 - Dennis

Also, in working with a document, you can record changes as you do it.  You can 
see the changes (show them as you type), or you can simply record them.  Then 
you can show them whenever you want, change your mind, etc.  This is on the 
Edit | Changes dialog.  Turn on Edit | Changes | Record and the changes you 
make from then on are remembered and can be shown.  

-Original Message-
From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 20:01
To: Dennis
Cc: Jorge; Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half 
horizontally?

   well, now you've lost me  ;-)



On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
 wrote:

Umm, if two Text (.odt) documents have not changed dramatically, does not
 the

 Edit | Compare Document ...

 menu dialog provide a way of seeing how the currently open document is
 changed from another document?

  - Dennis


 From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 15:39
 To: Jorge
 Cc: Tom; Dr. R. O Stapf; users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
 half horizontally?

I wish this were true ... using WIN [now 7], it's not  ;-(

To be able to compare 2 versions side by side would be an asset -
 often, I've wanted to remember how something was worded ... so I have to
 close the document, open the other document then reverse the process
 because both versions cannot be open at the same time -
  I've tried minimizing one document but it closes on its own
 when the next document is opened -

the computer is always a step ahead of me  ;-)



 On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM, jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com wrote:

 Hi:
 
  If I remember well...with LO you can compare two documents...and in
  Ubuntu there are some programs to do the same
 
  Regards,
 
  Jorge Rodríguez
 
 
  El vie, 07-12-2012 a las 00:21 +, Tom Davies escribió:
   Hi :)
   Side-by-side is fairly easy on Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Not sure about
  others but it's got to have originated somewhere and is probably on the
  cards elsewhere.  Not sure about synchronised scrolling though, that part
  sounds like a good item for a feature-request / bug-report.
  
   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Report
  
   So, in Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7 just grab the first document's window and
  drag it to the far left as though you are dragging it off-screen.  When a
  weird shadow fills half the screen let go.  Whatever size and shape the
  windo had been it now fills half the screen.  Do the same to the 2nd
  document's window but drag it to the right.  Errr i choose left first
 just
  because it feels more comfortable to me.  If you try to drag it off the
 top
  of the screen then the window tries to maximise.
  
  
   Of course you could use Alt Tab to flick between any windows on the
  workspace you are on and that can be a good way to compare quickly.
  
   Most GnuLinux distros also let you flick between different work-spaces
  quickly so changes jump out at you that way too.  Windows users probably
  aren't familiar with the spinning cube (which i can never get to work).
  Of
  course Ubuntu kinda lost that quick flick between workspaces in 11.04
 using
  Unity (unless i'm missing a key-combo (which is highly likely))
  
   Regards from
   Tom :)
  
  
  
   
From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com
   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
   Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012, 23:10
   Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in
  half horizontally?
   
   This would realy be a good feature. I also miss the possibility to
  compare to documents side by side
   and synchronized scrolling. I hate to say it but this is a good
 feature
  of MSO. Just hope that our
   devs can add ti to LibO.
   
   
   On 2012-12-05 20:50, Gilles wrote:
I agree. I also miss being able to split a document horizontally in
  two
halves. It's very useful when going through a big document.
   


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-08 Thread jorge
Hi:

If I remember well...with LO you can compare two documents...and in
Ubuntu there are some programs to do the same

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El vie, 07-12-2012 a las 00:21 +, Tom Davies escribió:
 Hi :)
 Side-by-side is fairly easy on Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Not sure about others 
 but it's got to have originated somewhere and is probably on the cards 
 elsewhere.  Not sure about synchronised scrolling though, that part sounds 
 like a good item for a feature-request / bug-report.  
 
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Report
 
 So, in Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7 just grab the first document's window and drag 
 it to the far left as though you are dragging it off-screen.  When a weird 
 shadow fills half the screen let go.  Whatever size and shape the windo had 
 been it now fills half the screen.  Do the same to the 2nd document's window 
 but drag it to the right.  Errr i choose left first just because it feels 
 more comfortable to me.  If you try to drag it off the top of the screen then 
 the window tries to maximise.  
 
 
 Of course you could use Alt Tab to flick between any windows on the workspace 
 you are on and that can be a good way to compare quickly.  
 
 
 Most GnuLinux distros also let you flick between different work-spaces 
 quickly so changes jump out at you that way too.  Windows users probably 
 aren't familiar with the spinning cube (which i can never get to work).  Of 
 course Ubuntu kinda lost that quick flick between workspaces in 11.04 using 
 Unity (unless i'm missing a key-combo (which is highly likely))  
 
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012, 23:10
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half 
 horizontally?
  
 This would realy be a good feature. I also miss the possibility to compare 
 to documents side by side 
 and synchronized scrolling. I hate to say it but this is a good feature of 
 MSO. Just hope that our 
 devs can add ti to LibO.
 
 
 On 2012-12-05 20:50, Gilles wrote:
  I agree. I also miss being able to split a document horizontally in two
  halves. It's very useful when going through a big document.
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-06 Thread Dr. R. O Stapf
This would realy be a good feature. I also miss the possibility to compare to documents side by side 
and synchronized scrolling. I hate to say it but this is a good feature of MSO. Just hope that our 
devs can add ti to LibO.



On 2012-12-05 20:50, Gilles wrote:

I agree. I also miss being able to split a document horizontally in two
halves. It's very useful when going through a big document.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-12-06 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Side-by-side is fairly easy on Win7 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Not sure about others 
but it's got to have originated somewhere and is probably on the cards 
elsewhere.  Not sure about synchronised scrolling though, that part sounds like 
a good item for a feature-request / bug-report.  

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Report

So, in Ubuntu 12.04 and Win7 just grab the first document's window and drag it 
to the far left as though you are dragging it off-screen.  When a weird shadow 
fills half the screen let go.  Whatever size and shape the windo had been it 
now fills half the screen.  Do the same to the 2nd document's window but drag 
it to the right.  Errr i choose left first just because it feels more 
comfortable to me.  If you try to drag it off the top of the screen then the 
window tries to maximise.  


Of course you could use Alt Tab to flick between any windows on the workspace 
you are on and that can be a good way to compare quickly.  


Most GnuLinux distros also let you flick between different work-spaces quickly 
so changes jump out at you that way too.  Windows users probably aren't 
familiar with the spinning cube (which i can never get to work).  Of course 
Ubuntu kinda lost that quick flick between workspaces in 11.04 using Unity 
(unless i'm missing a key-combo (which is highly likely))  


Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012, 23:10
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half 
horizontally?
 
This would realy be a good feature. I also miss the possibility to compare to 
documents side by side 
and synchronized scrolling. I hate to say it but this is a good feature of 
MSO. Just hope that our 
devs can add ti to LibO.


On 2012-12-05 20:50, Gilles wrote:
 I agree. I also miss being able to split a document horizontally in two
 halves. It's very useful when going through a big document.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Writer] Split screen in half horizontally?

2012-06-24 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 24/06/2012 at 19:25, Gilles codecompl...@free.fr wrote:

 A table is available twice in the same
 document with a few differences. I wanted to split the screen so I could
 scroll line by line in each split screen to see the differences.

Since these are tables, can't you just copy them to Calc (spreadsheet 
application), where you will be able to split window?

Apart from that, I honestly still don't see need of that feature. But it's not 
like I could implement it anyway.
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