RE: kannel with sigtran

2019-02-11 Thread Mohammadjavad Shayesteh Nezhad [ MTNIrancell - NWG ]
Hi

For SMSC and sigtran you must have server which can run sigtran stack to handle 
SS7 standard MAP-CAP-SCCP,M3ua,.. layers

Br

From: users [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On Behalf Of Web Min
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 11:19 PM
To: eyas barhouk 
Cc: users@kannel.org
Subject: Re: kannel with sigtran

SIGTRAN (for Signaling Transport) is the standard telephony protocol used to 
transport Signaling System 7 (SS7) signals over the Internet. SS7 signals 
consist of special commands for handling a telephone call.

I don't have any idea about the Sigtran Signaling setup yet because I don't 
have Telephone Company or Operator yet.

I have experience with SMPP as I'm running over 4 years without any problem.

I canceled the mechanism of Bulk SMS Over HTTP since a long time ago.

Back to your Original question: Refer to my links in the first reply and fly.

Regards

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:21 PM eyas barhouk 
mailto:eya...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
thanks for your kind reply dear,

do you have any idea about how to start with creating the SMSC (SMPP 
signaling).

B.R
Eyas Barhok


From: Web Min mailto:meweb...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 10:03 AM
To: eyas barhouk
Cc: Davor Spasoski; users@kannel.org<mailto:users@kannel.org>
Subject: Re: kannel with sigtran

Dear Eyas,

The SS7 protocol is usually used between operator to operator but the SMPP with 
a high number of sessions can support 10M messages sure if you split the 
connections, like 10 session transmitter and 5 for push delivery status.

Regards

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:45 PM eyas barhouk 
mailto:eya...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Davor,

thanks for your kind reply.

i am already thinking about the architecture that i will use to build the SMSC.
it could be (kannel for smpp , Queue with database, and SIGTRAN PROTOCOL SUITE 
from shabed or Open SIGTRAN Project) but for now i don't know how to make it 
work or how the whole of system should work.
so i'm looking for any kind of experience with this domain.

B.R
Eyas Barhok



From: Davor Spasoski mailto:davor.spaso...@onevip.mk>>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 8:59 AM
To: eyas barhouk; users@kannel.org<mailto:users@kannel.org>
Subject: RE: kannel with sigtran


Hi Eyas,



I’m not sure if you allready went throught the architecture of and SMSC, but 
implementing one is quite an endevor with a large scope of problems (not only 
technical) that need to be solved.

Regardless of Sigtran or SS7, none of the upper layer protocols (MAP, TCAP and 
SCCP) are supported on kannel. Kannel is naturally SMS gateway helping to 
bridge tha gap betwenn the IT world and the complexities of the protocols 
listed above.

Other than http, radius, smpp, and a bunch of now more or less obsolete 
protocols I’m not aware of anything closer to the tellecommunication protocols.

Kannel is very good at what it does, but it’s not an SMSC.



SMSC typically needs SS7/Sigtran capable element that receives and sends SMS 
from wireless network users a store and forward engine with elaborate retry 
schemes and a way to resolve the routing (SRI_SM towards HLR). If you are after 
an entity that would only send application originated messages and you are 
capable of resolving the technical demands, you would still need a telecom 
operator to give you a whitelisted global title, otherwise, most of the 
operators today will simply block the traffic from your SMSC.



If you decide to pursue the challenge, try the open SS7 protocol stack and 
start from there, but you will need access to a telecom network.



Davor Spasoski



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From: users mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org>> On 
Behalf Of eyas barhouk
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 8:53 AM
To: users@kannel.org<mailto:users@kannel.org>
Subject: kannel with sigtran



Good evening dears,



i'm trying to build GSM SMSC starting from kannel, so is that's applicable and 
what other components i may need to deal with SIGTRAN signalling?



Thanks in advance

Best regards

Eyas





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Re: kannel with sigtran

2019-02-11 Thread eyas barhouk
I'm already working with kannel as smpp dear and integrated it with kamailio 
sip server and for now im trying to integrate it with the legacy ss7 network

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From: Web Min 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 9:48:40 PM
To: eyas barhouk
Cc: Davor Spasoski; users@kannel.org
Subject: Re: kannel with sigtran

SIGTRAN (for Signaling Transport) is the standard telephony protocol used to 
transport Signaling System 7 (SS7) signals over the Internet. SS7 signals 
consist of special commands for handling a telephone call.

I don't have any idea about the Sigtran Signaling setup yet because I don't 
have Telephone Company or Operator yet.

I have experience with SMPP as I'm running over 4 years without any problem.

I canceled the mechanism of Bulk SMS Over HTTP since a long time ago.

Back to your Original question: Refer to my links in the first reply and fly.

Regards

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:21 PM eyas barhouk 
mailto:eya...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
thanks for your kind reply dear,

do you have any idea about how to start with creating the SMSC (SMPP 
signaling).

B.R
Eyas Barhok


From: Web Min mailto:meweb...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 10:03 AM
To: eyas barhouk
Cc: Davor Spasoski; users@kannel.org<mailto:users@kannel.org>
Subject: Re: kannel with sigtran

Dear Eyas,

The SS7 protocol is usually used between operator to operator but the SMPP with 
a high number of sessions can support 10M messages sure if you split the 
connections, like 10 session transmitter and 5 for push delivery status.

Regards

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:45 PM eyas barhouk 
mailto:eya...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Davor,

thanks for your kind reply.

i am already thinking about the architecture that i will use to build the SMSC.
it could be (kannel for smpp , Queue with database, and SIGTRAN PROTOCOL SUITE 
from shabed or Open SIGTRAN Project) but for now i don't know how to make it 
work or how the whole of system should work.
so i'm looking for any kind of experience with this domain.

B.R
Eyas Barhok



From: Davor Spasoski mailto:davor.spaso...@onevip.mk>>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 8:59 AM
To: eyas barhouk; users@kannel.org<mailto:users@kannel.org>
Subject: RE: kannel with sigtran


Hi Eyas,



I’m not sure if you allready went throught the architecture of and SMSC, but 
implementing one is quite an endevor with a large scope of problems (not only 
technical) that need to be solved.

Regardless of Sigtran or SS7, none of the upper layer protocols (MAP, TCAP and 
SCCP) are supported on kannel. Kannel is naturally SMS gateway helping to 
bridge tha gap betwenn the IT world and the complexities of the protocols 
listed above.

Other than http, radius, smpp, and a bunch of now more or less obsolete 
protocols I’m not aware of anything closer to the tellecommunication protocols.

Kannel is very good at what it does, but it’s not an SMSC.



SMSC typically needs SS7/Sigtran capable element that receives and sends SMS 
from wireless network users a store and forward engine with elaborate retry 
schemes and a way to resolve the routing (SRI_SM towards HLR). If you are after 
an entity that would only send application originated messages and you are 
capable of resolving the technical demands, you would still need a telecom 
operator to give you a whitelisted global title, otherwise, most of the 
operators today will simply block the traffic from your SMSC.



If you decide to pursue the challenge, try the open SS7 protocol stack and 
start from there, but you will need access to a telecom network.



Davor Spasoski



From: users mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org>> On 
Behalf Of eyas barhouk
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 8:53 AM
To: users@kannel.org<mailto:users@kannel.org>
Subject: kannel with sigtran



Good evening dears,



i'm trying to build GSM SMSC starting from kannel, so is that's applicable and 
what other components i may need to deal with SIGTRAN signalling?



Thanks in advance

Best regards

Eyas





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Re: kannel with sigtran

2019-02-11 Thread Web Min
SIGTRAN (for Signaling Transport) is the standard telephony protocol used
to transport Signaling System 7 (SS7) signals over the Internet. SS7
signals consist of special commands for handling a telephone call.

I don't have any idea about the Sigtran Signaling setup yet because I don't
have Telephone Company or Operator yet.

I have experience with SMPP as I'm running over 4 years without any problem.

I canceled the mechanism of Bulk SMS Over HTTP since a long time ago.

Back to your Original question: Refer to my links in the first reply and
fly.

Regards

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:21 PM eyas barhouk  wrote:

> thanks for your kind reply dear,
>
> do you have any idea about how to start with creating the SMSC
> (SMPP signaling).
>
> B.R
> Eyas Barhok
>
> --
> *From:* Web Min 
> *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2019 10:03 AM
> *To:* eyas barhouk
> *Cc:* Davor Spasoski; users@kannel.org
> *Subject:* Re: kannel with sigtran
>
> Dear Eyas,
>
> The SS7 protocol is usually used between operator to operator but the SMPP
> with a high number of sessions can support 10M messages sure if you split
> the connections, like 10 session transmitter and 5 for push delivery status.
>
> Regards
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:45 PM eyas barhouk  wrote:
>
> Dear Davor,
>
> thanks for your kind reply.
>
> i am already thinking about the architecture that i will use to build the
> SMSC.
> it could be (kannel for smpp , Queue with database, and SIGTRAN PROTOCOL
> SUITE from shabed or Open SIGTRAN Project) but for now i don't know how to
> make it work or how the whole of system should work.
> so i'm looking for any kind of experience with this domain.
>
> B.R
> Eyas Barhok
>
>
> --
> *From:* Davor Spasoski 
> *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2019 8:59 AM
> *To:* eyas barhouk; users@kannel.org
> *Subject:* RE: kannel with sigtran
>
>
> Hi Eyas,
>
>
>
> I’m not sure if you allready went throught the architecture of and SMSC,
> but implementing one is quite an endevor with a large scope of problems
> (not only technical) that need to be solved.
>
> Regardless of Sigtran or SS7, none of the upper layer protocols (MAP, TCAP
> and SCCP) are supported on kannel. Kannel is naturally SMS gateway helping
> to bridge tha gap betwenn the IT world and the complexities of the
> protocols listed above.
>
> Other than http, radius, smpp, and a bunch of now more or less obsolete
> protocols I’m not aware of anything closer to the tellecommunication
> protocols.
>
> Kannel is very good at what it does, but it’s not an SMSC.
>
>
>
> SMSC typically needs SS7/Sigtran capable element that receives and sends
> SMS from wireless network users a store and forward engine with elaborate
> retry schemes and a way to resolve the routing (SRI_SM towards HLR). If you
> are after an entity that would only send application originated messages
> and you are capable of resolving the technical demands, you would still
> need a telecom operator to give you a whitelisted global title, otherwise,
> most of the operators today will simply block the traffic from your SMSC.
>
>
>
> If you decide to pursue the challenge, try the open SS7 protocol stack and
> start from there, but you will need access to a telecom network.
>
>
>
> *Davor Spasoski*
>
>
>
> *From:* users  *On Behalf Of *eyas barhouk
> *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2019 8:53 AM
> *To:* users@kannel.org
> *Subject:* kannel with sigtran
>
>
>
> Good evening dears,
>
>
>
> i'm trying to build GSM SMSC starting from kannel, so is that's applicable
> and what other components i may need to deal with SIGTRAN signalling?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Best regards
>
> Eyas
>
>
>
> --
>
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Re: kannel with sigtran

2019-02-11 Thread eyas barhouk
thanks for your kind reply dear,

do you have any idea about how to start with creating the SMSC (SMPP 
signaling).

B.R
Eyas Barhok


From: Web Min 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 10:03 AM
To: eyas barhouk
Cc: Davor Spasoski; users@kannel.org
Subject: Re: kannel with sigtran

Dear Eyas,

The SS7 protocol is usually used between operator to operator but the SMPP with 
a high number of sessions can support 10M messages sure if you split the 
connections, like 10 session transmitter and 5 for push delivery status.

Regards

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:45 PM eyas barhouk 
mailto:eya...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Davor,

thanks for your kind reply.

i am already thinking about the architecture that i will use to build the SMSC.
it could be (kannel for smpp , Queue with database, and SIGTRAN PROTOCOL SUITE 
from shabed or Open SIGTRAN Project) but for now i don't know how to make it 
work or how the whole of system should work.
so i'm looking for any kind of experience with this domain.

B.R
Eyas Barhok



From: Davor Spasoski mailto:davor.spaso...@onevip.mk>>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 8:59 AM
To: eyas barhouk; users@kannel.org<mailto:users@kannel.org>
Subject: RE: kannel with sigtran


Hi Eyas,



I’m not sure if you allready went throught the architecture of and SMSC, but 
implementing one is quite an endevor with a large scope of problems (not only 
technical) that need to be solved.

Regardless of Sigtran or SS7, none of the upper layer protocols (MAP, TCAP and 
SCCP) are supported on kannel. Kannel is naturally SMS gateway helping to 
bridge tha gap betwenn the IT world and the complexities of the protocols 
listed above.

Other than http, radius, smpp, and a bunch of now more or less obsolete 
protocols I’m not aware of anything closer to the tellecommunication protocols.

Kannel is very good at what it does, but it’s not an SMSC.



SMSC typically needs SS7/Sigtran capable element that receives and sends SMS 
from wireless network users a store and forward engine with elaborate retry 
schemes and a way to resolve the routing (SRI_SM towards HLR). If you are after 
an entity that would only send application originated messages and you are 
capable of resolving the technical demands, you would still need a telecom 
operator to give you a whitelisted global title, otherwise, most of the 
operators today will simply block the traffic from your SMSC.



If you decide to pursue the challenge, try the open SS7 protocol stack and 
start from there, but you will need access to a telecom network.



Davor Spasoski



From: users mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org>> On 
Behalf Of eyas barhouk
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 8:53 AM
To: users@kannel.org<mailto:users@kannel.org>
Subject: kannel with sigtran



Good evening dears,



i'm trying to build GSM SMSC starting from kannel, so is that's applicable and 
what other components i may need to deal with SIGTRAN signalling?



Thanks in advance

Best regards

Eyas





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Оваа електронска порака (вклучувајќи ги и прилозите) е доверлива и може да биде 
заштитена со правни привилегии. Доколку не сте лицето на кое таа му е наменета 
пораката, не треба да ја копирате, дистрибуирате или да ја откривате нејзината 
содржина, туку веднаш да ја препратите до испраќачот и да ја избришете 
оригиналната порака и сите нејзини копии од Вашиот компјутерски систем. Секое 
неовластено користење на оваа порака во целост или делови од истата е строго 
забрането. Ве молиме да забележите дека електронските пораки се подложни на 
промени. оне.Вип ДООЕЛ Скопје не презема одговорност за несоодветно или 
нецелосно пренесување на информациите содржани во оваа комуникација, ниту пак 
за било какво задоцнување на приемот или оштетувања на вашиот систем.
Ве молиме не ја печатете оваа порака освен ако не е неопходно! Зачувајте ја 
природата!


Re: kannel with sigtran

2019-02-11 Thread Web Min
Dear Eyas,

The SS7 protocol is usually used between operator to operator but the SMPP
with a high number of sessions can support 10M messages sure if you split
the connections, like 10 session transmitter and 5 for push delivery status.

Regards

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:45 PM eyas barhouk  wrote:

> Dear Davor,
>
> thanks for your kind reply.
>
> i am already thinking about the architecture that i will use to build the
> SMSC.
> it could be (kannel for smpp , Queue with database, and SIGTRAN PROTOCOL
> SUITE from shabed or Open SIGTRAN Project) but for now i don't know how to
> make it work or how the whole of system should work.
> so i'm looking for any kind of experience with this domain.
>
> B.R
> Eyas Barhok
>
>
> --
> *From:* Davor Spasoski 
> *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2019 8:59 AM
> *To:* eyas barhouk; users@kannel.org
> *Subject:* RE: kannel with sigtran
>
>
> Hi Eyas,
>
>
>
> I’m not sure if you allready went throught the architecture of and SMSC,
> but implementing one is quite an endevor with a large scope of problems
> (not only technical) that need to be solved.
>
> Regardless of Sigtran or SS7, none of the upper layer protocols (MAP, TCAP
> and SCCP) are supported on kannel. Kannel is naturally SMS gateway helping
> to bridge tha gap betwenn the IT world and the complexities of the
> protocols listed above.
>
> Other than http, radius, smpp, and a bunch of now more or less obsolete
> protocols I’m not aware of anything closer to the tellecommunication
> protocols.
>
> Kannel is very good at what it does, but it’s not an SMSC.
>
>
>
> SMSC typically needs SS7/Sigtran capable element that receives and sends
> SMS from wireless network users a store and forward engine with elaborate
> retry schemes and a way to resolve the routing (SRI_SM towards HLR). If you
> are after an entity that would only send application originated messages
> and you are capable of resolving the technical demands, you would still
> need a telecom operator to give you a whitelisted global title, otherwise,
> most of the operators today will simply block the traffic from your SMSC.
>
>
>
> If you decide to pursue the challenge, try the open SS7 protocol stack and
> start from there, but you will need access to a telecom network.
>
>
>
> *Davor Spasoski*
>
>
>
> *From:* users  *On Behalf Of *eyas barhouk
> *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2019 8:53 AM
> *To:* users@kannel.org
> *Subject:* kannel with sigtran
>
>
>
> Good evening dears,
>
>
>
> i'm trying to build GSM SMSC starting from kannel, so is that's applicable
> and what other components i may need to deal with SIGTRAN signalling?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Best regards
>
> Eyas
>
>
>
> --
>
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> This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be
> protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you
> should not copy it, re-transmit it, use it or disclose its contents, but
> should return it to the sender immediately and delete your copy from your
> system. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this message in whole or
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> change. one.Vip DOOEL Skopje shall not be liable for the improper or
> incomplete transmission of the information contained in this communication
> nor for any delay in its receipt or damage to your system.
> Please, do not print this e-mail unless it is necessary! Think about
> saving the environment!
>
> Напомена: оне.Вип ДООЕЛ Скопје
> Оваа електронска порака (вклучувајќи ги и прилозите) е доверлива и може да
> биде заштитена со правни привилегии. Доколку не сте лицето на кое таа му е
> наменета пораката, не треба да ја копирате, дистрибуирате или да ја
> откривате нејзината содржина, туку веднаш да ја препратите до испраќачот и
> да ја избришете оригиналната порака и сите нејзини копии од Вашиот
> компјутерски систем. Секое неовластено користење на оваа порака во целост
> или делови од истата е строго забрането. Ве молиме да забележите дека
> електронските пораки се подложни на промени. оне.Вип ДООЕЛ Скопје не
> презема одговорност за несоодветно или нецелосно пренесување на
> информациите содржани во оваа комуникација, ниту пак за било какво
> задоцнување на приемот или оштетувања на вашиот систем.
> Ве молиме не ја печатете оваа порака освен ако не е неопходно! Зачувајте
> ја природата!
>


RE: kannel with sigtran

2019-02-11 Thread Davor Spasoski
I would start the long and winding road with a high level overview book such as 
Mobile Meassaging Technologies by Gwenael le Bodic or something more serious 
and then dig in the docs of the SMS governing bodies, ETSI, 3GPP, IETF having 
all the spcifics of the service.
Yes, you can use kannel as SMPP server (opensmppbox)

Davor Spasoski
From: eyas barhouk 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 10:44 AM
To: Davor Spasoski ; users@kannel.org
Subject: Re: kannel with sigtran

Dear Davor,

thanks for your kind reply.

i am already thinking about the architecture that i will use to build the SMSC.
it could be (kannel for smpp , Queue with database, and SIGTRAN PROTOCOL SUITE 
from shabed or Open SIGTRAN Project) but for now i don't know how to make it 
work or how the whole of system should work.
so i'm looking for any kind of experience with this domain.

B.R
Eyas Barhok



From: Davor Spasoski mailto:davor.spaso...@onevip.mk>>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 8:59 AM
To: eyas barhouk; users@kannel.org<mailto:users@kannel.org>
Subject: RE: kannel with sigtran


Hi Eyas,



I’m not sure if you allready went throught the architecture of and SMSC, but 
implementing one is quite an endevor with a large scope of problems (not only 
technical) that need to be solved.

Regardless of Sigtran or SS7, none of the upper layer protocols (MAP, TCAP and 
SCCP) are supported on kannel. Kannel is naturally SMS gateway helping to 
bridge tha gap betwenn the IT world and the complexities of the protocols 
listed above.

Other than http, radius, smpp, and a bunch of now more or less obsolete 
protocols I’m not aware of anything closer to the tellecommunication protocols.

Kannel is very good at what it does, but it’s not an SMSC.



SMSC typically needs SS7/Sigtran capable element that receives and sends SMS 
from wireless network users a store and forward engine with elaborate retry 
schemes and a way to resolve the routing (SRI_SM towards HLR). If you are after 
an entity that would only send application originated messages and you are 
capable of resolving the technical demands, you would still need a telecom 
operator to give you a whitelisted global title, otherwise, most of the 
operators today will simply block the traffic from your SMSC.



If you decide to pursue the challenge, try the open SS7 protocol stack and 
start from there, but you will need access to a telecom network.



Davor Spasoski



From: users mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org>> On 
Behalf Of eyas barhouk
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 8:53 AM
To: users@kannel.org<mailto:users@kannel.org>
Subject: kannel with sigtran



Good evening dears,



i'm trying to build GSM SMSC starting from kannel, so is that's applicable and 
what other components i may need to deal with SIGTRAN signalling?



Thanks in advance

Best regards

Eyas





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Re: kannel with sigtran

2019-02-11 Thread eyas barhouk
Dear Davor,

thanks for your kind reply.

i am already thinking about the architecture that i will use to build the SMSC.
it could be (kannel for smpp , Queue with database, and SIGTRAN PROTOCOL SUITE 
from shabed or Open SIGTRAN Project) but for now i don't know how to make it 
work or how the whole of system should work.
so i'm looking for any kind of experience with this domain.

B.R
Eyas Barhok



From: Davor Spasoski 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 8:59 AM
To: eyas barhouk; users@kannel.org
Subject: RE: kannel with sigtran


Hi Eyas,



I’m not sure if you allready went throught the architecture of and SMSC, but 
implementing one is quite an endevor with a large scope of problems (not only 
technical) that need to be solved.

Regardless of Sigtran or SS7, none of the upper layer protocols (MAP, TCAP and 
SCCP) are supported on kannel. Kannel is naturally SMS gateway helping to 
bridge tha gap betwenn the IT world and the complexities of the protocols 
listed above.

Other than http, radius, smpp, and a bunch of now more or less obsolete 
protocols I’m not aware of anything closer to the tellecommunication protocols.

Kannel is very good at what it does, but it’s not an SMSC.



SMSC typically needs SS7/Sigtran capable element that receives and sends SMS 
from wireless network users a store and forward engine with elaborate retry 
schemes and a way to resolve the routing (SRI_SM towards HLR). If you are after 
an entity that would only send application originated messages and you are 
capable of resolving the technical demands, you would still need a telecom 
operator to give you a whitelisted global title, otherwise, most of the 
operators today will simply block the traffic from your SMSC.



If you decide to pursue the challenge, try the open SS7 protocol stack and 
start from there, but you will need access to a telecom network.



Davor Spasoski



From: users  On Behalf Of eyas barhouk
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 8:53 AM
To: users@kannel.org
Subject: kannel with sigtran



Good evening dears,



i'm trying to build GSM SMSC starting from kannel, so is that's applicable and 
what other components i may need to deal with SIGTRAN signalling?



Thanks in advance

Best regards

Eyas





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RE: kannel with sigtran

2019-02-11 Thread Davor Spasoski
Hi Eyas,

I'm not sure if you allready went throught the architecture of and SMSC, but 
implementing one is quite an endevor with a large scope of problems (not only 
technical) that need to be solved.
Regardless of Sigtran or SS7, none of the upper layer protocols (MAP, TCAP and 
SCCP) are supported on kannel. Kannel is naturally SMS gateway helping to 
bridge tha gap betwenn the IT world and the complexities of the protocols 
listed above.
Other than http, radius, smpp, and a bunch of now more or less obsolete 
protocols I'm not aware of anything closer to the tellecommunication protocols.
Kannel is very good at what it does, but it's not an SMSC.

SMSC typically needs SS7/Sigtran capable element that receives and sends SMS 
from wireless network users a store and forward engine with elaborate retry 
schemes and a way to resolve the routing (SRI_SM towards HLR). If you are after 
an entity that would only send application originated messages and you are 
capable of resolving the technical demands, you would still need a telecom 
operator to give you a whitelisted global title, otherwise, most of the 
operators today will simply block the traffic from your SMSC.

If you decide to pursue the challenge, try the open SS7 protocol stack and 
start from there, but you will need access to a telecom network.

Davor Spasoski

From: users  On Behalf Of eyas barhouk
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 8:53 AM
To: users@kannel.org
Subject: kannel with sigtran

Good evening dears,

i'm trying to build GSM SMSC starting from kannel, so is that's applicable and 
what other components i may need to deal with SIGTRAN signalling?

Thanks in advance
Best regards
Eyas




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Re: kannel with sigtran

2019-02-11 Thread Web Min
Hello,

You can always start with Kannel via

https://medium.com/@SudeepParajuli/quickstart-with-kannel-7005684bffb9

https://kannel.org/download/1.5.0/userguide-1.5.0/userguide.html

https://mahtabrasheed.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/how-to-installconfigure-kannelsms-gateway-for-sending-sms-from-your-computer/

Best Regards

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:54 AM eyas barhouk  wrote:

> Good evening dears,
>
> i'm trying to build GSM SMSC starting from kannel, so is that's applicable
> and what other components i may need to deal with SIGTRAN signalling?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Best regards
> Eyas
>
>