Re: [389-users] Greedy PAM

2010-10-19 Thread Gerrard Geldenhuis

From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] on behalf of Daniel Maher 
[dma+389us...@witbe.net]
Sent: 15 October 2010 16:12
To: 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: [389-users] Greedy PAM

On 10/15/2010 04:57 PM, Gerrard Geldenhuis wrote:

 Is there a way to dynamically have search basis when queries for certain 
 data is done.

Yes.

 How do you configure clients to be more selective when doing searches 
 against a ldap directory.

It depends entirely on the software doing the query.  Here's an example
from one of my Apache HTTPd configs :

AuthLDAPURL
ldap://server/ou=People,dc=franceix,dc=net?uid??(|(gidNumber=1)(gidNumber=11000))

Thanks, I have addded the following filters for PAM in /etc/ldap.conf

nss_base_passwd ou=people,dc=mycompany?sub
nss_base_group  ou=Groups,dc=mycompany?sub
nss_base_group  ou=PrivateGroups,dc=mycompany?sub
nss_base_group  ou=SystemGroups,dc=mycompany?sub

It works kind of but what I don't understand is that when a client 
authenticates against the directory server I see a ldapsearch request in 
wireshark for every single user. I am not sure if this a misconfiguration on my 
side or if PAM_LDAP is being greedy/lazy/buggy or where else the problem lies. 
I see a succesfull result for every ldap search request in LDAP so I am not 
sure why every user would need to be queried if only one user needs to 
authenticate. 


We use a seperate user to speak to the Directory specified in /etc/ldap.conf. I 
am not sure if that would make a difference.

binddn  uid=SysAuth,ou=Service Accounts,dc=mycompany

Any thoughts would be appreciated and suggestions for a nice tool to analyze 
LDAP conversations would be much appreciated. I am playing with dsniff and 
netsniff-ng. 

Best Regards


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Re: [389-users] Safeguarding against to many established connections

2010-10-19 Thread Daniel Maher
On 10/19/2010 12:11 PM, Gerrard Geldenhuis wrote:
 Hi
 We have recently seen an issue were a single client opened up more than 800 
 established connections to our directory server. The client did have the 
 proper settings configured and should have closed connections but it did'nt. 
 Is there a way to limit the amount of connections per client or close 
 connections from the server side after a certain period? Without just making 
 the amount of connections ridicuosly high on the directory server how can you 
 safeguard against rogue clients.

 Our client setting is as follows:
 idle_timelimit  5
 timelimit   10
 bind_timelimit  5

 We were unable to log into client and it had file system issues so we could 
 not do any further analyses there.

 I suspect that solutions to this problem probably falls outside of what can 
 be configured in 389?

While it's not a 389-specific suggestion, iptables could easily solve 
this problem for you across the board. :)


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Re: [389-users] Safeguarding against to many established connections

2010-10-19 Thread Angel Bosch Mora
- Missatge original -
 On 10/19/2010 12:11 PM, Gerrard Geldenhuis wrote:
  Hi We have recently seen an issue were a single client opened up
  more than 800 established connections to our directory server. The
  client did have the proper settings configured and should have
  closed connections but it did'nt. Is there a way to limit the amount
  of connections per client or close connections from the server side
  after a certain period? Without just making the amount of
  connections ridicuosly high on the directory server how can you
  safeguard against rogue clients.
 
  Our client setting is as follows:
  idle_timelimit 5
  timelimit 10
  bind_timelimit 5
 
  We were unable to log into client and it had file system issues so
  we could not do any further analyses there.
 
  I suspect that solutions to this problem probably falls outside of
  what can be configured in 389?
 
 While it's not a 389-specific suggestion, iptables could easily solve
 this problem for you across the board. :)
 

there's also a setting to close idle connections after X seconds. is somewhere 
in the 389 console, i can't remember now exactly.


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Re: [389-users] Safeguarding against to many established connections

2010-10-19 Thread Gerrard Geldenhuis

From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] on behalf of Angel Bosch Mora 
[angbo...@conselldemallorca.net]
Sent: 19 October 2010 11:28
To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
Subject: Re: [389-users] Safeguarding against to many established connections

- Missatge original -
 On 10/19/2010 12:11 PM, Gerrard Geldenhuis wrote:
  Hi We have recently seen an issue were a single client opened up
  more than 800 established connections to our directory server. The
  client did have the proper settings configured and should have
  closed connections but it did'nt. Is there a way to limit the amount
  of connections per client or close connections from the server side
  after a certain period? Without just making the amount of
  connections ridicuosly high on the directory server how can you
  safeguard against rogue clients.
 
  Our client setting is as follows:
  idle_timelimit 5
  timelimit 10
  bind_timelimit 5
 
  We were unable to log into client and it had file system issues so
  we could not do any further analyses there.
 
  I suspect that solutions to this problem probably falls outside of
v  what can be configured in 389?

 While it's not a 389-specific suggestion, iptables could easily solve
 this problem for you across the board. :)


there's also a setting to close idle connections after X seconds. is somewhere 
in the 389 console, i can't remember now exactly.


Thanks! I little bit more searching have revealed the following settings which 
I would like to try:

3.1.1.85. nsslapd-outbound-ldap-io-timeout
This attribute limits the I/O wait time for all outbound LDAP connections. The 
default is 30 milliseconds (5 minutes). A value of 0 means that the server 
does not impose a limit on I/O wait time.

4.5.2.8. nsConnectionLife
This attribute specifies connection lifetime. Connections between the database 
link and the remote server can be kept open for an unspecified time or closed 
after a specific period of time. It is faster to keep the connections open, but 
it uses more resources. When the value is 0 and a list of failover servers is 
provided in the nsFarmServerURL attribute, the main server is never contacted 
after failover to the alternate server.

4.5.2.9. nsOperationConnectionsLimit
This attribute shows the maximum number of LDAP connections the database link 
establishes with the remote server.


What is not perfectly clear to me though is does this apply to all connections 
other masters, consumers and clients?

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Re: [389-users] Safeguarding against to many established connections

2010-10-19 Thread Gerrard Geldenhuis

From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] on behalf of Daniel Maher 
[dma+389us...@witbe.net]
Sent: 19 October 2010 11:16
To: 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: [389-users] Safeguarding against to many established connections

On 10/19/2010 12:11 PM, Gerrard Geldenhuis wrote:
 Hi
 We have recently seen an issue were a single client opened up more than 800 
 established connections to our directory server. The client did have the 
 proper settings configured and should have closed connections but it 
 did'nt. Is there a way to limit the amount of connections per client or 
 close connections from the server side after a certain period? Without just 
 making the amount of connections ridicuosly high on the directory server 
 how can you safeguard against rogue clients.

 Our client setting is as follows:
 idle_timelimit  5
 timelimit   10
 bind_timelimit  5

 We were unable to log into client and it had file system issues so we could 
 not do any further analyses there.

 I suspect that solutions to this problem probably falls outside of what can 
 be configured in 389?

While it's not a 389-specific suggestion, iptables could easily solve
this problem for you across the board. :)


I would be keen on such a solution but from a company point of view it is 
non-standard so I would need to do a bit of convincing and/arm twisting.

Regards


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Re: [389-users] Safeguarding against to many established connections

2010-10-19 Thread Andrey Ivanov
Hi,

you may be interested in the following threads with some solutions :

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/389-users/2010-September/012149.html
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/389-users/2009-February/009062.html

@+

2010/10/19 Gerrard Geldenhuis gerrard.geldenh...@betfair.com

 
  I suspect that solutions to this problem probably falls outside of what
 can be configured in 389?
 
 While it's not a 389-specific suggestion, iptables could easily solve
 this problem for you across the board. :)

 Do you have thoughts on criteria for iptables... how do you differentiate
 between 800 healthy connections and 800 duff ones if both have an
 ESTABLISHED state? Do you just assume it will never be that much and limit
 accordingly or do you do time limit to say that connections should never be
 maintained longer than x minutes and require clients to re-establish
 connections?

 Regards


 
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[389-users] difficulties upgrading from 1.2.5 to 1.2.6.1-2

2010-10-19 Thread Barry Sitompul
Hi Guys,


I'm having problems upgrading from 1.2.5

Here's what I did:

# yum upgrade 389-ds-base

-runs fine

# setup-ds-admin.pl -u

-error encountered:
The server 'ldap://myldapserver.com:389/o=NetscapeRoot' is not  
reachable.  Error: unknown error
It turns out that the 389-DS is not running because of these errors in  
its error log:
 389-Directory/1.2.6.1 B2010.272.2313
 myldapserver.com:389 (/etc/dirsrv/slapd-myldapserver)

[20/Oct/2010:14:35:41 +1000] - 389-Directory/1.2.6.1 B2010.272.2313  
starting up
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Detected Disorderly Shutdown last time  
Directory Server was running, recovering
  database.
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - nsslapd-subtree-rename-switch is on,  
while the instance userRoot is in the DN format. Please run dn2rdn to  
convert the database format.
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - nsslapd-subtree-rename-switch is on,  
while the instance Root1 is in the DN format. Please run dn2rdn to  
convert the database format.
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - nsslapd-subtree-rename-switch is on,  
while the instance Root2 is in the DN format. Please run dn2rdn to  
convert the database format.
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - nsslapd-subtree-rename-switch is on,  
while the instance Root3 is in the DN format. Please run dn2rdn to  
convert the database format.
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - nsslapd-subtree-rename-switch is on,  
while the instance NetscapeRoot is in the DN format. Please run dn2rdn  
to convert the database format.
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - nsslapd-subtree-rename-switch is on,  
while the instance Root4 is in the DN format. Please run dn2rdn to  
convert the database format.
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - start: Failed to start databases,  
err=-1 Unknown error: -1
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Failed to start database plugin ldbm  
database
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - WARNING: ldbm instance userRoot already  
exists
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - WARNING: ldbm instance Root1 already  
exists
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - WARNING: ldbm instance Root2 already  
exists
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - WARNING: ldbm instance Root3 already  
exists
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - WARNING: ldbm instance NetscapeRoot  
already exists
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - WARNING: ldbm instance Root4 already  
exists
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] binder-based resource limits -  
nsLookThroughLimit: parameter error (slapi_reslimit_register() already  
registered)
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - start: Resource limit registration failed
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Failed to start database plugin ldbm  
database
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: Failed to resolve plugin  
dependencies
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: preoperation plugin 7-bit check  
is not started
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: accesscontrol plugin ACL Plugin  
is not started
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: preoperation plugin ACL  
preoperation is not started
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: object plugin Class of Service  
is not started
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: preoperation plugin deref is not  
started
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: preoperation plugin HTTP Client  
is not started
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: database plugin ldbm database is  
not started
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: object plugin Legacy Replication  
Plugin is not started
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: preoperation plugin Linked  
Attributes is not started
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: object plugin Multimaster  
Replication Plugin is not started
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: object plugin Roles Plugin is  
not started
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: preoperation plugin Simple  
Kerberos 5 Auth is not started
[20/Oct/2010:14:35:42 +1000] - Error: object plugin Views is not started

- I wanted to do the dn2rdn or just switch off the subtree-rename- 
switch, so...

- I looked at the instance's dse.ldif and I can't find the:
dn: cn=config,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config
[...]
nsslapd-subtree-rename-switch: on
- But nsslapd-subtree-rename-switch exists is in this file:  /usr/ 
share/dirsrv/data/template-dse.ldif. I tried changing the value to  
'off' but I still got the same errors.

- I also can't find the the dn2rdn tool in the slapd instance  
directory. I did a locate and only found it here: /usr/share/dirsrv/ 
script-templates/template-dn2rdn

-So I got really confused and thought maybe I should do this:
# setup-ds.pl -u -d

= 
= 
= 
= 
= 
= 

This program will update the 389 Directory Server.

It is recommended that you have root privilege to perform the update.
Tips for using this  program:
   - Press Enter to choose the default and go to the next screen
   - Type Control-B or the word back then Enter to go back to  
the previous screen
   - Type Control-C to cancel the update

Would you like to continue with update? [yes]:

= 
= 
= 

Developing a Command-line course for technical users

2010-10-19 Thread Renich Bon Ciric
Hello,

I've just started to develop a technical user introduction to Linux
and, specifically, to Fedora and it's mysterious ways ;)

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Renich/Course/Introduction_to_GNU_and_Linux#Introduction

Please, contribute if you feel like it. It just aims to get developers
to know the distro faster and better so they can work with it and not
against it; which is the case with other distro pros that come to
Fedora.

This is just a lone effort. I'll be translating this to Spanish too
so, if anyone out there interested in any of this, please, drop a line
and use the discussion section! ;)

I'm open to suggestions.

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Re: F13: PackageKit now replaced with KPackageKit?

2010-10-19 Thread Richard Hughes
On 18 October 2010 19:48, Dan Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote:
  Since last week, I was using PackageKit updates
 until I noticed PackageKit became KPackageKit
 by surprise.

Well, PackageKit is the daemon that actually does all the processing.
What I think you mean is that KPackageKit (the KDE frontend for
package management) replaced gnome-packagekit (the GNOME frontend).

That shouldn't happen, and I'm hoping it wasn't due to an automatic
update or I'll be having angry words with the kpackagekit guys.

Try doing:

yum remove kpackagekit
yum install gnome-packagekit

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Cannot mount JFS partitions in Fedora 13 install

2010-10-19 Thread Dotan Cohen
I am installing Fedora 13 on a Dell laptop that currently has Kubuntu
installed. I keep /home on a separate partition, but the Fedora
installer will not let me set it as a mount point unless I format it.
Why? How can I get around this now,at install time?

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Installing Openshot video editor

2010-10-19 Thread orschiro
Hi guys,

I'd like to install openshot. As it is not available in any repo I
picked the rpm package from here.

http://killobyte.com/openshot/

Unfortunately it needs python2.6, giving me the following error:

mlt-python-0.5.4-1.fc14.x86_64 requires python(abi) = 2.6
openshot-1.2.2-1.fc13.noarch requires python(abi) = 2.6

I'm using f14 so there's only python2.7 in the repos. Where could I
find python2.6?

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Re: authentication issues in system settings

2010-10-19 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 09:15 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:

 I've been a member of both lists since 2003. I asked here because I
 don't think this is an F14 issue. I've had variations of this problem
 across several versions of Fedora - system-settings, while a nice
 feature-set that puts all the major configuration applets in one
 convenient place, has never worked completely faultlessly. I had hoped
 that the greater pool of users on the regular list would have gotten
 me a greater chance at a reply. 

since you've been a member of both fedora-user and fedora-test lists you
surely learned that questions about 'pre-release' versions are
appropriate on the test list.

Yes, system-settings-whatever is less than perfect at many places and
personally, I would never use it to configure samba. All of the GUI
tools for Samba simply suck and that includes the 'swat' tool from
Samba. Samba has so many configuration options that it would be a
massive undertaking to create a GUI configuration editor that actually
worked.

Craig


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Re: authentication issues in system settings

2010-10-19 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 08:38 -0700, James Mckenzie wrote:

 
 Claude and Patrick:
 
 This is an excellent case of something being broken in Fedora, not just in 
 FC14, that just keeps coming back.
 
 Claude:
 
 You were correct in asking this question on the Fedora list, but maybe a 
 little more background would have helped.  Like I've tried to use this with 
 each release of Fedora, but it appears to be broken, anyone have success with 
 this feature and if so, how?  Also, reporting this as a bug helps (if there 
 is no bug report.  If there is one, update it with all of the latest 
 information.
 
 All:
 
 Good reason not to jump on someone for reporting what on the surface looks 
 like a problem with FC14.  Maybe asking for additional information is in 
 order before we direct someone to the test list (hmmm?)  Remember, we may 
 want to know about little niggles in FC14 when it is released in two weeks 
 and the work-arounds for them.  Not nice to find out that something is broken 
 on GA day for both the developers and users.  We don't want to emulate 
 several large software companies in that manner.

since you are sure that is broken, can you identify your bug reports in
bugzilla so we can track them and begin ferreting out the details?

Craig


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Re: su or sudo su?

2010-10-19 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 10:05 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
 When I need root access, I used to use sudo su -. Recently, I discovered I 
 could simply type su -.
 
 What's the difference:
 
 su -
 sudo su -
 

I can't imagine why any UNIX/Linux system would allow a 'sudo su'
command.

su -

is just a whole lot less typing

sudo su -

can be a security nightmare

however on Debian/Ubuntu systems where there is generally no 'superuser'
login allowed, you would have to 'sudo su -' to obtain a continuous
superuser shell.

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Re: su or sudo su?

2010-10-19 Thread Tsvetomir Totev
Hmm, I think

$ sudo -i

and your account password will give you root access on Ubuntu. On Debian
sudo is not allowed by default.

$ sudo su -

is stupid.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:

 On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 10:05 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
  When I need root access, I used to use sudo su -. Recently, I discovered
 I
  could simply type su -.
 
  What's the difference:
 
  su -
  sudo su -
 
 
 I can't imagine why any UNIX/Linux system would allow a 'sudo su'
 command.

 su -

 is just a whole lot less typing

 sudo su -

 can be a security nightmare

 however on Debian/Ubuntu systems where there is generally no 'superuser'
 login allowed, you would have to 'sudo su -' to obtain a continuous
 superuser shell.

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Re: Cannot mount JFS partitions in Fedora 13 install

2010-10-19 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 12:48 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 I am installing Fedora 13 on a Dell laptop that currently has Kubuntu
 installed. I keep /home on a separate partition, but the Fedora
 installer will not let me set it as a mount point unless I format it.
 Why? How can I get around this now,at install time?

While I'm not aware of whether it can be supported, post-install.  I'll
let you see if it's supposed to be supported.  You could try this:
During install, do not make a /home mount point.  Let /home simply be a
home directory in /.  Post install, try mounting your JFS partition on
top of it.

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Squid Issue.

2010-10-19 Thread Hussain . Faraz
Dears,

http://thor.corpservers.net:7409/

this url was blocked from my squid proxy, and after using : setsebool -P 
squid_connect_any=1, this url has been unblocked and working fine,

my Question is : What are the security risks involved? Is it possible to 
allow only this site?


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Re: Warning KDE Users

2010-10-19 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 12:59 -0400, Jim wrote:
 On 10/18/2010 11:40 AM, James Mckenzie wrote:
  Jimbinary...@comcast.net  wrote:
  Sent: Oct 18, 2010 8:36 AM
  To: Community support for Fedora usersusers@lists.fedoraproject.org
  Subject: Re: Warning KDE Users
 
On 10/18/2010 10:05 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
  Jim wrote:
 
  The plasmoid that Monitors in KDE the IP address of your computer on the
  internet , is freezing up the
  KDE Desktop.
  The plasmiod has a Earth Globe at the left side of IP address.
  What's the name of this plasmoid?  I'd like to be able to investigate this
  and fix if possible.
 
  -- Rex
 
 
  It a Downloadable plasmiod from the KDE download site.
 
  the name;  IP Address Monitor   Author: Ireyon ,   it shows a World
  Globe and  91.96.176.157
 
  It freezes the desktop and you can't open anything on your desktop, you
  can move the Mouse around but Clicking does nothing.
 
  I put it on two different i686 boxes and it locked up both .
  And I sincerely hope you reported this to the site maintainers so that it 
  can be pulled as it is either broken or a malware attempt.  In no case 
  should this be available to the general public.
 
  James McKenzie
 
 
 No I didn't report it to the maintainers because I could not find a 
 email address.
 Email address that was there you had to register to a site that wants 
 your Bank Account and your DNA info and I feel I shouldn't have to give 
 my lifes history to report a Bug.
 I'm tired of getting SPAM emails from Africa .

no e-mail

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/

that is where you report bugs

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Re: Cannot mount JFS partitions in Fedora 13 install

2010-10-19 Thread Dotan Cohen
Thanks. I don't want to mess with fstab after the fact, I am backing
up the /home drive now and will convert it to ext4. If does appear
that one can run Fedora with JFS but he must disable SELinux for that.

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Re: skype for Fedora 13 X86_32

2010-10-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
 On 10/19/2010 09:48 AM, L wrote:
 I did installation as
 yum localinstall /path/to/skype.rpm

 It did not require the dependencies. I will try skype.repo as the
 above suggested. thanks


The skype repo or yum would not install the dependencies that are
required because skype is packaged pretty poorly.  This means that you
will have to specify that deps manually.  I see later in the thread that
you have it sorted out.  So this is just an explanation of why.

Rahul

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Re: Warning KDE Users

2010-10-19 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 17:36, Jim binary...@comcast.net wrote:
 It a Downloadable plasmiod from the KDE download site.

 the name;  IP Address Monitor   Author: Ireyon ,   it shows a World
 Globe and  91.96.176.157

 It freezes the desktop and you can't open anything on your desktop, you
 can move the Mouse around but Clicking does nothing.

 I put it on two different i686 boxes and it locked up both .

Are you sure that plasmoid is to blame? I am now moving to Fedora
after two Kubuntu install (32 and 64 bit) had the same lockup issues,
with no non-default plasmoids. Those were KDE 4.5 installs.

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Re: Warning KDE Users

2010-10-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
 On 10/19/2010 06:14 PM, Craig White wrote:
 
 no e-mail

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/

 that is where you report bugs

That would be the case for plasmoids from the Fedora repo but this one
seems to have been picked up by the user from elsewhere.

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Re: Warning KDE Users

2010-10-19 Thread Anoop
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 17:36, Jim binary...@comcast.net wrote:
 It a Downloadable plasmiod from the KDE download site.

 the name;  IP Address Monitor   Author: Ireyon ,   it shows a World
 Globe and  91.96.176.157

 It freezes the desktop and you can't open anything on your desktop, you
 can move the Mouse around but Clicking does nothing.

 I put it on two different i686 boxes and it locked up both .

 Are you sure that plasmoid is to blame? I am now moving to Fedora
 after two Kubuntu install (32 and 64 bit) had the same lockup issues,
 with no non-default plasmoids. Those were KDE 4.5 installs.
KDE-4.5 works very well on my Fedora-13 (32 bit). So don't worry.

Thanks,
Anoop

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Re: Warning KDE Users

2010-10-19 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 14:53, Anoop anoop.chargo...@gmail.com wrote:
 KDE-4.5 works very well on my Fedora-13 (32 bit). So don't worry.


Good to know. Two questions:
1) From which repo did you install 4.5?
2) Which plasmoids do you have running?

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Re: Warning KDE Users

2010-10-19 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 18:59, Jim binary...@comcast.net wrote:
 No I didn't report it to the maintainers because I could not find a
 email address.
 Email address that was there you had to register to a site that wants
 your Bank Account and your DNA info and I feel I shouldn't have to give
 my lifes history to report a Bug.
 I'm tired of getting SPAM emails from Africa .


They wanted your bank account info?

Wanting your email address is reasonable, the maintainer will likely
need to contact you to fix the bug. It is likely that the maintainer's
hardware / software setup differs from yours, and that in his setup
the bug does not manifest.

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Re: Cannot mount JFS partitions in Fedora 13 install

2010-10-19 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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 that one can run Fedora with JFS but he must disable SELinux for that.
 
Please open a bug report.
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Re: su or sudo su?

2010-10-19 Thread Tomas Hajek
I have to disagree with sudo su - is stupid.

If it serves a purpose (as it does for me and others I work with) then I don't 
see it as being stupid.

Can I use su -, sure I can but then I have to remember roots password (do I 
know it yes, am I allowed to work as root, yes) but I
almost always start working as my regular user and it's far easier and quicker 
for me to do sudo su - (and enter my password) then
it is to use su - ( and try to hunt down the root password, we probably have 
hundreds of different root passwords depending on
which system it is and who admins it ).

I regularly change my password and that password makes sense to me.  With 
multiple admins all choosing their own root passwords and
frequently changing them (to things that make sense to them but not necessarily 
me) I find it more useful to use sudo su -.

This also helps when the admin recently changes roots password and forgets it 
or had caps lock on or some other goofy thing (I know,
this never happens to admins ;-)).  If sudo su - (using a user password was not 
allowed) then you'd  have to undoubtedly bring the
system down and reset the root password.  It also helps when for instance you 
have to do something like fdisk where sudo fdisk will
normally get sudo: fdisk: command not found and you have to use sudo 
/sbin/fdisk.

I suppose if sudo su - asks for roots password (Defaults targetpw in 
sudoers for instance ) like opensuse seems to do, I might
consider that stupid but it probably is there for a reason and someone finds it 
useful.

Just my $0.02.
-Tomas


On 10/19/2010 08:28 AM, Tsvetomir Totev wrote:
 Hmm, I think
 
 $ sudo -i
 
 and your account password will give you root access on Ubuntu. On Debian
 sudo is not allowed by default.
 
 $ sudo su -
 
 is stupid.
 
 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com
 mailto:craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 10:05 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
  When I need root access, I used to use sudo su -. Recently, I
 discovered I
  could simply type su -.
 
  What's the difference:
 
  su -
  sudo su -
 
 
 I can't imagine why any UNIX/Linux system would allow a 'sudo su'
 command.
 
 su -
 
 is just a whole lot less typing
 
 sudo su -
 
 can be a security nightmare
 
 however on Debian/Ubuntu systems where there is generally no 'superuser'
 login allowed, you would have to 'sudo su -' to obtain a continuous
 superuser shell.
 
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Re: Installing Openshot video editor

2010-10-19 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:30 AM,  orsch...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I'd like to install openshot. As it is not available in any repo I
 picked the rpm package from here.

 http://killobyte.com/openshot/

 Unfortunately it needs python2.6, giving me the following error:

 mlt-python-0.5.4-1.fc14.x86_64 requires python(abi) = 2.6
 openshot-1.2.2-1.fc13.noarch requires python(abi) = 2.6

 I'm using f14 so there's only python2.7 in the repos. Where could I
 find python2.6?

I've been looking for a video editor to handle HD video (AVCHD) that
my camera produces. If it works with those I'd like to know if it
would be possible to get it added to the standard Fedora repos!

Kino will edit them but only after downgrading them to 480p and
cinelerra is WAY to hard for me to use.

You could try forcing it to install and see if it works.

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Re: Installing Openshot video editor

2010-10-19 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Richard Shaw wrote:
 I've been looking for a video editor to handle HD video (AVCHD) that
 my camera produces.

Enable the RPMFusion.org repos and install kdenlive. I've edited several 
HD video recordings with kdenlive as it uses ffmpeg as a backend and can 
read and output in full 1920x1080 to any codec of your choice.

If it works with those I'd like to know if it
 would be possible to get it added to the standard Fedora repos!

Impossible. AVCHD uses the patented H.264 codec. Fedora cannot ship 
software that uses patented algorithms. That's where RPMFusion.org comes in.
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Re: su or sudo su?

2010-10-19 Thread James Mckenzie
Tomas Hajek tha...@kettering.edu wrote:
(BTW, I know that I'm breaking threads, don't complain to me, complain to 
Earthlink.)

I have to disagree with sudo su - is stupid.

Given all of the information in this thread and rethinking my position, I have 
to agree.  You can block this if needed in the sudoers file.  Thus a user with 
sudo privileges could (in theory) be denied the ability to run su.

If it serves a purpose (as it does for me and others I work with) then I don't 
see it as being stupid.

Can I use su -, sure I can but then I have to remember roots password (do I 
know it yes, am I allowed to work as root,
yes) but I almost always start working as my regular user and it's far easier 
and quicker for me to do sudo su - (and
enter my password) then it is to use su - ( and try to hunt down the root 
password, we probably have hundreds of
different root passwords depending on which system it is and who admins it ).

One caveat:  Your user account should have as strong or stronger password than 
root.  Also, there are somethings in UNIXy systems that can only be done from 
console and as root (or let's put it this way, should be done.)  I know of 
users that pick weak passwords and then wonder 'what happened' when they are 
rooted through that account.  Best Security Practices at all times.  These can 
be googled, so I won't go there (and to save folks tons of bandwidth.)

[rest deleted]

Thank you Tomas for your insight.

James McKenzie


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Re: Installing Openshot video editor

2010-10-19 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
 Richard Shaw wrote:
 If it works with those I'd like to know if it
 would be possible to get it added to the standard Fedora repos!

 Impossible. AVCHD uses the patented H.264 codec. Fedora cannot ship
 software that uses patented algorithms. That's where RPMFusion.org comes in.

Well that depends, doesn't it? If openshot actually packages the
codecs that provide AVCHD support then no. If it just interfaces with
separately installed codecs (from PRM Fusion or other) then why not?

openshot itself is open source and GPL licensed, so I'm not sure if
there's any other requirements but that seems in line with the
requirements...

Richard
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Fedora C14 beta on Magny-cours

2010-10-19 Thread Victor Calvo
I tried to install FC 13 and also FC 14 on a mother board TYAN S8230
motherboard + Opteron X8 equipped with a brand new SATA disk .The darn FC14
keeps on reseting.
It passes a few initial steps but cannot load the vmlinux. Tyan support
group has not released yet the OFFICIAL Systems supported by S8230,

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Re: Installing Openshot video editor

2010-10-19 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Richard Shaw wrote:
 If it just interfaces with
 separately installed codecs (from PRM Fusion or other) then why not?

In order to use openshot you must have mlt installed. mlt is the 
frontend to use ffmpeg as the backend. ffmpeg is not allowed in normal 
Fedora repositories for patent reasons.

Cross-repository dependencies are a big no-no. No package in Fedora 
depends on packages in a third party repository.

P.S. kdenlive also uses mlt.
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Dark Fusion - show your best looking dark theme

2010-10-19 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi,
I would like to ask you to share your Fedora desktop screenshot that
you have modified with a dark looking theme.

Best one will be selected and featured as official Fusion Linux
(http://fusionlinux.org) dark fusion theme.

Currently we have one but really nice submission so check it out:
http://fusionlinux.org/2010/10/19/dark-fusion/

Any suggestion are also welcome.

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Re: Installing Openshot video editor

2010-10-19 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
 Richard Shaw wrote:
 If it just interfaces with
 separately installed codecs (from PRM Fusion or other) then why not?

 In order to use openshot you must have mlt installed. mlt is the
 frontend to use ffmpeg as the backend. ffmpeg is not allowed in normal
 Fedora repositories for patent reasons.

 Cross-repository dependencies are a big no-no. No package in Fedora
 depends on packages in a third party repository.

 P.S. kdenlive also uses mlt.

Oh well... I installed it remotely from work so I'll try it out
tonight. I looked at kdenlive's website and it looks like a good
program but probably more powerful than I need for basic editing of
family videos. If openshot works for my needs I'll petition for it to
be added to RPMFusion.

Thanks,
Richard
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Revisor problem (work around)

2010-10-19 Thread Shelby, James
Here is the work around for Revisor under Fedora 13 to get it working

Two changes are required in the 
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/live.py

Line 300: create_image_minimizer(self.__isodir + /LiveOS/osmin.img, 
self._image, 'gzip')
Line 314: 'gzip')


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Re: su or sudo su?

2010-10-19 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 10:05 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
 When I need root access, I used to use sudo su -. Recently, I discovered I
 could simply type su -.

 What's the difference:

 su -
 sudo su -

 
 I can't imagine why any UNIX/Linux system would allow a 'sudo su'
 command.

 su -

 is just a whole lot less typing

 sudo su -

 can be a security nightmare

 however on Debian/Ubuntu systems where there is generally no 'superuser'
 login allowed, you would have to 'sudo su -' to obtain a continuous
 superuser shell.

Or use sudo's options:

sudo -i = sudo su -
and
sudo -s = sudo su

The difference between sudo su - and su - as I and others have
pointed out in this thread is that you only supply the password of the
user invoking sudo for the former (for the standard sudoers setup) and
root's password for the latter.
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Re: su or sudo su?

2010-10-19 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Tomas Hajek tha...@kettering.edu wrote:

 I suppose if sudo su - asks for roots password (Defaults targetpw in 
 sudoers for
 instance) like opensuse seems to do, I might consider that stupid but it 
 probably is
 there for a reason and someone finds it useful.

targetpw requires root's password because there's an assumed -u root
in sudo su -. For sudo always to prompt for root's password, you
have to set rootpw in sudoers.
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config multi zone problem

2010-10-19 Thread Edward S.P. Leong
Dear All,

Is there any solution for manage multi domain zone file ?

For example (original):

/etc/named.conf :

zone abc.com {
type master;
file abc.com.db;
};

zone 123.com {
type master;
file 123.com.db;
};

zone 1.com {
type master;
file 1.com.db;
};

Now, can it to be :

/etc/named.conf :

include /home/dnaadmin/*.conf

/home/dnaadmin/abc_com.conf :
zone abc.com {
type master;
file abc.com.db;
};

/home/dnaadmin/123_com.conf :
zone 123.com {
type master;
file 123.com.db;
};

/home/dnaadmin/1_com.conf :
zone 1.com {
type master;
file 1.com.db;
};

Thanks !

Edward.
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Re: su or sudo su?

2010-10-19 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:49 AM, James Mckenzie
jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Tomas Hajek tha...@kettering.edu wrote:


I have to disagree with sudo su - is stupid.


 Given all of the information in this thread and rethinking my position, I 
 have to agree.
 You can block this if needed in the sudoers file.
 Thus a user with sudo privileges could (in theory) be denied the ability to 
run su.

If a user can sudo to root, he/she can run su, at the very least
through the -i and -s options.


 There are somethings in UNIXy systems that can only be done from console and 
 as root.

I've never tried disabling root in Fedora, but you're logged in as
root in recovery mode in Ubuntu (and Debian if you disable root) - so
you can be root at the console through sudo or runlevel S without
having an explicit root login.
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Re: How to change console font in grub2?

2010-10-19 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 23:29:19 -0400
 Tom H wrote:


 Unlike lilo, grub2-mkconfig doesn't re-write the MBR; a big
 difference.

 Not really. Just because you have to run extra commands for
 a different reason doesn't mean it isn't just as irritating.
 Come to think of it, at least lilo had a good reason to make
 you run extra commands, grub2 only has idiotic design decisions
 as a reason.

I don't think that once grub2 is production-ready in Fedora that extra
commands'll have to be run when a kernel is installed or uninstalled.


 Also, in grub1, grubby edits /boot/grub/grub.conf when a
 new kernel is installed so grub1's behavior isn't that different from
 grub2's.

 But it is: /boot/grub/grub.conf is the one and only place
 where grub config is stored so if you edit it by hand,
 unless you do something that horribly confuses grubby,
 you will not have your changes destroyed by grubby.

 Until /boot/grub/grub.cfg is the one and only place where
 config information is stored in grub2, it will be inferior
 to grub (no matter how many millions of loadable modules
 it comes with :-).

/etc/default/grub is meant to be the only grub2 file to edit.
Unfortunately, there aren't enough options available (as we've both
listed earlier in this thread).

Before I gave up on getting everything to be as I wanted, I used to
edit /etc/default/grub, most of the scripts in /etc/grub.d, and
/usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig... Definitely not pleasant or efficient.
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Firefox and Adobe Reader 8.1.7

2010-10-19 Thread William Case
Hi;

Before I start downloading Adobe Reader et al.  Why won't Firefox or
evince read: 

Could not launch Adobe Reader 8.1.7. Please make sure it exists in PATH
variable in the environment. If the problem persists, please reinstall
the application

I have run into several PDF files that can't be read.  Always could
before.

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Re: su or sudo su?

2010-10-19 Thread Todd Zullinger
Tom H wrote:
 sudo -i = sudo su -

Just a minor nit, they're not entirely equivalent.  Not all
environmental vars are reset.  PS1 is one that I noticed.  (Like I
said, a minor nit. ;)

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Re: Fedora C14 beta on Magny-cours

2010-10-19 Thread stan
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:25:57 -0300
Victor Calvo vcalvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried to install FC 13 and also FC 14 on a mother board TYAN S8230
 motherboard + Opteron X8 equipped with a brand new SATA disk .The
 darn FC14 keeps on reseting.
 It passes a few initial steps but cannot load the vmlinux. Tyan
 support group has not released yet the OFFICIAL Systems supported by
 S8230,

Someone will probably need more information before they can help you.
I am copying this to the test list so that the most likely people
that can help you will see it.

As I understand your problem, you install F14, it installs without
problem, but then when you reboot after the install, it fails to boot.
It continues to reset over and over again.  

I have seen similar behavior when the kernel could not get the video
working.  When I hit Ctl-C, I was dropped to a console, where I could
log in and examine the logs.  Can you do the same?  What do you see
in /var/log/messages?

Alternatively, you could edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the
defaults so that there is a timeout before booting.   Then edit the
kernel line and add a 3 to the end so you boot to text mode.  Login as
root, and try the startx command.  If it fails, look
in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why X is failing.
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Re: su or sudo su?

2010-10-19 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com wrote:
 Tom H wrote:
 sudo -i = sudo su -

 Just a minor nit, they're not entirely equivalent.  Not all
 environmental vars are reset.  PS1 is one that I noticed.  (Like I
 said, a minor nit. ;)

True, thanks.
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Re: Revisor problem (work around)

2010-10-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 09:00:53 -0600,
  Shelby, James james.she...@nrel.gov wrote:
 Here is the work around for Revisor under Fedora 13 to get it working
 
 Two changes are required in the 
 /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/live.py
 
 Line 300: create_image_minimizer(self.__isodir + /LiveOS/osmin.img, 
 self._image, 'gzip')
 Line 314: 'gzip')

Is this in a bug report? It will help make sure I don't lose track of it?
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Re: Pulseaudio 40% of CPU

2010-10-19 Thread JD
  On 10/19/2010 01:35 AM, Hiisi wrote:
 2010/10/19 JDjd1...@gmail.com:
   I played one video on youtube, then
 killed the youtube browser tab.
 --SNIP--... I have to always
 kill pulseaudio so I can get some response back.

 Actually not answering your question, but just wanted to confirm this
 problem on my system (2.6.32.21-168.fc12.i686). I often have to do the
 same!
 In my opinion 'flash' is an ugly thing. And, to be honest, I'm the one
 among those whom to blame for its wide usage. I was working nearly for
 5 years as a part-time teacher at school, teaching schoolboys to use
 flash in web-projects. Now I do not know how to atone for my sins :-)
 Looking forward for html5 video support in FireFox. Hope it became
 video-standard some day...
But pulseaudio is not part of the flash plugin from Adobe.
It is a separate Fedora released package.
Flash, which has finished playing and the Firefox
tab in whichit played is killed, does not explain why
pulseaudio continue to eat 40% of cpu, probably in
tight do nothing loop.

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Wine, pulseaudio, Starcraft problems

2010-10-19 Thread Reid Rivenburgh
On the off chance someone has been down this path  I'm currently
running an up-to-date F13 with wine installed.  I run KDE if it
matters.  I was able to install and start Starcraft 2 using wine.
Initially, it actually ran quite well on my 2.5-year old system.  The
only glitch seemed to be that the audio would cut out if the system
got too bogged down.  (I would also get errors in /var/log/messages
about pulseaudio's ratelimit kicking in.)  I could go to the Sound
options and change the sound output device to another in the list and
that would magically restore the sound for awhile.  Still, that got
annoying, so I tried to fix it.  Somehow, I made it much worse; now,
everything is going much more slowly.  I had to turn all the
performance options to low, and I still only get a few frames per
second.  And I have no sound.  Now that's really annoying!  I'm not
sure what I did, aside from a tip I found to get pulseaudio to run
with higher priority by adding my account to some groups.  I had
installed tuned, but that seemed to kill performance, so I uninstalled
it.  I think that at least partially the problem is still rooted in
pulseaudio.  Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this?  Aside
from wine, I haven't had any problems with audio (like playing music)
in a long time.

TIA,
Reid
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Re: Wine, pulseaudio, Starcraft problems

2010-10-19 Thread JD
  On 10/19/2010 10:11 AM, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
 On the off chance someone has been down this path  I'm currently
 running an up-to-date F13 with wine installed.  I run KDE if it
 matters.  I was able to install and start Starcraft 2 using wine.
 Initially, it actually ran quite well on my 2.5-year old system.  The
 only glitch seemed to be that the audio would cut out if the system
 got too bogged down.  (I would also get errors in /var/log/messages
 about pulseaudio's ratelimit kicking in.)  I could go to the Sound
 options and change the sound output device to another in the list and
 that would magically restore the sound for awhile.  Still, that got
 annoying, so I tried to fix it.  Somehow, I made it much worse; now,
 everything is going much more slowly.  I had to turn all the
 performance options to low, and I still only get a few frames per
 second.  And I have no sound.  Now that's really annoying!  I'm not
 sure what I did, aside from a tip I found to get pulseaudio to run
 with higher priority by adding my account to some groups.  I had
 installed tuned, but that seemed to kill performance, so I uninstalled
 it.  I think that at least partially the problem is still rooted in
 pulseaudio.  Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this?  Aside
 from wine, I haven't had any problems with audio (like playing music)
 in a long time.

 TIA,
 Reid
What if you login as another user and run it again?
See if that restores some performance.
If it does, there are settings you have in your dot files
that are causing the lackluster performance.
Since I do not know all the dot files of starcraft,
pulseaudio and wine, I guess you have to do some
searching.
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Re: Wine, pulseaudio, Starcraft problems

2010-10-19 Thread Reid Rivenburgh
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:18 AM, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 What if you login as another user and run it again?
 See if that restores some performance.
 If it does, there are settings you have in your dot files
 that are causing the lackluster performance.
 Since I do not know all the dot files of starcraft,
 pulseaudio and wine, I guess you have to do some
 searching.

Thanks, JD, that's a good idea.  I'll try that.

Reid
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Re: Wine, pulseaudio, Starcraft problems

2010-10-19 Thread James Mckenzie
Reid Rivenburgh re...@pobox.com wrote:
Sent: Oct 19, 2010 10:11 AM
To: Community assistance, encouragement,
   and advice for using Fedora. fedora-l...@redhat.com
Subject: Wine, pulseaudio, Starcraft problems

On the off chance someone has been down this path  I'm currently
running an up-to-date F13 with wine installed.  I run KDE if it
matters.  I was able to install and start Starcraft 2 using wine.
Initially, it actually ran quite well on my 2.5-year old system.  The
only glitch seemed to be that the audio would cut out if the system
got too bogged down.  (I would also get errors in /var/log/messages
about pulseaudio's ratelimit kicking in.) 

This is your problem.  Kill pulseaudio and switch to Alsa when running this 
game.  Wine does not and WILL not support pulseaudio.

James McKenzie

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Re: Wine, pulseaudio, Starcraft problems

2010-10-19 Thread Reid Rivenburgh
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:44 AM, James Mckenzie
jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Reid Rivenburgh re...@pobox.com wrote:
On the off chance someone has been down this path  I'm currently
running an up-to-date F13 with wine installed.  I run KDE if it
matters.  I was able to install and start Starcraft 2 using wine.
Initially, it actually ran quite well on my 2.5-year old system.  The
only glitch seemed to be that the audio would cut out if the system
got too bogged down.  (I would also get errors in /var/log/messages
about pulseaudio's ratelimit kicking in.)

 This is your problem.  Kill pulseaudio and switch to Alsa when running this 
 game.  Wine does not and WILL not support pulseaudio.

Well, I was hopeful that it would work okay, given the existence of
the wine-pulseaudio package  I use pulse by default for everything
else, but I'm fine with using alsa instead for the game.  Do you have
any pointers about doing that?  It seems like if I kill pulseaudio, it
starts right up again.  I'm also not sure how to use alsa, aside from
installing the wine-alsa package (and uninstalling wine-pulseaudio)
and I suppose choosing it in the winecfg app.  Maybe that's all there
is to it?  It's been a long time since I've had to worry about any of
these audio system issues, which has been a good thing!  Thanks for
the info.

Reid
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Re: Installing Openshot video editor

2010-10-19 Thread orschiro
Well having Openshot in rpmfusion would be great. But until this
happens is there any way to use it already with fedora14?

I posted the error message in my first post, but here once again.

mlt-python-0.5.4-1.fc14.x86_64 requires python(abi) = 2.6
openshot-1.2.2-1.fc13.noarch requires python(abi) = 2.6

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2010/10/19 Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
 Richard Shaw wrote:
 If it just interfaces with
 separately installed codecs (from PRM Fusion or other) then why not?

 In order to use openshot you must have mlt installed. mlt is the
 frontend to use ffmpeg as the backend. ffmpeg is not allowed in normal
 Fedora repositories for patent reasons.

 Cross-repository dependencies are a big no-no. No package in Fedora
 depends on packages in a third party repository.

 P.S. kdenlive also uses mlt.

 Oh well... I installed it remotely from work so I'll try it out
 tonight. I looked at kdenlive's website and it looks like a good
 program but probably more powerful than I need for basic editing of
 family videos. If openshot works for my needs I'll petition for it to
 be added to RPMFusion.

 Thanks,
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Re: authentication issues in system settings

2010-10-19 Thread Claude Jones
On 10/19/2010 8:17 AM, Craig White wrote:
 since you've been a member of both fedora-user and fedora-test lists you
 surely learned that questions about 'pre-release' versions are
 appropriate on the test list.

I already spoke to your above comments - you chose to ignore me, or you 
disagree - that's fine - if you choose to pursue this line of 
argumentation, I'll just ignore you

 Yes, system-settings-whatever is less than perfect at many places and
 personally, I would never use it to configure samba. All of the GUI
 tools for Samba simply suck and that includes the 'swat' tool from
 Samba. Samba has so many configuration options that it would be a
 massive undertaking to create a GUI configuration editor that actually
 worked.
I don't really care about your views on the samba GUI's - I know that 
you have considerable expertise with Samba, but, my needs are quite 
simple - I share one folder on my machine, on our home network - the 
Samba GUI works just fine for this.
There's been much noise about this simple request of mine, but not much 
useful comment or help - does anyone know how the systemsettings program 
determines which settings GUIs need to be run in root mode and how the 
prompt to enter the root password is invoked?

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Re: config multi zone problem

2010-10-19 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 23:28 +0800, Edward S.P. Leong wrote:
 Is there any solution for manage multi domain zone file ?

Your example isn't clear what's multi-domain about a zone file.  You
don't appear to be using one zone file for multiple domains, more like
multiple configuration files, one for each domain (which does look
perfectly feasible, to me).

What are you actually trying to do?  (Rather than how are you trying to
do it.)

 For example (original):
 
 /etc/named.conf :
 
 zone abc.com {
 type master;
 file abc.com.db;
 };

...[snip]...  The usual fare, a conf file listing several different
files for the records for different domains.  One domain per file.
Looks fine.

 Now, can it to be :
 
 /etc/named.conf :
 
 include /home/dnaadmin/*.conf
 
 /home/dnaadmin/abc_com.conf :
 zone abc.com {
 type master;
 file abc.com.db;
 };

...[snip]...  More of the above, with each record having separate .conf
files, as well.  Also looks do-able, but...

I see problems, here.  You're, most likely, going to have SELinux issues
for trying to put things in /home.  There are various sub-directories
inside /var/named for putting multiple files.  The right (expected) ones
should be used.

However, once you've sorted out where to put all these files, or killed
off SELinux (which I advise against).  The file parameter of the
record points to the full file path of where the record will be (from
the DNS server's point of view of where / begins - it's chrooted,
usually).  Without a path, they're expected in the DNS server's root, as
the direction option in named.conf specifies; and with a path, in a
sub-directory.

Traditionally, you had:
  /etc/named.conf
  /var/named/   (zone record files went in here)

The chrooted BIND puts them all inside:
  /var/named/chroot/  (the / for BIND)

So, its:
  /etc/named.conf is in   /var/named/chroot/etc/named.conf
  /var/named/zonefiles are in /var/named/chroot/zonefiles

And you have some data and slaves sub-directories inside named/ that
can hold records, too (zone files).

For what it's worth, chrooting isn't necessary with a personal computer,
where nobody else is going to be able to get in and change things, but
is a good idea when others have access.  Whether you chroot will depend
on whether you're playing or doing...

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trying to listen to streaming music, how can i figure out the ip address of the stream

2010-10-19 Thread bruce
hey...

Using Fedora 13, trying to figure out how to determine the stream ip
address to plug the address into one of the music apps.

a number of the sites apparently still believe that windows/media is
the way to go.

some of the sites i've seen discuss modifying firefox/plugins, but the
approaches didn't work for me.

i'm running 64 bit

any thoughts/suggestions?

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Re: Wine, pulseaudio, Starcraft problems

2010-10-19 Thread stan
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:54:59 -0600
Reid Rivenburgh re...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 Well, I was hopeful that it would work okay, given the existence of
 the wine-pulseaudio package  I use pulse by default for everything
 else, but I'm fine with using alsa instead for the game.  Do you have
 any pointers about doing that?  It seems like if I kill pulseaudio, it
 starts right up again.  I'm also not sure how to use alsa, aside from
 installing the wine-alsa package (and uninstalling wine-pulseaudio)
 and I suppose choosing it in the winecfg app.  Maybe that's all there
 is to it?  It's been a long time since I've had to worry about any of
 these audio system issues, which has been a good thing!  Thanks for
 the info.

If you install the package pavucontrol you can turn devices off and on
through the GUI for pulseaudio.

I don't know about wine and PA, but if wine doesn't support PA, then
you were probably using the default routing through alsa, in which
pulse imitates alsa (I think).  As far as config of wine goes, your
ideas are probably the right direction.

Even if the wine-pulseaudio package means that wine is actually using
PA, it's possible that the complexity is causing problems that alsa
might not have.  Did you try stopping and restarting pulse?  From
memory, I think that would be
pulseaudio --kill
pulseaudio --start

You might try a search to see if someone else has had this problem
with wine and solved it.
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kdenlive (was Re: Installing Openshot video editor)

2010-10-19 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 08:34 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
 Enable the RPMFusion.org repos and install kdenlive. I've edited
 several HD video recordings with kdenlive as it uses ffmpeg as a
 backend and can read and output in full 1920x1080 to any codec of your
 choice.

This interests me, as a video production person who's still in the
analogue world, because the Windows/Mac worlds of digital video just
plain suck, unless you can throw broadcasting amounts of dollars at
software and hardware.  (Those who've used real editing hardware know
just how annoying computer editors are with their interfaces, and lack
of knobs to just reach out and tweak, with menus to wade through.)
We're still using a $20,000 edit suite, because we're not going to throw
that away to be replaced with horrible $2,000 computer editing.

Have you compared using this with the usual opposition (Adobe Premiere,
Pinnacle, FinalCut, etc.)?  Operation-wise, and rendering time-wise?

One thing we've noticed with some of the free editing software is that
you're going to spend so much time trying to render the final product
that you can't use it professionally.  And that things fall over and die
a few seconds into trying to acquire your vision, in the first place.

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Re: Firefox and Adobe Reader 8.1.7

2010-10-19 Thread g
On 10/19/2010 03:43 PM, William Case wrote:
 Hi;
 
 Before I start downloading Adobe Reader et al.  Why won't Firefox or
 evince read: 
 
 Could not launch Adobe Reader 8.1.7. Please make sure it exists in PATH
 variable in the environment. If the problem persists, please reinstall
 the application
 
 I have run into several PDF files that can't be read.  Always could
 before.


i am showing adobe reader 9.3 in firefox 3.8.9.


maybe updating will help.


from menu bar 'tools  add-ons  plugins' click on [find updates] at
bottom left of window.


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Re: Wine, pulseaudio, Starcraft problems

2010-10-19 Thread James Mckenzie
stan gr...@q.com wrote:
Sent: Oct 19, 2010 12:15 PM
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Wine, pulseaudio, Starcraft problems

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:54:59 -0600
Reid Rivenburgh re...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 Well, I was hopeful that it would work okay, given the existence of
 the wine-pulseaudio package  I use pulse by default for everything
 else, but I'm fine with using alsa instead for the game.  Do you have
 any pointers about doing that?  It seems like if I kill pulseaudio, it
 starts right up again.  I'm also not sure how to use alsa, aside from
 installing the wine-alsa package (and uninstalling wine-pulseaudio)
 and I suppose choosing it in the winecfg app.  Maybe that's all there
 is to it?  It's been a long time since I've had to worry about any of
 these audio system issues, which has been a good thing!  Thanks for
 the info.

If you install the package pavucontrol you can turn devices off and on
through the GUI for pulseaudio.

I don't know about wine and PA, but if wine doesn't support PA, then
you were probably using the default routing through alsa, in which
pulse imitates alsa (I think).  As far as config of wine goes, your
ideas are probably the right direction.

It is possible that the loss of sound may be caused by pulseaudio's ALSA 
emulation being broken.  A search of the Wine Users list will reveal many 
problems caused by pulseaudio.

Yes there is an 'unoffical' interface to PA with Wine but it is far from 
complete and may actually break Wine.

A search of the Wine User's mailing list might be a good place to start.  The 
mailing lists can be accessed from the Support link on the Wine Web page 
(http://www.winehq.org)

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Re: trying to listen to streaming music, how can i figure out the ip address of the stream

2010-10-19 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 12:04 -0700, bruce wrote:
 Using Fedora 13, trying to figure out how to determine the stream ip
 address to plug the address into one of the music apps.
 
 a number of the sites apparently still believe that windows/media is
 the way to go.
 
 some of the sites i've seen discuss modifying firefox/plugins, but the
 approaches didn't work for me.

Modifying them?  Often, one of the various download helpers can find
media in a page, and give you some alternative ways to dealing with
their address (download, copy the address, etc.).  If it's embedded in
flash, some of the flashblock plugins may let you copy the address of a
currently blocked flash element.  Though, sometimes that just gets you
the address of a flash player program, not the actual media stream.

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Re: authentication issues in system settings

2010-10-19 Thread James Kerr
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 14:36 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:

 There's been much noise about this simple request of mine, but not much 
 useful comment or help - does anyone know how the systemsettings program 
 determines which settings GUIs need to be run in root mode and how the 
 prompt to enter the root password is invoked?
 
  

My understanding is that polkit is now supposed to take care of
escalating privileges when required in systemsettings. I no longer use
KDE, but in earlier versions, I ran systemsettings as root when I wanted
to use the modules that required Administrator authorisation.

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Re: Wine, pulseaudio, Starcraft problems

2010-10-19 Thread Reid Rivenburgh
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:15 PM, stan gr...@q.com wrote:
 I don't know about wine and PA, but if wine doesn't support PA, then
 you were probably using the default routing through alsa, in which
 pulse imitates alsa (I think).  As far as config of wine goes, your
 ideas are probably the right direction.

 Even if the wine-pulseaudio package means that wine is actually using
 PA, it's possible that the complexity is causing problems that alsa
 might not have.  Did you try stopping and restarting pulse?  From
 memory, I think that would be
 pulseaudio --kill
 pulseaudio --start

 You might try a search to see if someone else has had this problem
 with wine and solved it.

Thanks for the info.  I will play around with wine and alsa this
evening and hopefully get it working.

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Re: trying to listen to streaming music, how can i figure out the ip address of the stream

2010-10-19 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:04:25 -0700
bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 hey...
 
 Using Fedora 13, trying to figure out how to determine the stream ip
 address to plug the address into one of the music apps.
 
 a number of the sites apparently still believe that windows/media is
 the way to go.
 
 some of the sites i've seen discuss modifying firefox/plugins, but the
 approaches didn't work for me.
 
 i'm running 64 bit
 
 any thoughts/suggestions?
 
 thanks


Bruce:

Take a look at streamtuner. It accesses a number of sites which
aggregate web radio stations (my preference is xiph), and can be used
to call many audio players (again, audacious works very well for me.)

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Re: Squid Issue.

2010-10-19 Thread Tim
Hussain Faraz:
 http://thor.corpservers.net:7409/ 
  
 this url was blocked from my squid proxy, and after using : setsebool
 -P squid_connect_any=1, this url has been unblocked and working fine, 

That would be about access via that port number, more than the address
itself.

 my Question is : What are the security risks involved? Is it possible
 to allow only this site? 
 
If you read the Squid manual, it gives reasons about why you may block
access to unusual ports.  (Or it did, the last time I looked, but that
was a long time ago.)  And you should be able to add specific exceptions
to the Squid configuration.

Have a look at the Squid manual, then get back to us if you get stuck.
Have a look at ACLs.  You want to allow access to that address AND that
port, as a combination.  Perhaps that address with all normal ports plus
that one.

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Re: authentication issues in system settings

2010-10-19 Thread Claude Jones
On 10/19/2010 3:33 PM, James Kerr wrote:
 My understanding is that polkit is now supposed to take care of
 escalating privileges when required in systemsettings. I no longer use
 KDE, but in earlier versions, I ran systemsettings as root when I wanted
 to use the modules that required Administrator authorisation.

thank you - I did start doing what you report just yesterday - it's a 
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Re: Wine, pulseaudio, Starcraft problems

2010-10-19 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:15 PM, stan gr...@q.com wrote:
 On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:54:59 -0600
 Reid Rivenburgh re...@pobox.com wrote:
 I don't know about wine and PA, but if wine doesn't support PA, then
 you were probably using the default routing through alsa, in which
 pulse imitates alsa (I think).  As far as config of wine goes, your
 ideas are probably the right direction.

 Even if the wine-pulseaudio package means that wine is actually using
 PA, it's possible that the complexity is causing problems that alsa
 might not have.  Did you try stopping and restarting pulse?  From
 memory, I think that would be
 pulseaudio --kill
 pulseaudio --start

I believe the alsa-plugin-pulseaudio or whatever the name is forces
applications that think they are talking directly to ALSA to use pulse
audio. The most elegant solution might be to use pactl to suspend
pulseaudio while you're running WINE and then re-enable it once your
done, however it's a CLI application and is not very intuitive. I know
MythTV has a way of suspending PA while it's running but now that I
look at the man page for pactl it only has commands for suspending a
sink or source, not the whole daemon...

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Re: Wine, pulseaudio, Starcraft problems

2010-10-19 Thread Reid Rivenburgh
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe the alsa-plugin-pulseaudio or whatever the name is forces
 applications that think they are talking directly to ALSA to use pulse
 audio. The most elegant solution might be to use pactl to suspend
 pulseaudio while you're running WINE and then re-enable it once your
 done, however it's a CLI application and is not very intuitive. I know
 MythTV has a way of suspending PA while it's running but now that I
 look at the man page for pactl it only has commands for suspending a
 sink or source, not the whole daemon...

I've also seen some references to pasuspender, which might be what you
were thinking of.  It might easily do the trick.  I haven't yet tried
any of this, though

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Re: [Bulk] Re: Firefox and Adobe Reader 8.1.7

2010-10-19 Thread William Case
Hi g;
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 19:26 +, g wrote:
 On 10/19/2010 03:43 PM, William Case wrote:
  Hi;
  
  Before I start downloading Adobe Reader et al.  Why won't Firefox or
  evince read: 
  
  Could not launch Adobe Reader 8.1.7. Please make sure it exists in PATH
  variable in the environment. If the problem persists, please reinstall
  the application
  
  I have run into several PDF files that can't be read.  Always could
  before.
 
 
 i am showing adobe reader 9.3 in firefox 3.8.9.
 
 
So am I.

 maybe updating will help.
 
 
 from menu bar 'tools  add-ons  plugins' click on [find updates] at
 bottom left of window.

Tried that before posting. 

Meanwhile that site URL is no longer available.  Strange, it was an
American .gov site.

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Re: trying to listen to streaming music, how can i figure out the ip address of the stream

2010-10-19 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 12:04 -0700, bruce wrote:
 trying to figure out how to determine the stream ip
 address to plug the address into one of the music apps.

That might not help you, unless the IP address only hosts that service.
These days, many completely different services come from the same IP
address (virtual hosting), and the host name is a required part of
making the connection.

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Re: kdenlive (was Re: Installing Openshot video editor)

2010-10-19 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/10/19 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au

 On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 08:34 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
  Enable the RPMFusion.org repos and install kdenlive. I've edited
  several HD video recordings with kdenlive as it uses ffmpeg as a
  backend and can read and output in full 1920x1080 to any codec of your
  choice.

 This interests me, as a video production person who's still in the
 analogue world, because the Windows/Mac worlds of digital video just
 plain suck, unless you can throw broadcasting amounts of dollars at
 software and hardware.  (Those who've used real editing hardware know
 just how annoying computer editors are with their interfaces, and lack
 of knobs to just reach out and tweak, with menus to wade through.)
 We're still using a $20,000 edit suite, because we're not going to throw
 that away to be replaced with horrible $2,000 computer editing.

 Have you compared using this with the usual opposition (Adobe Premiere,
 Pinnacle, FinalCut, etc.)?  Operation-wise, and rendering time-wise?

 One thing we've noticed with some of the free editing software is that
 you're going to spend so much time trying to render the final product
 that you can't use it professionally.  And that things fall over and die
 a few seconds into trying to acquire your vision, in the first place.

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Kdenlive is a Fully Professional editor, Maybe the best of the best, there's
a cool tutorial you can see in order to
learn about it's capabilities, the first parts are just for explaining basic
stuff and the final one is a deeper conference
about Kdenlive:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=602F0DE4A97B0E65playnext=1v=AZVsL1SSuGs

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Re: Which package you would like every new Fedora user to see?

2010-10-19 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/10/16 stan gr...@q.com

 On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:48:28 +0200
 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:

  Audio and video codecs including flash are preinstalled. We are going
  the path of Linux Mint to make user experience best as possible right
  out of the box, and for not that means also including few non-open
  components. As soon as they become redundant we will drop them for
  open source ones. But unfortunately for now there must be few
  proprietary pieces in order to make linux destop usable for non geeks
  and non developers ie. regular users.
 
 
 I did a search a few years ago, and I think the patents on mpeg
 start to expire next year and continue to expire in dribs and drabs
 over the next few years. I suspect that is part of the reason for the
 new proprietary video standard being proposed for html5. ;-)

 So you should be home free in a couple of years.
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I'm going to give my two cents to this project of Fusion Linux:

MANDATORY PACKAGES FOR EVERY NEW LINUX USER:

- audacious

- cheese

- kmess

- pidgin

- gimp

- gparted

- kscd

- sound-juicer

- xchat

- kget

- kdenlive

- k3b

- banshee

- xsane

- vlc

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Re: Squid Issue.

2010-10-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
  Please do not hijack threads. Your message is incorrectly associated 
with an existing thread because you used Reply instead of composing a 
new message. Changing the Subect line does not fix this.

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Re: Which package you would like every new Fedora user to see?

2010-10-19 Thread Manuel Escudero
2010/10/19 Manuel Escudero jmlev...@gmail.com



 2010/10/16 stan gr...@q.com

 On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:48:28 +0200
 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:

  Audio and video codecs including flash are preinstalled. We are going
  the path of Linux Mint to make user experience best as possible right
  out of the box, and for not that means also including few non-open
  components. As soon as they become redundant we will drop them for
  open source ones. But unfortunately for now there must be few
  proprietary pieces in order to make linux destop usable for non geeks
  and non developers ie. regular users.
 
 
 I did a search a few years ago, and I think the patents on mpeg
 start to expire next year and continue to expire in dribs and drabs
 over the next few years. I suspect that is part of the reason for the
 new proprietary video standard being proposed for html5. ;-)

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 I'm going to give my two cents to this project of Fusion Linux:

 MANDATORY PACKAGES FOR EVERY NEW LINUX USER:

 - audacious

 - cheese

 - kmess

 - pidgin

 - gimp

 - gparted

 - kscd

 - sound-juicer

 - xchat

 - kget

 - kdenlive

 - k3b

 - banshee

 - xsane

 - vlc

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Oh! and I forgot: Skype and Firefox :)

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Re: kdenlive (was Re: Installing Openshot video editor)

2010-10-19 Thread Claude Jones
On 10/19/2010 3:18 PM, Tim wrote:
 This interests me, as a video production person who's still in the
 analogue world, because the Windows/Mac worlds of digital video just
 plain suck, unless you can throw broadcasting amounts of dollars at
 software and hardware.  (Those who've used real editing hardware know
 just how annoying computer editors are with their interfaces, and lack
 of knobs to just reach out and tweak, with menus to wade through.)
 We're still using a $20,000 edit suite, because we're not going to throw
 that away to be replaced with horrible $2,000 computer editing.

 Have you compared using this with the usual opposition (Adobe Premiere,
 Pinnacle, FinalCut, etc.)?  Operation-wise, and rendering time-wise?

 One thing we've noticed with some of the free editing software is that
 you're going to spend so much time trying to render the final product
 that you can't use it professionally.  And that things fall over and die
 a few seconds into trying to acquire your vision, in the first place.

I've got a linear editing suite with tape decks and a Pinnacle Aladdin 
for DVE (once in a blue moon, we still fire it up); in 1999, we acquired 
a DPS Velocity NLE - it was ~$20 with the computer, the boardset, the 
dual CRT's and the big Sony NTSC reference monitor; I never looked back. 
I now also have Sony Vegas and Adobe Premiere workstations - the latter 
don't compare to the SD Velocity, but they can handle all the new 
formats including HD, which our aging Velocity can't. The Velocity could 
mix two tracks of video with DVE transitions, plus two tracks of 
graphics, be they pics or titles or whatever, including moving video, 
all in real, real time, with full raster display on a big NTSC monitor. 
The HD workstations didn't come close to this performance till just 
recently. Now, they are getting very close...

I've worked with Cinelerra for years - it's a great piece of open-source 
software, but, it's not in the same league as the products I listed 
above - it just has too many bugs, and a number of limitations that keep 
it from being viable in a weekly/daily production environment.

KDEnlive and OpenShot are nice little programs that are more oriented to 
hobby-use and very limited lower-end production environments.

I keep up with this stuff very closely. I haven't yet tried to install 
OpenShot on my new F14 boxes, so I can't speak to Robert's, the OP's 
original question, unfortunately

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Re: [Bulk] Re: Firefox and Adobe Reader 8.1.7

2010-10-19 Thread g
On 10/19/2010 08:13 PM, William Case wrote:
snip

hello w c.

 Tried that before posting. 
 
 Meanwhile that site URL is no longer available.  Strange, it was an
 American .gov site.

being that it was behind on what is current adobe reader, site author/owner
had a check that did not allow for later versions, which is not unusual.

as i understand, .gov sites are under strict guidance as to how sites
are to be maintained. could be that owner failed in his compliance.

also, .gov is not a site host, so owner may have lost her/his/their lease
with their provider.

or she/he/they have received complaints on adobe problem and are updating
site. never know.

give it a few days to see if it comes back.

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Re: trying to listen to streaming music, how can i figure out the ip address of the stream

2010-10-19 Thread bruce
thanks for all the input.

i was/am actually looking to be able to somehow extract the
ip/addresses of the stream as it's played from the windows/media site.

as an aexample, i'm looking for the ip/address of the wbls/kjlh/kmel stations.

the given sites provide the embedded player, but of course, only for windows.

i'm curious to see if one can simply play the url, if one knows the
url of the stream!

thanks



On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Dj YB yehi...@mail.ru wrote:
 On Tuesday October 19 2010 21:04:25 bruce wrote:
 hey...

 Using Fedora 13, trying to figure out how to determine the stream ip
 address to plug the address into one of the music apps.

 a number of the sites apparently still believe that windows/media is
 the way to go.

 some of the sites i've seen discuss modifying firefox/plugins, but the
 approaches didn't work for me.

 i'm running 64 bit

 any thoughts/suggestions?

 nslookup

 $ nslookup www.di.fm
 Server:         132.68.238.49
 Address:        132.68.238.49#53

 Non-authoritative answer:
 Name:   www.di.fm
 Address: 72.26.204.10


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Re: lost gpg key

2010-10-19 Thread Steve Searle
Around 10:04pm on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 (UK time), Dj YB scrawled:

 However I don't know where I put the private key, is there a default location 
 it is located at?

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Re: lost gpg key

2010-10-19 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue October 19 2010, Dj YB wrote:
 In my previous installation (FC11) I used a gpg key to sign\encrypt
 mails\files.
 However I don't know where I put the private key, is there a default
 location it is located at?
 If not, should I revoke the key? how do I do that?

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find the origin of a process

2010-10-19 Thread L
Hi
Look at the below processes. DavMail started at boot up. This is not
proper because User's desktop does not start. I want DavMail started
after user login to the desktop.

I need to stop this process from auto starting. I need to find where
this process was called.
The process 1 is /sbin/init I can't find where it calls  ./davmail.sh

USER1   2072 1  0 08:51 ?00:00:00 sh ./davmail.sh
USER1   2288  2072  0 08:51 ?00:00:02 java -cp
./davmail.jar::./lib/activation-1.1.jar:./lib/commons-codec-1.3.jar:./lib/commons-collections-3.1.jar:./lib/commons-httpclient-3.1.jar:./lib/commons-logging-1.0.4.jar:./lib/htmlcleaner-2.1.jar:./lib/jackrabbit-webdav-1.4.jar:./lib/jcifs-1.3.14.jar:./lib/jdom-1.0.jar:./lib/junit-3.8.1.jar:./lib/log4j-1.2.15.jar:./lib/mail-1.4.1.jar:./lib/slf4j-api-1.3.1.jar:./lib/slf4j-log4j12-1.3.1.jar:./lib/stax-api-1.0.1.jar:./lib/swt-3.6-gtk-linux-x86_64.jar:./lib/wstx-asl-3.2.7.jar:./lib/xercesImpl-2.8.1.jar
davmail.DavGateway

thanks

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Re: Testing graphics card capabilities

2010-10-19 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com wrote:
 1, various timedemos of existing engines in the repo
 2. unigine 3d benchmark: http://unigine.com/download/

Thanks, Rudolf and the other respondents.

Regarding suggestion 1, which one does you advise?

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Re: lost gpg key

2010-10-19 Thread Larry Brower
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 Hello,
 
 In my previous installation (FC11) I used a gpg key to sign\encrypt 
 mails\files.
 However I don't know where I put the private key, is there a default location 
 it is located at?
 If not, should I revoke the key? how do I do that?
 
 Thanks,
 YB.

~/.gnupg is the default as others have said.  gpg -K will show your
secret keyring.  When you say previous installation I am assuming you
either upgraded or reinstalled. Is this correct?
If so, how did you do it?
Did you just upgrade or was this a clean installation?
If you reinstalled completely then you deleted the private key which
is needed to generate a revocation certificate. As such you can not
revoke the key. If you did this you may be able to use something like
TestDisk[1] to get it back but no guarantees.


1. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
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X can't run at full monitor res, but plymouth/rhgb can?

2010-10-19 Thread Sam Varshavchik

This one is very interesting.

I relocated my LCD monitor whose native resolution is 1920x1080. The video 
card is NV GTX 285, that outputs through a DVI port. The monitor has both a 
DVI and a D-SUB VGA plugs.


With either the standard DVI cable, or a standard VGA cable hooked up 
through a DVI-VGA adapter, everything works fine.


After I relocated the monitor, and attached a 35' long VGA cable via the 
DVI-VGA adapter, the X desktop, and only the X desktop, now comes up with an 
ugly maximum resolution of 1024x768. system-config-display gives me that as 
the max available resolution.


But here's the WTF:

At system boot, plymouth comes up without any issues at 1920x1080, spinning 
the solar theme over the VGA cable. But as soon as plymouth finishes its 
thing, and X takes over, X refuses to go beyond 1024x768. However, if I flip 
to an alternative ALT-VTx, the alternative system console display runs at 
1920x1080. Only X is having a cow here.


I see the following splat in /var/log/messages:

Oct 19 18:19:16 monster kernel: [drm] nouveau :06:00.0: No native mode, 
forcing panel scaling
Oct 19 18:19:16 monster kernel: [drm] nouveau :06:00.0: 0x125B: parsing 
clock script 0
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel: [drm] nouveau :06:00.0: No native mode, 
forcing panel scaling
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel: i2c i2c-1: sendbytes: NAK bailout.
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel: [drm] nouveau :06:00.0: 0x125B: parsing 
clock script 0
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel: [drm:drm_edid_block_valid] *ERROR* EDID 
checksum is invalid, remainder is 254
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel: [drm:drm_edid_block_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel:
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel: [drm:drm_edid_block_valid] *ERROR* EDID 
checksum is invalid, remainder is 150
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel: [drm:drm_edid_block_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel:
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel: [drm:drm_edid_block_valid] *ERROR* EDID 
checksum is invalid, remainder is 186
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel: [drm:drm_edid_block_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel:
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel: [drm:drm_edid_block_valid] *ERROR* EDID 
checksum is invalid, remainder is 103
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel: [drm:drm_edid_block_valid] *ERROR* Raw EDID:
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel:
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel: nouveau :06:00.0: DVI-I-1: EDID block 0 
invalid.
Oct 19 18:19:22 monster kernel: [drm] nouveau :06:00.0: DDC responded, but 
no EDID for DVI-I-1

Obviously X has issues poking the monitor, however since both rhgb and the 
system console terminals are just peachy coming up at 1920x1080, I don't see 
why X should be having a cow, here.


I tried mucking around with xorg.conf (and experience flashbacks to the good 
ol' days). The results were …an obvious dead end.


I do have an extra-long DVI cable on order, hopefully this'll fix it. May 
be, may be not.




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Re: find the origin of a process

2010-10-19 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/19/2010 03:12 PM, L wrote:
 Hi
 Look at the below processes. DavMail started at boot up. This is not
 proper because User's desktop does not start. I want DavMail started
 after user login to the desktop.

 I need to stop this process from auto starting. I need to find where
 this process was called.
 The process 1 is /sbin/init I can't find where it calls  ./davmail.sh

 USER1   2072 1  0 08:51 ?00:00:00 sh ./davmail.sh
 USER1   2288  2072  0 08:51 ?00:00:02 java -cp
 ./davmail.jar::./lib/activation-1.1.jar:./lib/commons-codec-1.3.jar:./lib/commons-collections-3.1.jar:./lib/commons-httpclient-3.1.jar:./lib/commons-logging-1.0.4.jar:./lib/htmlcleaner-2.1.jar:./lib/jackrabbit-webdav-1.4.jar:./lib/jcifs-1.3.14.jar:./lib/jdom-1.0.jar:./lib/junit-3.8.1.jar:./lib/log4j-1.2.15.jar:./lib/mail-1.4.1.jar:./lib/slf4j-api-1.3.1.jar:./lib/slf4j-log4j12-1.3.1.jar:./lib/stax-api-1.0.1.jar:./lib/swt-3.6-gtk-linux-x86_64.jar:./lib/wstx-asl-3.2.7.jar:./lib/xercesImpl-2.8.1.jar
 davmail.DavGateway

Check /etc/rc.d/init.d and see if it's called out in a file there.
Also check the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file.
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Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Firefox and Adobe Reader 8.1.7

2010-10-19 Thread William Case
Hi g;

On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 20:44 +, g wrote:
 On 10/19/2010 08:13 PM, William Case wrote:
 snip
 
 hello w c.
 
  Tried that before posting. 
  
  Meanwhile that site URL is no longer available.  Strange, it was an
  American .gov site.
 
 being that it was behind on what is current adobe reader, site author/owner
 had a check that did not allow for later versions, which is not unusual.
 
 as i understand, .gov sites are under strict guidance as to how sites
 are to be maintained. could be that owner failed in his compliance.
 
 also, .gov is not a site host, so owner may have lost her/his/their lease
 with their provider.
 
 or she/he/they have received complaints on adobe problem and are updating
 site. never know.
 
 give it a few days to see if it comes back.
 
 what was url?
 

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/74xx/doc7492/08-17-BudgetUpdate.pdf


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Re: trying to listen to streaming music, how can i figure out the ip address of the stream

2010-10-19 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 14:25 -0700, bruce wrote:
 i'm curious to see if one can simply play the url, if one knows the
 url of the stream!

Often, yes.  If the stream uses one of the usual codecs.

e.g. mplayer -playlist http://example.com/this-is-fake.m3u

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Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Firefox and Adobe Reader 8.1.7

2010-10-19 Thread g
hi w c,

On 10/19/2010 11:07 PM, William Case wrote:
snip

 http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/74xx/doc7492/08-17-BudgetUpdate.

http://www.cbo.gov/; is still a good link.

try this instead of your link;

  http://www.cbo.gov/search/sitesearch.cfm?criteria=08-17-BudgetUpdate.pdf

i entered

  08-17-BudgetUpdate.pdf

in search bar at;

   http://www.cbo.gov/

to get above link.

hth.


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Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Firefox and Adobe Reader 8.1.7

2010-10-19 Thread g
*oops*

On 10/20/2010 12:06 AM, g wrote:
 hi w c,
 
 On 10/19/2010 11:07 PM, William Case wrote:
 snip
 
 http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/74xx/doc7492/08-17-BudgetUpdate.
 
 http://www.cbo.gov/; is still a good link.
 
 try this instead of your link;
 
   http://www.cbo.gov/search/sitesearch.cfm?criteria=08-17-BudgetUpdate.pdf
 
 i entered
 
   08-17-BudgetUpdate.pdf
 
 in search bar at;
 
http://www.cbo.gov/
 
 to get above link.

left out a minor part. :(

the link i sent is not the pdf you want. it is notice, from which,
it states need to refine search.

so maybe you need to try looking for something similar, but by different
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Can't remove package from update manager

2010-10-19 Thread Silent-Hunter

  I installed a package that I downloaded from the Internet. Not from 
any repository. I removed it, but it still wants to update. I tried yum 
clean all, but it didn't work. Please help?
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Re: Can't remove package from update manager

2010-10-19 Thread Ed Greshko
 On 10/20/2010 08:58 AM, Silent-Hunter wrote:
   I installed a package that I downloaded from the Internet. Not from 
 any repository. I removed it, but it still wants to update. I tried yum 
 clean all, but it didn't work. Please help?
What was the name of the package you installed? 

If you do an rpm -q name-of-package does it show installed?

How did you uninstall it?

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Re: Can't remove package from update manager

2010-10-19 Thread JD
  On 10/19/2010 05:58 PM, Silent-Hunter wrote:
I installed a package that I downloaded from the Internet. Not from
 any repository. I removed it, but it still wants to update. I tried yum
 clean all, but it didn't work. Please help?
What was the package name?
Let's say the package name is SomePkg-1.2.3.fc13.i686

Run

sudo yum erase SomePkg

after that do

yum list installed 'SomePkg*'

If not found, then run

yum check to see which packages have missing
dependencies, and what those dependencies are.
It could very well tell you which package(s) need
that SomePkg.


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Re: flush kernel thread pops up every 10 seconds or so on FC13 and video decoding grinds to a halt for 1/2 a second

2010-10-19 Thread Aleksey Tsalolikhin
More data:  this happens about every 5-20 seconds.

It's a hexacore machine.

We tried Fedora 14 beta but still seeing the glitch in the decoding
when flush runs every 5-20 seconds.

Any suggestions?

Best,
-at


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atsaloli.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi. A friend of mine was doing real-time video decoding on
 Fedora Core 13 and he had a performance glitch (1/2 a second
 freeze) every 5-10 seconds.  top showed flush-253:0
 process at the moment of the freeze.

 Major device number 253 corresponds to device-mapper.  I advised my
 friend to re-install his FC13 without LVM, to see if the glitch
 is related to LVM.

 After re-installing FC13 without LVM, he is seeing the glitch
 every 10 seconds, and it shows flush-8:16 where before it said
 flush-253:0.  8 is scsi disk driver. So it's not an LVM thing...
 maybe a kernel thing?

 I suggested he try Fedora 14 beta, as it has a newer kernel.
 Maybe this kernel thing is fixed in the newer kernel.

 BTW, he also tried CentOS 5.5, and saw a pdflush process popping
 up with the same frequency, and resulting in a similar glitch.

 Any other suggestions?

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Kmess massive Faliure

2010-10-19 Thread Manuel Escudero
Attention!!

Kmess 2.0.3 and 2.0.4 are having massive faliures all around the world,
at least in this week I've noticed other 4 faliure cases beside mine here at
México
in different distributions, different architechtures and different desktop
enviroments.

For the moment I'm using emesene, but this kind of faliure seems very
strange.

Hope someone fixes it.

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Re: Wine, pulseaudio, Starcraft problems

2010-10-19 Thread Reid Rivenburgh
To follow up, I did manage to get wine to use alsa (it's important to
install the i686 packages as well as x86_64), but it's still running
very slowly for me.  So I have sound in the game but still just a few
( 5) frames per second.  I'm pretty sure pulseaudio is out of the
equation now, so I'm not sure what else could be wrong.  Even with
alsa, the audio is a little choppy.  At least it's playable and the
sound never cuts out.  (It's the same with a different account, by the
way.)

Thanks for the ideas.

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Wireless problems with NetworkManager upgrade

2010-10-19 Thread Steven Stern
Today's NetworkManager upgrade breaks my WPA wireless connection
(wlan0). I can stay connected for just a couple of minutes. Restarting
NetworkManager temporarily restores the connection, but it doesn't last.

I seem to have things back in order after downgrading:

  yum downgrade NetworkManager NetworkManager-glib NetworkManager-gnome


Update installed this:

Oct 19 12:17:55 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-glib-0.8.1-8.git20100831.fc13.i686
Oct 19 12:18:39 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.1-8.git20100831.fc13.i686
Oct 19 12:18:50 Updated:
1:NetworkManager-gnome-0.8.1-8.git20100831.fc13.i686

Downgrade installed this:

Oct 19 22:32:49 Installed:
1:NetworkManager-glib-0.8.1-0.1.git20100510.fc13.i686
Oct 19 22:32:53 Installed: 1:NetworkManager-0.8.1-0.1.git20100510.fc13.i686
Oct 1

Log entries at the time it lost the network

Oct 19 22:28:52 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info (wlan0):
supplicant connection state:  disconnected - scanning
Oct 19 22:28:53 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info (wlan0):
supplicant connection state:  scanning - associating
Oct 19 22:28:55 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info (wlan0): roamed
from BSSID 00:15:E9:14:FE:A8 (Bandit) to (none) ((none))
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info (wlan0): device
state change: 8 - 3 (reason 11)
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info (wlan0):
deactivating device (reason: 11).
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk avahi-daemon[1187]: Withdrawing address record
for 192.168.123.10 on wlan0.
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk avahi-daemon[1187]: Leaving mDNS multicast
group on interface wlan0.IPv4 with address 192.168.123.10.
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk avahi-daemon[1187]: Interface wlan0.IPv4 no
longer relevant for mDNS.
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Updating
/etc/hosts with new system hostname
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation (wlan0)
starting connection 'Bandit'
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info (wlan0): device
state change: 3 - 4 (reason 0)
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info (wlan0):
supplicant connection state:  associating - disconnected
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info (wlan0): device
state change: 4 - 5 (reason 0)
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation
(wlan0/wireless): access point 'Bandit' has security, but secrets are
required.
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info (wlan0): device
state change: 5 - 6 (reason 0)
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info (wlan0): device
state change: 6 - 4 (reason 0)
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info (wlan0): device
state change: 4 - 5 (reason 0)
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation
(wlan0/wireless): connection 'Bandit' has security, and secrets exist.
No new secrets needed.
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Config: added
'ssid' value 'Bandit'
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Config: added
'scan_ssid' value '1'
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Config: added
'key_mgmt' value 'WPA-PSK'
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Config: added
'psk' value 'omitted'
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Config: added
'proto' value 'WPA RSN'
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Activation (wlan0)
Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info Config: set
interface ap_scan to 1
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk nm-dispatcher.action: nm_dispatcher_action:
Invalid connection: '(null)' / 'connection setting not found' invalid: 1
Oct 19 22:29:08 sds-desk NetworkManager[1178]: info (wlan0):
supplicant connection state:  disconnected - scanning
Oct 19 22:29:09 sds-desk 

Re: Pulseaudio 40% of CPU

2010-10-19 Thread john wendel
On 10/19/2010 09:48 AM, JD wrote:
On 10/19/2010 01:35 AM, Hiisi wrote:
 2010/10/19 JDjd1...@gmail.com:
I played one video on youtube, then
 killed the youtube browser tab.
 --SNIP--... I have to always
 kill pulseaudio so I can get some response back.

 Actually not answering your question, but just wanted to confirm this
 problem on my system (2.6.32.21-168.fc12.i686). I often have to do the
 same!
 In my opinion 'flash' is an ugly thing. And, to be honest, I'm the one
 among those whom to blame for its wide usage. I was working nearly for
 5 years as a part-time teacher at school, teaching schoolboys to use
 flash in web-projects. Now I do not know how to atone for my sins :-)
 Looking forward for html5 video support in FireFox. Hope it became
 video-standard some day...
 But pulseaudio is not part of the flash plugin from Adobe.
 It is a separate Fedora released package.
 Flash, which has finished playing and the Firefox
 tab in whichit played is killed, does not explain why
 pulseaudio continue to eat 40% of cpu, probably in
 tight do nothing loop.


Try strace -p pid-of-pulseaudio, maybe it will show something.

John

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Re: Can't remove package from update manager

2010-10-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 17:58 -0700, Silent-Hunter wrote:
 I installed a package that I downloaded from the Internet. Not from 
 any repository. I removed it, but it still wants to update. I tried yum 
 clean all, but it didn't work. Please help?

You seem to have asked the same question a day ago, and got several
answers. Didn't they work?

poc

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