Re: [389-users] Questions about groups and group IDs

2011-01-09 Thread Carsten Grzemba
Do you mean that is missing in the admin console for the groups the extension 
for the Posix attributes?
I have developed an editor extension for the Posix group attributes and can 
make this available to the 389 project.
With this extension you can assign a group the gidnumber and the memberuid's.


- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -
Von: harry.dev...@faa.gov
Datum: Freitag, 7. Januar 2011, 17:10
Betreff: [389-users] Questions about groups and group IDs
An: 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Cc: ted.r...@faa.gov

 
 
 We are planning out how we are going
 to move from Active Directory to 389-ds.  We can add users to our
 test environment successfully, and give the accounts the proper information
 (uid, shell, etc.).  However, 1 area that we are getting stumped at
 is groups.  In our Active Directory currently, we have several groups
 that we put our users into based on their function.  
 
 
 
 Those groups have unique group IDs.
  However, when I make a group on 389-ds, I don't have any way of specifying
 a group ID.  I can make a new user and give it a group ID by default,
 but that group ID doesn't exist anywhere and I can't find where to assign
 it or create it.  Any ideas on this?
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Harry
 
 
 
 Harry Devine
 
 Common ARTS Software Development
 
 AJT-144
 
 (609)485-4218
 
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Re: Printing directly on DVD

2011-01-09 Thread Darr
 Question: for Epson Artisan 810, what is the tray type?
 1 or 2? Where might I go to find that out?

Almost-certainly it's type 2.

Type 1 dimensions appear to be for older wide carriage printers, and my 
R1800 uses the same tray as my R800.

CUPS prints to CD/DVD fine on both, connected to a DLink DPR-1260 print 
server here, by the way.

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Re: confused for booting security

2011-01-09 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 13:32 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote:
 which are just below the name of the OS in
 the /boot/grub/grub.conf file):-
  
 password --md5 $1$X58Kw/$v71Qlprzt8f4U9uOu46nk0
 lock
  
 and after that I press 'b' to boot without entering the encrypted
 password during the booting time.
  
 If this is the case, anyone can press 'e' and then remove those two
 line and then 'b' to boot without ever entering the encrypted
 passwords, then what would be the purpose of encrypting that? It would
 be okay for trespassers too!

In the grub.conf file, when there's a password and lock command above
all the boot choices, they'll need to enter the password before they can
do anything (pick a choice, temporarily edit what grub will do).  It's
where you place the lock command that's important, in this case.  Like
in this example:

#boot=/dev/sda
default=0
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
password --md5 $supercalifragilistic.
lock

title Fedora (2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 ro 
root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686.img

title Fedora (2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 ro 
root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686.img

title Memtest86+ (2.11)
lock
root (hd0,1)
kernel --type=netbsd /elf-memtest86+-2.11


When the lock or password commands are in the boot stanzas, then the
password will only apply to those boot choices.  If there's some other
unlocked choice, they can get into the command line.

#boot=/dev/sda
default=0
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
password --md5 $supercalifragilistic.

title Fedora (2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686)
lock
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 ro 
root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686.img

title Fedora (2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686)
lock
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 ro 
root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686.img

title Memtest86+ (2.11)
root (hd0,1)
kernel --type=netbsd /elf-memtest86+-2.11

The above example, anyone can pick options from the boot menu.  Though
they'll need to type in a password for the first two to work, the last
one doesn't need a password.  They can go into it, erase the command
lines, type in any command (including ones that will let them boot).

Note that if they can boot the computer by some other way, such as
insert a CD-ROM or floppy, then they can bypass this grub configuration,
completely.  So you want to turn off other boot choices in your BIOS.

Likewise, if they pull the drive out and plug it into another computer
of their own, they can rewrite the grub.conf file without any
passswords.

So, this only stops someone sneaking in by sitting at your computer
keyboard.  If you really need to secure the computer, you have to do
other things.

e.g. Encrypt the entire contents that you put on the drive.  Fedora
supports this.  Of course, you'll need to type in a password each time
you boot.  And it really should be a different password than you've used
anywhere else.  So nobody can break in because they've found a way to
snoop on you sending your email password, for instance.

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Re: Problem with Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-4000 - gnomeradio

2011-01-09 Thread Jens Hektor
Jon Ingason wrote:

 I have tryed radio from the XawTV and fmscan from fmtools without any
 results. Wander if some have had luck with the radio part of this card?

Same here. Analog radio for this card seems to be broken
in the fedora kernel (FC 14).

dmesg shows that it is recognized:


[   10.278270] tveeprom 0-0050: has radio, has IR receiver, has no IR 
transmitter
[   11.110628] cx88[0]/0: registered device radio0


But none of the readio related tools does find a station.

There card is fine with analog radio under windows so it must be
a kernel issue I guess.


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Re: FIXED Compiling Games Program

2011-01-09 Thread jdow
From: Jim binary...@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, 2011/January/06 11:05


 On 01/06/2011 01:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 01/06/2011 09:59 AM, Jim wrote:
 So the little birdie told me to look in the Fedora repo and Wa-La
 If you're going to use a french word, spell it right: viola!
 You mean you don't know American slang.
 You must a young person, you should give up being a English Teacher on 
 the Internet.
 We older people have learn many words and ways to say them in our life 
 time, I know that does not meet with your approval, that's why I  
 suggested you give up being a English teacher on the Internet.

snicker The thought of Joe being young is PURELY relative. At my age
he might be. But he's not a kid just out of grammar school by just a few
more decades than he may want to remember. He's also been mucking around
computers just a whole long time. He is also quite reasonably literate.
On the whole he's a good fellow to know. {^_-}

If Wa-La crept in through the transom sometime in the last decade or
so I suppose Joe and I might have missed it. Viola is the French from
which such a hypothetical Americanism would have sprung.

IMAO you are a quite objectionable young child who needs to learn to
respect his elders and betters. Consider this a spanking delivered on
account.

{^_^}
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Re: FIXED Compiling Games Program

2011-01-09 Thread jdow
From: Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2011/January/06 11:26


 On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 14:05 -0500, Jim wrote:
 On 01/06/2011 01:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
  On 01/06/2011 09:59 AM, Jim wrote:
  So the little birdie told me to look in the Fedora repo and Wa-La
  If you're going to use a french word, spell it right: viola!
 You mean you don't know American slang.
 You must a young person, you should give up being a English Teacher on 
 the Internet.
 We older people have learn many words and ways to say them in our life 
 time, I know that does not meet with your approval, that's why I  
 suggested you give up being a English teacher on the Internet.
 
 have learn? Really? If you're going to complain about being taken to
 task, at least read over your reply before sending it.
 
 poc (born 1949 if you think age is relevant to this)

Youngster.

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Re: FIXED Compiling Games Program

2011-01-09 Thread jdow
From: les hlhow...@pacbell.net
Sent: Thursday, 2011/January/06 04:03


 On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:45 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 01/06/2011 09:59 AM, Jim wrote:
  So the little birdie told me to look in the Fedora repo and Wa-La
 
 If you're going to use a french word, spell it right: viola!
 
 do you mean voila?

Yes, voila is closer to the correct spelling. However, the intentional
spelling error has been around since WW-II I believe. I certainly ran
into it as a child. And that IS an Americanism as opposed to Wa-La.

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I have problem with configuration network on fedora 14 and phpmyadmin

2011-01-09 Thread e...@r Rodolfo
Hi guys :), i am using server web with apache, mysql and phpmyadmin as
front-end, with local host it is running, but with ip i can't see the
web 192.168.1.10/phpmyadmin, only with 127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin, in
/etc/phpMyadmin/config.inc.php i changed localhost by
ip(192.168.1.10), but i can't see 127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin, returned to
localhost and it is correct, in /etc/hosts i have:
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
192.168.1.10 fedora.org fedora

in /etc/sysconfig/network
 i put in hosts fedora.org

i want to access of other pc of my network to phpmyadmin..., what is
the correct configuration?
my friend can you help me?, thank!!!

edg...@r
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Re: Problem with Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-4000 - gnomeradio

2011-01-09 Thread Jens Hektor
A closer look reveals, that the radio tuner type is not recognized:

[9.519398] cx88[0]: TV tuner type 63, Radio tuner type -1

[   10.278262] tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is Philips FMD1216MEX (idx 133, 
type 78)
[   10.330787] tuner-simple 0-0061: creating new instance
[   10.330790] tuner-simple 0-0061: type set to 78 (Philips FMD1216MEX MK3 
Hybrid Tuner)
[   11.391463] tuner-simple 0-0061: attaching existing instance
[   11.391466] tuner-simple 0-0061: couldn't set type to 63. Using 78 (Philips 
FMD1216MEX MK3 Hybrid Tuner) instead

Any suggestions what to do?

Am 09.01.2011 10:43, schrieb Jens Hektor:
 Jon Ingason wrote:
 
 I have tryed radio from the XawTV and fmscan from fmtools without any
 results. Wander if some have had luck with the radio part of this card?
 
 Same here. Analog radio for this card seems to be broken
 in the fedora kernel (FC 14).
 
 dmesg shows that it is recognized:
 
 
 [   10.278270] tveeprom 0-0050: has radio, has IR receiver, has no IR 
 transmitter
 [   11.110628] cx88[0]/0: registered device radio0
 
 
 But none of the readio related tools does find a station.
 
 There card is fine with analog radio under windows so it must be
 a kernel issue I guess.
 
 
 

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Re: confused for booting security

2011-01-09 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 19:34 +1030, Tim wrote:
 In the grub.conf file, when there's a password and lock command above
 all the boot choices, they'll need to enter the password before they
 can do anything (pick a choice, temporarily edit what grub will do).
 It's where you place the lock command that's important, in this case.
 Like in this example:

Correction:  A password in the opening section does lock out interactive
use of grub.  They can still pick items from the menu, but that's all.
They can't get into the command line.

See the info file for grub.

e.g. info grub

Or, pinfo grub instead, which gives you a coloured interactive pager,
where it's more obvious where the links are in the information.

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Re: confused for booting security

2011-01-09 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:

#boot=/dev/sda
 default=0
 timeout=5
 splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
 password --md5 $supercalifragilistic.

 title Fedora (2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686)
lock
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 ro
 root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686.img

 title Fedora (2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686)
lock
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 ro
 root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 quiet
initrd /initrd-2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686.img

 title Memtest86+ (2.11)
root (hd0,1)
kernel --type=netbsd /elf-memtest86+-2.11



Okay you have kept the password line at the top, so in the boot sequence one
has to enter that password for the first two titles (for two Fedora kernels)
but for the last title (here Memtest86+), there is not encrypted password.
If we want to use the same password for this too, we can insert the 'lock'
command just after the line

title Memtest86+ (2.11)

so that the same encrypted password would be required for this to boot. But
if a different password is required, we should enter it above the line

title Memtest86+ (2.11)

so that it looks:

password --md5 $differentpassword

title Memtest86+ (2.11)
   lock
   root (hd0,1)
   kernel --type=netbsd /elf-memtest86+-2.11

so that while editing grub through remote place, it is at all not possible
without entering the password because the password --md5 line is above the
title line.

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Re: NetworkManager won't become active

2011-01-09 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Jan  8 19:48, Alex wrote:
 Hi,
 
  Jan  8 17:56:08 alex NetworkManager[18096]:    ifcfg-rh: parsing
  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0 ...
  Jan  8 17:56:08 alex NetworkManager[18096]:    ifcfg-rh:     error:
  Bridge connections are not yet supported
 
  Has it worked before with network-manager?
  I think you should try to work with network service instead
 
 Yes, it has worked before. The problem is that firefox (at least,
 likely other apps too) starts in offline mode unless it detects
 NetworkManager in some way as being active.

You can change that in Firefox itself.  Open the about:config URL
and set toolkit.networkmanager.disable to true.


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Re: confused for booting security

2011-01-09 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 11:56 +0100, Parshwa Murdia wrote:
 But if a different password is required, we should enter it above the
 line
  
 title Memtest86+ (2.11)
  
 so that it looks:
  
 password --md5 $differentpassword
  
 title Memtest86+ (2.11)
lock
root (hd0,1)
kernel --type=netbsd /elf-memtest86+-2.11
  
 so that while editing grub through remote place, it is at all not
 possible without entering the password because the password --md5 line
 is above the title line.

I'm fairly sure that you'll have to put the password within the stanza.
It's certainly the expected method, but I can't test whether it's
actually required, unless I reboot at the moment.  And I don't want to
reboot.  I'd expect anything in the middle of them to be presumed to
belong to the end of the previous stanza.

i.e.  I expect it to be done like this:

title Memtest86+ (2.11)
   password --md5 $differentpassword
   lock
   root (hd0,1)
   kernel --type=netbsd /elf-memtest86+-2.11

Options for stanzas are read from within them, top to bottom.  In this
case, the first one sets the password, the second line halts further
processing until the password is entered.  Once entered, it would
process the next two commands.


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.xsession-error file getting large?

2011-01-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
Found that .xsession-error file had somehow grown to over 2GB. 
Found a large number of lines linked to Package kit update applet, so have 
disable it. 

Noticed that used space on / had gone from normal 14GB used size to 
16GB. Didn't quickly find where the space was until using the option to list 
the . files. Haven't noticed this in the past, so wondering if others have seen 
this?

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Re: .xsession-error file getting large?

2011-01-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 23:21 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: 
 Found that .xsession-error file had somehow grown to over 2GB. 
 Found a large number of lines linked to Package kit update applet, so have 
 disable it. 
 
 Noticed that used space on / had gone from normal 14GB used size to 
 16GB. Didn't quickly find where the space was until using the option to list 
 the . files. Haven't noticed this in the past, so wondering if others have 
 seen 
 this?

Mine is under 1MB. You may have a problem with your X configuration
and .xsession-errors is trying to tell you about it.

poc

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Re: FIXED Compiling Games Program

2011-01-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 02:32 -0800, jdow wrote: 
 From: les hlhow...@pacbell.net
 Sent: Thursday, 2011/January/06 04:03
 
 
  On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:45 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
  On 01/06/2011 09:59 AM, Jim wrote:
   So the little birdie told me to look in the Fedora repo and Wa-La
  
  If you're going to use a french word, spell it right: viola!
  
  do you mean voila?
 
 Yes, voila is closer to the correct spelling. However, the intentional
 spelling error has been around since WW-II I believe. I certainly ran
 into it as a child. And that IS an Americanism as opposed to Wa-La.

The French work is voilà. In English it's often written voila, which is
accepted as loan words often lose diacriticals. Writing it as viola
makes no sense whatever as a) it would significantly change the
pronunciation and b) it clashes with another loan word from Italian,
i.e. the musical instrument. If I write thier for their, it's obviously
a typo. Same here; it's obviously a typo and people are going to point
it out.

As to the argument that this is meant humourously (or humorously :-)
bear in mind that this list is not exclusively American, in fact I'd
guesstimate that a large proportion of posters are not American (e.g.
I'm not). Using a deliberate spelling error known only to (some)
Americans when attempting to correct another error is likely to prove
confusing, which indeed it has.

Time for my nap :-)

poc

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Re: .xsession-error file getting large?

2011-01-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 9 Jan 2011 at 9:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

Subject:Re: .xsession-error file getting large?
From:   Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Date sent:  Sun, 09 Jan 2011 09:27:54 -0430

 On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 23:21 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: 
  Found that .xsession-error file had somehow grown to over 2GB. 
  Found a large number of lines linked to Package kit update applet, so have 
  disable it. 
  
  Noticed that used space on / had gone from normal 14GB used size to 
  16GB. Didn't quickly find where the space was until using the option to 
  list 
  the . files. Haven't noticed this in the past, so wondering if others have 
  seen 
  this?
 
 Mine is under 1MB. You may have a problem with your X configuration
 and .xsession-errors is trying to tell you about it.

At the moment my .xsession-error file is 3889 bytes in size. Checked some 
other machines, and they also had the large number of lines about the gpk-
update-icon.


 
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Re: Gnome3 available in F14 to evaluate it.

2011-01-09 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 03:38 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
 On Saturday 08 January 2011 22:38:54 Genes MailLists wrote:
   Aaron Konstam wrote:
   I posted the above information now so people will have time to scream
   before the change is upon us. Some of the changes are really radical.
  
As I recall - radical changes in kde-4.0 caused many (everyone I know)
  to drop kde and move to gnome - perhaps the reverse may happen if kde is
  now decent and stable (I have no idea if it is as I stopped using it
  after the famous 3.5 - 4.0 debacle ...
 
 I kept using KDE during the switch... :-)
 
 And back in those days when people were bitching about KDE 4.0 being a 
 disaster and switching to Gnome, I did point out that Gnome is about to go 
 through a similar radical change some time in the future, and that people 
 will 
 repeat all the bitching again, but now the other way around, and switch to 
 KDE. I guess the time is near. ;-)
 
 Btw, the latest KDE 4.5.4 is extremely stable, decent and slick. If 4.0 is 
 what you remember, this is a whole new game... :-) I can recommend it. There 
 is even a Live CD, try it out and see for yourself.

I admit I find KDE harder to use then GNOME. To me Gnome3 captures some of the 
obscurity
 I find in KDE,

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Warning about Gnome Shell

2011-01-09 Thread Aaron Konstam
If you logout or shutdown while in in Gnome Shell your menus under
Applications in Gnome will be changed. So to fix this you be out of Gnme
Shell when you logoff, and then login again.
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Re: Kororaa Lite beta released

2011-01-09 Thread Beartooth
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:32:07 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote:

 On Thursday, January 06, 2011 04:19:08 pm Beartooth wrote:
 On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 09:22:16 +1100, Chris Smart wrote:
 
  Haha, well at least you gave it a shot!!  :-)
 
  I'll do a bunch more, once I hear it has Gnome.
 
 Now why would a KDE-based respin want to include GNOME? :-)  There is a
 similar GNOME respin called Omega; perhaps that would be a better fit.

Are they really that similar?? I do run Omega, on an EeePC; and 
unless I'm hallucinating, there was talk on this list -- including Rahul 
Sundaram -- of porting Kororaa to Gnome.

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Re: Quantifying X performance

2011-01-09 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 01/07/2011 11:10 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
 Ian Pilcher wrote:
 Does it work with the open source driver?  I'm getting this on Fedora
 14:

 Most likely not:

 GL_ARB_half_float_pixel is not supported

 You can try their older Sanctuary benchmark, too.

 Same result with Sanctuary.

 So back to the original question.  How can I quantify the (perceived)
 performance regression from Fedora 13 to Fedora 14?

To stop glxgears from syncing to refresh try it this way:

# vblank_mode=0 glxgears

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Re: Warning about Gnome Shell

2011-01-09 Thread James Mckenzie
Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

If you logout or shutdown while in in Gnome Shell your menus under
Applications in Gnome will be changed. So to fix this you be out of Gnme
Shell when you logoff, and then login again.

Never had this happen in the many years of using Gnome.  What specifically is 
happening to your system?

Please provide details on your computer, CPU, memory, bitness, video card and 
memory (and if it is out of the memory pool, or on the card.)

James McKenzie

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Re: Warning about Gnome Shell

2011-01-09 Thread Hiisi
su, 2011-01-09 kello 08:50 -0700, James Mckenzie kirjoitti:
 ever had this happen in the many years of using Gnome.  What
 specifically is happening to your system?

He was talking about Gnome 3 preview he's using on his system.
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Re: hard freezes on f14

2011-01-09 Thread Genes MailLists
On 01/09/2011 02:13 AM, Hiisi wrote:

 I saw similar behavior on my girlfriend' acer 5102 laptop. It was
 running ubuntu. Both smart tests were OK and no strange messages neither
 in /var/log/messages nor in Xorg.*.log. Before I could investigate that
 case any deeper a southbridge on the laptop motherboard has died... It
 seems that the reason was its overheating.

  Yes I've seen similar with hardware problems too - the laptop was
largely sitting idle and temps are normal - no screen or keyboard
activity - and only mail and browser up (plus a fw inactive terminals).

   g/
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Re: Kororaa Lite beta released

2011-01-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Beartooth bearto...@comcast.net wrote:



 Are they really that similar?? I do run Omega, on an EeePC; and
 unless I'm hallucinating, there was talk on this list -- including Rahul
 Sundaram -- of porting Kororaa to Gnome.


I don't think there is any porting involved.  Omega is fairly similar to
Kororaa as it currently stands since the latter is inspired by the former.

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Re: confused for booting security

2011-01-09 Thread Genes MailLists
On 01/09/2011 06:56 AM, Tim wrote:

  
 password --md5 $differentpassword
  


   Is -md5 documented ? When I check info grub I see

 password --encrypted password-enc

 where grub-crypt is suggested to be used to encrypt.

 grub-crypt indeed has an md5 option tho sha-512 seems to be the default.

 (f14).

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Re: Warning about Gnome Shell

2011-01-09 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/09/2011 08:53 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 If you logout or shutdown while in in Gnome Shell your menus under
 Applications in Gnome will be changed. So to fix this you be out of Gnme
 Shell when you logoff, and then login again.

Before using gnome-shell, make a copy of ~/.config/menus

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java problem

2011-01-09 Thread Parshwa Murdia
hi,

I have installed the java (by searching at the net) and just did as
directed. As follows:

[u...@localhost ~]$usr/sbin/alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java
/opt/jre1.6.0_20/bin/java 2

[u...@localhost ~]$su -c '/sbin/ldconfig'

Then I downloaded jre-6u23-linux-i586.bin from the page:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html

Now did as follows:


[r...@localhost ~]# cd /opt (after becoming root)

[r...@localhost ~]# sh /home/user/Download/jre-6u23-linux-i586.bin
[r...@localhost ~]# ln -s
/opt/jre1.6.0_23/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[r...@localhost ~]# gedit /etc/profile.d/java.sh

In the above file, copied the following two lines:

export JAVA_HOME=/opt/jre1.6.0_23
export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH

then,

[r...@localhost ~]# source /etc/profile.d/java.sh
[r...@localhost ~]# /usr/sbin/alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java
/opt/jre1.6.0_23/bin/java 2
[r...@localhost ~]# /usr/sbin/alternatives --config java

Entered the value of 2 (indication of choice second)
[r...@localhost ~]# /usr/sbin/alternatives --display java
[r...@localhost ~]# reboot

But the problem is that it is not showing any picture or verification that
java has been installed:

http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml (This link is not verifying
that java has been installed).
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Re: java problem

2011-01-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/09/2011 09:23 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:
 But the problem is that it is not showing any picture or verification
 that java has been installed:

 http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml (This link is not
 verifying that java has been installed).

Have you tried the three suggestions on the page?
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Re: .xsession-error file getting large?

2011-01-09 Thread Paolo Galtieri
On 01/09/11 07:28, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
 On 9 Jan 2011 at 9:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 Subject:  Re: .xsession-error file getting large?
 From: Patrick O'Callaghanpocallag...@gmail.com
 To:   users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Date sent:Sun, 09 Jan 2011 09:27:54 -0430

 On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 23:21 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
 Found that .xsession-error file had somehow grown to over 2GB.
 Found a large number of lines linked to Package kit update applet, so have
 disable it.

 Noticed that used space on / had gone from normal 14GB used size to
 16GB. Didn't quickly find where the space was until using the option to list
 the . files. Haven't noticed this in the past, so wondering if others have 
 seen
 this?

 Mine is under 1MB. You may have a problem with your X configuration
 and .xsession-errors is trying to tell you about it.

 At the moment my .xsession-error file is 3889 bytes in size. Checked some
 other machines, and they also had the large number of lines about the gpk-
 update-icon.



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my .xsession-errors file is 14157 lines long of which 13571 lines are 
debug messages from gpk-update-icon.

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Re: Gnome3 available in F14 to evaluate it.

2011-01-09 Thread suvayu ali
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Mark Eggers mdegg...@gmail.com wrote:
 spend most of my time in either
 WindowManager (for performance) or KDE (for eye candy).

Do you mean WindowMaker? I find it is very efficient and light weight
too. But I don't like the window decorations, you can't resize a
window from any of the window borders. You need to use the lower right
corner only. Too OS X like for me. :-/ If only there was a way to use
GTK+ window decorations with WindowMaker ...

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Re: Kororaa Lite beta released

2011-01-09 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:39:11 +0800, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
[]
 I don't think there is any porting involved.  Omega is fairly similar
 to Kororaa as it currently stands since the latter is inspired by the
 former.

OK, fine. I couldn't lay my hand on the medium I installed Omega 
to my EeePC from, so I'm in process of downloading another (more recent, 
anyway).

General question: If a respin, running from a live medium, does 
better at configuring itself to use my monitor than installed F14 does 
(or does any more; it used to), is there a way to install it to hard 
drive without losing my data? 

At least three respins (F14 Live, Fusion and Kororaa) on two PCs 
have been making distinctly better (though, in one case, imperfect) use 
of my monitor -- and I have spent great time and effort of helpful people 
here, not to mention my own, without doing as well. F14 Live and Fusion 
are running right now.

Can I just tell either or both Install to Hard Drive and expect 
to get the upgrade option that I would from a full install medium? Or is 
there a way to get it?

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Repairs using Live Media??

2011-01-09 Thread Beartooth

I have live media running respins of F14 on machines where F14 is 
installed, and doing better with my monitor than the hard drive has been 
doing.  (One is currently running the Fusion release candidate; the other 
has the plain F14 Live.)

I want to figure out what is different, and edit the 
corresponding file on the hard drive to match. 

But for some reason, I can't seem to remember nor reconstruct any 
way to get to the hard drive. What am I not seeing??

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Re: Kororaa Lite beta released

2011-01-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Beartooth bearto...@comcast.net wrote:

Can I just tell either or both Install to Hard Drive and expect
 to get the upgrade option that I would from a full install medium?


I believe the post installation experience should be the same as the one you
get in the live environment.  That's the whole point of it.

Rahul
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Re: confused for booting security

2011-01-09 Thread Tim
Parshwa Murdia:
 password --md5 $differentpassword

Genes MailLists:
Is -md5 documented ? When I check info grub I see
 
  password --encrypted password-enc
 
  where grub-crypt is suggested to be used to encrypt.
 
  grub-crypt indeed has an md5 option tho sha-512 seems to be the default.

Yes, it is documented, but I'm still on the out-of-date Fedora 9, at the
moment.  Its info file had this to say:


13.2.10 password


 -- Command: password [`--md5'] passwd [new-config-file]
 If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all
 interactive editing control (menu entry editor and command-line)
 and entries protected by the command `lock'. If the password
 PASSWD is entered, it loads the NEW-CONFIG-FILE as a new config
 file and restarts the GRUB Stage 2, if NEW-CONFIG-FILE is
 specified. Otherwise, GRUB will just unlock the privileged
 instructions.  You can also use this command in the script
 section, in which case it will ask for the password, before
 continuing.  The option `--md5' tells GRUB that PASSWD is
 encrypted with `md5crypt' (*note md5crypt::).


So it looks like the old default was probably md5, with a planned option
to support other schemes, but not yet implemented.

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Re: Repairs using Live Media??

2011-01-09 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 18:49 +, Beartooth wrote:
 I have live media running respins of F14 on machines where F14
 is installed, and doing better with my monitor than the hard drive has
 been doing.  (One is currently running the Fusion release candidate;
 the other has the plain F14 Live.)
  
 I want to figure out what is different, and edit the 
 corresponding file on the hard drive to match. 
  
 But for some reason, I can't seem to remember nor reconstruct
 any way to get to the hard drive. What am I not seeing??

Mount a hard drive partition, copy the currently working xorg.conf file
to it, then use it as a template when you reboot from your hard drive
installation.

Hint:  mount /dev/sd-whatever /mnt

Don't actually have an xorg.conf file?  Try making X create one.

Alternatively, copy the xorg log files from the live session to your
hard drive, so you can compare them.

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kde4 vs gnome ... stick with gnome for now

2011-01-09 Thread Genes MailLists

  I am an ex kde 3.5 user - I switched to gnome after the 4.0 mess ...

  With the impending advent of gnome-shell - I decided to take a look at
kde4 again on f14 - after a brief revisit I found it to be a
look-dont-touch GUI ... :-(

  In my opinion - it suffers the same basic flaws that made many of us
leave in the first place unfortunately.

  Here's a couple things that perhaps are doable just not obvious.

  I started with a fresh kde login - I created a new panel on top in
which to add the set of things I commonly use.

  (1) Adding an app to panel which isn't in kde menu not possible.

   (e.g. user apps - things i need for work, whatever)

  (2) Moving App icon in panel where you want it - not possible

 (a) not obvious - basic UI flaw - middle click etc dont work.

 (b) if you click panel settings and then you can move icon

 However the icon springs back to the side afterwards so you cannot
place it where you want it as it doesn't stay where i put it.

  (3) virtual desktops widget - the grouping of things by name -
terminal in my case - still doesn't work - this was reported way back in
kde 4.0 - still doesn't work.


  Perhaps they can be done - but was not obvious - it didn't crash on me
- just found the UI to be 2/10 (kde 3 was a 8/10). gnome is 6/10 and
gnome shell i have not explored yet.

  I'm open still and perhaps I need to invest a lot more time, but for
now I'm definitely back in gnome ...

  gene






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Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t

2011-01-09 Thread CS DBA
Hi all;

I'm thinking about buying a Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t and running Fedora14 
on it. Anyone know if it's compatible? Web searches seem to indicate 
that the wireless may be an issue. Any thoughts on if Fedora14 works 
well with this card:

BCM 4313 BGN Wireless


Thanks in advance...

/Kevin
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Re: confused for booting security

2011-01-09 Thread Genes MailLists
On 01/09/2011 02:18 PM, Tim wrote:

 13.2.10 password
 
 
  -- Command: password [`--md5'] passwd [new-config-file]

 


 Well it seems to have changed in F14 which is different.

 ...
Thus, GRUB provides a password feature, so that only administrators
can start the interactive operations (i.e. editing menu entries and
entering the command-line interface). To use this feature, you need to
run the command `password' in your configuration file (*note
password::), like this:

 password --encrypted PASSWORD

   If this is specified, GRUB disallows any interactive control, until
you press the key p and enter a correct password.  The option
`--encrypted' tells GRUB that `PASSWORD' is encrypted format.  If it is
omitted, GRUB assumes the `PASSWORD' is in clear text.

   You can encrypt your password with the program `grub-crypt' (*note
Invoking grub-crypt::). Then, cut and paste the encrypted password to
your configuration file.

 ...

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Re: .xsession-error file getting large?

2011-01-09 Thread john wendel
On 01/09/2011 10:26 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
 On 01/09/11 07:28, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
 On 9 Jan 2011 at 9:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 Subject: Re: .xsession-error file getting large?
 From:Patrick O'Callaghanpocallag...@gmail.com
 To:  users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Date sent:   Sun, 09 Jan 2011 09:27:54 -0430

 On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 23:21 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
 Found that .xsession-error file had somehow grown to over 2GB.
 Found a large number of lines linked to Package kit update applet, so have
 disable it.

 Noticed that used space on / had gone from normal 14GB used size to
 16GB. Didn't quickly find where the space was until using the option to 
 list
 the . files. Haven't noticed this in the past, so wondering if others have 
 seen
 this?

 Mine is under 1MB. You may have a problem with your X configuration
 and .xsession-errors is trying to tell you about it.

 At the moment my .xsession-error file is 3889 bytes in size. Checked some
 other machines, and they also had the large number of lines about the gpk-
 update-icon.



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 my .xsession-errors file is 14157 lines long of which 13571 lines are
 debug messages from gpk-update-icon.

 Paolo

yum remove PackageKit worked for me.

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Re: Bug in Apache .cgi AddHandler? (Was: Bugs in yum for fedora 14 ?)

2011-01-09 Thread Sjoerd

 On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:57:51 +0100, Sjoerd wrote:

 
  ftp://lingeek.nl/pub/linux/14//RPMS/x86_64/sipcalc-1.1.4-6.cgi.f14.lingeek.x86_64.rpm:
   [Errno 12] Timeout on
  ftp://lingeek.nl/pub/linux/14//RPMS/x86_64/sipcalc-1.1.4-6.cgi.f14.lingeek.x86_64.rpm:
   (28, '')
  Trying other mirror.
 
  Are you sure you don't have any bad repo definitions in other files
  or in /etc/yum.conf?

 No. I'm sure. But can you tell me why yum explicitly wants to download from 
 an ftp site while it's set up as an
 http repository.

 That's _your_ theory, and I cannot explain it nor reproduce it. ;)

 The problem looked interesting enough to run some greps on Yum's core
 source code, but in several places it searches for a prefix ftp://; or
 ftp: and doesn't seem to be dumb enough to drop a http://; prefix
 accidentally.

 It's also somewhat strange that it would be able to download the repo
 metadata (after a yum clean metadata) from the *same* http URL but fail
 only when downloading packages.


Sorry for responding late in here.

Found out that the apache server is the culprit in here.

I have enabled the option: AddHandler cgi-script .cgi

If I change the naming of that rpm to NOT include .cgi. it works. With .cgi. in 
the name it times out and I get
an error in the http-logs saying:

[Error] Options ExecCGI is off in this directory

Is this a bug in the apache rpm or is this the expected behavier?

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Partition changes while install F14

2011-01-09 Thread sdawalt

I was hoping to use anaconda's GUI interface to repartition my  
hard drive while installing F14, but I ran into a problem with  
anaconda's custom layout option.  (I currently have F9 installed.)   
After I resize the partition then re-edit the partition and choose the  
Format option, anaconda tends to forget the size I entered and resets  
it to the original size.  After playing with this a while, I chose to  
continue with installation .  This caused anaconda to throw an  
exception having to do with partition information.

I can use a character-based partitioning tool, but it's been years  
since I've used one.  Is there one that is preferred?

Shane


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Re: kde4 vs gnome ... stick with gnome for now

2011-01-09 Thread Hiisi
su, 2011-01-09 kello 14:34 -0500, Genes MailLists kirjoitti:
 I am an ex kde 3.5 user - I switched to gnome after the 4.0 mess ...
 
some strings deleted by rant detection system!

Please don't start another flame-war! As twm user I found this
discussions really interesting only when their participants accusing
each other of fascism.
 
   Here's a couple things that perhaps are doable just not obvious.
 

--snip--
 
   I'm open still and perhaps I need to invest a lot more time, but for
 now I'm definitely back in gnome ...
 
   gene
 

This should probably go to one of the following mail lists:
http://www.kde.org/support/mailinglists/

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Re: Repairs using Live Media??

2011-01-09 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 05:54:30 +1030, Tim wrote:

 On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 18:49 +, Beartooth wrote:
 I have live media running respins of F14 on machines where F14
 is installed, and doing better with my monitor than the hard drive has
 been doing.  (One is currently running the Fusion release candidate;
 the other has the plain F14 Live.)
  
 I want to figure out what is different, and edit the
 corresponding file on the hard drive to match.
  
 But for some reason, I can't seem to remember nor reconstruct
 any way to get to the hard drive. What am I not seeing??
 
 Mount a hard drive partition, copy the currently working xorg.conf file
 to it, 

Afaict, there is no current xorg.conf, period, on the hard drive 
nor on the live medium; whatever is working must be something else.

 then use it as a template when you reboot from your hard drive
 installation.

 Hint:  mount /dev/sd-whatever /mnt

That's probably the thought I'm missing. But there are only five /
dev/s-whatever files. Two are scd0-1, both symlinks of size 0; the other 
three are sda, sda1, sda2 -- all size 0.

Is it going to do any good to mount empty files??
 
 Don't actually have an xorg.conf file?  Try making X create one.

How do I do that??

And how will it help? Since none exists, doesn't that mean the 
live media are running GUIs some other way??

 Alternatively, copy the xorg log files from the live session to your
 hard drive, so you can compare them.

None exist, afaict; certainly not in /etc/X11

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Re: Partition changes while install F14

2011-01-09 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:25 PM,  sdaw...@donet.com wrote:

    I was hoping to use anaconda's GUI interface to repartition my
 hard drive while installing F14, but I ran into a problem with
 anaconda's custom layout option.  (I currently have F9 installed.)
 After I resize the partition then re-edit the partition and choose the
 Format option, anaconda tends to forget the size I entered and resets
 it to the original size.  After playing with this a while, I chose to
 continue with installation .  This caused anaconda to throw an
 exception having to do with partition information.

    I can use a character-based partitioning tool, but it's been years
 since I've used one.  Is there one that is preferred?

Another option would be to boot system rescue cd[1] or a gparted live
cd[2] and use gparted to get everything how you like it before you
boot the install disk. Keep in mind parted doesn't know how to deal
with LVM so just create a partition or keep free space available for
anaconda to do the LVM part.

Richard

[1] http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[2] http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
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Re: Warning about Gnome Shell

2011-01-09 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Steven Stern
subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote:
 On 01/09/2011 08:53 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 If you logout or shutdown while in in Gnome Shell your menus under
 Applications in Gnome will be changed. So to fix this you be out of Gnme
 Shell when you logoff, and then login again.

 Before using gnome-shell, make a copy of ~/.config/menus

It was too late for me but the more brute force method of

# rm -rf ~/.gnome2

worked to restore my menus but I didn't have anything customized.

Richard
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Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t

2011-01-09 Thread Peter Larsen
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 12:37 -0700, CS DBA wrote:
 Hi all;
 
 I'm thinking about buying a Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t and running Fedora14 
 on it. Anyone know if it's compatible? Web searches seem to indicate 
 that the wireless may be an issue. Any thoughts on if Fedora14 works 
 well with this card:
 
 BCM 4313 BGN Wireless

I have one of those and yes, Fedora runs on it. However there's a few
kinks - but not with the wireless. Mouse clicks is the largest one -
Fedora (out of the box) doesn't support the touch-pad for clicking. I
wasn't able to find a solution to that straight forward, so I have used
it with a USB mouse. 

Also, I need to find something on Fedora to run the OS as a touch-pad -
instead of having to click on things on the screen, that simply touching
areas with the finger activates things. 

I'm running MeeGo on it as primary OS right now and it works very well
actually. I know there's a MeeGo effort under Fedora right now and once
I get on the other side of January I plan to join that effort to help
getting things put together for Fedora.

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Re: Warning about Gnome Shell

2011-01-09 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 08:50 -0700, James Mckenzie wrote:
 Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 If you logout or shutdown while in in Gnome Shell your menus under
 Applications in Gnome will be changed. So to fix this you be out of Gnme
 Shell when you logoff, and then login again.
 
 Never had this happen in the many years of using Gnome.  What specifically is 
 happening to your system?
 
 Please provide details on your computer, CPU, memory, bitness, video card and 
 memory (and if it is out of the memory pool, or on the card.)
 
 James McKenzie
 
It is only when you are using Gnome Shell which has not existed for may
years. This effect is completely a function of using Gnome Shell as your
Window manager and has nothing to do with any hardware on the machine.
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Re: Warning about Gnome Shell

2011-01-09 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 09:07 -0700, James Mckenzie wrote:
 Hiisi saipp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sent: Jan 9, 2011 9:06 AM
 To: James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net, Community support for 
 Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Subject: Re: Warning about Gnome Shell
 
 su, 2011-01-09 kello 08:50 -0700, James Mckenzie kirjoitti:
  ever had this happen in the many years of using Gnome.  What
  specifically is happening to your system?
 
 He was talking about Gnome 3 preview he's using on his system.
 
 Ah, the Beta tester crying Wolf, Wolf.  Thanks for the warning, but should 
 this not go to the developers?
 
 James McKenzie
 
This is only a rough preview and as Rahul has said on the list it has
been modified somewhat in the Real Produce yet to be released.
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Re: Warning about Gnome Shell

2011-01-09 Thread Sjoerd

 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Steven Stern

 Before using gnome-shell, make a copy of ~/.config/menus

 It was too late for me but the more brute force method of

 # rm -rf ~/.gnome2

 worked to restore my menus but I didn't have anything customized.

 Richard

As Steven already pointed out. I renamed it to  ~/.config/menus.old and 
logout/login.

Everyting came back as configured by me and the default menu re-appeared ;-)

Thnks Steven for this tip.

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crontab

2011-01-09 Thread Patrick Dupre

Hello,

To have the same shell running twice a week, I am using crond and
anacron if I understand correctly. I have a file in /etc/cron.weekly 
(file.cron)

and I also schedule the same file from crontad -e.
However, it appears that I have the same file command
(/etc/cron.weekly/file.cron) started at 2 slightly different times
 started at Sun Dec 26 03:04:01 GMT 2010
and at:
started at Sun Dec 26 03:00:01 GMT 2010

according to my log files. This is a real problem.

How, can I run a cron file twice a week ?

Thank.

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Re: crontab

2011-01-09 Thread Larry Brower
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On 01/09/2011 04:44 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 Hello,
 
 To have the same shell running twice a week, I am using crond and
 anacron if I understand correctly. I have a file in /etc/cron.weekly
 (file.cron)
 and I also schedule the same file from crontad -e.
 However, it appears that I have the same file command
 (/etc/cron.weekly/file.cron) started at 2 slightly different times
  started at Sun Dec 26 03:04:01 GMT 2010
 and at:
 started at Sun Dec 26 03:00:01 GMT 2010
 
 according to my log files. This is a real problem.
 
 How, can I run a cron file twice a week ?
 
 Thank.
 

Add it to root's crontab with crontab -e

Example:

0 0 * * 0,4 /path/to/command


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Re: crontab

2011-01-09 Thread Thomas Cameron
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On 01/09/2011 04:44 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 Hello,
 
 To have the same shell running twice a week, I am using crond and
 anacron if I understand correctly. I have a file in /etc/cron.weekly
 (file.cron)
 and I also schedule the same file from crontad -e.
 However, it appears that I have the same file command
 (/etc/cron.weekly/file.cron) started at 2 slightly different times
  started at Sun Dec 26 03:04:01 GMT 2010
 and at:
 started at Sun Dec 26 03:00:01 GMT 2010
 
 according to my log files. This is a real problem.
 
 How, can I run a cron file twice a week ?
 
 Thank.
 

crontab -e creates a cron job for a user (including root).

/etc/cron.* are directories into which you drop shell scripts which run
hourly, weekly, daily, etc.  These directories are actually read for
scripts by anacron, not cron.

So if you want something to run twice a week, you can either modify
/etc/anacrontab to run some twice weekly job or create a crontab for a
user in which a job runs twice a week.

I would not use both the /etc/cron.* directories and a private crontab.
 Too confusing.

Thomas
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text mode

2011-01-09 Thread Patrick Dupre

Hello,

On a fedora 13 machine, after a recent release (around dec. 22nd), I
lost the possibility to move from the graphic mode to the text mode
by using the Atl+Ctl Fx command.
The graphic mode switch off, but no text appears.
How can I log/debug this problem ?

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Safely remove ...

2011-01-09 Thread Timothy Murphy

Why doesn't Fedora/KDE tell you that you can safely remove a USB device
when you click on the icon on the right of the little window for the device?
Is it just reluctance to follow Bill Gates?
I would have thought it was courteous to tell you that.

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Re: kde4 vs gnome ... stick with gnome for now

2011-01-09 Thread Genes MailLists
On 01/09/2011 06:53 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:

   (1) Adding an app to panel which isn't in kde menu not possible.

 
 Add it to the menu first. Right-click the kde menu icon, select menu editor, 
 do 
 an add item in a convenient position, save, close. Then go to the menu, 
 right-click your app, and select add to panel. Make sure to unlock the 
 widgets before you try to add it to the panel.

   Excellent - I will try again :-)

   Thanks for your help ...

  
   (2) Moving App icon in panel where you want it - not possible

  (a) not obvious - basic UI flaw - middle click etc dont work.
 
 Add a panel spacer (there is an add spacer button for it once you open the 
 panel settings), or many of them, and adjust their relative positions 

  Thanks again - however this really is a UI usability issue -
non-obvious is an understatement ..

   (3) virtual desktops widget - the grouping of things by name -
 terminal in my case - still doesn't work - this was reported way back in
 kde 4.0 - still doesn't work.
 

   Thank you for your help!


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Re: Gnome3 available in F14 to evaluate it.

2011-01-09 Thread Thierry Vanden Broucke
Very nice, already using as default :p

2011/1/9 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.comfatkasuvayu%2bli...@gmail.com


 On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Mark Eggers mdegg...@gmail.com wrote:
  spend most of my time in either
  WindowManager (for performance) or KDE (for eye candy).

 Do you mean WindowMaker? I find it is very efficient and light weight
 too. But I don't like the window decorations, you can't resize a
 window from any of the window borders. You need to use the lower right
 corner only. Too OS X like for me. :-/ If only there was a way to use
 GTK+ window decorations with WindowMaker ...

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Re: kde4 vs gnome ... stick with gnome for now

2011-01-09 Thread Chris Smart
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Add it to the menu first. Right-click the kde menu icon, select menu editor, 
 do
 an add item in a convenient position, save, close. Then go to the menu,
 right-click your app, and select add to panel. Make sure to unlock the
 widgets before you try to add it to the panel.

On my system, I can just browse to the directory which has the program
(or .desktop file) I want to add (like /usr/bin) and click and drag it
up onto the bar where the existing icons are (like the browser). It
makes a space and I just drop it there. Doesn't get much easier than
that, I don't think.

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Re: Safely remove ...

2011-01-09 Thread suvayu ali
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote:
 Why doesn't Fedora/KDE tell you that you can safely remove a USB device
 when you click on the icon on the right of the little window for the device?

It does on XFCE (F13), don't have anything else installed so can't check.

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Re: Safely remove ...

2011-01-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 01:00 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: 
 Why doesn't Fedora/KDE tell you that you can safely remove a USB device
 when you click on the icon on the right of the little window for the device?
 Is it just reluctance to follow Bill Gates?
 I would have thought it was courteous to tell you that.

It (briefly) shows a tick mark in the panel, but I agree this could be
done better. However note that the little box changes shape so it's also
an indicator.

poc

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Re: Partitioning questions

2011-01-09 Thread Alex
Hi,

  Doesn't RAID get wrapped in LVM, much like disk partitions get wrapped in
  RAID?
 
  If that is not the case, would you detail the steps I should follow in
  anaconda (FC14, x86_64) to create a root (RAID5), /boot (RAID1), and
  /home (RAID5) partitions on four disks with LVM?

 (1) Create a bank of RAID partitions on your disks.
 (2) Create the RAID device from the partitions.
 (3) Create the LVM physical volume on the RAID device.
 (4) Create the LVM volume group on the physical volume.
 (5) Create the various logical volumes in the volume group.

This doesn't seem to work for me. After creating the RAID devices,
attempting to create any LVM partitions of any size results in
insufficient space. What am I doing wrong? How can I create an LVM
partition on top of a RAID partition?

Given that the RAID partitions constrain the size of the partitions
anyway, , perhaps it's not even helpful to have LVM for the purposes
of resizing anyway?

Maybe my approach should instead to be to create a basic /boot RAID1
partition, then RAID5 the entire rest of the disk as one big
partition?

This reference seems to indicate the steps provided above are indeed
correct, and perhaps this is a limitation of the installer?

http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/raid-lvm.php

I can't believe it would be so difficult to create RAID partitions and
use them with LVM. Maybe they are reserving this capability for RHEL?

Thanks for any ideas.
Best regards,
Alex
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Re: Gnome3 available in F14 to evaluate it.

2011-01-09 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 12:54 +0800, Rahul Sundaram wrote: 
 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 5:27 AM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net
  wrote:
   If you know that it is possible to evaluate the GNOME3 under F14 stop
   reading here.
  
   You can get a look at Gnome3 by doing:
   yum install gnome-shell
  
   Then go to System-Preferences-Desktop Effects and choose GNOME Shell
  
   This is described in the February 2010 issue of Linux Journal in an
   article, Coming Soon to Linux Desktops, by Charles Olsen. Except he
   gives you bad advice on how to start the Gnome3 Shell.
 
 
 It is not really the GNOME 3 Shell.  It is a very early version and hasn't
 been updated in several months.  The UI has changed in major ways.  If you
 really want to test that, I recommend using Rawhide

Any chance the latest could be released for F14?  It's only preview code
after all, so maintaining consistency shouldn't count for much.

Or would the impact on other packages be too big?



 
 
  Can you suggest minimum hardware needed to run gnome-shell?  Also in
  f14 what is 3d support like for nvidia cards and ati cards that will
  govern whether or not gnome shell will work with them?
 
  Is it possible to run gnome-shell with Intel graphics in some, a few,
  or many, cases - and is there a list of the ones that are likely to
  work?
 
 
 GNOME Shell will require 3D support in the drivers, yes.
 
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2010-December/msg00135.html
 
 There will also be a fallback mode for systems that don't support GNOME
 Shell
 
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-January/msg8.html
 
 Rahul

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Re: Printing directly on DVD

2011-01-09 Thread Alan Evans
Hiisi wrote:
 Alan Evans:
 I looked at glabels, but it seems very oriented toward printing onto
 labels and covers, with no templates for printing directly onto the
 DVD that I can find.

 I'm not answering your question because I don't have printer with such
 capability. I only want to protect glabels. I use it to create
 lightscribe labels. There's a lot of templates you're looking for under
 CD/DVD category:
 http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7481/kuvakaappausnewlabelorc.png

I wasn't attacking glabels, so I'm not sure why you feel the need to
protect it. I only said that it had no templates for printing
directly onto printable DVDs, which is still true notwithstanding your
screenshot.

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Re: Printing directly on DVD

2011-01-09 Thread Alan Evans
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 Start here for the full story:

 http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/dvd/dvdprint/dvd-print.html

 or go directly to the final chapter:

 http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/dvd/dvdp/f13-success.html

 I make no guarantees, I've only tried it on my C5580, but it has
 worked OK through several updates of hplip now, so things may have
 stabilized.

Thanks for all that. Your stuff is always interesting to read.

After reading, I did manage to get the printer past the error and on
to pretending to print. After much pain, I actually saw ink on the
label. (I'm terrified to think what the inside of my printer looks
like now.) My latest iteration seems to be off by only about a quarter
inch.

What a bother.

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Re: kde4 vs gnome ... stick with gnome for now

2011-01-09 Thread Genes MailLists
On 01/09/2011 08:14 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

 On my system, I can just browse to the directory which has the program
 (or .desktop file) I want to add (like /usr/bin) and click and drag it
 up onto the bar where the existing icons are (like the browser). It
 makes a space and I just drop it there. Doesn't get much easier than
 that, I don't think.


  That sounds simpler for sure .. thanks!!

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Re: Gnome3 available in F14 to evaluate it.

2011-01-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote:



 Any chance the latest could be released for F14?  It's only preview code
 after all, so maintaining consistency shouldn't count for much.

 Or would the impact on other packages be too big?


Yes.  The impact on other packages is a major concern.

Rahul
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Re: Gnome3 available in F14 to evaluate it.

2011-01-09 Thread Mark Eggers
On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 10:33:13 -0800, suvayu ali wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Mark Eggers mdegg...@gmail.com wrote:
 spend most of my time in either
 WindowManager (for performance) or KDE (for eye candy).
 
 Do you mean WindowMaker? I find it is very efficient and light weight
 too. But I don't like the window decorations, you can't resize a window
 from any of the window borders. You need to use the lower right corner
 only. Too OS X like for me. :-/ If only there was a way to use GTK+
 window decorations with WindowMaker ...

Yep, sorry about that. I was typing from Gnome and I forgot where I was. 
When I start up my development environment my brain is usually on 
autopilot, so I tend not to notice things. I should be a bit more careful.

Some of the applications have a resize area on both the left and right 
lower corner (pan, for example). If you run Chrome without the system 
title bar and borders, you can resize it on any edge.

I've not played with all of the themes and decorations, but I found 
Checker theme to be particularly annoying :-p.

. . . . just my two cents.

/mde/

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Re: java problem

2011-01-09 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:

Have you tried the three suggestions on the page?


Yes I tried. But one is solely for Windows, I cleared the cache and
reinstalled too with the same method I wrote. But that page is not verifying
and further I was unable to use the it, e.g, when I try to play chess at
either of the site:

http://www.pogo.com/games/chess
http://games.yahoo.com/ch

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Re: confused for booting security

2011-01-09 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:

Options for stanzas are read from within them, top to bottom.  In this
 case, the first one sets the password, the second line halts further
 processing until the password is entered.  Once entered, it would
 process the next two commands.



* *I did actually as follows:

#boot=/dev/sda

{.
..}

password --md5 encryp_pwd_PC

hiddenmenu

title Fedora (the latest kernel)
   password --md5 Fedora_encryp_pwd
lock
   .

title Fedora (previous kernel)
password --md5 Fedora_encryp_pwd
lock
.

title WinXP
   password --md5 WinXP_encryp_pwd
lock
...

Here actually I have to press first 'p' in any case to select any OS and
then after entering the main common password (encrypted PC password). As
password --md5 line is coming in each section, so again I have to type that
encrypted password (different from the previous PC password) and then I come
to login screen. Though I have use password --md5 command separately in each
titles section, but if I omit, I need to enter the password once just after
pressing 'p', which has become mandatory for the above case, even if to
select is WinXP.
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Re: java problem

2011-01-09 Thread Peter Larsen
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 22:53 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote:
 hi,
 
 I have installed the java (by searching at the net) and just did as
 directed. As follows:

I wonder what problem is preventing you from simply: yum install
@java  ??  openjdk/icedtea works fine.


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Re: java problem

2011-01-09 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Peter Larsen 
plar...@famlarsen.homelinux.com wrote:

I wonder what problem is preventing you from simply: yum install
 @java  ??  openjdk/icedtea works fine.



We can use either Sun java or the open JDK, but the problem is in Sun java
installation and when you try to play online chess at the said websites.
Open JDK gets installed but some websites makes use of only Sun java, as
their docs say!
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Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t

2011-01-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/09/2011 01:29 PM, Peter Larsen wrote:
 Mouse clicks is the largest one -
 Fedora (out of the box) doesn't support the touch-pad for clicking.

I have a Toshiba laptop, and Fedora supported the touch-pad completely, 
right out of the pox.  I also have an old, slow laptop (mostly retired) 
that ambles Puppy and I've never had the slightest touch-pad trouble 
with it.  If you're having trouble with your touch-pad, there's either 
something wrong, or something very non-standard about  it.
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Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t

2011-01-09 Thread hockeyrabbit
well I have the same problem. actually the mice of both of my two laptops 
don't work well with the clicking the touch pads. One is Lenovo, another is 
Dell Inspiron 6000. haven't got time to look into it. Hopefully it can be 
solved by driver updating.

-Original Message- 
From: Joe Zeff
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 2:29 AM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t

On 01/09/2011 01:29 PM, Peter Larsen wrote:
 Mouse clicks is the largest one -
 Fedora (out of the box) doesn't support the touch-pad for clicking.

I have a Toshiba laptop, and Fedora supported the touch-pad completely,
right out of the pox.  I also have an old, slow laptop (mostly retired)
that ambles Puppy and I've never had the slightest touch-pad trouble
with it.  If you're having trouble with your touch-pad, there's either
something wrong, or something very non-standard about  it.
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Re: Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t

2011-01-09 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:35 PM,  hockeyrab...@gmail.com wrote:
 well I have the same problem. actually the mice of both of my two laptops
 don't work well with the clicking the touch pads. One is Lenovo, another is
 Dell Inspiron 6000. haven't got time to look into it. Hopefully it can be
 solved by driver updating.


try

synclient  TapButton1=1

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