Re: Fedora Weekly News?
On 02/28/2011 01:09 AM, John Mellor wrote: Here here! FWN used to be something worth reading, but has now been bastardized into what looks more like an employee rule-book for a totally mindless organization. If you feel strongly about it, now is a great time to step up and help write some content on a weekly basis for other like minded users to enjoy or maybe criticize. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FEDORA and RHEL
On 02/28/2011 01:22 AM, JD wrote: Thanx a lot. I was hoping that the RHEL updates would have included the tried and true, and very stable mods made in the fedora releases/updates. Sometimes they do but it is a question of whether enterprise customers want the update vs the risk of the update disrupting something else. In the environments that RHEL targets, conservative updates are generally considered a plus. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bug in liveusb-creator.exe (Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.3.4.exeworks for F14)
On 02/26/2011 10:49 AM, Suresh Govindachar wrote: By the way, how would one do what liveusb-creator.exe does manually from a command line (cmd shell)? The wiki page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo has command line instructions for Linux, but not for Windows. If such instructions were available, I might not have had to use pendrivelinux.com's Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.3.4.exe. Command line in Windows? Live CD creator is a GUI application. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora 14 - can't change pointer theme
I updated from Fedora 12 to Fedora 14 over the weekend, and now I can't change my pointer theme. I'm stuck using dmz-aa. The pointer preferences still show my custom pointer choice, it's just not being used. Well, mostly. Within Firefox and Thunderbird windows, my custom pointer is showing up. But window borders, the desktop and most apps only show the dmz-aa pointer. I can't find a ref. to dmx under ~/.gconf (but I can find my custom pointer selection: /desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse/cursor_theme I think). Any ideas where to look? I've seen mention of this elsewhere, but only WRT compiz (I use openbox), and it involved changing the system default, which I don't want to have to do. -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signature: No such file or directory [neil@fnx ~]# exit -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Nmbd dies
Suddenly, when I boot my laptop (That is getting IP from a DHCP), I see smb and nmb services up, but whe I log in I see that nmb is dead!!! I have to restart it manually and then my shares are shown No idea why and what to look for debugging. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Nmbd dies
2011/2/28 antonio.montagn...@alice.it antonio.montagn...@alice.it: Suddenly, when I boot my laptop (That is getting IP from a DHCP), I see smb and nmb services up, but whe I log in I see that nmb is dead!!! I have to restart it manually and then my shares are shown No idea why and what to look for debugging. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines I think that is connected to latest initscripts-9.20.2-1.fc14.1.i686as I downgrade to initscripts-9.20.1-1.fc14.i686 everything is o.k. I am running my laptop with dynamic IP by DHCP -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 SIP: antoniomon...@ekiga.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Duplicate accounts?
Is this normal? Fedora10 here... # users fcassia fcassia fcassia fcassia fcassia fcassia fcassia [root@doscabezas]# groups root bin daemon sys adm disk wheel Somehow I inardvertedly ended up with a bunch of folders owned by root, and when I attempted to move those around from the user account (fcassia) I got permission issues, as expected. So I did SUDO -i, and from root as shell I tried to chown -hR * fcassia on the Desktop folder... all was fine but one particular file doesn't want to be changed... chown: invalid user: `mail-backup.zip' I must be doing something wrong... FC PS: I figured it out... I had the parameters for chown reversed... file name is always last.Sheesh. Still, is the multiple fcassia accounts output from accounts normal? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
How to know if a given port is Half or Full Duplex from Gnome?
How to know on a gigabit Eth0 if a given port is working in half duplex, full duplex,and if it's fast ethernet or full ethernet, from Gnome/Fedora? If I hover over the ETH0 icon in the notification area of the Gnome bar I only see Wired connection 'System eth0' active. Is there any way to make it display Wired connection ' system eth- active (1000 Mbit, Fulll Duplex) or @Wired connection ' system eth- active (1000 Mbit, Half Duplex) Would come very handing while testing cables Thanks!!! FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to know if a given port is Half or Full Duplex from Gnome?
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: How to know on a gigabit Eth0 if a given port is working in half duplex, full duplex,and if it's fast ethernet or full ethernet, from Gnome/Fedora? If I hover over the ETH0 icon in the notification area of the Gnome bar I only see Wired connection 'System eth0' active. Is there any way to make it display Wired connection ' system eth- active (1000 Mbit, Fulll Duplex) or @Wired connection ' system eth- active (1000 Mbit, Half Duplex) basically I' d like a way to see graphically what ethtool eth0 gives FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Getting data off of a Palm Pilot IIIe
I have a old palm pilot that I really don't use but still use its windows client GUI. I can still sync it to the original palm pilot but I'd like to get the data off of that platform onto something a little more contemporary like Mozilla Sunbird etc. Is there some sort of utility that I can use to transfer the palm pilot information to another platform? I've looked around and haven't found anything that really works well. I've checked Sunbird but I'm open to suggestions if you could share your experiences. Thanks - Tod -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
mouse clicks fail on first login
I had this on a previous distro, so it's not specific to Fedora. I log in and after about 60 seconds, mouse clicks no longer work. The only workaround is to log out and log back in. Then mouse clicks work for an unlimited time. This is an HP DV7 laptop with a Synaptics touchpad and a Logitech Marble Mouse plugged in to it. Anyone know what's going on? My guess is that it's an X bug. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Getting data off of a Palm Pilot IIIe
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Tod Thomas fr33z...@gmail.com wrote: Is there some sort of utility that I can use to transfer the palm pilot information to another platform? I've looked around and haven't found anything that really works well. http://www.jpilot.org/ I´m not sure what export formats it has... but it´s worth a try. FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Getting data off of a Palm Pilot IIIe
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Tod Thomas fr33z...@gmail.com wrote: Is there some sort of utility that I can use to transfer the palm pilot information to another platform? I've looked around and haven't found anything that really works well. There is a Palm Desktop for Java I ran it years ago under IBM OS/2... I´m not sure what export formats it has... but it´s worth a try. Update: Import and Export Features Import and Export to many different formats Export of iCalendar format from the ToDo and Datebook Palm applications Export of vCard format from Address book Export of LDIF format from Address book FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Nmbd dies
2011/2/28 Antonio M antonio.montagn...@gmail.com: 2011/2/28 antonio.montagn...@alice.it antonio.montagn...@alice.it: Suddenly, when I boot my laptop (That is getting IP from a DHCP), I see smb and nmb services up, but whe I log in I see that nmb is dead!!! I have to restart it manually and then my shares are shown No idea why and what to look for debugging. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines I think that is connected to latest initscripts-9.20.2-1.fc14.1.i686as I downgrade to initscripts-9.20.1-1.fc14.i686 everything is o.k. I am running my laptop with dynamic IP by DHCP -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 SIP: antoniomon...@ekiga.net No, it is not connected to initscrips: I apologize for the noise. Further investigation is needed. -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 SIP: antoniomon...@ekiga.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Duplicate accounts?
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: Is this normal? Fedora10 here... # users fcassia fcassia fcassia fcassia fcassia fcassia fcassia You have opened 7 connections (maybe terminal) with your host, [root@doscabezas]# groups root bin daemon sys adm disk wheel Somehow I inardvertedly ended up with a bunch of folders owned by root, and when I attempted to move those around from the user account (fcassia) I got permission issues, as expected. So I did SUDO -i, and from root as shell I tried to chown -hR * fcassia on the Desktop folder... You must switch the star and our user name chown -hR fcassia * all was fine but one particular file doesn't want to be changed... chown: invalid user: `mail-backup.zip' Or you could have got : file not found : fcassia I must be doing something wrong... FC PS: I figured it out... I had the parameters for chown reversed... file name is always last.Sheesh. Still, is the multiple fcassia accounts output from accounts normal? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- Alain Spineux | aspineux gmail com Your email 100% available | http://www.emailgency.com Send backup mail report | http://www.magikmon.com/mkbackup -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Mozilla spellcheck options
Everyone: Where is the English-US option for default spelling dictionaries in Firefox and Thunderbird? (And for that matter, why don't those dictionaries come with the proper names of Firefox and Thunderbird pre-loaded?) I have been using the spell-check system for many times. And I detect a distinct United Kingdom bias: Words ending in -our instead of -or (colour/color, favour/favor, savour/savor, etc.) The -er and -re dispute (centre/center) The -ce and -se dispute (licence/license, defence/defense) Meaning no disrespect to staunch defenders of the Queen's English, I suggest that an English-US set of dictionaries should be available. At least some members of this community learned (learnt?) our spelling from Noah Webster, not Samuel Johnson. Temlakos -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [389-users] ldapsearch to get users with expired password
On 02/28/2011 07:08 AM, Juan Asensio Sánchez wrote: Is there any way to obtain the users with expired/expiring password? Hi have activated the password policy, making the password expire after X days, and warn them after X-10 days. Now, I want to create a cron job to send an email to users warning them about its password expiration. I know I can get that information about the user is binding, but not for the users obtained from a search. Filters are your friend. To select passwords that have expired since midnight, you would use the following filter (using today's date Feb 28 2011): (passwordexpirationtime=2011022800Z) To select users with passwords expiring in the next 10 days (passwords expire between today at midnight AND Mar. 10 at midnight): ((passwordexpirationtime=2011022800Z)(passwordexpirationtime=2011031000Z)) You may need to add additional filter terms as well. The script that we use also filters out (excludes) inactive accounts (since we don't delete accounts from our directory.) Inactivated accounts in our directory all belong to a single group (and we have the group memberof plugin enabled): (((passwordexpirationtime=2011022800Z)(passwordexpirationtime=2011031000Z)(! (memberOf=cn=inactivated,cn=account inactivation,cn=accounts,dc=domain,dc=com Depending on how your directory is designed, it might make more sense to eliminate users with the nsaccountlock attribute set to true: (((passwordexpirationtime=2011022800Z)(passwordexpirationtime=2011031000Z)(! (nsaccountlock=true -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Getting data off of a Palm Pilot IIIe
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 06:15 -0500, Tod Thomas wrote: I have a old palm pilot that I really don't use but still use its windows client GUI. I can still sync it to the original palm pilot but I'd like to get the data off of that platform onto something a little more contemporary like Mozilla Sunbird etc. Is there some sort of utility that I can use to transfer the palm pilot information to another platform? I've looked around and haven't found anything that really works well. I've checked Sunbird but I'm open to suggestions if you could share your experiences. yum install pilot-link Kpilot and gnome-pilot are GUIs which use the above, but if you just want to back up your data you don't need them. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 14 - can't change pointer theme
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Neil Bird n...@fnxweb.com wrote: I updated from Fedora 12 to Fedora 14 over the weekend, and now I can't change my pointer theme. I'm stuck using dmz-aa. The pointer preferences still show my custom pointer choice, it's just not being used. Well, mostly. Within Firefox and Thunderbird windows, my custom pointer is showing up. But window borders, the desktop and most apps only show the dmz-aa pointer. I can't find a ref. to dmx under ~/.gconf (but I can find my custom pointer selection: /desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse/cursor_theme I think). Any ideas where to look? I've seen mention of this elsewhere, but only What I do is yum install bluecurve-cursor-theme gnome-themes-extras oxygen-cursor-themes oxygen-icon-theme Then you will find you can change the cursor from dmz-aa to clearlooks or one of the others you may prefer. -- mike c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
posix acl
Hi there the issue is relative to the copy of a file chmod 0700 from an home dir to a shared public location if i use samba (windows explorer) to copy the file, the default group acl of destination dir are correctly applied; if i use cp command in a xterm shell, file is still 0700 and no acl is applied Is this a known and old issue with posix acl or i missed a piece? best regards Maurizio -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
RE: Bug in liveusb-creator.exe(Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.3.4.exeworks for F14)
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 02/26/2011 10:49 AM, Suresh Govindachar wrote: Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680589 By the way, how would one do what liveusb-creator.exe does manually from a command line (cmd shell)? The wiki page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo has command line instructions for Linux, but not for Windows. If such instructions were available, I might not have had to use pendrivelinux.com's Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.3.4.exe. Command line in Windows? Yes, instructions for creating a live CD from Windows cmd.exe perhaps by invoking the stuff in live cd creator's tools/ directory. (There are several Unix commands and tools that have been ported to Windows.) Live CD creator is a GUI application. I know, but my attempts to use Live CD creator exposed a bug in it (bugzilla id=680589), and the bug prevent its use. Had there been instructions for creating a live CD from the command line I could have tried those. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora Weekly News?
Tim: Thirded... I used to find something worth reading in it, but the last few editions have been completely boring. JD: Actually, this more of an opportunity than a point to lament. If there are people who could spend the time cycles needed to write interesting and informative articles about Fedora for FNW, then this is the chance to jump on it :) I'm sure it is, but I'm voicing my comments from the viewpoint of a reader, rather than a contributor. What happened to it? Did the people previously submitting the interesting articles give up? Have they left the scene? Has someone deliberately decided to make it like is, rather than how it was? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: random crashes
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 13:57 -0800, john wendel wrote: I once killed a motherboard by vaccuming out the dust. Static discharge from the vac brush, I think. Don't make the same mistake, use a blower or canned air instead. Hmm, I would have thought blowing air in to be more of an issue than sucking air out. Blasting air in generally has a lot of force, vacuums only have much air force when very close to the nozzle. But with a bit of distance involved, about all it does it draw moving air towards it. I tend to just use a small paintbrush to dislodge dust so it floats into the air, with a vacuum nozzle near enough to stop the dust settling back down, or me breathing it in. Pipe cleaners are good for getting the fluff out of heatsinks and around fan blades. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Mozilla spellcheck options
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Temlakos temla...@gmail.com wrote: Where is the English-US option for default spelling dictionaries in Firefox and Thunderbird? (And for that matter, why don't those dictionaries come with the proper names of Firefox and Thunderbird pre-loaded?) http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/using%20the%20spell%20checker -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FEDORA and RHEL
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:52 PM, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/27/2011 11:38 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:04:50 -0800 JDjd1...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone point me to any docs or info on the process (and frequency) of updating RHEL with the bugfixes and new features added to the Fedora repos? When there is a new major RHEL release mostly. So, RHEL6 just came out not too long ago, and was branched/based off Fedora 12/13. RHEL5 was based off Fedora Core 6. There's likely cases where changes in Fedora packages are backported into RHEL releases, but those are harder to quantify. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RHEL has more information. kevin Thanx a lot. I was hoping that the RHEL updates would have included the tried and true, and very stable mods made in the fedora releases/updates. To wait from FC6 until FC12/13 to produce RHEL6 is an awfully long time :( So, I guess I will not be installing RHEL6. You could always try Debian, it is based on code that is two to three years old, but it is very stable. Rahul brought up a very good point. Fedora is targeted towards folks who want/need the latest and greatest in technological advances and who are willing to risk not having system access for a little while. RHEL/RHAS are targeted towards commercial users who cannot tolerage any outage time or minimal outage time. I work with RH systems that are in such an environment so I can state that Fedora definitely would not work for us. And we look forward to installing RH6, when it is approved. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: random crashes
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hmm, I would have thought blowing air in to be more of an issue than sucking air out. Blasting air in generally has a lot of force, vacuums only have much air force when very close to the nozzle. Vacuums usually kill electronics because they generate static electricity. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora Core 14 wireless issue with Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200)
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:23:34PM -0300, Sebastian wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:06 PM, John W. Linville linvi...@redhat.comwrote: What seems most likely is that you have an older (possibly pre-release) piece of hardware that has EEPROM data on the card that the driver refuses to recognize. Whether or not it is supposed to recognize it is the only remaining question. Hopefully Wey-yi will chime-in. Not sure if I have a pre-release piece of hardware. Is there a way to find this out for sure? The hardware did work with windows 7. Who is Wey-yi? Wey-yi is the primary person at Intel paid to make sure that the driver in question works. :-) -- John W. LinvilleThe truth will set you free, but first it will linvi...@redhat.com make you miserable. -- James A. Garfield -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora Core 14 wireless issue with Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200)
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:14:18PM -0300, Sebastian wrote: Thank you for those who have taken the time to suggest possible ways to get my card working. It seems I have the latest firmware, the one that came with the Fedora 64-bit DVD, that I downloaded from fedora ~1 week ago. This is the output John was asking, [root@cupri Downloads]# rpm -q iwl6000-firmware iwl6000-firmware-9.221.4.1-1.fc14.noarch John, the wireless card was put into a machine I won on ebay by the same authorised dell ebay reseller, from Australia. The machine came with windows 7, I tested it in wondowz and the card appeared to work fine in windows 7. Any other hints on the next steps to take to try to get wireless working for this card, on Fedora 14? Well, it sounds like the hardware you have may not be entirely legit, and Intel doesn't want to support it. You could try rebuilding your kernel locally, changing the value of EEPROM_6000_EEPROM_VERSION in drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwl-eeprom.h to 0x423 (I think that was the value your device reported). I doubt if you like that option, but I'm not sure what else to suggest. The problem is that the EEPROM contains information related to regulatory compliance, so using an unsupported data format could allow your device to operate outside of legal parameters. :-( Perhaps you could get your hardware supplier to swap-out the card for one obtained through more official channels? John -- John W. LinvilleThe truth will set you free, but first it will linvi...@redhat.com make you miserable. -- James A. Garfield -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: PDF Modifier?
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 13:49 -0300, Michael Wiktowy wrote: On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Harish Pillay harish.pil...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any PDF modifier for linux? You might want to explore Xournal as well. Xournal is superb for annotating PDFs. One thing that I find with generating PDFs or editing them is that often the result ends up so much bigger than the source material. Not so with Xournal. It seems to keep the original PDF untouched and just adds another layer making the file only slightly larger. /Mike I decided to try xournal. Am I correct that when you use it you are left with an .xoj file that can only be read and printed with xournal -- === She was good at playing abstract confusion in the same way a midget is good at being short. -- Clive James, on Marilyn Monroe === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 14 - can't change pointer theme
Around about 28/02/11 14:46, mike cloaked typed ... What I do is yum install bluecurve-cursor-theme gnome-themes-extras oxygen-cursor-themes oxygen-icon-theme I have bluecurve, but it won't let me change to that either. -- [neil@fnx ~]# rm -f .signature [neil@fnx ~]# ls -l .signature ls: .signature: No such file or directory [neil@fnx ~]# exit -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 14 - can't change pointer theme
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Neil Bird n...@fnxweb.com wrote: Around about 28/02/11 14:46, mike cloaked typed ... What I do is yum install bluecurve-cursor-theme gnome-themes-extras oxygen-cursor-themes oxygen-icon-theme I have bluecurve, but it won't let me change to that either. Well I have done this on 7 machines and no problems changing it in the settings menu under gnome - if you are using KDE that may behave differently of course. -- mike c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Nmbd dies
2011/2/28 Antonio M antonio.montagn...@gmail.com: 2011/2/28 Antonio M antonio.montagn...@gmail.com: 2011/2/28 antonio.montagn...@alice.it antonio.montagn...@alice.it: Suddenly, when I boot my laptop (That is getting IP from a DHCP), I see smb and nmb services up, but whe I log in I see that nmb is dead!!! I have to restart it manually and then my shares are shown No idea why and what to look for debugging. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines I think that is connected to latest initscripts-9.20.2-1.fc14.1.i686as I downgrade to initscripts-9.20.1-1.fc14.i686 everything is o.k. I am running my laptop with dynamic IP by DHCP -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 SIP: antoniomon...@ekiga.net No, it is not connected to initscrips: I apologize for the noise. Further investigation is needed. -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 SIP: antoniomon...@ekiga.net My mistake: removing WINS=yes from samba.conf made evrything work Sorry for the noise -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : amontag52 SIP: antoniomon...@ekiga.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora Core 14 wireless issue with Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200)
Thanks John for the message. Did Wey-yi respond to your mail John? Is the too old Eprom, firmware conjecture reasonable, considering the card DOES work in Windows 7 as verified? Unfortunately swapping out the card is not feasible since it would have to travel to Australia from Argentina and then the new one back again, bad for the hip pocket and more importantly for the environment. Haven't been able to contact intel yet, although i've been trying hard for the last few days. I don't really want to build my own Kernel, since I have no experience, and heard it is a pain in the proverbial. So I think i'll try to run a live ubuntu CD to see what happens... or maybe buy a new card locally. On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:45 PM, John W. Linville linvi...@redhat.comwrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:14:18PM -0300, Sebastian wrote: Thank you for those who have taken the time to suggest possible ways to get my card working. It seems I have the latest firmware, the one that came with the Fedora 64-bit DVD, that I downloaded from fedora ~1 week ago. This is the output John was asking, [root@cupri Downloads]# rpm -q iwl6000-firmware iwl6000-firmware-9.221.4.1-1.fc14.noarch John, the wireless card was put into a machine I won on ebay by the same authorised dell ebay reseller, from Australia. The machine came with windows 7, I tested it in wondowz and the card appeared to work fine in windows 7. Any other hints on the next steps to take to try to get wireless working for this card, on Fedora 14? Well, it sounds like the hardware you have may not be entirely legit, and Intel doesn't want to support it. You could try rebuilding your kernel locally, changing the value of EEPROM_6000_EEPROM_VERSION in drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwl-eeprom.h to 0x423 (I think that was the value your device reported). I doubt if you like that option, but I'm not sure what else to suggest. The problem is that the EEPROM contains information related to regulatory compliance, so using an unsupported data format could allow your device to operate outside of legal parameters. :-( Perhaps you could get your hardware supplier to swap-out the card for one obtained through more official channels? John -- John W. LinvilleThe truth will set you free, but first it will linvi...@redhat.com make you miserable. -- James A. Garfield -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora Core 14 wireless issue with Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200)
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 01:27:59PM -0300, Sebastian wrote: Thanks John for the message. Did Wey-yi respond to your mail John? I saw a reply from her -- perhaps she only sent it to me. She confirmed that the required value was as intended. Is the too old Eprom, firmware conjecture reasonable, considering the card DOES work in Windows 7 as verified? Reasonable may be in the eye of the beholder, but it depends on what the driver does with the information it gets from the eeprom. It could be that the current linux driver is doing something with the eeprom info that the windows driver you are using doesn't do. Maybe the linux driver could be more conservative about what it does with eeprom info when the eeprom version is too old? Or maybe the windows driver is at risk of doing the wrong thing already? Maybe some later version of the windows driver will refuse to work with your hardware? I have no idea. For the most part, this is a hardware support issue for the Intel folks. If you can convince them that the earlier eeprom version should be supported for your hardware, I'll be happy to merge a patch to enable it. But if they say that your hardware will operate outside of legal limits with your eeprom's values, then I can't enable it in good conscience. John -- John W. LinvilleThe truth will set you free, but first it will linvi...@redhat.com make you miserable. -- James A. Garfield -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC15 and GNOME3
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Thanks for the prompt reply. I understand this choice came because some Apple laptops melt if you don't suspend when you close the cover, but after reading the article I checked the CPU temp on a few of mine, and they seem likely to survive. Fan may or may not work a little harder, though. Melt? How about catch on fire. That is a 'bad thing'. It is best to 'hide' such selections from users who are not aware of such dangers. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC15 and GNOME3
On 02/28/2011 11:45 AM, James McKenzie wrote: On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Thanks for the prompt reply. I understand this choice came because some Apple laptops melt if you don't suspend when you close the cover, but after reading the article I checked the CPU temp on a few of mine, and they seem likely to survive. Fan may or may not work a little harder, though. Melt? How about catch on fire. That is a 'bad thing'. It is best to 'hide' such selections from users who are not aware of such dangers. We are confusing 2 issues here - (i) configuring the choices of lid-close event. (ii) Thermal events - If temp crosses threshold - then shutdown. (ii) is the issue here - and disallowing (i) as a solution is inappropriate. If (ii) is broken for some class - then possibly one could argue that lid event - or a host of other things that may raise temps could be disallowed - how about using the CPU - disallow - or the power supply for that matter ... :-) But let us not confuse the issues please - the problem with overheating should be handled by thermal event handler not lid close. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Where can I find a functional nslookup? ***AIX 6.11 is no better ***
Ed Greshko wrote: On 02/27/2011 08:30 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: These people not only don't pay for good advice, they won't even take it for free in many cases. Good luck to you. No matter what direction you take, the chances are sometime in the future the situation will become totally untenable. I've seen that happen when it was no longer possible to compile old code due to the library dependencies also becoming obsolete. That is at least likely to remain solved, perl isn't going to be a problem using the current library calls, and old binaries work just fine linked static. There's a program (statify IIRC) which converts dynamic linked programs to (large and ugly) static executable images. Hopefully the economy will get better, and when they have to go to AIX 6.x they will either change away from nslookup or pay for one in perl. It actually isn't that awful a job, I suspect. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bug in liveusb-creator.exe(Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.3.4.exeworks for F14)
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:15:52 -0800 Suresh Govindachar sgovindac...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, instructions for creating a live CD from Windows cmd.exe perhaps by invoking the stuff in live cd creator's tools/ directory. (There are several Unix commands and tools that have been ported to Windows.) The Cygwin environment is a lifesaver on Windows for those used to a unix like OS. It might even have a package available that does live CD creation from that Unix like environment. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: random crashes
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 10:33 -0500, Ted Roche wrote: Vacuums usually kill electronics because they generate static electricity. Well, it's always been the suggestion that it's the *moving air* that generates static electricity, with the velocity being the major factor. The direction shouldn't really matter, though I was pointing out that you generally have more force with an airstream that blows rather than sucks. One only has to have a cleaner with both inlets and outlets attachable to the same hose to be able to notice the difference (expelled air having significant force a few feet away, yet a sucking hose having almost no power a few inches away). Service shops used to use air compressors (as used for power tools, and inflating vehicle tires) to blast muck out of electronic devices. And, in doing so, would often cause static electricity damage. No vacuum cleaner there, and a similar plastic hose, metal nozzle, issue. I'd be more concerned about vacuum cleaners with: Getting the nozzle too close, suddenly sucking itself into direct contact, and smacking into delicate parts. Than with a static charge that they might generate. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC15 and GNOME3
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote: On 02/28/2011 11:45 AM, James McKenzie wrote: On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Thanks for the prompt reply. I understand this choice came because some Apple laptops melt if you don't suspend when you close the cover, but after reading the article I checked the CPU temp on a few of mine, and they seem likely to survive. Fan may or may not work a little harder, though. Melt? How about catch on fire. That is a 'bad thing'. It is best to 'hide' such selections from users who are not aware of such dangers. We are confusing 2 issues here - (i) configuring the choices of lid-close event. (ii) Thermal events - If temp crosses threshold - then shutdown. The problem is that this was not a thermal event, it was the fact that the power draw contined until the Lithium-Ion battery caught fire. This is a fault that the battery's internal thermal device did not function and is well documented. (ii) is the issue here - and disallowing (i) as a solution is inappropriate. Agreed. If I want lid close, suspend, let me select it. If I don't, let me select it. But let us not confuse the issues please - the problem with overheating should be handled by thermal event handler not lid close. True. However, some folks mistakedly think that ii is related to i. It is not nor should it be. If the thermal breaker is 'broken' then a series of events could and have triggered it. Batteries have 'breakers' for a reason. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Getting data off of a Palm Pilot IIIe
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 06:15 -0500, Tod Thomas wrote: I have a old palm pilot that I really don't use but still use its windows client GUI. I can still sync it to the original palm pilot but I'd like to get the data off of that platform onto something a little more contemporary like Mozilla Sunbird etc. Is there some sort of utility that I can use to transfer the palm pilot information to another platform? I've looked around and haven't found anything that really works well. I've checked Sunbird but I'm open to suggestions if you could share your experiences. Thanks - Tod gnome-pilot or pilot-link or jpilot or kpilot, maybe? -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC15 and GNOME3
On 02/28/2011 10:04 AM, James McKenzie wrote: Agreed. If I want lid close, suspend, let me select it. If I don't, let me select it. Yes. The Gnome devs have, once again, decided that the way they like to do things is the One True Way and everybody using Gnome must do things their way. I'd complain on the forums at gnome.org, but for all practical purposes that's a waste of time because nobody ever responds except to flame you if you disagree with the devs. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to know if a given port is Half or Full Duplex from Gnome?
Fernando Cassia fcassia at gmail.com writes: How to know on a gigabit Eth0 if a given port is working in half duplex, full duplex,and if it's fast ethernet or full ethernet, from Gnome/Fedora? If I hover over the ETH0 icon in the notification area of the Gnome bar I only see Wired connection 'System eth0' active. Is there any way to make it display Wired connection ' system eth- active (1000 Mbit, Fulll Duplex) or @Wired connection ' system eth- active (1000 Mbit, Half Duplex) Would come very handing while testing cables Thanks!!! FC If you mean NetworkManager Applet, then right-clicking on it gives you Connection Information selection (it does not have all ethtool info, of course). Anyway, this is a Request For Enhancement matter and it is acceptable to create a Bugzilla report stating the nature (that is RFE) of it. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Getting data off of a Palm Pilot IIIe
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: There is a Palm Desktop for Java I ran it years ago under IBM OS/2... I´m not sure what export formats it has... but it´s worth a try. Sorry I got confused with another Java-based sync util, Java Palm Desktop http://www.ctag.de/projects/jpd/ this jPilot.org is another one, claims to be for Linux and Unix, and looks native. http://www.jpilot.org/images/jpilot-datebook.png FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FEDORA and RHEL
JD wrote: On 02/27/2011 11:38 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:04:50 -0800 JDjd1...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone point me to any docs or info on the process (and frequency) of updating RHEL with the bugfixes and new features added to the Fedora repos? When there is a new major RHEL release mostly. So, RHEL6 just came out not too long ago, and was branched/based off Fedora 12/13. RHEL5 was based off Fedora Core 6. There's likely cases where changes in Fedora packages are backported into RHEL releases, but those are harder to quantify. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RHEL has more information. kevin Thanx a lot. I was hoping that the RHEL updates would have included the tried and true, and very stable mods made in the fedora releases/updates. To wait from FC6 until FC12/13 to produce RHEL6 is an awfully long time :( So, I guess I will not be installing RHEL6. If you want cutting edge go Fedora, if you want stable go RHEL. If you have better things to do with your time than upgrade twice a year, RHEL and bug fixes only. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: PDF Modifier?
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I decided to try xournal. Am I correct that when you use it you are left with an .xoj file that can only be read and printed with xournal Once you are done editing, you can export to a new modified pdf which can be read by any pdf reader. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Sorting by date
Original: Jan 23 2011 10:42 SOMETHING 2007.12.20.avi Jun 26 2009 SOMETHING 2009.06.25.avi Feb 12 2010 SOMETHING 2010.02.11.avi Jan 29 2011 09:17 SOMETHING 2011.01.27.avi Feb 11 2011 20:06 SOMETHING 2011.02.10.avi Feb 27 2011 23:05 SOMETHING 2011.02.24.avi Output: Feb 27 2011 23:05 SOMETHING 2011.02.24.avi Feb 11 2011 20:06 SOMETHING 2011.02.10.avi Jan 29 2011 09:17 SOMETHING 2011.01.27.avi Jan 23 2011 10:42 SOMETHING 2007.12.20.avi Feb 12 2010 SOMETHING 2010.02.11.avi Jun 26 2009 SOMETHING 2009.06.25.avi How could I get the output where the newest file is at the top? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Sorting by date
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, erikmccaskey64 erikmccaske...@zoho.com wrote: How could I get the output where the newest file is at the top? One solution would be to awk it until the date is in the format Europeans prefer, namely MM DD. regards/va...@texoma.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Sorting by date
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Larry Vaden va...@texoma.net wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, erikmccaskey64 erikmccaske...@zoho.com wrote: How could I get the output where the newest file is at the top? One solution would be to awk it until the date is in the format Europeans prefer, namely MM DD. That said, are you really looking for the package with the latest E-V-R; if so, you'll need to borrow Python code from yum or perhaps a Python guru on this list. Johnny at CentOS (IMHO) recently posed this question as a way of filtering out wanna be helpers. regards/va...@texoma.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FEDORA and RHEL
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: If you want cutting edge go Fedora, if you want stable go RHEL. If you have better things to do with your time than upgrade twice a year, RHEL and bug fixes only. You answered the OPs question directly and much better than my reply. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora Core 14 wireless issue with Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200)
OK, thanks Wey_yi for chiming in, however, even if i do get the card to work in linux by recompiling the kernel or do use it in windows, as you say, given that the EPROM is not to FCC standard, could I be putting other components of my computer and/or myself at any risk? On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 1:44 PM, wwguy wey-yi.w@intel.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 08:27 -0800, Sebastian wrote: Thanks John for the message. Did Wey-yi respond to your mail John? Is the too old Eprom, firmware conjecture reasonable, considering the card DOES work in Windows 7 as verified? Unfortunately swapping out the card is not feasible since it would have to travel to Australia from Argentina and then the new one back again, bad for the hip pocket and more importantly for the environment. Haven't been able to contact intel yet, although i've been trying hard for the last few days. I don't really want to build my own Kernel, since I have no experience, and heard it is a pain in the proverbial. So I think i'll try to run a live ubuntu CD to see what happens... or maybe buy a new card locally. Hi Sebastian, Very sorry to know you have an engineer sample NIC, John is right, the old EEPROM will have issue with regulatory compliance and Intel will not support it. The only choice you have will be: 1. swap out the card and replace with a good card 2. modify the iwl-eeprom.c file and rebuild kernel which I don't really recommend. 3. switch to Window OS since Window driver don't check the EEPROM version (Window driver's bug for not checking EEPROM version). Wey -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 14 - can't change pointer theme
On 28 February 2011 14:46, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Neil Bird n...@fnxweb.com wrote: I updated from Fedora 12 to Fedora 14 over the weekend, and now I can't change my pointer theme. I'm stuck using dmz-aa. The pointer preferences still show my custom pointer choice, it's just not being used. Well, mostly. Within Firefox and Thunderbird windows, my custom pointer is showing up. But window borders, the desktop and most apps only show the dmz-aa pointer. I can't find a ref. to dmx under ~/.gconf (but I can find my custom pointer selection: /desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse/cursor_theme I think). Any ideas where to look? I've seen mention of this elsewhere, but only What I do is yum install bluecurve-cursor-theme gnome-themes-extras oxygen-cursor-themes oxygen-icon-theme Then you will find you can change the cursor from dmz-aa to clearlooks or one of the others you may prefer. -- mike c What I did was a bit more radical/technical. I went over to kde-look.org picked a cursor theme which didn't make my eyes bleed, Polar-cursor-themes is what I finally settled on. Now dmz* is pulled in by libXcursor so I rebuilt it and put the dependency on my new cursors job done. Next time I respin my desktop dmz* is never involved :-) I can fpaste specfiles for those who want to follow at home. ...dex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
k3b dvd burn problems with growisofs
My system: fedora 14, dell e6500, TSSTcorp DVD +-RW TS-U633F With the default k3b that now uses growisofs to burn a dvd, it fails at 49% every time. Downloaded the k3b-2.0.2-2.fc14.src.rpm, disabled the patch51 which changes wodim to growisofs, recompiled and now I can burn a DVD iso image. -- Brian Millett - [ Garibaldi (re: spacing), Revelations] They put you in an airlock, seal it, and then open the space door. You spend the next five minutes chewing vacuum until your lungs turn inside-out, your eyeballs freeze, and your heart explodes. It's the worst kind of death you can imagine. And when that day comes, I'll be there to push the button. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora Core 14 wireless issue with Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200)
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 18:32 -0300, Sebastian wrote: given that the EPROM is not to FCC standard, could I be putting other components of my computer and/or myself at any risk? I don't think the power output ability of the device is capable of that. It's more an issue of being an interfering nuisance to other devices around you, by allowing more power output, or the wrong channels, for your country/location. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Bug in liveusb-creator.exe(Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.3.4.exeworks for F14)
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 10:19 -0700, stan wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:15:52 -0800 Suresh Govindachar sgovindac...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, instructions for creating a live CD from Windows cmd.exe perhaps by invoking the stuff in live cd creator's tools/ directory. (There are several Unix commands and tools that have been ported to Windows.) The Cygwin environment is a lifesaver on Windows for those used to a unix like OS. It might even have a package available that does live CD creation from that Unix like environment. Use unetboootin downloaded at: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ Allows you to create a Live USB of Live CD for 50 unix versions (includes linux versions) As well as creating them from an iso downloaded to your machine. Works like a charm. -- === Q: Why did the tachyon cross the road? A: Because it was on the other side. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Duplicate accounts?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/28/2011 07:47 AM, Alain Spineux wrote: So I did SUDO -i, and from root as shell I tried to chown -hR * fcassia on the Desktop folder... You must switch the star and our user name chown -hR fcassia * You should also avoid doing chown -R with just a * wildcard as this could possibly recursively follow ../ which would then try and change ownership on things you don't want changed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJNbCMNAAoJEBgaXYoZ++879UYH/jFEdn65GnvK3cMNq5JL2eAX W5wa+BG4nb1xOG6OHe//36fVMLk9YU1bd8zf2s8R3D8yVEw/cxndnGvyZegr8XYy 8eYq5ZFG092yIcKVSu3spTMz5U4UCwHRNj57y3qpapzzs8ENxt9Dmq17U5oFxvzy kUxCSp26WajYOz1q6Kx2poHoAOMPSVwSHaQWJhFKkhUPkYJ/RPl6wS83peBMSFc3 f1UzaTH0qG5FwQ3LxFKXkZwYGr3UOdJsjuDrFzeAeSA0F7p1c8ekffIycDBSnKIE GQ1xuTB1+sdmGmFFCdqChRvrO0fGfL/pLbI+lIZ2tbvQSfSUecfpedXAdMUOE2k= =CJ9j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
f14 - kudos
Hi all, I finally got a 64 bit processor and have had a chance to run f14, both x32 and x64. I cannot express enough how incredible f14 is compared to every other fedora/redhat distro that I've used before. It was a surprise to see that x64 had fewer issues than the x32 version (though I have to admit I was a virgin to both). I'm trying all the dog food. All GUI. All enforcing selinux. With the addition of remi's and rpmfusion's repos I ended up with a stunning, almost out of the box, system. Since the days when RH only supported Matrox video cards that cost the equivalent of an auto's down-payment I have never had a blow-your- socks-off multimedia experience on any Linux system, that is, until now. First and foremost: Once the monitor's HDMI video cable was connected to the onboard Intel video connector it came up in full resolution. First time since I bought it and never knew it was that nice! No xorg.conf, nothing. It just worked. Second: NetworkManager works for me. As a cmdline, static IP edit-your-own-ifcfg, loves iproute2 kind of person, I was amazed. Haven't tried wireless yet. Very impressive. I have noticed some oddities, not sure which side of the keyboard, but those are for a separate post. Awesome job everybody !!! [my mail is still behaving badly; originally posted about 2 hours ago] -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Duplicate accounts?
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 16:34 -0600, Larry Brower wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/28/2011 07:47 AM, Alain Spineux wrote: So I did SUDO -i, and from root as shell I tried to chown -hR * fcassia on the Desktop folder... You must switch the star and our user name chown -hR fcassia * You should also avoid doing chown -R with just a * wildcard as this could possibly recursively follow ../ which would then try and change ownership on things you don't want changed. The Shell will not normally expand * to a name beginning with .. Try it: $ echo * See info bash: When a pattern is used for filename expansion, the character `.' at the start of a filename or immediately following a slash must be matched explicitly, unless the shell option `dotglob' is set. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Duplicate accounts?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/28/2011 05:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The Shell will not normally expand * to a name beginning with .. Try it: $ echo * See info bash: When a pattern is used for filename expansion, the character `.' at the start of a filename or immediately following a slash must be matched explicitly, unless the shell option `dotglob' is set. poc I would say this all depends on the application being invoked and would still say it is bad to just use * as opposed to say ./* I can't count the number of people Ive seen do things like rm -rf * in a directory and it recursively started working on / and /bin etc... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJNbC6BAAoJEBgaXYoZ++87K7EH/jQPzxF5a2hKwOamptZnuAb2 BNd0Tm7rUUvNItkMVjhA032WoYO75Atftmh8dn0kVmD4Ha9UvQSTFRYszWh6NdpM nZ+vGaNIe0O3OvH5ASK55f+sd+6s0sKVLT7QXykixEaiq1h4CUhox03LD7OfhABr XpgQK/RL3Ca3OlfL4WyeAMC2Hk7hG6WOvVWlJBt523KS21/SXOp3QUgq2fIh05Tl oWbcPwChPxeGJPKSpvpbsvAVS6i1+F+ZQyYC4IoxxglULBzJa5eBdez2ZBoTpteJ h9oNuslNcz+SN6ha5uswixJhHBnqXsJdD04HM8dpwQMF68ZMPPEu5JjMk7nBxSc= =plTa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F14 HDMI port delivers no output to SONY 40 LCD TV
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 11:08 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Geoffrey Leach ge...@hughes.net wrote: Like I said, FWIW. Sure, just making it clearer for him, in case. -c Sorry for my very late reply of this, the laptop is down now I sent it for fix and will have it back in a few days, then I can give you the result of what you want to see regarding the driver, but I do remember the video driver is ATI (Exact model will only be known after the laptop returned, appreciate you quick response and I will get back to you soon for same topic. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: k3b dvd burn problems with growisofs
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 17:09 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:55:00 -0600 Brian Millett wrote: With the default k3b that now uses growisofs to burn a dvd, it fails at 49% every time. Are you sure it uses growisofs? I just tried to burn a dual sided DVD the other day with k3b-2.0.2-2.fc14.x86_64 installed, and it screwed up completely, looking at the messages I see auto apparently still picked wodim to do the burn. I still have to switch the burning app from auto to growiosfs to make k3b work properly. Yes, the dialog while burning states that it is using growisofs. -- Brian Millett - [ G'Kar and Delenn, The Gathering] Can you imagine what we could achieve together? 'I can, which is why it must never be allowed to happen.' signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Duplicate accounts?
On 2/28/2011 3:23 PM, Larry Brower wrote: I would say this all depends on the application being invoked and would still say it is bad to just use * as opposed to say ./* I can't count the number of people Ive seen do things like rm -rf * in a directory and it recursively started working on / and /bin etc... Not to be a pest, but if you worry about '*' expanding to include dotfiles, then why do you think that './*' is safe? Furthermore, '*' expansion is handled by the shell, not the application--in other words, dotglob rules the day. The '*' there will just as well include dotfiles (i.e., it won't unless dotglob is set as another poster indicated). I definitely agree that caution is warranted when using '*' in any command that can do horrible things to your files, especially for things like 'rm -rf', but don't travel under the misconception that './*' is going to save your bacon--because it won't. -se -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: k3b dvd burn problems with growisofs
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 17:09 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:55:00 -0600 Brian Millett wrote: With the default k3b that now uses growisofs to burn a dvd, it fails at 49% every time. Are you sure it uses growisofs? I just tried to burn a dual sided DVD the other day with k3b-2.0.2-2.fc14.x86_64 installed, and it screwed up completely, looking at the messages I see auto apparently still picked wodim to do the burn. I still have to switch the burning app from auto to growiosfs to make k3b work properly. Tom, thanks, It was set to auto. Now I know that by setting it to cdrecord it will work for me so no need to recompile a srpm. -- Brian Millett - [ Lady Ladira, Signs and Portents] I see death, destruction, fire. Babylon will fall - this place will be destroyed. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Duplicate accounts?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/28/2011 06:54 PM, Steve Ellis wrote: On 2/28/2011 3:23 PM, Larry Brower wrote: I would say this all depends on the application being invoked and would still say it is bad to just use * as opposed to say ./* I can't count the number of people Ive seen do things like rm -rf * in a directory and it recursively started working on / and /bin etc... Not to be a pest, but if you worry about '*' expanding to include dotfiles, then why do you think that './*' is safe? Furthermore, '*' expansion is handled by the shell, not the application--in other words, dotglob rules the day. The '*' there will just as well include dotfiles (i.e., it won't unless dotglob is set as another poster indicated). I definitely agree that caution is warranted when using '*' in any command that can do horrible things to your files, especially for things like 'rm -rf', but don't travel under the misconception that './*' is going to save your bacon--because it won't. -se ./ explicitly specifies the CWD so what is your basis for saying it wont? While I will admit there could be other factors at play for rm recursively working on the systems Ive seen it happen on I can't say with certainty that there was as files like /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc were already removed by the time I had to work on the issue. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJNbFOIAAoJEBgaXYoZ++87XkAIAIzlq2qo6+Y2gG+DVOd0vXfa g9dMYgqhn7Z6UOkbFoLVKY7Jb/fksivp04Np4Y2+psksqrL+6ZqWjCDZVQ4ukwU0 zHFQDpEg4Tw9oXL2qHPVK407XH7ibIp2wKU5nql7X2y3F3qC6ji0l2TzclR18cRm lj/gF+YFUtgEajWf2qgmv9cnCZuRJA5qpL9vwml/DPiEo4D2Bz/hfV9Bl2vvQypY yc+0nhJJZKmG/mnPAnamluU5DnvGr99z2sk01o6zff1J9fznI/pMXC+9gxZWb12W MLVynsp9IHD0Ir63xCsBLXUnJ2NJmvGErcsltQnOmwoppUKT/PyIYwVaFylzNJA= =E6zh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC15 and GNOME3
On 02/28/2011 11:34 PM, James McKenzie wrote: Agreed. If I want lid close, suspend, let me select it. If I don't, let me select it. It is configurable via dconf. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can not open Desktop effects on FC14
I am sorry. I was busy for work these days, so I reinstalled fedora..I think it will happen if I install some updates..Thanks all the way! 2011/2/24 JB jb.1234a...@gmail.com Yunchi Wang wyunchilovechina at gmail.com writes: ... Make sure package ABRT is installed. $ yum info abrt $ yum list abrt Run your program from menu System-Preferences-Desktop Effects or from xterm. This should produce a dump (backtrace) that will be filed automatically, or if not then you can extract it manually from ABRT with copy/paste (look for backtrace, in particular): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ There are already desktop-effects related bugs (you can browse them by key word desktop-effects, if you want to get familiar with how to file a bug, etc). Please attach that desktop-effects.out file to the assigned Bug Report # as well - it may help. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- a green hand of opensource and linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC15 and GNOME3
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/28/2011 11:34 PM, James McKenzie wrote: Agreed. If I want lid close, suspend, let me select it. If I don't, let me select it. It is configurable via dconf. Which is where one of the reasons given for not providing a GUI way of changing lid-close behavior breaks down; From http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/on-laptop-lids-and-power-settings/ First, it increases integration between software and hardware. GNOME becomes identified with the behaviour of the device in question, not just the software that runs on it. It’s about designing the behaviour of the whole product. So, when using someone else's laptop, you'll never know whether the she/he has used dconf to change that setting or not. So GNOME 3's behavior won't necessarily be consistent. Of course, if the dconf option hadn't been made available, the discussions would've been even more robust. But the justification for this change is dishonest and feels very much like the choice was made on the basis of this is what we want to impose on our users or we want GNOME 3 to behave like OS X (I'm typing the latter on an OS X-powered MacBook Pro and as an owner of an iPhone and an iPad so I'm not a Mac-hater) but the developers wanted to try not to *seem* arrogant or exhibit OS X envy... :( -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Duplicate accounts?
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 20:01 -0600, Larry Brower wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/28/2011 06:54 PM, Steve Ellis wrote: On 2/28/2011 3:23 PM, Larry Brower wrote: I would say this all depends on the application being invoked and would still say it is bad to just use * as opposed to say ./* I can't count the number of people Ive seen do things like rm -rf * in a directory and it recursively started working on / and /bin etc... Not to be a pest, but if you worry about '*' expanding to include dotfiles, then why do you think that './*' is safe? Furthermore, '*' expansion is handled by the shell, not the application--in other words, dotglob rules the day. The '*' there will just as well include dotfiles (i.e., it won't unless dotglob is set as another poster indicated). I definitely agree that caution is warranted when using '*' in any command that can do horrible things to your files, especially for things like 'rm -rf', but don't travel under the misconception that './*' is going to save your bacon--because it won't. -se ./ explicitly specifies the CWD so what is your basis for saying it wont? While I will admit there could be other factors at play for rm recursively working on the systems Ive seen it happen on I can't say with certainty that there was as files like /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc were already removed by the time I had to work on the issue. You're confusing path searching, which ./ will block (e.g. run ./ls instead of ls) with filename expansion, which ./ will have no effect on. If you do cd /; rm -rf * then bad things will happen. If you do cd /; rm -rf ./* then exactly the same bad things will happen. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Duplicate accounts?
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Larry Brower la...@maxqe.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/28/2011 07:47 AM, Alain Spineux wrote: So I did SUDO -i, and from root as shell I tried to chown -hR * fcassia on the Desktop folder... You must switch the star and our user name chown -hR fcassia * You should also avoid doing chown -R with just a * wildcard as this could possibly recursively follow ../ which would then try and change ownership on things you don't want changed. Out of curiosity how can you configure bash to expand a simple * to include ..? Of course recursive changes are always dangerous since there may be symlinks uncovered in the recursion pointing all over the place ... John -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
RE: Going from Broadcom's sources to wireless card to WPA network
[It seems to take ages for the mailing list to forward posts, so I have taken to cc'ing authors I reply to.] stan wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:58:22 -0800 Suresh Govindachar sgovindac...@yahoo.com wrote: I read http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt carefully; and in each of the following attempts, I made use of the instructions in the README. I tried the rpms: broadcom-wl-5.60.48.36-1.fc13.noarch.rpm kmod-wl-2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64-5.60.48.36-2.fc14.2.x86_64.rpm kmod-wl-5.60.48.36-2.fc14.2.x86_64.rpm which didn't work. Then downloaded sources from http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php and compiled on 2.6.28-18-generic Ubuntu, fc5, and rhel5 -- none of these worked either. ... If you did get them to compile on the old versions, the compiled versions probably wouldn't work on the new version because the library APIs have changed. OK. You could install the development group, and do it all within the live CD environment, but that is a pretty big project also. And unless you put the result somewhere permanent, you will lose it when you shut down. Since the the Live USB from Fedora-14-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso does not have a compiler (it does have make!), the development group to install needs to be pre-compiled. I have room on the internal hard-drive, and I suppose the development group can be installed and used from there. The output of a build of broadcom's sources is just a file that needs to be placed elsewhere. So to set up this development group what needs to be downloaded and what needs to be done with the downloaded stuff? (I now have a wired connection to the internet; I indicate how I got this below.) Then I tried what I should have tried at the very beginning: used an ethernet cable -- but F14 could not detect the network even via the ethernet cable! I haven't used a live CD for a while. Do you have access to a root terminal? If you do you could check what is running as your network service by running the command chkconfig --list | grep 5:on | less. You can page up or down, or use the arrow keys. Typing a q will exit. The network service is either NetworkManager (likely on a live CD) or network, and one, and only one of them should be there. In either case you can run ifconfig eth0 to see if you have a network IP address. And if you don't, run ifdown eth0 to close the connection, and then ifup eth0 to bring it up. If you then run ifconfig eth0 again, you should see an IP address. There must be something strange about the networking hardware on your system. I haven't had any problems with finding a wired ethernet connection for well over 10 years with various distributions of linux. Usually there is a menu under System-Administration-Network that allows you to do the same thing from the GUI. That is, you can tell the networking app to manually try bringing up the connection again. If it doesn't, you can then look in the messages as described below to see why it failed. Thanks for the list of useful commands (provided above and below). I prefer working from the command line (and have been making my life in Windows bearable by using things like MinGW, bash, perl, and vim). I happened to get the wired network to function before I saw Stan's reply email. I did try using the Network icon (in the upper right corner of the default desktop) to refresh the connection, but it didn't help. I noticed that I was plugging in the ethernet cable after the system had booted -- I tried pluggin in the cable before booting -- and got network connection! But it was only partial: I could ping by name (eg, ping yahoo.com passed), but FireFox would not bring up any web-page -- it just kept waiting, with no error message. I then booted Windows -- the ethernet cable was connected while Windows was up; then shut-down Windows and booted into F-14. But even though the cable was plugged in before I booted F-14, I now did not have network connection. I went to the router and put that end of the cable into another slot, came back to F-14, and pressed the apply button on the Network settings dialog box for the etho0 tab. This time the GUI method worked to get me connected -- and Firefox started loading web-pages. I went on to install Adobe's flash plugin, and verified that it worked. Next time I run into a broken wired connection, instead of going to the router physically, I'll try the ifdown/ifup command sequence. In thinking about moving from XP to Linux, I never expected that just getting started with Linux would be such a hassle! Usually it isn't. Of course, different people have different definitions of hassle, and what
Re: random crashes
--- On Sun, 2/27/11, Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/27/11, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote: TO: OP If you think it's specifically a Fedora problem (I don't), I would install Me neither. It's just that I still think it's possible that it's not a HW problem. (a real dual boot install--not a LiveCD) distro other than Fedora that has the same versions of kernel, GNOME, etc. to see if the problem persists. Then try one that has different kernel, etc. Is there a reason why a real install is better in this case? The disk can be exercised with a live cd, too. Of course, one is constrained to the applications that are on the cd, but still... And finding a distro with the same components is probably impossible. Installing the test distro in the same environment as the purported problem distro is the better way to evaluate problems. I've discovered by experience that live distros, Fedora's particularly, don't behave the same as if you install them to the hard drive. For example, I had one Fedora LiveCD that was slow to boot (5 or 6 minutes), erred on some of the hardware, got the video wrong, too--I corrected it manually--etc., but when I installed it, it got everything correct. Go figure. BTW, the iso file and CD burn of that LiveCD checksummed good. I use LiveCDs only for fixing broken installs or initially testing hardware compatibility. For installation, I prefer the Install version of a distro, if it has one, rather than installing the Live version. BTW, I'm running a 32 bit live cd now and it's been chugging along under heavyish load (load avg above 4) with no problems. Doesn't mean a thing, of course... But if it goes on like this, then trying the 64 bit live cd or installing the 32 bit version of F14 will probably make sense. Hope everything turns out well. B -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
