Re: [one-users] OpenNebula + DHCP

2010-11-30 Thread Leonardo Bergesio
Hi, I have this problem and I tried that solution, but how do you do to 
configure the VM image to use DHCP, is it in the context scripts?

Thanks,

Leonardo

El 30/11/2010 8:24, Manish Sapariya escribió:

+1
This is exactly what I do. The downside for
me is that I do not control the DHCP server
and it brings its own problems, mostly operational.
Thanks and Regards,
Manish

On 11/30/2010 5:36 AM, carsten.friedr...@csiro.au wrote:

There is (at least) one more, which I think is the most general and easy to run 
once set up, if:

* You want the VMs to be part of your general network.
* You have a DHCP server in your general network.
* You have a fixed set of addresses you want to VMs to use and which are not 
used by any other machines on the network.

Then:

* Create a bridge on all cloud nodes with the same name (e.g. br0) and bind the 
NICs on each server to it.
* Create a OpenNebula virtual network with fixed, free addresses like:
NAME = Small network
TYPE = FIXED

BRIDGE = br0
LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.65]
LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.66]
LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.67]
LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.72]
LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.73]
...
...

* Add entries to your DHCP server binding the MAC address OpenNebula will 
generate for the VM to the corresponding fixed IP. (the MAC address will be a 
configurable prefix + the IP address in hex).
* Configure your VM images to use DHCP.

Now, when you start a VM, it will get a MAC address from OpenNebula (no context 
necessary) and then an IP address from your DHCP server.

Carsten


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[mailto:users-boun...@lists.opennebula.org] On Behalf Of Ruben S. Montero
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2010 6:32
To: SZÉKELYI Szabolcs
Cc:users@lists.opennebula.org
Subject: Re: [one-users] Opennebula + DHCP

Hi

There are three options to set up networking for a VM:

1.- Use static IPs, i.e hard-coded in the VM image. This is useful for
well-known services, but usually people do not use this approach as
it prevents an install once deploy many strategy

2.- Use specialized networking VMs,  that runs a DHCP server and
probably any other network related services (DNS, VPN server, routers,
proxy of any kind). This is useful for VM packs, where you define
vnets. Vnets in OpenNebula can be implemented with ebtables (works
out-of-the-box, see [1]) and with VLAN at the switch level (either
setting the vnets before hand, or with a hook to configure the swtich,
e.g. openvswitch)

3.- Context. Context is not just for passing network config parameters
but also for basic service configuration attributes (e.g. ssh keys).
This is  the best approach for stand-alone VMs and probably also for
the virtual network example. It only requires to prepare network configuration
script of the OS to get the IP from the context device.

However, the best approach should be more or less clear depending on
the use-case you are trying to deploy, the networking of your cloud...

Cheers

Ruben

[1]http://www.opennebula.org/documentation:rel2.0:nm

2010/11/28 SZÉKELYI Szabolcsszeke...@niif.hu:

On 2010. November 27. 18:01:24 Steven Timm wrote:

I have never used opennebula with a dhcp server but I think you would
have either have to use the contextualization scripts to pass in
a modified ifcfg-eth0 that calls for DHCP address, or save a special
original image that has them already.  Also you would have to configure
the onevnet so you knew which range of MAC addresses your machines were
going to have.

Being badly dissatisfied with contextualization (there's no ifcfg-eth0 on
Debian-based systems for example, not mentioning non-GNU/Linux OSes), we
solved this problem by implementing DHCP on our virtual networks. On VM
creation, a hook script registers the MAC address and the IP address in the
DHCP server that assigns it to the VM upon DHCP request. This requires the
machine running the DHCP server (or a DHCP relay) to have an interface in the
network used for VMs, but this is usually not a problem as long as you use
802.1q tagged virtual networks. This can be implemented for ebtables-based
vnets as well, but requires a bit tricker setup.

I can provide you with more deatils or even code if interested, but currently
I don't have time to make proper redistributable and configurable packages.

Cheers,
--
cc



On Sat, 27 Nov 2010, Tim Bordemann wrote:

Hi,

I'm currently evaluating Opennebula for a university's project.
So far I installed Opennebula and am able to start virtual machines on
the server nodes.
Unfortunately I am not sure, how to configure Opennebula or the virtual
machine template so that the vm gets it's IP address from the
DHCP-server. Could anyone please send me a sample vm template?

Thanks in advance.
Tim

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Re: [one-users] OpenNebula + DHCP

2010-11-30 Thread Ruben S. Montero
Good one :)


Cheers

Ruben

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:06 AM,  carsten.friedr...@csiro.au wrote:
 There is (at least) one more, which I think is the most general and easy to 
 run once set up, if:

 * You want the VMs to be part of your general network.
 * You have a DHCP server in your general network.
 * You have a fixed set of addresses you want to VMs to use and which are not 
 used by any other machines on the network.

 Then:

 * Create a bridge on all cloud nodes with the same name (e.g. br0) and bind 
 the NICs on each server to it.
 * Create a OpenNebula virtual network with fixed, free addresses like:
 NAME = Small network
 TYPE = FIXED

 BRIDGE = br0
 LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.65]
 LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.66]
 LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.67]
 LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.72]
 LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.73]
 ...
 ...

 * Add entries to your DHCP server binding the MAC address OpenNebula will 
 generate for the VM to the corresponding fixed IP. (the MAC address will be a 
 configurable prefix + the IP address in hex).
 * Configure your VM images to use DHCP.

 Now, when you start a VM, it will get a MAC address from OpenNebula (no 
 context necessary) and then an IP address from your DHCP server.

 Carsten


 -Original Message-
 From: users-boun...@lists.opennebula.org 
 [mailto:users-boun...@lists.opennebula.org] On Behalf Of Ruben S. Montero
 Sent: Monday, 29 November 2010 6:32
 To: SZÉKELYI Szabolcs
 Cc: users@lists.opennebula.org
 Subject: Re: [one-users] Opennebula + DHCP

 Hi

 There are three options to set up networking for a VM:

 1.- Use static IPs, i.e hard-coded in the VM image. This is useful for
 well-known services, but usually people do not use this approach as
 it prevents an install once deploy many strategy

 2.- Use specialized networking VMs,  that runs a DHCP server and
 probably any other network related services (DNS, VPN server, routers,
 proxy of any kind). This is useful for VM packs, where you define
 vnets. Vnets in OpenNebula can be implemented with ebtables (works
 out-of-the-box, see [1]) and with VLAN at the switch level (either
 setting the vnets before hand, or with a hook to configure the swtich,
 e.g. openvswitch)

 3.- Context. Context is not just for passing network config parameters
 but also for basic service configuration attributes (e.g. ssh keys).
 This is  the best approach for stand-alone VMs and probably also for
 the virtual network example. It only requires to prepare network configuration
 script of the OS to get the IP from the context device.

 However, the best approach should be more or less clear depending on
 the use-case you are trying to deploy, the networking of your cloud...

 Cheers

 Ruben

 [1] http://www.opennebula.org/documentation:rel2.0:nm

 2010/11/28 SZÉKELYI Szabolcs szeke...@niif.hu:
 On 2010. November 27. 18:01:24 Steven Timm wrote:
 I have never used opennebula with a dhcp server but I think you would
 have either have to use the contextualization scripts to pass in
 a modified ifcfg-eth0 that calls for DHCP address, or save a special
 original image that has them already.  Also you would have to configure
 the onevnet so you knew which range of MAC addresses your machines were
 going to have.

 Being badly dissatisfied with contextualization (there's no ifcfg-eth0 on
 Debian-based systems for example, not mentioning non-GNU/Linux OSes), we
 solved this problem by implementing DHCP on our virtual networks. On VM
 creation, a hook script registers the MAC address and the IP address in the
 DHCP server that assigns it to the VM upon DHCP request. This requires the
 machine running the DHCP server (or a DHCP relay) to have an interface in the
 network used for VMs, but this is usually not a problem as long as you use
 802.1q tagged virtual networks. This can be implemented for ebtables-based
 vnets as well, but requires a bit tricker setup.

 I can provide you with more deatils or even code if interested, but currently
 I don't have time to make proper redistributable and configurable packages.

 Cheers,
 --
 cc


 On Sat, 27 Nov 2010, Tim Bordemann wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm currently evaluating Opennebula for a university's project.
  So far I installed Opennebula and am able to start virtual machines on
  the server nodes.
  Unfortunately I am not sure, how to configure Opennebula or the virtual
  machine template so that the vm gets it's IP address from the
  DHCP-server. Could anyone please send me a sample vm template?
 
  Thanks in advance.
  Tim
 
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Re: [one-users] OpenNebula + DHCP

2010-11-29 Thread Carsten.Friedrich
There is (at least) one more, which I think is the most general and easy to run 
once set up, if: 

* You want the VMs to be part of your general network.
* You have a DHCP server in your general network.
* You have a fixed set of addresses you want to VMs to use and which are not 
used by any other machines on the network.

Then:

* Create a bridge on all cloud nodes with the same name (e.g. br0) and bind the 
NICs on each server to it.
* Create a OpenNebula virtual network with fixed, free addresses like:
NAME = Small network
TYPE = FIXED

BRIDGE = br0
LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.65]
LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.66]
LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.67]
LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.72]
LEASES = [ IP=x.y.z.73]
...
...

* Add entries to your DHCP server binding the MAC address OpenNebula will 
generate for the VM to the corresponding fixed IP. (the MAC address will be a 
configurable prefix + the IP address in hex).
* Configure your VM images to use DHCP.

Now, when you start a VM, it will get a MAC address from OpenNebula (no context 
necessary) and then an IP address from your DHCP server. 

Carsten


-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@lists.opennebula.org 
[mailto:users-boun...@lists.opennebula.org] On Behalf Of Ruben S. Montero
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2010 6:32
To: SZÉKELYI Szabolcs
Cc: users@lists.opennebula.org
Subject: Re: [one-users] Opennebula + DHCP

Hi

There are three options to set up networking for a VM:

1.- Use static IPs, i.e hard-coded in the VM image. This is useful for
well-known services, but usually people do not use this approach as
it prevents an install once deploy many strategy

2.- Use specialized networking VMs,  that runs a DHCP server and
probably any other network related services (DNS, VPN server, routers,
proxy of any kind). This is useful for VM packs, where you define
vnets. Vnets in OpenNebula can be implemented with ebtables (works
out-of-the-box, see [1]) and with VLAN at the switch level (either
setting the vnets before hand, or with a hook to configure the swtich,
e.g. openvswitch)

3.- Context. Context is not just for passing network config parameters
but also for basic service configuration attributes (e.g. ssh keys).
This is  the best approach for stand-alone VMs and probably also for
the virtual network example. It only requires to prepare network configuration
script of the OS to get the IP from the context device.

However, the best approach should be more or less clear depending on
the use-case you are trying to deploy, the networking of your cloud...

Cheers

Ruben

[1] http://www.opennebula.org/documentation:rel2.0:nm

2010/11/28 SZÉKELYI Szabolcs szeke...@niif.hu:
 On 2010. November 27. 18:01:24 Steven Timm wrote:
 I have never used opennebula with a dhcp server but I think you would
 have either have to use the contextualization scripts to pass in
 a modified ifcfg-eth0 that calls for DHCP address, or save a special
 original image that has them already.  Also you would have to configure
 the onevnet so you knew which range of MAC addresses your machines were
 going to have.

 Being badly dissatisfied with contextualization (there's no ifcfg-eth0 on
 Debian-based systems for example, not mentioning non-GNU/Linux OSes), we
 solved this problem by implementing DHCP on our virtual networks. On VM
 creation, a hook script registers the MAC address and the IP address in the
 DHCP server that assigns it to the VM upon DHCP request. This requires the
 machine running the DHCP server (or a DHCP relay) to have an interface in the
 network used for VMs, but this is usually not a problem as long as you use
 802.1q tagged virtual networks. This can be implemented for ebtables-based
 vnets as well, but requires a bit tricker setup.

 I can provide you with more deatils or even code if interested, but currently
 I don't have time to make proper redistributable and configurable packages.

 Cheers,
 --
 cc


 On Sat, 27 Nov 2010, Tim Bordemann wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm currently evaluating Opennebula for a university's project.
  So far I installed Opennebula and am able to start virtual machines on
  the server nodes.
  Unfortunately I am not sure, how to configure Opennebula or the virtual
  machine template so that the vm gets it's IP address from the
  DHCP-server. Could anyone please send me a sample vm template?
 
  Thanks in advance.
  Tim
 
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Re: [one-users] Opennebula + DHCP

2010-11-28 Thread SZÉKELYI Szabolcs
On 2010. November 27. 18:01:24 Steven Timm wrote:
 I have never used opennebula with a dhcp server but I think you would
 have either have to use the contextualization scripts to pass in
 a modified ifcfg-eth0 that calls for DHCP address, or save a special
 original image that has them already.  Also you would have to configure
 the onevnet so you knew which range of MAC addresses your machines were
 going to have.

Being badly dissatisfied with contextualization (there's no ifcfg-eth0 on 
Debian-based systems for example, not mentioning non-GNU/Linux OSes), we 
solved this problem by implementing DHCP on our virtual networks. On VM 
creation, a hook script registers the MAC address and the IP address in the 
DHCP server that assigns it to the VM upon DHCP request. This requires the 
machine running the DHCP server (or a DHCP relay) to have an interface in the 
network used for VMs, but this is usually not a problem as long as you use 
802.1q tagged virtual networks. This can be implemented for ebtables-based 
vnets as well, but requires a bit tricker setup.

I can provide you with more deatils or even code if interested, but currently 
I don't have time to make proper redistributable and configurable packages.

Cheers,
-- 
cc


 On Sat, 27 Nov 2010, Tim Bordemann wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I'm currently evaluating Opennebula for a university's project.
  So far I installed Opennebula and am able to start virtual machines on
  the server nodes.
  Unfortunately I am not sure, how to configure Opennebula or the virtual
  machine template so that the vm gets it's IP address from the
  DHCP-server. Could anyone please send me a sample vm template?
  
  Thanks in advance.
  Tim
  
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Re: [one-users] Opennebula + DHCP

2010-11-28 Thread Ruben S. Montero
Hi

There are three options to set up networking for a VM:

1.- Use static IPs, i.e hard-coded in the VM image. This is useful for
well-known services, but usually people do not use this approach as
it prevents an install once deploy many strategy

2.- Use specialized networking VMs,  that runs a DHCP server and
probably any other network related services (DNS, VPN server, routers,
proxy of any kind). This is useful for VM packs, where you define
vnets. Vnets in OpenNebula can be implemented with ebtables (works
out-of-the-box, see [1]) and with VLAN at the switch level (either
setting the vnets before hand, or with a hook to configure the swtich,
e.g. openvswitch)

3.- Context. Context is not just for passing network config parameters
but also for basic service configuration attributes (e.g. ssh keys).
This is  the best approach for stand-alone VMs and probably also for
the virtual network example. It only requires to prepare network configuration
script of the OS to get the IP from the context device.

However, the best approach should be more or less clear depending on
the use-case you are trying to deploy, the networking of your cloud...

Cheers

Ruben

[1] http://www.opennebula.org/documentation:rel2.0:nm

2010/11/28 SZÉKELYI Szabolcs szeke...@niif.hu:
 On 2010. November 27. 18:01:24 Steven Timm wrote:
 I have never used opennebula with a dhcp server but I think you would
 have either have to use the contextualization scripts to pass in
 a modified ifcfg-eth0 that calls for DHCP address, or save a special
 original image that has them already.  Also you would have to configure
 the onevnet so you knew which range of MAC addresses your machines were
 going to have.

 Being badly dissatisfied with contextualization (there's no ifcfg-eth0 on
 Debian-based systems for example, not mentioning non-GNU/Linux OSes), we
 solved this problem by implementing DHCP on our virtual networks. On VM
 creation, a hook script registers the MAC address and the IP address in the
 DHCP server that assigns it to the VM upon DHCP request. This requires the
 machine running the DHCP server (or a DHCP relay) to have an interface in the
 network used for VMs, but this is usually not a problem as long as you use
 802.1q tagged virtual networks. This can be implemented for ebtables-based
 vnets as well, but requires a bit tricker setup.

 I can provide you with more deatils or even code if interested, but currently
 I don't have time to make proper redistributable and configurable packages.

 Cheers,
 --
 cc


 On Sat, 27 Nov 2010, Tim Bordemann wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm currently evaluating Opennebula for a university's project.
  So far I installed Opennebula and am able to start virtual machines on
  the server nodes.
  Unfortunately I am not sure, how to configure Opennebula or the virtual
  machine template so that the vm gets it's IP address from the
  DHCP-server. Could anyone please send me a sample vm template?
 
  Thanks in advance.
  Tim
 
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Re: [one-users] Opennebula + DHCP

2010-11-27 Thread Steven Timm


I have never used opennebula with a dhcp server but I think you would
have either have to use the contextualization scripts to pass in
a modified ifcfg-eth0 that calls for DHCP address, or save a special
original image that has them already.  Also you would have to configure
the onevnet so you knew which range of MAC addresses your machines were
going to have.

Steve Timm


On Sat, 27 Nov 2010, Tim Bordemann wrote:


Hi,

I'm currently evaluating Opennebula for a university's project.
So far I installed Opennebula and am able to start virtual machines on
the server nodes.
Unfortunately I am not sure, how to configure Opennebula or the virtual
machine template so that the vm gets it's IP address from the
DHCP-server. Could anyone please send me a sample vm template?

Thanks in advance.
Tim

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