Re: [users] 64 bit flash-plugin and 64 bit Firefox question

2011-09-05 Thread Bryan J Smith
Did you open a Ticket? Or just a Bugzilla?

And what you're saying here is that backports should never be done with 
Firefox? What about for those with many desktop profiles?

Todd And Margo Chester toddandma...@gmail.com wrote:

On 09/04/2011 08:01 PM, Bryan J Smith wrote:
 Did you actually verify Red Hat failed to backport a fix? Or did you 
 just expect the newer version? You are not making the distinction in 
 your posts.

Hi Bryan,

It was years ago, so my memory is a bit challenged, but my recollection
was that I posted to Red Hat's bugzilla a couple of times with the Cert
exploit and all.  I got ignored.   And they did not just forget to
update
the bugzilla as I saw no updates of any kind go through.  What I took
from the experience was this is not something to waste your time on.

My technical opinion: I would not run an out dated browser.  The
security
danger you place yourself in does not merit any perceived stability
advantage of an older version.   I part company with Red Hat on this
one.  (Mozilla.org's binaries work fine.)

-T
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Re: [users] 64 bit flash-plugin and 64 bit Firefox question

2011-09-05 Thread Bryan J Smith
Really? Has there been the same with EL5 as well? I'm just speaking from 
experience here, I suggests otherwise.

Do enterprises really pick from various repos and aggregate them, hoping they 
are updated? with securing fixes?

And I thought we're weren't talking latest. I thought we were talking a 3rd 
standard between Fedora and EL?

Most enterprises I've worked in have an annual build standard and refresh 
desktop software every 18-24 months.

In just 18 months we'll be looking at Fedora 19, which is a far cry from Fedora 
12/13 (EL6). Maybe EL7 will be out by then, maybe not.

I just see a lot of gaps and questions, just like back for EL5. On the other 
foot, there is a real call by Fedora with something more exacting. Just had to 
point that out.

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Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote:

On 09/05/2011 04:15 AM, Bryan J Smith wrote:

 I know most people would love to be able to run with Fedora for 18+ months, 
 instead of only 12+ months.
 That would solve most of the current desires for what you, among 
others, seek out of EL or EL rebuilds.

Curently, and for 2-3 years at least, Any/many packages for Fedora are 
easy to recompile for EL6. It will get more complicated with time, but 
there will always be third party repositories that will offer newer 
version. You just need someone that will monitor patches made and update 
regularly.
So there is no need for this discussion.

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Re: [users] 64 bit flash-plugin and 64 bit Firefox question

2011-09-05 Thread Dag Wieers
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote:

 On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 20:43 -0700, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:

 My technical opinion: I would not run an out dated browser.

 I am not against you expressing your technical opinions, but please feel
 free do so on an appropriate list (I am sure such lists do exist),
 otherwise it's just decreases the SNR and fills subscribers' inboxes
 with irrelevant information.

As Yury noted a few times, can we all end this thread here ?

I am not very fond of moderating this list, so I expect everyone to think 
about whether a reply is to the benefit of all subscribers, or just a 
reiteration to make your point across. In some cases, continuing the 
discussion in private is a good way to come to a better understanding.

Anyway, as of today Yury is a list moderator and has the authority to do 
pretty much as he pleases, so don't make him angry and stay on topic ;-)

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[users] CentOS 6: snort, fwlogwatch, initlog

2011-09-05 Thread Helmut Drodofsky
Hallo,
 
I have installed fwlogwatch from rpmforge.repo.
 
fwlogwatch needs initlog. Line 27:
 
  initlog -c $FWLOGWATCH -R -A -X 888 -Pn  success || failure
 
 
In CentOS 5 initlog is part of the CentOS installation. 
 
Initlog is not recognized as a dependency if installation is in CentOS 6. 
 
Even 
yum provides */initlog 
 
has no results.
 
In Linux Archive 
http://www.linux-archive.org/centos/491966-initlog-deprecated.html
 
Is written: initlog is deprecated. What software will replace initlog?
 
 
Thank you for help in advance.
 
Best regards 
 
Helmut
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