Re: Best practices for seperate releases of parent and modules

2008-01-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Jan 21, 2008 10:42 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it advisable to move the commons-parent to another subdirectory or is this 
 layout the preferred way?

I was experiencing with the former, but gave it up. The reason is that
far too many plugins are not suitable to use it. Examples include:

  - The SCM URL must be configured in every subproject. Otherwise the
SCM links on the
generated site will be broken.
  - The distribution URL's must be configured in every subproject.
Otherwise deployment
will use the wrong target URL.

And so on.


Jochen



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Best practices for seperate releases of parent and modules

2008-01-21 Thread nicklist
At our company we are busy with a commons project, which has a few submodules. 
Our current layout is:

commons-parent/
   commons-module-1/
  pom.xml
  src/
   commons-module-2/
   commons-module-3/
   pom.xml

Now we want to do seperate releases of the commons-parent and the modules, just 
like the Maven plugins.

Is it advisable to move the commons-parent to another subdirectory or is this 
layout the preferred way?

I mean the following layout:
commons/
   commons-parent/
  pom.xml
   commons-module-1/
  pom.xml
  src/
   commons-module-2/
   commons-module-3/

With regards,

Nick Stolwijk


RE: Best practices for seperate releases of parent and modules

2008-01-21 Thread nicklist
But when you release the parent, do you also release all the submodules or do 
you run mvn with non-recursive?

With regards,

Nick Stolwijk


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From: Jochen Wiedmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 1/21/2008 10:52 AM
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Subject: Re: Best practices for seperate releases of parent and modules
 
On Jan 21, 2008 10:42 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it advisable to move the commons-parent to another subdirectory or is this 
 layout the preferred way?

I was experiencing with the former, but gave it up. The reason is that
far too many plugins are not suitable to use it. Examples include:

  - The SCM URL must be configured in every subproject. Otherwise the
SCM links on the
generated site will be broken.
  - The distribution URL's must be configured in every subproject.
Otherwise deployment
will use the wrong target URL.

And so on.


Jochen



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Re: Best practices for seperate releases of parent and modules

2008-01-21 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Jan 21, 2008 11:00 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But when you release the parent, do you also release all the submodules or do 
 you run mvn with non-recursive?

If the parent hasn't changed (in other words, if it hasn't a SNAPSHOT
version), then I am happy to release the submodules only. To be
honest, that if requires a certain degree of cautiousness. My
recommended approach to resolve that is to provide read-only access to
the parent for most developers except a few selected.

Jochen



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RE: Best practices for seperate releases of parent and modules

2008-01-21 Thread nicklist
But normally the trunk should always contain a SNAPSHOT version, but only the 
submodules don't have it as parent as long as they don't need to rely on the 
changes in the parent. But if you use the release plugin to release the parent, 
will the tag contain only the parent or all the submodules as well? If I look 
at the maven plugins [1] tags the release contains all the modules (with 
SNAPSHOT-versions), but the tags directory also contains a tag for each release 
of the modules (without SNAPSHOT-versions).

So it seems they run mvn non recursively, but it is still tagging the whole 
tree. Seems a little strange to me.

With regards,

Nick Stolwijk


-Original Message-
From: Jochen Wiedmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 1/21/2008 11:39 AM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: Best practices for seperate releases of parent and modules
 
On Jan 21, 2008 11:00 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But when you release the parent, do you also release all the submodules or do 
 you run mvn with non-recursive?

If the parent hasn't changed (in other words, if it hasn't a SNAPSHOT
version), then I am happy to release the submodules only. To be
honest, that if requires a certain degree of cautiousness. My
recommended approach to resolve that is to provide read-only access to
the parent for most developers except a few selected.

Jochen



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RE: Best practices for seperate releases of parent and modules

2008-01-21 Thread nicklist
In my opinion, trunk is the development version aka SNAPSHOT. Only the tags 
should contain the released version number. Each module should provide the 
parent version it needs and can only be released if that is a non-SNAPSHOT 
version.

With regards,

Nick Stolwijk


-Original Message-
From: Jochen Wiedmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 1/21/2008 11:58 AM
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Subject: Re: Best practices for seperate releases of parent and modules
 
On Jan 21, 2008 11:48 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But normally the trunk should always contain a SNAPSHOT version, but only the 
 submodules don't
 have it as parent as long as they don't need to rely on the changes in the 
 parent.

I do not know, why it should. We do not do it that way.


 But if you use the release plugin to release the parent, will the tag contain 
 only the parent or all the submodules as well?

That depends on the level on which we cut the release.


Jochen


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Re: Best practices for seperate releases of parent and modules

2008-01-21 Thread Michael McCallum
annoying indeed but you only have  to set the scm urls once in the each 
artifact and with an archetype well only once.

i think its dumb to have the parent of several modules the same... if you 
think OO then the parent of any artifact should define common behaviour for 
articfacts of that type... so you should have a jar parent, webapp parent etc 
etc... and usually an aggregation of modules crosses concerns e.g. server, 
client, common code, persistence, api

it seems really obvious to me, maybe i'm missing something

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:52:09 Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
 On Jan 21, 2008 10:42 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is it advisable to move the commons-parent to another subdirectory or is
  this layout the preferred way?

 I was experiencing with the former, but gave it up. The reason is that
 far too many plugins are not suitable to use it. Examples include:

   - The SCM URL must be configured in every subproject. Otherwise the
 SCM links on the
 generated site will be broken.
   - The distribution URL's must be configured in every subproject.
 Otherwise deployment
 will use the wrong target URL.

 And so on.


 Jochen



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