Re: Openoffice is terrible

2014-10-19 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:42:52 -0500
Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

 lots of replies for someone that never came back to clarify its point.
 Is clearly a spam email.
snip

[RoryOF] There have been other emails in this thread towards the same point, 
which I won't quote. The INVALID marker in the yahoo.com address seems to be 
added by the Apache listkeeper and must be removed manually before replying to 
the OP.  I have received a personal reply from him which elaborates on the 
points he makes.  Below I echo this to the list. I am not a Calc user in other  
than the most trivial sense (one A4 page of simple calculation); I have also 
not used a Mac in 35+ years, so am beyond my knowledge in this. [/RoryOF] 

Detailed email received:
-
Thanks Rory.  The file I downloaded was the full installation for Mac OSX 
64-bit DMG at http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html

I mainly use it for the spreadsheets.  I'm somewhat reticent to try it again 
but at this point I have a bunch of spreadsheets in the .ods format now and the 
idea of converting them to use in Excel (which, if it weren't for the bugs in 
Openoffice, would actually be an inferior program in some respects).  


I'm willing to accept the issue with my middle mouse button may be something 
more complicated.  I remember uninstalilng an earlier version of Openoffice and 
the problem went away.  I don't honestly have many times when I wish to use it, 
so it's one of the lesser issues.  However now having uninstalled version 4.1 
the issue still persists, so for all I know, it is something else, despite the 
fact that I thought i had pinned it down to Openoffice.  


The other weird thing is that I was using 4.0 but now when I go to that same 
link and try to download a full installation for 4.0, it says that there is 
none available for my system.  I don't know how I installed it before if there 
is no installer for it.  


By far the most annoying bug from 4.0 was the scrollbar issue.  As mentioned, 
with large spreadsheets, scrolling down very far caused it to be very difficult 
to return up.  You could do it, but it would go very slowly.  It would not let 
you drag the bar up as quickly as you wanted.  You could scroll up with the 
middle mouse wheel but that would take forever with the size of documents I'm 
talking about (I'm not sure what the cut-off was, but imagine several hundreds 
to thousands of rows of spreadsheet).  Usually I would just have to return to 
the top by searching for known contents of an earlier cell or using the go to 
cell feature, which is obnoxious.  And I know I'm not the only one who has 
this problem because I've read about it as a known issue.  Whether or not it 
persists in 4.1 I have no idea because the program wouldn't even launch 
completely.  


Overall, I wish that Openoffice would work better because there are advantages 
to it.  An .ods spreadsheet is much smaller than an .xls file of the exact same 
spreadsheet, for one.  I believe the find function is also better in 
Openoffice than Excel (at least the version I have).  I admit that not being 
able to even sign up for the support forum was the thing that broke my patience 
entirely, plus the inability to now even revert to using the version of the 
program I had been using for lack of installer.  

By the way, if you're curious, I'm using a Mac Pro 2.1, 2 x 3ghz Quad core 
Intel Xeon with 16 gb of RAM (most support people inevitably want to know what 
your system is).  



On Saturday, October 18, 2014 4:27 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
 


On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:08:50 -0700
michael sintros mbsint...@yahoo.com.INVALID wrote:

 Your software is so terrible that I lack the appropriate words to describe 
 it.  I have used version 4.0 for a long time now.  It functions... barely.  
 Using the side scroll bar in large documents, once you scroll to the bottom, 
 it will not let you scroll back up.  This is incredibly mindbogglingly 
 annoying.  The software also hijacks my middle mouse button and regardless of 
 the application, will not function at all if the software is installed at 
 all.  This is not only annoying but creepy.  Why if Openoffice is installed 
 but not even open does it affect the behavior of other programs.  Ridiculous. 
  
 
 
 Now I see that 4.1 has been released.  With hope that some of these issues 
 would be fixed I installed it on my computer.  It took several minutes for 
 the program to not even open at all, giving me not responding messages, 
 hijacking my computer so that I couldn't even do things in other applications 
 and finally I had to force quit it.  
 
 
 If all of that weren't bad enough, I went on your support forum to talk 
 about this but I can't even register.  Why?  Who the fuck knows.  It keeps 
 telling me that I need a valid email address even though I've entered my 
 email address about 800 times. 
 
 
 Not only are you people incapable of writing a fully functional program, 

Re : Re: Openoffice is terrible

2014-10-19 Thread hagar . delest
Indeed, OP has subscribed on Fri May 10, 2013. Username: goldenhelix
You can request a new password, with the standard form (forgot password) you 
access from the login page. Note that you can give the username OR the mail 
address, you don't need to fill-in both fields.

Hagar


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users@openoffice.apache.orgCc: michael sintros 
mbsint...@yahoo.comEnvoyeacute;: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 11:18:37 +0200 
(CEST)Objet: Re: Openoffice is terrible

Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:08:50 -0700 michael sintros 
wrote: If all of that weren't bad enough, I went on your support forum to 
talk about this but I can't even register. Why? Who the fuck knows. It keeps 
telling me that I need a valid email address even though I've entered my 
email address about 800 times. ... With regard to your experience logging on 
to the User support forum, I am sure that when a Forum Administrator comes 
online he will look into this.

Apparently one of the 800 times you succeeded. The e-mail address 
mbsintrosATyahoo.com is in use on https://forum.openoffice.org/en , meaning 
that there is an account associated with that e-mail address.

When you registered, you also chose a username and a password. Use those two to 
login.

You can (but you must remember at least the username you chose) have a new 
password e-mailed to you (or have the activation e-mail resent to you) from 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ucp.php?mode=login

If you don't even remember the username you chose, we can investigate it for 
you.

Regards, Andrea.

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Fatal error when exporting a dialogue.

2014-10-19 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
I tried this with the same file in both Apache OpenOffice Calc and
LibreOffice Calc, the same result.

Error message:
Apache OpenOffice Calc: ”StringResourceImpl: No entry for resourceID:”
If I click OK, Apache OpenOffice Calc crash.
The file is saved but loading it doesn't work. Nothing happens.

LibreOffice Calc: ”StringResourceImpl: No entry for resourceID: !!br0ken!!”
LibreOffice Calc crash when clicking OK.
The file is saved but loading it makes LibreOffice Calc crash.

The file is quite big. It takes about 23 seconds to open it with
LibreOffice Calc and 51 seconds with Apache OpenOffice.

Apache OpenOffice 4.1
LibreOffice 4.2
Ubuntu 14.04

My question is:
What does this error message mean?
Can I do anything about it? Like editing my dialogue somehow before trying
to export it? Seems like some parameter somewhere is missing for some
reason.

An earlier version of the dialogue can be exported and imported without any
problems. The difference between the new and the old dialogue is that I
added a label and a number field to the new one. I did that by copying and
editing existing ones. Maybe something was lost during that process.

Any hints will be appreciated. I guess I could just start all over again
and create a new one, but I want to know (if possible) what's wrong with
the one I already have.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ


Re: Openoffice is terrible

2014-10-19 Thread mt
Could I add my two bob's worth, as a long-time Mac  Calc user. 
I am assuming the following was written by Michael (who is 
receiving this in copy), even though I found it in Rory's message:


On 19/10/14 at 5:59 PM, ofarr...@iol.ie (Rory O'Farrell) wrote:

By far the most annoying bug from 4.0 was the scrollbar issue.  
As mentioned, with large spreadsheets, scrolling down very far 
caused it to be very difficult to return up.  You could do it, 
but it would go very slowly.  It would not let you drag the bar 
up as quickly as you wanted.  You could scroll up with the 
middle mouse wheel but that would take forever with the size of 
documents I'm talking about 


Are you familiar with the Cmd+arrow (up or down) key 
combination? I've found this to be by far the fastest way to 
scroll up and down long spreadsheets, as it brings up (or down) 
the last empty or filled cell.


Alternatively, if you want to scroll to a certain point, you 
can simply click once to select any cell, and then keep the 
required arrow pressed until you reach the desired cell. Or you 
can use the Find command to locate any cell with given data.


In fact, your point made me realise I never use the scrollbar! :-)

Hope this helps a bit,

marina


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Re: Openoffice is terrible

2014-10-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Martin Groenescheij wrote:

the OP email address is quite strange: mbsint...@yahoo.com.INVALID


The .INVALID is added by the Apache mailing list management software, 
and it is a workaround to circumvent a new policy in use at Yahoo. See 
the archives of this list or the Apache Infra blog for more information.


So if one wants to CC the original poster it is enough to remove 
.INVALID and only keep yahoo.com, which is what most of us did.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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OS X Yosemite Compatibility

2014-10-19 Thread Daniel Ranich
Good morning. I have been using OpenOffice for many years getting away
from Microsoft’s Works. Converted all my word  excel files into OpenOffice.

In January I switched to a Apple iMac desktop computer and quickly downloaded
OpenOffice.

Question: I have the opportunity to upgrade for free to the new OS X Yosemite 
from
Maverick and would like to know if Openoffice 4.1.1 will work on Yosemite. I 
use it 
daily and need to access the spreadsheet I made for my checking, savings and 
credit
card entries.

Thank you for your great product and your help.

Dan Ranich



RE: OS X Yosemite Compatibility

2014-10-19 Thread chuck ef
Well, I haven't switched to 4.1.1 yet - I am extraordinarily lazy. But I did 
migrate to Yosemite this past Friday and 4.1.0 seems to be fine. I may be 
mistaken but I don't think that x.1 and x.0 are all that different except for a 
nice magic mouse fix. I have been working around that problem so I haven't 
upgraded to x.1.


 From: daniel.ranich8...@yahoo.com.INVALID
 Subject: OS X Yosemite Compatibility 
 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 08:42:31 -0400
 To: users@openoffice.apache.org
 
 Good morning. I have been using OpenOffice for many years getting away
 from Microsoft’s Works. Converted all my word  excel files into OpenOffice.
 
 In January I switched to a Apple iMac desktop computer and quickly downloaded
 OpenOffice.
 
 Question: I have the opportunity to upgrade for free to the new OS X Yosemite 
 from
 Maverick and would like to know if Openoffice 4.1.1 will work on Yosemite. I 
 use it 
 daily and need to access the spreadsheet I made for my checking, savings and 
 credit
 card entries.
 
 Thank you for your great product and your help.
 
 Dan Ranich
 
  

comparing content of cells

2014-10-19 Thread vdven

Hello,

I have a question;

-I have a column with names A , and then several columns (B-F) with 
formula's that result in an empty cell but sometimes in  a name or a 
symbol. (each name has it's own row, and a name cannot pop up in another row)
-On another page a want columns (H-L) that give only those situations 
when a name in A is also found  in B-F

but only the names, without the empty cells inbetween.

So a long list with only a few names and many blancs is reduced to a 
short list of lets say 3 or 4 names


Any way how this can be done?

thnks,

Bryan




Sent from my mobile device.

 On 19 Oct 2014, at 9:01 am, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 10/18/2014 05:42 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
 lots of replies for someone that never came back to clarify its point.
 Is clearly a spam email.

 huge snip
 Or is it likely that the OP did not subscribe to this mailing 
list and has missed all if not many of the comments made? If so, 
not having received them, the OP might be even more angry.

He is not subscribed and my reply to him bounced.
Most of these email problems are wit yahoo the OP email address is 
quite strange: mbsint...@yahoo.com.INVALID


 Or, there is also the possibility that the person is a troll.

 Dan



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Is there a way for a Basic macro to detect what application is running it?

2014-10-19 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Here's my problem:

I have both Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice installed and I use them
both. I have quite a few Calc files with Basic macros. Today I found my
first difference between the Basic API in LibreOffice vs. Apache OpenOffice:

Dim Dlg As Object, Ctl As Object
DialogLibraries.LoadLibrary(Standard)
Dlg=CreateUnoDialog(DialogLibraries.Standard.ElDialog)
Ctl=Dlg.getControl(DateField)

Now, I want to use Ctl.setDate(myDate) and myDate=Ctl.getDate(), and here's
the difference:
In Apache OpenOffice, myDate is a Long. Today's date, 2014-10-19, is
represented as 20141019. I made two functions to convert to and from the
format I needed.

When running my macro in LibreOffice, the macro was interrupted by an error
message, of course. After some debugging I found that the LibreOffice
version of Ctl.setDate/Ctl.getDate works with a struct:
Type DateType
Year As Long
Month As Long
Day As Long
End Type


This is of course not a big deal, I can make the macro accept both formats,
but the macro need to know if LibreOffice or Apache OpenOffice is running
it. How can I do that? I have tried to find the answer myself, both using
xray and searching the web, but so far nothing.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ


Cannot Install OpenOffice v 4.1.1 on Linux

2014-10-19 Thread Peter

Cannot Install OpenOffice v4.1.1

Used your extensive (but not detailed enough for 80 year old 
enthusiasts!!) help pages.


Am using Linux
Am using kubuntu 14.04  (now LTS version)  - Desktop version
Terminal:
bumpy@bumpyputer:~$ whereis soffice
soffice: /usr/bin/soffice /usr/bin/X11/soffice  
-remove the symlink. How??

Do not have another older version of Open Office
– NO  -using Libre Office
 Java   – The current version is installed  
* Linux Kernel version 2.6.18 or higher YES – latest 64-bit
* glibc2 version 2.5 or higher  -NO won't install
* gtk version 2.10.4 or higher  -NO won't install
* Pentium III or later processor-AMD ATHLON  X4 645 Processor
* 256 MB RAM (512 MB RAM recommended)   - 8 Gig
* Up to 1.55 GB available hard disk space  -100 G
* X Server with 1024x768 resolution (higher resolution recommended), 
with at least 256 colors

- 1920x1080
* Window Manager- Linux version
* Gnome 2.16 or higher, with the gail 1.8.6 and the at-spi 1.7 packages, 
required for support of assistive technology tools (AT tools).

- Using kubuntu (desktop)
- at-spi 1.7 packages
- NO - selected libatk (2.10.2-2ubuntu1) … instead
-My adaptor:amd64   
Graphics: Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 4.4.0 NVIDIA 331.38

So far am not impressed with OpenOffice.
Where could I get DETAILED instructions for an 80 year old guy?

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Re: Cannot Install OpenOffice v 4.1.1 on Linux

2014-10-19 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Make sure soffice exist and is not a broken link in /usr/bin/soffice

If you install OpenOffice from our website, it will reside on
/opt/OpenOffice/program/soffice

Otherwise, please check the pacakge information, googling here is the
openoffice package for Kubuntu:
https://launchpad.net/~apacheopenoffice

However is terribly outdate (3.4) currently we are on 4.1.1

My best recomendation is to download from our website.

On 10/19/14, Peter bumpy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Cannot Install OpenOffice v4.1.1
 
 Used your extensive (but not detailed enough for 80 year old
 enthusiasts!!) help pages.

 Am using Linux
 Am using kubuntu 14.04  (now LTS version)  - Desktop version
 Terminal:
 bumpy@bumpyputer:~$ whereis soffice
 soffice: /usr/bin/soffice /usr/bin/X11/soffice
 -remove the symlink.   How??

 Do not have another older version of Open Office
 – NO  -using Libre Office
   Java– The current version is installed  
 * Linux Kernel version 2.6.18 or higher   YES – latest 64-bit
 * glibc2 version 2.5 or higher-NO won't install
 * gtk version 2.10.4 or higher-NO won't install
 * Pentium III or later processor  -AMD ATHLON  X4 645 Processor
 * 256 MB RAM (512 MB RAM recommended) - 8 Gig
 * Up to 1.55 GB available hard disk space  -100 G
 * X Server with 1024x768 resolution (higher resolution recommended),
 with at least 256 colors
   - 1920x1080
 * Window Manager  - Linux version
 * Gnome 2.16 or higher, with the gail 1.8.6 and the at-spi 1.7 packages,
 required for support of assistive technology tools (AT tools).
   - Using kubuntu (desktop)
 - at-spi 1.7 packages
 - NO - selected libatk (2.10.2-2ubuntu1) … instead
 -My adaptor:amd64 
 Graphics: Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 4.4.0 NVIDIA 331.38

 So far am not impressed with OpenOffice.
 Where could I get DETAILED instructions for an 80 year old guy?

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Re: Is there a way for a Basic macro to detect what application is running it?

2014-10-19 Thread Alexandro Colorado
There sure be an environmental variable somewhere related with the
application build version that will have the libreoffice / openoffice
delimiter.
One way is to consult the Setup.xcu of the product. Here is a forum post
with a python script that looks there, however this is for PyUNO des. a
Basic should in theory be simpler.
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44t=19202

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Here's my problem:

 I have both Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice installed and I use them
 both. I have quite a few Calc files with Basic macros. Today I found my
 first difference between the Basic API in LibreOffice vs. Apache
 OpenOffice:

 Dim Dlg As Object, Ctl As Object
 DialogLibraries.LoadLibrary(Standard)
 Dlg=CreateUnoDialog(DialogLibraries.Standard.ElDialog)
 Ctl=Dlg.getControl(DateField)

 Now, I want to use Ctl.setDate(myDate) and myDate=Ctl.getDate(), and here's
 the difference:
 In Apache OpenOffice, myDate is a Long. Today's date, 2014-10-19, is
 represented as 20141019. I made two functions to convert to and from the
 format I needed.

 When running my macro in LibreOffice, the macro was interrupted by an error
 message, of course. After some debugging I found that the LibreOffice
 version of Ctl.setDate/Ctl.getDate works with a struct:
 Type DateType
 Year As Long
 Month As Long
 Day As Long
 End Type


 This is of course not a big deal, I can make the macro accept both formats,
 but the macro need to know if LibreOffice or Apache OpenOffice is running
 it. How can I do that? I have tried to find the answer myself, both using
 xray and searching the web, but so far nothing.


 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ




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