Re: Incomplete/Incorrect Template Name is Shown via Use of Splash Screen

2018-05-30 Thread Maurice Howe
To Toki and others --
Most computer applications abhor blanks in filenames.  Instead,
UseCapOr-Dashes-Or_Underscores_Or%Special$Characters.

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:12 PM, toki  wrote:

> On 05/28/2018 02:50 PM, Vince wrote:
> > No, I did not use File | Save As.  Perhaps I have misspoken, made a typo
> > or experienced an unwarranted PC auto fill.   I used File | Templates> |
> > Save ... while having the revised (blank numerical data) file opened; to
> > place the new template into AOO's template folder, (%AppData%). I chose
> > to name the newly created template: IRS Income Tax CalculationsTEMPLATE
> > (no space between Calculations and TEMPLATE).
>
>
> What name is in the ODT file?
>
> jonathon
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Re: Incomplete/Incorrect Template Name is Shown via Use of Splash Screen

2018-05-29 Thread toki
On 05/28/2018 02:50 PM, Vince wrote:
> No, I did not use File | Save As.  Perhaps I have misspoken, made a typo
> or experienced an unwarranted PC auto fill.   I used File | Templates> |
> Save ... while having the revised (blank numerical data) file opened; to
> place the new template into AOO's template folder, (%AppData%). I chose
> to name the newly created template: IRS Income Tax CalculationsTEMPLATE
> (no space between Calculations and TEMPLATE).


What name is in the ODT file?

jonathon

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Re: Incomplete/Incorrect Template Name is Shown via Use of Splash Screen

2018-05-28 Thread Brian Barker

At 10:50 28/05/2018 -0400, Vince Bonly wrote:

Thanks Brian.


No probs!

No, I did not use File | Save As. I used File | Templates> | Save 
... while having the revised (blank numerical data) file opened; to 
place the new template into AOO's template folder, (%AppData%).


Good. But again: don't worry about where OpenOffice saves these!


I am unclear as to how I managed to make AOO confused about the template name.


As am I, of course.

In any case, looking forward, I shall make an effort to think of the 
%AppData% folder as an Authorized Personnel Only area; ...


Exactly so.

... perhaps go there when I need to view template names and/or date 
of creation/modified, etc.


No: you can see all this at File | New > | Templates and Documents 
(or via the Templates... button in the Start Screen). Click on the 
required template to see its properties.


Maybe also when I have downloaded a template that then needs to be 
imported there.


Again, no! Go to File | Templates > | Organise..., select or open My 
Templates, and go to Commands > | Import Template... .


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Re: Incomplete/Incorrect Template Name is Shown via Use of Splash Screen

2018-05-28 Thread Vince@GMAIL


Thanks Brian.


On 5/27/2018 6:53 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 16:13 27/05/2018 -0400, Vince Bonly wrote:
I went through a process to convert an existing .ods to a .ots . I 
used File | Templates | Save, ...
Now, however, I believe that an incomplete/incorrect is shown via the 
Splash Screen and/or via File | Templates | Template Management.


When clicking on "Te_m_plates..." at the logo/splash screen, the 
Templates and Documents dialogue screen is displayed. I then click on 
_T_emplates and then I select My Templates to get a listing within 
the Title pane area. Within the listing is shown: IRS Income Tax 
Template; that is an incorrect template name/filename. I think it 
should be listed as: IRS Income Tax CalculationsTEMPLATE (no space 
between Calculations and TEMPLATE).


The complete Windows filename is: IRS Income Tax 
CalculationsTEMPLATE.ots, which is what I Saved As into my 
/AppData/Roaming/OpenOffice/4/user/template/ folder after removing 
numerical data from a spreadsheet named: IRS Income Tax.ods.


I get the same incorrect template name when using File | Templates | 
Template Management in the Templates pane, whereas I get the correct 
filename shown within the Documents pane.


What am I not doing correctly? I have shut down AOO and restarted AOO 
with the same problem. I have rebooted my PC and opened AOO, also 
with the same problem.


I think you are perhaps contradicting yourself here. You say you saved 
the template in My Templates using File | Templates > | Save... . But 
then you say that you used Save As... (presumably File | Save As...) 
to save a document file (as a template) to a specific folder - the 
"template" folder. These are two different things, and I suspect that 
confusion between the two is causing your problem.




No, I did not use File | Save As.  Perhaps I have misspoken, made a typo 
or experienced an unwarranted PC auto fill.   I used File | Templates> | 
Save ... while having the revised (blank numerical data) file opened; to 
place the new template into AOO's template folder, (%AppData%). I chose 
to name the newly created template: IRS Income Tax CalculationsTEMPLATE 
(no space between Calculations and TEMPLATE).


In general it is good practice to use the user interface provided and 
not to try to take shortcuts that you think or hope will produce the 
same effect. So I suggest that you should use File | Templates > | 
Save... and that you will see no problem that way. OpenOffice is being 
cleverer that you give it credit for here, such that you can give 
templates names which are not possible file names in the Windows file 
system. Take, for example, a template name containing a question mark: 
you can have this, but OpenOffice needs to use an alternative file 
name where it saves the template - and does. I suspect that you have 
been saving and deleting templates and files and confusing OpenOffice 
and possibly also yourself. I'm guessing that the "wrong" name you see 
is one your somehow previously ctreated.


I am unclear as to how I managed to make AOO confused about the template 
name.  In any case, looking forward, I shall make an effort to think of 
the %AppData% folder as an Authorized Personnel Only area; perhaps go 
there when I need to view template names and/or date of 
creation/modified, etc. Maybe also when I have downloaded a template 
that then needs to be imported there.



Recommendation:
Close File Explorer and don't meddle in %AppData% unless you really 
have to.
Save, organise, and delete templates using the File | Templates 
interface.
Delete any wrongly named template there and save it anew with your 
preferred name.






Re: Incomplete/Incorrect Template Name is Shown via Use of Splash Screen

2018-05-27 Thread Brian Barker

At 16:13 27/05/2018 -0400, Vince Bonly wrote:
I went through a process to convert an existing .ods to a .ots . I 
used File | Templates | Save, ...
Now, however, I believe that an incomplete/incorrect is shown via 
the Splash Screen and/or via File | Templates | Template Management.


When clicking on "Te_m_plates..." at the logo/splash screen, the 
Templates and Documents dialogue screen is displayed. I then click 
on _T_emplates and then I select My Templates to get a listing 
within the Title pane area. Within the listing is shown: IRS Income 
Tax Template; that is an incorrect template name/filename. I think 
it should be listed as: IRS Income Tax CalculationsTEMPLATE (no 
space between Calculations and TEMPLATE).


The complete Windows filename is: IRS Income Tax 
CalculationsTEMPLATE.ots, which is what I Saved As into my 
/AppData/Roaming/OpenOffice/4/user/template/ folder after removing 
numerical data from a spreadsheet named: IRS Income Tax.ods.


I get the same incorrect template name when using File | Templates | 
Template Management in the Templates pane, whereas I get the correct 
filename shown within the Documents pane.


What am I not doing correctly? I have shut down AOO and restarted 
AOO with the same problem. I have rebooted my PC and opened AOO, 
also with the same problem.


I think you are perhaps contradicting yourself here. You say you 
saved the template in My Templates using File | Templates > | Save... 
. But then you say that you used Save As... (presumably File | Save 
As...) to save a document file (as a template) to a specific folder - 
the "template" folder. These are two different things, and I suspect 
that confusion between the two is causing your problem.


In general it is good practice to use the user interface provided and 
not to try to take shortcuts that you think or hope will produce the 
same effect. So I suggest that you should use File | Templates > | 
Save... and that you will see no problem that way. OpenOffice is 
being cleverer that you give it credit for here, such that you can 
give templates names which are not possible file names in the Windows 
file system. Take, for example, a template name containing a question 
mark: you can have this, but OpenOffice needs to use an alternative 
file name where it saves the template - and does. I suspect that you 
have been saving and deleting templates and files and confusing 
OpenOffice and possibly also yourself. I'm guessing that the "wrong" 
name you see is one your somehow previously ctreated.


Recommendation:
Close File Explorer and don't meddle in %AppData% unless you really have to.
Save, organise, and delete templates using the File | Templates interface.
Delete any wrongly named template there and save it anew with your 
preferred name.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker 



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Incomplete/Incorrect Template Name is Shown via Use of Splash Screen

2018-05-27 Thread Vince@GMAIL

AOO415m1(Build:9789)  -  Rev. 1817496
2017-12-11 17:25

WIN10-64 desktop



I went through a process to convert an existing .ods to a .ots . I used 
File | Templates | Save, after removing the various inputted numerical 
data from a previous year's computation. Now, however, I believe that an 
incomplete/incorrect is shown via the Splash Screen and/or via File | 
Templates | Template Management.


When clicking on "Te_m_plates..." at the logo/splash screen, the 
Templates and Documents dialogue screen is displayed.  I then click on 
_T_emplates and then I select My Templates to get a listing within the 
Title pane area. Within the listing is shown: IRS Income Tax Template; 
that is an incorrect template name/filename.  I think it should be 
listed as: IRS Income Tax CalculationsTEMPLATE (no space between 
Calculations and TEMPLATE).


The complete Windows filename is:  IRS Income Tax 
CalculationsTEMPLATE.ots, which is what I Saved As into my 
/AppData/Roaming/OpenOffice/4/user/template/   folder after removing 
numerical data from a spreadsheet named: IRS Income Tax.ods.


I get the same incorrect template name when using File | Templates | 
Template Management in the Templates pane, whereas I get the correct 
filename shown within the Documents pane.


What am I not doing correctly? I have shut down AOO and restarted AOO 
with the same problem. I have rebooted my PC and opened AOO, also with 
the same problem.


Has anyone else had this problem?

Regards,

VinceB.