Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was Re: symbol shortcut?

2014-05-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 17/04/2014 Julian Thomas wrote:

Alt (which is the option key on a mac) doesn't bring up any of the menubar 
items.


As noted by Herbert in
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124972
this is by design: it was disabled on Mac OS X in 2007 since it seemed 
odd on a Mac. If Mac OS X users want to change it back, it can probably 
be done.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was Re: symbol shortcut?

2014-05-27 Thread Julian Thomas

On 27 May 2014, at 07:17, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 As noted by Herbert in
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124972
 this is by design: it was disabled on Mac OS X in 2007 since it seemed odd on 
 a Mac. If Mac OS X users want to change it back, it can probably be done.

I fail to see how removing functionality is an ‘enhancement’.  In any case, the 
underscores and shortcuts are familiar to those of us who use more than one 
platform, and provide a more consistent cross platform experience.

I do not have much patience with the purists who seem to think that if it’s a 
Mac, you need to point and click rather than use a keyboard shortcut!  Could 
you enable the shortcuts and allow an option for the underscores to be visible 
or not?

jt
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was Re: symbol shortcut?

2014-05-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 18/04/2014 Julian Thomas wrote:

On 17 Apr 2014, at 03:44, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Mnemonics (and their existence) are language-dependent. Are you using 
OpenOffice in English

yes - US english.  jt


Is this still an issue with the new OpenOffice 4.1 on Mac? In Writer, do 
you see underlined letters in the main menu, like the F in File and 
the E in Edit? And aren't you able to use (the Mac equivalent of) 
Alt+F, Alt+E... to open the menus?


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was Re: symbol shortcut?

2014-04-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Julian Thomas wrote:


On 16 Apr 2014, at 19:51, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote:


I can't speak for the Mac, but Alt+I, U, F gets there for me.  Does this not 
work (perhaps using Option) on a Mac?  If you press Option, don't the relevant 
letters appear underlined in the menus?


NO - and that's the issue - it did work that way in OS2 (and probably win 
doze).  Alt (which is the option key on a mac) doesn't bring up any of the 
menubar items.


Mnemonics (and their existence) are language-dependent. Are you using 
OpenOffice in English or in other languages?


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  Andrea.

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts (was Re: symbol shortcut?

2014-04-17 Thread Julian Thomas

On 17 Apr 2014, at 03:44, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 Mnemonics (and their existence) are language-dependent. Are you using 
 OpenOffice in English

yes - US english.  jt


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