Re: basic reference for openoffice 4.1.1 use?

2015-07-07 Thread Julian Thomas

 On Jul 4, 2015, at 17:52, Julian Thomas j...@jt-mj.net wrote:
in regard to changing the hyperlink color in a template
 
 
 On Jul 4, 2015, at 12:59, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Maybe on [Windows], but not in OS X OO.
 
 Tools has no Options entry.
 
 As always, Mac OS is different: its equivalent of Tools | Options is 
 OpenOffice | Preferences.
 
 If I edit the template and change it there, will the change be global or 
 limited to the template?

Just tested this.  The bad news is that it is global.  Is this an OO MacOS 
deficiency, or is it global on windoze also?

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Re: basic reference for openoffice 4.1.1 use?

2015-07-04 Thread Brian Barker

At 12:36 04/07/2015 -0400, Julian Thomas wrote:

On Jun 30, 2015, at 10:35, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
... as far as I remember there is under Tools -- Options -- OpenOffice ...


Maybe on [Windows], but not in OS X OO.

Tools has no Options entry.


As always, Mac OS is different: its equivalent of Tools | Options is 
OpenOffice | Preferences.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: basic reference for openoffice 4.1.1 use?

2015-07-04 Thread Julian Thomas

 On Jul 4, 2015, at 12:59, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Maybe on [Windows], but not in OS X OO.
 
 Tools has no Options entry.
 
 As always, Mac OS is different: its equivalent of Tools | Options is 
 OpenOffice | Preferences.

If I edit the template and change it there, will the change be global or 
limited to the template?

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Re: basic reference for openoffice 4.1.1 use??

2015-06-29 Thread Julian Thomas

 On Jun 28, 2015, at 01:19, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
 
 
 Any Style, even built in styles, can usually be Modified.  Do this by /Format 
 /Styles and Formatting.  Across the top of that window will be five icons 
 which select (from left) different style families. Leftmost is Paragraph 
 styles, next Character Styles, Frame Styles, Page Styles and List Styles. 

True for writer. In impress, there are only 2 icons - graphics and presentation 
styles.

I see internet link as an option in Writer under character styles, but that 
doesn't help for impress.

Is this something that's missing from impress styles?
  

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you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -IBM 
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Re: basic reference for openoffice 4.1.1 use??

2015-06-29 Thread Julian Thomas

 On Jun 28, 2015, at 01:19, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
 
 
 Any Style, even built in styles, can usually be Modified.  Do this by /Format 
 /Styles and Formatting.  Across the top of that window will be five icons 
 which select (from left) different style families. Leftmost is Paragraph 
 styles, next Character Styles, Frame Styles, Page Styles and List Styles. 

True for writer. In impress, there are only 2 icons - graphics and presentation 
styles.

I see internet link as an option in Writer under character styles, but that 
doesn't help for impress.

Is this something that's missing from impress styles?
  

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jt - j...@jt-mj.net

All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -IBM 
maintenance manual, 1925 (first seen in 1913)





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Re: basic reference for openoffice 4.1.1 use??

2015-06-27 Thread Julian Thomas

 On Feb 12, 2015, at 19:40, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 New user Guides for OpenOffice 4.x are being developed on the Documentation
 wiki --
 
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide
 
 I don't really know the status of each section.

The impress section is just the basics and half of it is not done.
 
 Andplease let us know if the online Help need help or updates in
 assisting with any questions you may have. We want to make this better and
 actually helpful to users.

Need a lot of 'how to' documentation for styles, including linking them with 
templates, copying styles, and using them effectively.  For instance, I want to 
use a style to change the font color of a hyperlink.  How do I do this?

Thanks


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Re: basic reference for openoffice 4.1.1 use??

2015-06-27 Thread toki


On 06/27/2015 09:10 PM, Julian Thomas wrote:

 For instance, I want to use a style to change the font color of a
hyperlink.  How do I do this?

Create a hyperlink character style that is incorporated into the main
paragraph style.  Then, change the color in the character style.

jonathon



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Re: basic reference for openoffice 4.1.1 use??

2015-06-27 Thread Julian Thomas

 On Jun 27, 2015, at 22:08, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Create a hyperlink character style that is incorporated into the main
 paragraph style. 

sorry to be dense about this, but I have no clue as to how to do this.

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Re: basic reference for openoffice 4.1.1 use??

2015-06-27 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 22:41:44 -0400
Julian Thomas j...@jt-mj.net wrote:

 
  On Jun 27, 2015, at 22:08, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  Create a hyperlink character style that is incorporated into the main
  paragraph style. 
 
 sorry to be dense about this, but I have no clue as to how to do this.
 
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 jt - j...@jt-mj.net
 
 If people do not believe that mathematics is simple, it is only because they 
 do not realize how complicated life is - John von Neumann 
 
 
Any Style, even built in styles, can usually be Modified.  Do this by /Format 
/Styles and Formatting.  Across the top of that window will be five icons which 
select (from left) different style families.  Leftmost is Paragraph styles, 
next Character Styles, Frame Styles, Page Styles and List Styles.  

On the bottom of the Styles and Formatting window is a dropdown to restrict the 
display of Styles - Applied is often useful, but check that All is in use until 
you get used to this.  Press the top icon for the desired Style family, right 
click on the style you wish to change, and choose Modify from the popup. Make 
whatever modifications you wish and press OK

You may find
http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/tutorial/Paragraph_Styles_And_Table_Of_Contents.html
of use
also the overall Writer guide is
http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/manuals/userguide3/0200WG3-WriterGuide.pdf
There has been little significant change in Writer between v3 (that manual) and 
v4

My own experience is that fluency in use of styles is not acquired until about 
the third reasonably substantial document (i.e., not simple short letters); 
after that, one wonders how one ever managed without use of styles.  I write 
book-length texts using styles and it emerges in full book layout, needing only 
final proofing and very minor tweaking before going to print.
Since switching to Star/OpenOffice in 2007 I have prepared many booklength 
texts directly in OO, without need to use my previous setup of MS Word (or 
NotePad) and PageMaker (later InDesign).  I have never regretted the transition 
or the learning curve involved.

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Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

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