Re: using tinyurl or is.gd
Thanks, Jeff, you answered my question thoroughly: is.gd URLs are trustworthy so long as the site to which they point is legitimate. I assume the same is true for tinyurls, but with so many being warned about them, it would seem wiser not to use tinyurl (even though I prefer all lower case to is.gd's melange). And from what the link you sent says, it seems wise to avoid .ly domains. What is gd, by the way, Greenland? Thanks again. ernie On Feb 24, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Jeffrey Deutsch wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Ernie Kurtz kurtz...@umich.edu wrote: James and Jeffrey and Andrea, thank you! I do appreciate the warnings. Now a related question: is it possible to corrupt an already tied URL? I am working toward primarily print publication: if I put a tinyurl or is.gd link in print, for the reader to key in, can it somehow be corrupted? Even if there is an electronic version of what I write, can a link given in that format be corrupted? I have been under the impression that malware lurked in URLs posted online. Is that incorrect? ernie kurtz Hello Ernie, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a URL being corrupted. I can say that at least with is.gd, once the URL is set it can't be changed (including being redirected to a malware or other bad site). So once you shorten a link to a good site, it stays that way (as long as the site itself does). Incidentally, if you're shortening a link yourself, reconsider the wisdom of doing so in bit.ly: http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/2010/10/the-ly-domain-space-to-be-considered-unsafe/ (That URL comes from is.gd.) PS: Feel free to call me Jeff - Thanks! Jeff Deutsch Speaker Life Coach A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs http://www.asplint.com Your mood can affect how you read this e-mail. Please read it with a smile. (http://tonecheck.com) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: using tinyurl or is.gd
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Ernie Kurtz kurtz...@umich.edu wrote: Thanks, Jeff, you answered my question thoroughly: is.gd URLs are trustworthy so long as the site to which they point is legitimate. I assume the same is true for tinyurls, but with so many being warned about them, it would seem wiser not to use tinyurl (even though I prefer all lower case to is.gd's melange). And from what the link you sent says, it seems wise to avoid .ly domains. What is gd, by the way, Greenland? Thanks again. ernie Hello Ernie, The British ISP Memset founded and hosts is.gd (and v.gd) as a service to the Internet, based on the British possession of Grenada. They fully expect to be able to continue for a long time, and they make clear that once a link is shortened that assignment is permanent. Dennis, good points about security concerns. I posted previously about how any viewer can preview an is.gd link. Also, you're right about how shortened links can really help in print. People have two reasons to give shortened links even online: (1) Some people's email readers and browsers break very long URLs. Technically, one can still copy and paste the full URL. In practice, some just won't bother. (2) Link shorteners -- including is.gd -- offer tracking mechanisms so one can monitor, for example, just how many views the link has had, when they took place, from what countries, using what browsers, what sites referred them and the like. Cheers, Jeff Deutsch Speaker Life Coach A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs http://www.asplint.com Your mood can affect how you read this e-mail. Please read it with a smile. (http://tonecheck.com) On Feb 24, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Jeffrey Deutsch wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Ernie Kurtz kurtz...@umich.edu wrote: James and Jeffrey and Andrea, thank you! I do appreciate the warnings. Now a related question: is it possible to corrupt an already tied URL? I am working toward primarily print publication: if I put a tinyurl or is.gd link in print, for the reader to key in, can it somehow be corrupted? Even if there is an electronic version of what I write, can a link given in that format be corrupted? I have been under the impression that malware lurked in URLs posted online. Is that incorrect? ernie kurtz Hello Ernie, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a URL being corrupted. I can say that at least with is.gd, once the URL is set it can't be changed (including being redirected to a malware or other bad site). So once you shorten a link to a good site, it stays that way (as long as the site itself does). Incidentally, if you're shortening a link yourself, reconsider the wisdom of doing so in bit.ly: http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/2010/10/the-ly-domain-space-to-be-considered-unsafe/ (That URL comes from is.gd.) PS: Feel free to call me Jeff - Thanks! Jeff Deutsch Speaker Life Coach A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs http://www.asplint.com Your mood can affect how you read this e-mail. Please read it with a smile. (http://tonecheck.com) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: using tinyurl or is.gd
The whole point about tinyurls being untrustworthy is that they hide the real url and you never know what you are actually clicking on. Many unscrupulous people take advantage of that to send malicious links to all sorts of places and so now people are hesitant to click on such a link unless he knows and trusts the person who sent it. Someone else pointed out that with is.gd it is possible to preview the site to see where you are going before actually following the link. It has nothing to do with a link getting corrupted. Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org On 2/24/2013 3:33 PM, Ernie Kurtz wrote: Thanks, Jeff, you answered my question thoroughly: is.gd URLs are trustworthy so long as the site to which they point is legitimate. I assume the same is true for tinyurls, but with so many being warned about them, it would seem wiser not to use tinyurl (even though I prefer all lower case to is.gd's melange). And from what the link you sent says, it seems wise to avoid .ly domains. What is gd, by the way, Greenland? Thanks again. ernie On Feb 24, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Jeffrey Deutsch wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Ernie Kurtzkurtz...@umich.edu wrote: James and Jeffrey and Andrea, thank you! I do appreciate the warnings. Now a related question: is it possible to corrupt an already tied URL? I am working toward primarily print publication: if I put a tinyurl or is.gd link in print, for the reader to key in, can it somehow be corrupted? Even if there is an electronic version of what I write, can a link given in that format be corrupted? I have been under the impression that malware lurked in URLs posted online. Is that incorrect? ernie kurtz Hello Ernie, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a URL being corrupted. I can say that at least with is.gd, once the URL is set it can't be changed (including being redirected to a malware or other bad site). So once you shorten a link to a good site, it stays that way (as long as the site itself does). Incidentally, if you're shortening a link yourself, reconsider the wisdom of doing so in bit.ly: http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/2010/10/the-ly-domain-space-to-be-considered-unsafe/ (That URL comes from is.gd.) PS: Feel free to call me Jeff - Thanks! Jeff Deutsch Speaker Life Coach A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs http://www.asplint.com Your mood can affect how you read this e-mail. Please read it with a smile. (http://tonecheck.com) - To unsubscribe, e-mail:users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: using tinyurl
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 3:14 PM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: Ernie Kurtz wrote: Anyway, I prefer to use tinyurl A lot of people refuse to click on a tinyurl, as it often leads to malware. There was a recent issue with Yahoo accounts being highjacked after users clicked on a tinyurl. Excellent point, especially these days: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2415706,00.asp Note that when you see a link at is.gd, you can always preview it by putting a - right at the end of the URL. Or if you want to pre-set automatically seeing (or not seeing) a preview page with any is.gd link, go to: http://is.gd/previews.php Meanwhile, is.gd comes down hard on abuse: http://is.gd/spam.php And accepts complaints (as well as thanks, questions, feedback, well wishes and the like) at: http://is.gd/contact.php (For this among other reasons, is.gd is now my favorite URL shortener. FWIW, its creators also have a sister shortening site, v.gd, which by default always takes link visitors to preview pages. In any case, the creators seem like good people to me.) Cheers, Jeff Deutsch Speaker Life Coach A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs http://www.asplint.com Your mood can affect how you read this e-mail. Please read it with a smile. (http://tonecheck.com) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: using tinyurl
At 11:12 23/02/2013 -0500, Ernie Kurtz wrote: In endnotes, when I put in a tinyurl link using my usual font, Garamond 12, the link shrinks to an 8 or 9 size. This does not happen using is.gd -- so I assume the cause may be the word tiny? I think it pretty unlikely that the text element tiny is having any effect. I don't see why the nature of the hyperlink's text should make any difference, but it may be that you have created the links in slightly different ways. Is there anyway to get OO 3.4.1 to retain the original font in tinyurl, even after clicking on it, please? Endnotes are automatically given the Endnote paragraph style, which appears to be 10 pt by default. Depending on how you create the hyperlink, its text may be automatically given the Internet Link character style. You could look at these styles - or whatever styles that have been applied - to see if they are influencing the text. You could then solve the problem by modifying the style or styles. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
