[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance
I have just had enough of this thread. I'm quitting the list until Tommy and his side-kicks get over themselves. This list is not about over-promoting petitions and having flame wars about a proposal. I'll come back maybe in a month Keith On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:09 +0200, Gianluca Turconi wrote: In data 16 settembre 2009 alle ore 11:02:24, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com ha scritto: On 2009/09/16 2:14 AM Gianluca Turconi wrote: In data 16 settembre 2009 alle ore 10:05:42, Presta Rogerator prestarogera...@yahoo.com ha scritto: Like everyone else here, I'm tired of your stupidity. You have been told over and over and over how to make your voice heard to the Rennaisance project. You're apparently too dumb to follow the advice. It's time someone spoke up and told you in less than polite terms that you're an idiot. To moderators: are you really tolerating this kind of language here? Awfully sensitive, aren't you? I do not see any swear words in that statement. I can think of several to use about Tommy Cat and his sidekick, Wild Dog Then, you've never done a moderation work or you did it without the right sensibility towards your list's users. I did moderation for several OOo mailing lists in the past and I'd never have tolerated such personal attacks and language in a public list. Evidently, people are changing for bad nowadays, eh? :( -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Petition against OOo Renaissance
Excuse the top posting, but I really think that this discussion (for want of a batter word) should have been stopped a couple of days ago. We've heard the opinions and rants, and it's just down to name calling which the vast majority of subscribers to this list just don't want to listen to any more. Keith On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 14:32 +0200, M Henri Day wrote: 2009/9/11 Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.org Tommy27 wrote: your quacks will not stop the petition, Larry. :-p Larry or some of his kind might be paid to be the turd in the Internet swimming pool, but it's no longer acceptable to stay quiet and simply added more chlorine on the condition that Larry and co float down at their end of the water. Now that they're seen for what they are, it's time to change the water after clearing the pool of 'debris'. I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I deserve it. http://www.birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/ Copying Windows or offshoots like Office goes beyond co-existence and into collaboration, in the negative sense of the word. Tommy27 wrote: I'm not the starter of the petition so i cannot edit it and add that warning. Dingo-Dog or whoever started that petition made a mistake either on purpose or by accident. Trolls like Larry and James won't stop a petition, but keeping it at a scam site will. Tommy27, make a new petition at a legitimate survey site. Even Larry's skill level can handle that. -Lars Lars, insinuating that a certain poster to this list «or some of his kind» are being paid (by whom ? Microsoft ?) to be «the turd in the Internet swimming pool», without the slightest evidence, or calling them for «[t]rolls» contributes nothing of value to the discussion. Vet hut !... Henri -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Photos in DataBase
On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 13:47 -0700, Susan Wallace-Masse wrote: This is my first time using the OO DataBase program. I have previously used Access, but not lately. I am transcribing a cemetery and I need to be able to attach one or more photos to each entry I make. How do I do this? There is a tutorial on this at: http://sheepdogguides.com/fdb/fdb1imag.htm I hope that helps you get going on this. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Add page numbers to open office /How to make a Letterhead.
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 03:52 +0200, Linda L. Hull wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 10:49 +0200, Linda L. Hull wrote: I've seen instructions for adding numbers BEFORE I write it, with Page Style. http://www.8daysaweek.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=34 This covers the odd numbers, no numbers on first page, etc. But I wrote a simple document, it got long and needs page numbers. What I need is 1. 2. 3. 4. etc. per page, in the footer, how can I get that? Right clicking in the footer and clicking on numbering and the number 1 - gives me 10 pages with '1.' Linda Hi Linda, I'm afraid I may have confused you with the page numbering thing by inadvertently referring to a Help file that wasn't quite what you wanted. To do what you originally asked, you do this: 1. Right click on any page 2. Select Page from the menu, then on the box select the tab that says Footer 3. Tick the box that says Footer on, then OK 4. Click on the footer on a page. 5. Select Insert- Fields- Page Number You should now see a page number on each page. I think in another mail you said something about your husband seeing only the words PageNumber in grey on a Ubuntu computer. I think there may be some problems with the Ubuntu implementation of Open Office. Others might be able to comment. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] How do i add numbers to to a document i wrote?
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 10:49 +0200, Linda L. Hull wrote: I've seen instructions for adding numbers BEFORE I write it, with Page Style. http://www.8daysaweek.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=34 This covers the odd numbers, no numbers on first page, etc. But I wrote a simple document, it got long and needs page numbers. What I need is 1. 2. 3. 4. etc. per page, in the footer, how can I get that? Right clicking in the footer and clicking on numbering and the number 1 - gives me 10 pages with '1.' Linda - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org From the Open Office Help files (press F1) Inserting Page Numbers in Footers 1. Choose Insert - Footer and select the page style that you want to add the footer to. 2. Choose Insert - Fields - Page Number. If you want, you can align the Page Number field as you would text. You can also add a page count to the footer, for example, in the form Page 9 of 12: 1. Click in front of the Page Number field and type Page , click after the field, enter a space and then type of . 2. Choose Insert - Fields - Page Count. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Does page wrap work in Writer 3.1?
On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 03:50 -0400, John Kaufmann wrote: Imported picture into document, tried to anchor to a paragraph, position to right, with text wrapped to left. In the context menu, this is apparently Wrap.. Optimal Page Wrap. (The Help, which knows nothing about Optimal, calls it Dynamic page wrap.) But the text does not wrap; nor does it wrap when Page Wrap is selected. Is this a known bug? John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org I've just done what you described and the text wraps fine for me. I have never experienced what you are seeing. Sorry I can't help. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] ubuntu linux version - any guidance?
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 09:51 -0400, Web Kracked wrote: I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on one of my machines. Is there any thing I should know about dealing with the Ubuntu version of OOo? I want to start setting it up with all the extensions I have on my Vista laptop, and such. This is my first step to converting all but one machine to Linux. Next will be an HP Athlon64 laptop that is running 32-bit XP/pro that will be given a 64-bit OS so I can number crunch BOINC projects faster. Also that will be my default Linux machine. This Vista one will go to Win7 when it comes out, and working properly. But now I need all the help with Ubuntu 9 and OOo on Linux as I can get. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org I'm coming in late due to time zones- most of the discussion happened while I was asleep. There is another problem with the Ubuntu version- Base does not work. From memory the problem was something fairly major, something like not allowing you to open any database. If you don't intend to use Base that wouldn't be a problem, but it was for me so I switched to normal OO. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] [users] ubuntu linux version - any guidance?
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 21:29 -0400, Drew Jensen wrote: Keith Bates wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 09:51 -0400, Web Kracked wrote: I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on one of my machines. Is there any thing I should know about dealing with the Ubuntu version of OOo? I want to start setting it up with all the extensions I have on my Vista laptop, and such. This is my first step to converting all but one machine to Linux. Next will be an HP Athlon64 laptop that is running 32-bit XP/pro that will be given a 64-bit OS so I can number crunch BOINC projects faster. Also that will be my default Linux machine. This Vista one will go to Win7 when it comes out, and working properly. But now I need all the help with Ubuntu 9 and OOo on Linux as I can get. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org I'm coming in late due to time zones- most of the discussion happened while I was asleep. There is another problem with the Ubuntu version- Base does not work. From memory the problem was something fairly major, something like not allowing you to open any database. If you don't intend to use Base that wouldn't be a problem, but it was for me so I switched to normal OO. Hello keith, et al (caveat - doing this from memory so don't slam me if I get something a little wrong, just correct the list..OK) The version of OO.o that is supplied from the Ubuntu repositories is based on the Go-OO project files. This will mean a number of core feature changes, you can find information on these changes at http://go-oo.org/discover/ Ubuntu then includes a certain sub-set of OO.o extensions in their repository - Report Builder, PDF Import, Wiki Publisher, Presenter Console - I think that's it. (They are not installed by default but are there in the package manager ready to go) Ubuntu also includes Gnome and KDE desktop integration as part of their package, slightly different then vanilla OO.o, but nothing that you could not do for yourself with the vanilla install set. They disperse the different modules on the menu system for instance - placing Draw under 'Grahpics' instead of 'Office'..go figure *smile* Then there is Base... by default Ubuntu does not 'install' Base, all the files are in the repository but you must use synaptic package manager to add it in yourself. In vanilla OO.o not installing Base causes certain features in other modules to become un-functional (is that a word) but Ubuntu changes the code so that this is not the case..IIRCC. Then there is Java... Ubuntu (or perhaps Debian..don't know for sure..don't really care, as I think this has been ironed out now) had some folks with an idealogical problem with Java from Sun..so they setup OO.o to use gjc instead. For most things in OO.o that use java (some wizards in Writer for instance) this works, but Base made use of functions that just plain broke under gcj. (this was really more of a problem pre-Jaunty 9.04) What that means for Base is simply this - before installing the Base module you must also install a Java that Base can work with - OpenJDK seems to work just fine, getting the JRE -or- JDK from Sun works also (duh!). Then you must use the Options dialog in OO.o to tell it to use the JRE -or- JDK you installed and not the support files setup from Ubuntu. Once you do that it works well, as will the Report Builder built by Ubuntu. The only other consideration really is that the Ubuntu builds tend to lag the official OO.o release by a bit. If you are new to Linux I would suggest sticking with the version supplied and getting use to working with the package updater and synaptic. It is what I have done for the folks I've moved from Windows to Ubuntu and they seem to be happy (well all but one...there is always one LOL). If you need Base just be sure to get some other java package first. Hopefully Ubuntu will switch over to OpenJDK by default in the next OS release and the problem will be resolved, IMO. Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org For me the easy fix was to just install vanilla OOo, which is also in the synaptic repositories. It's just a matter of de-selecting one bunch of packages and selecting the other. I wasn't aware of the Base vs java issues, but I think I already had a couple of flavours of that installed! -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Re: Data Base accesss
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 21:35 -0400, Jay Kenaga and Melvina Nozick wrote: - Original Message - From: Jay Kenaga and Melvina Nozick To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 9:32 PM Subject: Data Base accesss Please let me clarify the following: I am looking for a simple way to access an existing data base. It is well-defined, and consists of 1,400 field records. I wish to extract only 2-3 fields, perform some simple arithmetic, and print the result. Is there a simple language to do this, or must I use JAVA (of which I have no knowlege) ? I would appreciate it if somone would point me in the right direction. I have already down-loaded openoffice successfully. I need a simple set of instructions--I have had minimal openoffice experience. Many thanks, Jay Kenaga, j...@hargray.com Hi, OO has some excellent tools for manipulating databases. If you know SQL then this can be used, but there are also in-built methods for querying databases. You don't say what format the database is in, but OO can connect to most formats with varying degrees of ease. The basic Getting Started guide is here: http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/userguide3/index.html At that page you can download the chapter on Base, OO's database component. There is also quite useful information in the built-in help facility. I hope this is enough to get you started. You're welcome to post more specific questions on this list and we will try to help. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] hello -- can you help?
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 22:46 -0700, Carol Palmer wrote: I paid for a 3 year membership in Open Office with PayPal but can't figure out how to download it now. The dowload page just asks for the same information I just gave it and I don't want to pay twice! Any help out there? thanks You've been had I'm afraid. Open Office is free to download and use without paying anyone anything. Go to www.openoffice.org and download it from there. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Database form is Read Only
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 15:27 -0600, Bill Stephens wrote: After using the Wizard to create a form in OpenOffice.org Base, it is shown as Read Only. How can I get rid of this crazy attribute? (OOo.help has no entry under attribute.) Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org The Read Only attribute only prevents you from editing the actual form- you can use it to enter data. It's a bit confusing when you first encounter it.. If you want to edit the form itself just click on the Edit File button on the toolbar. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Dates in Base
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 21:51 +0200, Franz Wein wrote: Hi Keith This is a problem in nearly all database - systems - my solution - use a date of death for all your fishes for example the 31.12.2999 - normaly this date ist possilbe in all database. If a fish died - fill in the day of death! Franz Thanks Franz. Trouble is I'm too lazy to remember to do that. I suppose I could set that up as a default in the data entry form. Anyway Drew's response of IS EMPTY in the query works. Keith Keith Bates schrieb: I have a database table where I keep details of the fish in my tank. One of the fields is the date when the fish died. I want to make a list of currently living fish by searching for records where the date of death is blank. What do I need to enter in the query to find this? I've tried, in the query view , space, NULL and 0, but none produces the correct result. The field is specified to be a date field. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Open Office on Netbook
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:42 -0700, ir8geezer wrote: Thanks for help everyone! Sorry I forgot to mention I'm running Windows XP Home Edition. Thanks again! The GEezer ir8geezer wrote: I have a lenovo S10 netbook with 1GB of RAM and 94GB of free space on my hard drive. I only need Writer, Calc, and Impress for my work. Do you think my netbook will work properly if I install these? Should I install all programs or just the three I need? Is it possible to do a custom install? Thanks for the help! The Geezer I can't comment on the Lenovo netbook but I have the original Eee 701 running Ubuntu 9.04 and Office works well for me. Having said that, I do only use it for word processing- some pretty complex documents. There seems to be no reduction in speed. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Dates in Base
I have a database table where I keep details of the fish in my tank. One of the fields is the date when the fish died. I want to make a list of currently living fish by searching for records where the date of death is blank. What do I need to enter in the query to find this? I've tried, in the query view , space, NULL and 0, but none produces the correct result. The field is specified to be a date field. Thanks -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Dates in Base
On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 06:41 -0400, Drew Jensen wrote: Keith Bates wrote: I have a database table where I keep details of the fish in my tank. One of the fields is the date when the fish died. I want to make a list of currently living fish by searching for records where the date of death is blank. What do I need to enter in the query to find this? I've tried, in the query view , space, NULL and 0, but none produces the correct result. The field is specified to be a date field. Thanks Try EMPTY Drew -- Thanks Drew, but that comes up as an invalid SQL expression I've also tried #11/1/1958# but that just returns an empty set. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Dates in Base
On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 10:08 -0400, Drew Jensen wrote: Thanks Drew, but that comes up as an invalid SQL expression I've also tried #11/1/1958# but that just returns an empty set. Sorry forgot a small bit there...my mistake... IS EMPTY - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org That did the trick! Thank you Drew. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Re: What OOo comes with Jaunty?
On Sat, 09 May 2009 18:20:32 -0700 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 05/09/2009 05:39 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sat, 09 May 2009 16:03:43 -0700 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net dijo: Interestingly enough, I can open PDF's in both OOo 3.1.0 and (U)OOo 3.1.0 (that's the one that comes with Jaunty 9.04) in 9.04. I did a dist-upgrade from Intrepid to Jaunty, and it installed 3.0.1, not 3.1.0. Worse, it installed the Novellized version so now my Save button is not grayed out right after a save. :( And all the bugs I had with PPA 3.0.1 under Intrepid remain. :( Some day I wish they would release a version with NO NEW FEATURES and ALL THE BUGS FIXED. Oh well. I can dream. :) (U)OOo 3.0.1: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openoffice.orgsearchon=namessuite=allsection=all I have (U)OOo 3.1rc2 from the PPA: $ apt-cache policy openoffice.org openoffice.org: Installed: 1:3.1.0~rc2-1ubuntu1~jaunty1 Candidate: 1:3.1.0~rc2-1ubuntu1~jaunty1 Version table: *** 1:3.1.0~rc2-1ubuntu1~jaunty1 0 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:3.0.1-9ubuntu3 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages You can, as previously, install both the PPA *and* standard OOo 3.1.0 and run them in paralell if you wish. I uninstalled the official Ubuntu 9.04 version because it has a bug that prevents it from accessing OO databases. Other distros that ship with the non-standard version have the same issue. I'm back to the standard OOo downloaded from the OOo web-site. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Re: What OOo comes with Jaunty?
On Sat, 9 May 2009 20:05:50 -0700 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 10 May 2009 11:58:29 +1000 Keith Bates ke...@new-life.org.au dijo: I uninstalled the official Ubuntu 9.04 version because it has a bug that prevents it from accessing OO databases. Other distros that ship with the non-standard version have the same issue. I'm back to the standard OOo downloaded from the OOo web-site. It's tempting to do that, but if I do Update Manager will constantly give me reminders that there are upgrades available. Surely if you remove it using Synaptic and install the debs using dpkg there won't be a problem. I've just looked at my package list and the Ubuntu packages are openoffice.org-module but the versions from OOo are openoffice.org3-module. There should not be any need for Update Manager to want me to update packages that I haven't got installed. More important, last time I did that was back in the days of Gutsy. The version that came with Gutsy had a bug that caused drag and drop of text not to work. It was an obscure bug that affected only a hundred people worldwide, as far as I could tell. I installed the OOo version, and the bug remained. And the OOo version had even more bugs that the Ubuntuized version did not. In your case there is good reason to switch. I rarely need to access databases, so I have not been bitten by that particular bug. Much is made on this list of how evil the distroized versions of OOo are. There is an assumption that if you are experiencing a bug it must be the fault of insert distro name here, because surely if you used the official OOo version you would have no problems. But I'm here to tell you that my experience is quite different. Sometimes the distroized version does introduce bugs that are not in the OOo version. But the opposite is equally true. And more important, unlike you, I have yet to find that the OOo version fixes any bugs in the distroized version. I was going to stick with the distroized version but the bug was important to me... I see pluses and minuses either way. The distro versions often contain extra features but there is always the possibility that the extra features or other tweaking has introduced extra problems that aren't picked up due to the smaller testing base. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] published e-mail
On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 13:54 +0100, Sebastian Schlaud wrote: googleing my name, the first six hits depend on a more than two years old e-mail to you! I´m not happy to see my private e-mail and mail address published by open-office and google. PLEASE STOP IT! Unfortunately if you post to a public mailing list your emails are going to be archived at numerous places, including this request to not do it! The only way to avoid this completely is never send an email anywhere, and never go on the internet on your personal computer. That's technology. Alternatively, just work on the assumption that everything you post is public information. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
Re: [users] Impress Questions- Sound files
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 11:04 +, Michele Zarri wrote: [snip] I would like to embed a music file that plays while the presentation progresses... the mp3 has a song and the next few slides have the words to the song which the kids then sing. I tried to do this but for some reason I got an error message saying that the particular format, mp3, could not be attached to the presentation in the linux version. Is there any way around this? I've got the various codecs etc installed and can play mp3s, so it seems to be a decision by OOo developers to restrict the formats depending on the OS. That sort of undermines the cross-platform credentials just a tad. Hello, Indeed it is a bit tricky to have an mp3 song to play in Impress under Linux and you will need to spend some time configuring your system. All the information on how to install JMF can be found on this page of the Wiki [1]: Once you have done that you need an additional step to enable MP3s (also explained in [1]). Good grief! All of that to get an mp3- a universal format, even if it isn't open source- playing in an impress file. That is crazy! If Sun are going to insist on using their own products- which I'm sure isn't necessary when there are heaps of other media libraries available in linux that can do it- they could at least make the installation easy. It looks to me like they have gone out of their way to make it hard for linux users to use OOo with mp3s. I think I'll stick to working around the problem. Thanks for your help Michele. Keith When the machine has been configured, you are a step closer to do what you want, but not quite there yet. In order to have a song play across multiple slides you will have to instruct Impress to use the song as a transition sound. Somewhat detailed instructions can be found here [2]. Note that [2] is currently being reviewed so you may want to check in a month or so to see if it has been updated. In general, in case you find the user guide not easy to follow (or even wrong!), please let me know as I am one of the contributors to writing that chapter and user feedback is very welcome. Hope that helps. Cheers, Michele [1] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Java/Java_Media_Framework [2] http://oooauthors.org/en/authors/userguide3/impress3/published/0509IG3-SlideShowsTransitionsAnimations.pdf -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Re: Impress Questions- Sound files
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 13:16 -0800, NoOp wrote: On 02/24/2009 06:38 PM, Keith Bates wrote: I've just started using Impress for classes I teach at a local government school. I haven't used impress much and powerpoint not at all-- and I don't have a copy of pp at home to play with. I use OO under linux and the school has a smart board set-up powered by Windows XP and using MS Office. I'm producing presentations in Impress to be used in Powerpoint. I'm not sure of the version of pp used, but I would be guessing it's older than 2007. I would like to embed a music file that plays while the presentation progresses... the mp3 has a song and the next few slides have the words to the song which the kids then sing. I tried to do this but for some reason I got an error message saying that the particular format, mp3, could not be attached to the presentation in the linux version. Is there any way around this? I've got the various codecs etc installed and can play mp3s, so it seems to be a decision by OOo developers to restrict the formats depending on the OS. That sort of undermines the cross-platform credentials just a tad. If this can't be worked around, can someone tell me if ogg format is supported by Powerpoint? And a related question which relates more to powerpoint than openoffice, but since the members of this list are infinitely wise and knowledgeable :) If I attach the song file to the slide with the text of the first verse, and then go back to that slide after a chorus, for example, can it be set up so as not to restart the sound file? If not, I guess the way to do it is insert a blank slide that contains the sound file. Thanks for any answers people may be able to share on these questions. Keith, After you've installed JMF the MP3 plugin find it limited (doesn't play oog's etc), I'd recommend that you go and download either the go-oo build or the OxygenOffice builds. Both use the gstreamer patches and both play sound and video out of the box (including ogg's): http://go-oo.org/ http://go-oo.org/discover/ http://ooop.wiki.sourceforge.net/ You may already have the go-oo build with your distribution of linux. Post what distro you are using and someone can adivse. Note that go-oo and OxygenOffice are also available for Windows. Also see: http://go-oo.org/download/ for derivatives, and http://katana.oooninja.com/w/editions_of_openoffice.org [dated but useful] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Thanks NoOp I'll take a look at it, as it sounds a bit more useful than the JMF. I wouldn't be able to install any version of OO at the school- I only go there for a half-hour lesson each week and I don't think I should get into messing with their system for my convenience. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Re: Impress Questions- Sound files
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 20:08 -0800, NoOp wrote: On 02/25/2009 02:36 PM, Keith Bates wrote: On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 13:16 -0800, NoOp wrote: After you've installed JMF the MP3 plugin find it limited (doesn't play oog's etc), I'd recommend that you go and download either the go-oo build or the OxygenOffice builds. Both use the gstreamer patches and both play sound and video out of the box (including ogg's): http://go-oo.org/ http://go-oo.org/discover/ http://ooop.wiki.sourceforge.net/ You may already have the go-oo build with your distribution of linux. Post what distro you are using and someone can adivse. Note that go-oo and OxygenOffice are also available for Windows. Also see: http://go-oo.org/download/ for derivatives, and http://katana.oooninja.com/w/editions_of_openoffice.org [dated but useful] Thanks NoOp I'll take a look at it, as it sounds a bit more useful than the JMF. I wouldn't be able to install any version of OO at the school- I only go there for a half-hour lesson each week and I don't think I should get into messing with their system for my convenience. I'm not suggesting that you install on the school's computers (although it would be a very good idea to do so), I'm suggesting that you do this on your computer. That way you'll be able to reasonably work with sound and video in OOo from your system without the mess/limitations of Sun's very rudimentary JMF. Again, if you advise what linux version you are using, then perhaps you may already have an OOo distro version with gstreamer support already installed. I have Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) which came with OOo 2.4 I also have basic or normal: OO 3.0.1 installed from the OO site. I had locked the version of OO in Synaptic so it didn't overwrite the 3.0 that was installed. Now I've tried to install the version from Ubuntu which the go-oo site says is the right one, but it hasn't updated the gnome menu and I can't find a symbolic link to start it manually. Do you know what the command is? openoffice, oooffice and soofice don't work -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Re: Impress Questions- Sound files
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 20:37 -0800, NoOp wrote: On 02/25/2009 08:16 PM, Keith Bates wrote: On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 20:08 -0800, NoOp wrote: I'm not suggesting that you install on the school's computers (although it would be a very good idea to do so), I'm suggesting that you do this on your computer. That way you'll be able to reasonably work with sound and video in OOo from your system without the mess/limitations of Sun's very rudimentary JMF. Again, if you advise what linux version you are using, then perhaps you may already have an OOo distro version with gstreamer support already installed. I have Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) which came with OOo 2.4 Did you have issues with (U)OOo 2.4.1? That included sound and video via gstreamer out of the box and is actually a go-oo build. It never occurred to me to use 2.4.1 :( I also have basic or normal: OO 3.0.1 installed from the OO site. I had locked the version of OO in Synaptic so it didn't overwrite the 3.0 that was installed. What I meant was that in previous distros I've used the inks to the programs get messed up. I was using debian for some years and it took for ever for them to update the version of OO, so I would install the up to date version. Then when debian updated their version the symlinks they would over-write the version that I had installed and the symlinks wouldn't work any more because from memory the OO builds used soffice etc while the debian used oooffice. ?? The standard OOo 3.0.1 installs into the /opt directory. You can safely leave it there and there is no need to 'lock' it via Synaptic. What I've done now is remove the openoffice.org packages and installed the openoffice.org3 packages. But all I have working is the version of OO3 in /opt which is the community version not the go-oo version. So, is the openoffice.org3 package the same as the standard OO 3.0.1? How would I go about installing the developer version of go-oo 3.0.1? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Impress Questions- Sound files
I've just started using Impress for classes I teach at a local government school. I haven't used impress much and powerpoint not at all-- and I don't have a copy of pp at home to play with. I use OO under linux and the school has a smart board set-up powered by Windows XP and using MS Office. I'm producing presentations in Impress to be used in Powerpoint. I'm not sure of the version of pp used, but I would be guessing it's older than 2007. I would like to embed a music file that plays while the presentation progresses... the mp3 has a song and the next few slides have the words to the song which the kids then sing. I tried to do this but for some reason I got an error message saying that the particular format, mp3, could not be attached to the presentation in the linux version. Is there any way around this? I've got the various codecs etc installed and can play mp3s, so it seems to be a decision by OOo developers to restrict the formats depending on the OS. That sort of undermines the cross-platform credentials just a tad. If this can't be worked around, can someone tell me if ogg format is supported by Powerpoint? And a related question which relates more to powerpoint than openoffice, but since the members of this list are infinitely wise and knowledgeable :) If I attach the song file to the slide with the text of the first verse, and then go back to that slide after a chorus, for example, can it be set up so as not to restart the sound file? If not, I guess the way to do it is insert a blank slide that contains the sound file. Thanks for any answers people may be able to share on these questions. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Re: Getting into styles: I want to see the code!
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:13:24 +0200 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2006/03/templates_makin.html http://tutorialsforopenoffice.org/tutorial/Create_A_Template.html http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1012022/open_office_thesis_template_tutorial/ Thanks. I've really got to get back to my studies, but I will go through those pages thoroughly when I get the chance. Actually, I think that I may have read the first two in the past as the URLs look familiar. Maybe I just need a refresher. From memory, there was an extension that did something like reveal codes. Maybe search the extension repository? -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Extensions.?
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 09:50 +0900, James Elliott - WA Rural Computers wrote: I have been using OOo since the beginning, currently runing under Windows XP, and have noticed that in version 3.0 that we now use extensions for our dictionaries instead of standalone Dict files as before. Extensions seem to be an improvement in that one does not have to copy, in my case the Australian English dictionary, across every time one installs a new version of OOo. When I upgraded from 3.0 to 3.1 just now, and tested my spell checker in Writer, it still picked up color as a misspelled word and suggested colour. So, that is great, and makes updating OOo a breeze. For my education, I would be very much obliged if someone in this forum could explain to me what and extension is, how it works, and any advantages, other than those already described above. Many thanks, James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org From the OOo extensions site: An extension is a third party tool that brings OOo new functions. This can be done through addons, addins, deployed by UNO packages. Extensions also covers templates, galleries. The advantage is that you can choose what additional functions you want without having the ones you don't want. Go here to browse some of them: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ A couple of favourites apart from the dictionaries (I use the Aussie one too), are the PDF editor and the Report Builder for Base. There are all kinds of offerings there for the different parts of OOo -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Calculated Fields and Summary Fields in Report Builder
I've been playing with the Report Builder extension and I am very impressed with it. One thing I can't see is how to insert summary fields in the footer section. What I am doing is using a query to produce the main body of the report- weather observations for the previous month. At the end I would like to insert Average Max and Min for the month and total rainfall for the month. Can anyone tell me how to do this or point me to a guide? The on-line help is big on installation but lacking in details of actual use. Thanks. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Calculated Fields and Summary Fields in Report Builder
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:25:12 +1100 Keith Bates ke...@new-life.org.au wrote: I've been playing with the Report Builder extension and I am very impressed with it. One thing I can't see is how to insert summary fields in the footer section. What I am doing is using a query to produce the main body of the report- weather observations for the previous month. At the end I would like to insert Average Max and Min for the month and total rainfall for the month. Can anyone tell me how to do this or point me to a guide? The on-line help is big on installation but lacking in details of actual use. Thanks. I worked it out myself! For anyone else trying to work it out, Add the field you want to insert in the footer then in the data tab select Function for the data field. It doesn't seem to have Average as an option here. If anyone knows how to do it I would like to hear from you. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] PDF Export Problem
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:19:51 -0500 Pu Taang Zomi putaangz...@gmail.com wrote: This is a problem I encountered today. 1. I wrote a document in OpenOffice.org Writer 3.0.1. I saved it as Man.odt. When I tried export as PDF, I got the following: I clicked OK, and when I looked at the document on my hard disk, it was not in PDF, but in ODT. == 2. I launched a new document and wrote the same in ODT again, but I did not save it. It was titled Untitled 1. I tried to export as PDF, and saved as Man.pdf. I found out that the document was in PDF, not in ODT. == There must be something I did wrong. How can I export a saved ODT document as PDF again? I just tried it on my system - OOo 3.0.1 Unbuntu Linux- and export to PDF works fine. In the second case, did it save as a pdf or did it really save as an odt file with .pdf on the end instead of odt? Did you use the Export to PDF button on the toolbar or did you go to File- Export as PDF or even File- Export then select PDF format. So many options to do the one thing! It's possible that trying different methods would yield different results. For example using the toolbar button just asks for a filename and location, but going File-Export to PDF lets you sepcify a whole lot of other options... I usually just click on the button so I was surprised to find the other method takes a different result -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Re: Starting Writer specifically
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:28:42 +0200 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/22 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net: That is because the PPA overwrites your existing Ubuntu OOo and installs in it's place, so you need to look for ooffice: ~$ locate ooffice will show you that ooffice is located at /usr/bin/ooffice and if you look at the file you'll find that it is a shell that points to /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice So, you wish to open Writer specifically you can do two things: 1. From your Office menu click on the Writer icon which uses: ooffice -writer %U 2. From a terminal: ~$ ooffice -writer or /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice -writer Thanks, Gary. The oofice -writer command also shows the splash screen briefly, then disappears and nothing else. I must ^C to get my terminal back, as it keeps running. I removed OOo 2.4 before installing 3.0. Would it be advisable to install 2.4 and _then_ install 3.0? I use this: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter It runs fine. Ubuntu 8.10 I have an icon on my panel which points to this address. soffice -writer file-name also works for me when opening a particular file. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Jigsaw Puzzle Templates
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:30:43 -0600 Wade Smart w...@wadesmart.com wrote: Keith Bates wrote: Hi, I would like to create some simple (approx. 50 pieces) jigsaw puzzles, by printing a photo overlaid with a template to provide lines to cut out the pieces. I've done a search but haven't found what I'm looking for. I've found a 10 piece puzzle from DTK, and some powerpoint tmeplates with pictures of generic jigsaw pieces. Is anyone aware of such a template or a graphic that I can merge with the main picture? I eventually went with the DTK graphic... I was hoping to overlay it on the map of Australia that I was using as the picture, but I couldn't work out transparency in Draw (or GIMP for that matter) so I printed the puzzle outline on the back of each sheet. I discovered the nice feature of OO in being able to print the one graphic over multiple pages in Draw. I was going to settle for A3 but my wife said make it bigger. So I set the paper size to A1 and the printer paper size to A3 and Draw just nicely printed it over 4 A3 pages. Nice! When we put it all together we found the original map left out Tasmania (the little island off the bottom of Australia- probably just offended both the Tasmanians on the list :) ) So I had to find another map just of Tasmania and print it to scale. The purpose of all of this? In church on Sunday evening we are celebrating Australia Day which falls on Monday. I'm going to give each person a piece of the puzzle. During the service I will ask them to write a brief prayer for the nation or the part of it that's on their piece and then we will put them together to make the map. Thanks to Wade and others that made suggestions. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Jigsaw Puzzle Templates
Hi, I would like to create some simple (approx. 50 pieces) jigsaw puzzles, by printing a photo overlaid with a template to provide lines to cut out the pieces. I've done a search but haven't found what I'm looking for. I've found a 10 piece puzzle from DTK, and some powerpoint tmeplates with pictures of generic jigsaw pieces. Is anyone aware of such a template or a graphic that I can merge with the main picture? -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] File Picker: How to show hidden directories/files?
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 09:58:38 +0200 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/1 Keith Bates ke...@new-life.org.au: In my standard linux version of OOo the option is there so it looks like the Ubuntu people have removed it from the version they distribute, probably to ensure that it has better integration with the desktop. Actually, I am using Open Office 3 form the OOo website. I suppose that you are using the go-oo builds, which is what Ubuntu ships with. I will take a look at those. Oh Ok. That's the version I'm using. What I do on the (rare) occasions I want to save to a hidden directory is to enter the name of the directory in the file name box then press enter. In this version one cannot enter the directory name! In the file name section, start entering the directory name (e.g. .hidden-files) then it will complete it for you. Hit enter and it will switch to the directory (that's assuming it's present in the current directory). Just be careful to change the name that is in the file name otherwise it will store it in the same name as the directory you typed in. Hope that's clear... it seems a bit complicated the way I wrote it. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] File Picker: How to show hidden directories/files?
On Wed, 2008-12-31 at 19:50 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/12/31 Harold Fuchs hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com: In OOo on Windows, at ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgGeneral there's a check box under the heading Open/Save dialogs. It is labelled Use OpenOffice.org dialogs. If this option exists in your Kubuntu version of OOo then I think unchecking it will cause OOo to use the system dialogs which ... Thanks, Harold. If that is the dialog with Help, Document status, and Year, then in Kubuntu there is no Open/Save Dialogs heading. In my standard linux version of OOo the option is there so it looks like the Ubuntu people have removed it from the version they distribute, probably to ensure that it has better integration with the desktop. What I do on the (rare) occasions I want to save to a hidden directory is to enter the name of the directory in the file name box then press enter. Of course if you don't know the name of the directory that's a pain. I tried Ctl-H but that just opens the Help window. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] How to scale down and save an image?
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 14:17 -0800, David Karr wrote: I have a jpeg of a photo that is a little too large. I loaded it in Impress and resized it smaller, keeping the ratio the same. I then saved the resulting image to a new file. When I view the old and new images, they are identical. The smaller image is not smaller. Am I missing something? Impress is not an image manipulation program. When you change the size of the image in Impress you don't actually change the content of the file asll you are doing is changing the way the image appears on the page. I just had a look at Draw and it doesn't seem to have any facility for changing the size of image files either... but I don't use either Impress or Draw that often so I could be wrong on both of these. I don't know what OS you are using, but in more recent file managers there is often a feature to rescale images. Use your file manager to find the jpeg then right click on it and see if it has an option such as Rescale image Otherwise use photo software such as GIMP, Photo Shop or the software that came with your camera. Hope that helps. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] [users] How to scale down and save an image?
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 18:41 -0500, Web Kracked wrote: Keith Bates wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 14:17 -0800, David Karr wrote: I have a jpeg of a photo that is a little too large. I loaded it in Impress and resized it smaller, keeping the ratio the same. I then saved the resulting image to a new file. When I view the old and new images, they are identical. The smaller image is not smaller. Am I missing something? Impress is not an image manipulation program. When you change the size of the image in Impress you don't actually change the content of the file asll you are doing is changing the way the image appears on the page. I just had a look at Draw and it doesn't seem to have any facility for changing the size of image files either... but I don't use either Impress or Draw that often so I could be wrong on both of these. I don't know what OS you are using, but in more recent file managers there is often a feature to rescale images. Use your file manager to find the jpeg then right click on it and see if it has an option such as Rescale image Otherwise use photo software such as GIMP, Photo Shop or the software that came with your camera. Hope that helps Yes you need to use the right software to do the job. I would not tell a person to use GIMP. GIMP has a learning Curve. A guy took GIMP and made it easier to use. He them called it GIMPshop. It bascally GIMP but has a better GUI so it is easier to use. It used all of the GIMP filters and add-ons. The latest versions of GIMP have a different UI which make it a little more intuitive for people to use. I don't do a lot of editing of photos- apart from cropping, re-scaling etc, and occasionally altering the brightness and contrast. Keith I have Photoshop, for some of my work, and I only use it when I have to. I do not know about you, but many people seems to not install the software that comes with their camera. The just do not use the computer to edit their photos. They just take the photos and take the Memory Card to the photo printing place. I do not use the camera software, since it does not work well at all. Here are the links to some of the better free image editors. GIMPshop http://www.gimpshop.com/ Paint.NET http://www.getpaint.net/ Photoscape http://www.photoscape.org/ps/main/index.php Artweaver http://www.artweaver.de/index.php?en_version Tim L. Took over 4,700 digital photo since Sept 2005 and my camera software does not work on XP at all, and on Vista very badly. How many ( SD ) memory cards do you have for your camera(s)? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
Re: [users] OT Free software ( was : Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] [users] How to scale down and save an image?)
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 19:28 -0500, Drew Jensen wrote: On 12/22/2008 6:55 PM, Keith Bates wrote: GIMPshop http://www.gimpshop.com/ Paint.NET http://www.getpaint.net/ Well, I had to check out the Paint.NET application and although I can't comment on the actual program yet (but I can tell I'll be losing a few ours playing with this cause it seems pretty nice) I did find one thing quite interesting and know some here will also. While installing the bottom of the splash screen read (or words to this effect): Paint.NET is a free program - if you paid any money for it, other then to donate to the project at getpaint.net then I recommend you go back and request a refund. *grin* Now what do you suppose prompted such a statement? Drew Maybe they should put that on the splash screen on OOo :) -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Unwanted hyphenation
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 07:47 +, thomas steel wrote: Thanks to Richard Harold others for great patience. I've now done everything you've advised my fingers are crossed that all is now well. One last question. A result of installing OO3 is that I've had 2 e-mails inviting me to install 'OpenOffice2009'. Isn't that included in 3? Should I just ignore the e-mails? TS Apparently it's a scam. From ooforums.org: Yesterday, I received an email offering Open Office Suite 2009; I followed the link and found that this program, unlike other OO programs, was available at a charge of about $20.00 US. I paid for the program but have since then not been able to download it; when I try to access the sites given, the page cannot be loaded. What is happening/ What's happening is you've been had... There've been a few warnings about the Open Office 2009 scam on some security and general user forums. From the warnings I've seen it looks like a combination of financial fraud and e-mail harvesting (you were asked for your email address, right?). I haven't seen the actual offer, though, so I can't say for sure. http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=75906 -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] not sure where to put this...
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:30:20 + Harold Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) a feature that WordPerfect had was Make It Fit. This was wonderful for making a document fit a little (or as many) pages as you wanted (within reason!) With FilePage Preview you can *view* as many pages as you like on the screen, within reason :-) by selecting the Multi Pages option and picking a layout. You can't *edit* in this mode though. Again, perhaps this not what you meant in which case please explain. What the OP was asking for was a feature where the program edits the document to fit an exact number of pages. In WP for example, you might have a document that is 2 1/2 pages long and you might think that extra page is a waste of paper (or you might think it would look better to fit exactly 3 pages). You could click the Make it fit button and it would ask how long do you want it to be then it would automagically adjust font size and spacing to make it fit exactly the number of pages you request. I used to think it was pretty nifty also. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Change paper format
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:18:32 +0700 ACCO - Head Office [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sir/ Madam, I just install OpenOffice and start using. I have a problem with OpenOffice Writer as below: Default Paper format is Letter. How ever, I want to working with A4 format as default. I have try to set (modify Default style, creat new style...), but if I close the OpenOffice and restart, it always loads Letter format default !!! How to do it? Please help me! Thank you very much. Tran Trung Tuan (Mr. Tuan) You need to modify the Default Template. File- Templates- Edit Select the template Default It will open as a blank document. Change the paper size, select a different font, set default margins- everything you .like to be the usual settings in your document. When you are finished, choose Save then close the template From now on all of those settings should be what appears in every new document. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Place text inside frame
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:57:41 -0700 John Jason Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is so stupid. I have created a frame. I see a paragraph mark inside the frame (hidden characters is turned on). But for the life of me I cannot get the cursor inside the frame so I can type some text into it. I can't find the answer in the Help file. What is the secret? First you have to de-select the frame by clicking outside it. Then you can click inside the frame to insert text. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Re: New extension.
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:00:25 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/2008 01:25 PM, Fred A. Miller wrote: James Knott wrote: Fred A. Miller wrote: Ok...I have 3.0 installed and the new extension to import a PDF. However, in Draw and Impression it won't work. What am I missing? 'Using openSUSE Linux 11.0 Thanks, Fred You should be able to click on File Open and select the PDF file. It should then open in Draw. Nodoesn't work. :( Get the same garbage I'd get in OO 2.4. Fred http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=94784 [Sun PDF Import Extension [Beta] 0.3.1-LinuxIntel does not open PDF in OOo 3.0_m9(RC4)] It doesn't work in linux in OOo 3.0. It does work in StarOffice 9 (OOo 3.0 equivalent), so please be sure to add a comment that it doesn't work with openSUSE either. Note that the bug has been opened for 10 days, *and* a comment also left on http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport but Sun has yet to acknowledge the OOo problem or assigned it to anyone. I reckon as long as it's working on StarOffice 9, then OOo 3.0 is a low priority. I've just downloaded the extension and it works (sort of) for me, using Ubuntu 8.04. It opened the entire Evolution manual (slowly) as expected and as far as I could see allowed me to edit line by line. OTOH I opened an invoice that may have been produced by MSO and while it opened fine, the embedded text was garbled. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Re: New extension.
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:06:06 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/2008 02:19 PM, Keith Bates wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:00:25 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/2008 01:25 PM, Fred A. Miller wrote: James Knott wrote: Fred A. Miller wrote: Ok...I have 3.0 installed and the new extension to import a PDF. However, in Draw and Impression it won't work. What am I missing? 'Using openSUSE Linux 11.0 Thanks, Fred You should be able to click on File Open and select the PDF file. It should then open in Draw. Nodoesn't work. :( Get the same garbage I'd get in OO 2.4. Fred http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=94784 [Sun PDF Import Extension [Beta] 0.3.1-LinuxIntel does not open PDF in OOo 3.0_m9(RC4)] It doesn't work in linux in OOo 3.0. It does work in StarOffice 9 (OOo 3.0 equivalent), so please be sure to add a comment that it doesn't work with openSUSE either. Note that the bug has been opened for 10 days, *and* a comment also left on http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport but Sun has yet to acknowledge the OOo problem or assigned it to anyone. I reckon as long as it's working on StarOffice 9, then OOo 3.0 is a low priority. I've just downloaded the extension and it works (sort of) for me, using Ubuntu 8.04. It opened the entire Evolution manual (slowly) as expected and as far as I could see allowed me to edit line by line. OTOH I opened an invoice that may have been produced by MSO and while it opened fine, the embedded text was garbled. Interesting... I am also using Ubuntu 8.04.1, and on 4 systems the extension does not work for me. Can you please confirm that you: 1) are using OOo 3.0, 2) using the PDF 0.3.1 extension from: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/972 Yes. OOo 3.0 (I thought you had written 3.0.2- that was a quick update!) 0.3-1 LinuxIntel extension @ http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/972 -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Templates for Form Filling
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:20:29 +0100 Brian Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:13 10/10/2008 +1100, Keith Bates wrote: I took up Brian's suggestion of putting sections inside frames and linking the sections as the means of copying information from one frame to another. My first impressions are that this seems to do what I want. To give credit where it's due, I learned that technique - from Joe Smith in message 187827 - on this list only days ago! Brian Barker Thanks to Joe also for sharing his knowledge :) -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Templates for Form Filling
On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:24:51 -0500 Barbara Duprey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: On 09/10/2008 07:16, Brian Barker wrote: At 12:46 09/10/2008 +1100, Keith Bates wrote: When I perform marriages I need to fill in about three or four forms [...] At the moment, most of them are filled in by hand because it's easier than making the effort to organise templates etc. to print the information into the right spot on the form. What I'm thinking is make a document (spreadsheet?) to enter the information then have OO put that into the right places so I can print onto the forms. Just to clarify, there are several forms which have to be filled in with pretty much the same information in different combinations, layouts and paper sizes. I took up Brian's suggestion of putting sections inside frames and linking the sections as the means of copying information from one frame to another. My first impressions are that this seems to do what I want. I started working on this last night, and although it's tedious to set up,I think it will save the time of laboriously copying information by hand into each form, with the attendant risk of making errors along the way. When finished, I will have a template which will consists of a couple of pages for data entry and then a page for each of the forms plus a page which can be customised for the information which the marriage celebrant needs such as location, special requests, contact phone numbers etc. After I've completed it and tested it, I will publish it for other Australian marriage celebrants to use. Thanks to Brian, Harold, Barbara and others who offered suggestions to point me in the right direction. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Re: Templates for Form Filling
On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:27:47 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/09/2008 03:13 PM, Keith Bates wrote: After I've completed it and tested it, I will publish it for other Australian marriage celebrants to use. Thanks to Brian, Harold, Barbara and others who offered suggestions to point me in the right direction. Does Australia have standard 'electronic' forms of this type already for Word etc? If so you might import and modify those. Certainly there must already exist similar templates, as I wouldn't think that all Australian marriage forms are still handwritten. (BTW: I lived in Australia in the 80's - Gordon, NSW and even then many civic forms were computerised). It is possible to download a Word template for one of the forms, the certificate that is handed to the couple. I think there is also proprietary software available for celebrants, but I haven't found anything that is open and free. The other problem is that one of the forms is bigger than A4 which makes it difficult to use in most printers- I have an HP 8550 which will take up to A3. It is possible that they have changed this form in the last couple of years as it's been a while since I've had to order that particular one which has remained unchanged for a couple of decades. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Re: Templates for Form Filling
On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:24:11 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/09/2008 04:54 PM, Keith Bates wrote: On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:27:47 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/09/2008 03:13 PM, Keith Bates wrote: After I've completed it and tested it, I will publish it for other Australian marriage celebrants to use. Thanks to Brian, Harold, Barbara and others who offered suggestions to point me in the right direction. Does Australia have standard 'electronic' forms of this type already for Word etc? If so you might import and modify those. Certainly there must already exist similar templates, as I wouldn't think that all Australian marriage forms are still handwritten. (BTW: I lived in Australia in the 80's - Gordon, NSW and even then many civic forms were computerised). It is possible to download a Word template for one of the forms, the certificate that is handed to the couple. I think there is also proprietary software available for celebrants, but I haven't found anything that is open and free. The other problem is that one of the forms is bigger than A4 which makes it difficult to use in most printers- I have an HP 8550 which will take up to A3. It is possible that they have changed this form in the last couple of years as it's been a while since I've had to order that particular one which has remained unchanged for a couple of decades. These forms? http://www.ag.gov.au/www/agd/agd.nsf/Page/Marriage_Formarriagecelebrants_Form15marriagecertificate That's just one of them. I've been using the doc template. The other forms include the Notice of Intention to Marry, and the Official Certificate of Marriage Form which is the one sent to the registrar. The second one also contains a statutory declaration on the back of it, the details of which also have to be filled in. As far as I know that last one is not available on the AG web-site -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Re: Templates for Form Filling
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:31:09 +1000 Adrian Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:27 AM, NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Australia have standard 'electronic' forms of this type already for Word etc? If so you might import and modify those. Certainly there must already exist similar templates, as I wouldn't think that all Australian marriage forms are still handwritten. Hi Keith - sorry I hadn't realised you were in Australia, or I would have replied sooner. And sorry that my reply is a little off topic for Ooo. A month or so ago I was giving some computer help to a woman who has just become a marriage celebrant. I was helping her work out how to use her marriage celebrant software, which is called Celebrant Express. http://www.celebrantexpress.com.au The software is a little expensive, and I assume only works on Windows, but was very easy to use, and once you had filled in their database with the required names, dates and places, would easily print out all of the required forms. If you need to fill these forms in a lot, it may be a worthwhile investment. Just a thought. Keith, let us know what you think of Celebrant Express. Adrian Hi Adrian, It looks very good and would be perfect for people who are full-time celebrants. The downside is that it is only available in Windows. Also it is locked into proprietary systems-- MS Word (I don't know if it can be configured to work with ODF or in conjunction with OO using .doc formats), MYOB etc. For those of us who only do a few weddings a year it is definitely overkill! The approach I'm taking with this project is to get the information into the right place that the user can print it onto forms as needed. I will produce it as a template so that a document will be produced for each couple. Then it's just a matter of printing page 2 for the Notice of Intention to Marry, p. 3 for the declarations etc. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Templates for Form Filling
This is probably really easy to do, but I'm not sure where to look for instructions. When I perform marriages I need to fill in about three or four forms plus statutory declarations with the names of the bride and groom, addresses, occupation, mother's maiden name etc. The forms are not all the same format. At the moment, most of them are filled in by hand because it's easier than making the effort to organise templates etc. to print the information into the right spot on the form. What I'm thinking is make a document (spreadsheet?) to enter the information then have OO put that into the right places so I can print onto the forms. Can somebody please suggest how I might do that and point me towards a relevant tutorial or help file? Thanks -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Templates for Form Filling
Hi Anthony Apart from the scanning bit which isn't practical (one of the forms is bigger than A4 and my scanner is maximum A4) I thought the answer would be something like that. I've had a quick look at XForms to see if that's the way to go... I may have to just measure the positions of the fields on the forms- printing onto the forms isn't an issue. It's just finding the information on how to do it then the time and energy to actually do it, for something I don't have to do very often, but when I do do it, I always think there's got to be an easier way than this :) Keith On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:08:35 -0400 Anthony Chilco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Keith, I'd scan the documents, then drop them, one to a page in a writer file. Check the size to make sure that it's correct. Set up a spreadsheet with the information for the forms, then place a field that's linked to the spreadsheet for each bit of information that you want to import. When you print, turn off graphics in the print options. tc Keith Bates wrote: This is probably really easy to do, but I'm not sure where to look for instructions. When I perform marriages I need to fill in about three or four forms plus statutory declarations with the names of the bride and groom, addresses, occupation, mother's maiden name etc. The forms are not all the same format. At the moment, most of them are filled in by hand because it's easier than making the effort to organise templates etc. to print the information into the right spot on the form. What I'm thinking is make a document (spreadsheet?) to enter the information then have OO put that into the right places so I can print onto the forms. Can somebody please suggest how I might do that and point me towards a relevant tutorial or help file? Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] [moderated]
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 10:59 -0500, Dave Clabby wrote: I'm trying to open a file that was created with MS Office. When I try to open it it OO, a window comes up, Filter Selection with a list of software to open it with. ( I think) What do I do to get this file open? It says it's a PUB file. thanks Dave Hi Dave, The file would have been created with MS Publisher which OO can't open- nothing other than Publisher will open it. Your best bet is to re-open it in Publisher and save in another format such as .doc or .rtf which OO will open. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] [users] [moderated]
Just remembered to CC OP! On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 17:55 +1000, Keith Bates wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 10:59 -0500, Dave Clabby wrote: I'm trying to open a file that was created with MS Office. When I try to open it it OO, a window comes up, Filter Selection with a list of software to open it with. ( I think) What do I do to get this file open? It says it's a PUB file. thanks Dave Hi Dave, The file would have been created with MS Publisher which OO can't open- nothing other than Publisher will open it. Your best bet is to re-open it in Publisher and save in another format such as .doc or .rtf which OO will open. Just remembered to CC OP! -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Re: Base Ubuntu
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:06:00 -0500 Kevin Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Butler wrote: Keith Bates wrote: On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:50:02 +0200 Mechtilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Keith Bates schrieb: I've just upgraded my computer and thought I would give Ubuntu 8.04 a go, having previously used OO 2.4.1 under Debian. I've transferred all of my files successfully and everything works fine except the Base components. Need more information I can't open .odb database files, connect a .dbf file or even open a registered databases window (F4 in most versions of OOo I believe) I am sure you have checked this but... As a standard the ubuntu office suite does not include Base. Go to the package manager or even install programs and check the 'base' radio button. The application may need installation Kevin - Thanks Kevin. I did subsequently do just that. You seem to have missed by post about that- thanks anyway :) -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Base Ubuntu
I've just upgraded my computer and thought I would give Ubuntu 8.04 a go, having previously used OO 2.4.1 under Debian. I've transferred all of my files successfully and everything works fine except the Base components. I can't open .odb database files, connect a .dbf file or even open a registered databases window (F4 in most versions of OOo I believe) Before I go to the trouble of uninstalling the Ubuntu version of OOo and downloading from the OOo web-site, can someone tell me if these problems are a known feature of the Ubuntu version of OO or have I done something wrong in installing Ubuntu? I never under-estimate my ability to stuff up a simple install process! Thanks -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Re: Base Ubuntu
On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:50:02 +0200 Mechtilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Keith Bates schrieb: I've just upgraded my computer and thought I would give Ubuntu 8.04 a go, having previously used OO 2.4.1 under Debian. I've transferred all of my files successfully and everything works fine except the Base components. Need more information I can't open .odb database files, connect a .dbf file or even open a registered databases window (F4 in most versions of OOo I believe) Some error messages? Sorry... I know what I mean :) The form that I use for data entry no longer connects to the database. Pressing F4 to bring up the data sources window does nothing. Attempting to put the button for that action on the toolbar does nothing- I click the datasources box in the Visible Buttons menu and nothing happens. I try to open the .odb file and OO does not recognise it. It puts up a dialog box with all manner of options- everything but Open Office database file. When i try to open the .dbf file which stores the data it says Impossible to connect This is all on a database that has worked flawlessly for some time under previous versions of OOo. The version I now have installed is 2.4.1 Before I go to the trouble of uninstalling the Ubuntu version of OOo and downloading from the OOo web-site, can someone tell me if these problems are a known feature of the Ubuntu version of OO or have I done something wrong in installing Ubuntu? I never under-estimate my ability to stuff up a simple install process! Normally it should work Regards Mechtilde -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Base Ubuntu
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:12:17 +0200 Jean-Baptiste Faure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le Dimanche 3 Août 2008 09:37, Keith Bates a écrit : I've just upgraded my computer and thought I would give Ubuntu 8.04 a go, having previously used OO 2.4.1 under Debian. I've transferred all of my files successfully and everything works fine except the Base components. I can't open .odb database files, connect a .dbf file or even open a registered databases window (F4 in most versions of OOo I believe) Before I go to the trouble of uninstalling the Ubuntu version of OOo and downloading from the OOo web-site, can someone tell me if these problems are a known feature of the Ubuntu version of OO or have I done something wrong in installing Ubuntu? I never under-estimate my ability to stuff up a simple install process! Thanks Hi, you need to install packages openoffice.org that are not installed by default by Ubuntu. As far I can remember such packages refers to Java. JBF Thanks Jean Russell. I took a close look in synaptic and discovered that the Base is not actually installed by default. I didn't expect that! I'm currently installing a few other OO packages that seem to be neglected also. I hope this fixes it. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Base Ubuntu
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:31:09 +1000 Keith Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:12:17 +0200 Jean-Baptiste Faure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le Dimanche 3 Août 2008 09:37, Keith Bates a écrit : I've just upgraded my computer and thought I would give Ubuntu 8.04 a go, having previously used OO 2.4.1 under Debian. I've transferred all of my files successfully and everything works fine except the Base components. I can't open .odb database files, connect a .dbf file or even open a registered databases window (F4 in most versions of OOo I believe) Before I go to the trouble of uninstalling the Ubuntu version of OOo and downloading from the OOo web-site, can someone tell me if these problems are a known feature of the Ubuntu version of OO or have I done something wrong in installing Ubuntu? I never under-estimate my ability to stuff up a simple install process! Thanks Hi, you need to install packages openoffice.org that are not installed by default by Ubuntu. As far I can remember such packages refers to Java. JBF Thanks Jean Russell. I took a close look in synaptic and discovered that the Base is not actually installed by default. I didn't expect that! I'm currently installing a few other OO packages that seem to be neglected also. I hope this fixes it. It now works. Thanks for the pointers! -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] How to win friends for Open Office
I'm just wondering how many of those who participated in the god ubuntu thread gave any thought to what they were actually doing when they jumped in with their enlightened comments on religion. If I were a brand new user of Open Office asking for help on my new installation of this strange software, do you think I would welcome having my deeply held beliefs mocked and derided not just by one member of this so-called community but by several. Do you think I would have gone away thinking Wow! Open Office really rocks with all those really kind helpful understanding people out there wanting to give me a hand? Or do you think I would have thought What a bunch of self-righteous jerks. I might as well use some other software even if I have to pay some multinational corporation. Just a thought. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Strange Delays on List
For ages, I've been noticing that some messages on the OO list seem to be delayed, by up to 24 hours. For most of this week I've received far fewer messages than normal, but this morning (Thursday) I've received a whole week's worth (almost) from Sunday to the present. Does anyone have any idea why this could be happening? It makes it really hard to offer any contribution to the community. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Strange Delays on List
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:43:26 -0700 Rodney Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 30, 2008, at 6:32 PM, James Knott wrote: Keith Bates wrote: For ages, I've been noticing that some messages on the OO list seem to be delayed, by up to 24 hours. For most of this week I've received far fewer messages than normal, but this morning (Thursday) I've received a whole week's worth (almost) from Sunday to the present. Does anyone have any idea why this could be happening? It makes it really hard to offer any contribution to the community. Thursday morning??? It's only Wednesday evening! ;-) Depending on which side of the International Date Line you are on. ;-) I'm on the right side, and it's definitely Thursday morning here-- just. We're nearly into afternoon. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Installing OO.o on PCLinuxOS
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:14:21 -0700 Bob Estes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just installed and updated PCLinuxOS 2007 in a dual boot configuration with Windows XP PRO, SP3. This is my first experience with any form of Linux. OOo came with the PCLinux installation, and the Synaptic package manager updated it to v. 2.3.1. I downloaded the 2.4.1 Linux version from the OOo website, but I can't figure how to install it. (Double clicking the installation file like in Windows don't work.) Since I am new to Linux, please be specific with your instructions. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK it's not real hard but it takes a couple of steps. I'm assuming that since you use synaptic the packages you downloaded are debian packages. OOo comes as several .deb packages archived together in a tar file. You will need to open a console window. 1. Copy the OOo. .tar.gz file to the directory you wnat to install it to. That might be your home directory or somewhere like /opt (you will need to log on as root to do the latter- use su) 2. tar -zxvf OOo_2.4.1etc etc.tar.gz 3. cd to the resulting OOo 2.4 folder... this will be full of files ending in .deb 4. dpkg -i *.deb 5. Wait. This should put relevant menu items into your main menu and it should be good to go. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] CAN YOU LIVE WITHOUT MICROSOFT OFFICE?
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:48:37 -0400 Fred A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CAN YOU LIVE WITHOUT MICROSOFT OFFICE? -- The latest incarnation has met with a mixed reaction and more people are opting for Macs and Linux. The time is right to see if you can survive without Microsoft Office. A new generation of alternatives is cropping up from two directions: cloud computing and open source software. Read on: http://cwflyris.computerworld.com/t/3357163/250558731/126072/0/ I've never, ever used MS Office... not even once. i have used Worperfect, the Lotus Office suite (name eludes me at the moment), Star Office, OOo -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Open Office 2.4.1 FAILURE
On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:18:40 -0700 Carl Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 15:11 +1000, Keith Bates wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:56:32 -0700 Carl Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded the Suse 10.x version of Open Office version 2.4.0 and later 2.4.1 both fail to render my collection of true type fonts correctly. 2.3.x worked fine. Somewhere in the libraries is a flaw. Only the preincluded fonts which came with the system work in OOo 2.4.x. The fonts display correctly in the font viewers and in other programs. What has been downgraded in 2.4.x? It must be an OpenSuse issue. Mine works fine in debian using OOo 2.4.1 (and previous versions also) downloaded from the OOo site. Was that the Debian version or the generic targz version? I think that was me who posted that reply! It was the debian package from the OOo site. It ends in .deb.tar.gz So I guess you untar it and do dpkg -i *.deb (from memory.) Earlier version were only available in rpm and for that I used alien to produce debs. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Running Impress Presentations from a Script
I am trying to use Impress to run a presentation from a script (under linux). What I need is to have Impress stop completely when the presentation ends instead of exiting to the edit screen. Is there any way to do this? For a variety of reasons, I find magicpoint is the best program for showing songs in church, but I am wanting something with a bit more interest for notices. The script that I use is as follows: mgp -F 0,0,0 ../songlist.mgp /opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/soffice.bin -show Notices.odp mgp -F 0,0,0 ../songlist.mgp The ideal is for openoffice to completely quit when the operator presses Esc and to then re-start magicpoint, ready for the next song. Having OO go to the edit screen, then requiring the operator to click the exit button is a bit of a distraction. The IR receiver on the projector is broken and so we can't just turn it off easily. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Open Office 2.4.1 FAILURE
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:56:32 -0700 Carl Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded the Suse 10.x version of Open Office version 2.4.0 and later 2.4.1 both fail to render my collection of true type fonts correctly. 2.3.x worked fine. Somewhere in the libraries is a flaw. Only the preincluded fonts which came with the system work in OOo 2.4.x. The fonts display correctly in the font viewers and in other programs. What has been downgraded in 2.4.x? It must be an OpenSuse issue. Mine works fine in debian using OOo 2.4.1 (and previous versions also) downloaded from the OOo site. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Setting default font in Writer
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Troy S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OOo community-- How do I make Arial the default font in Writer? That is, when I open a new document the font is Arial. Thanks, Troy You can use the follwoing method to not only set default font, but any other setting in your document. You need to change the Default template then save it. 1. In the top menu File- New- Documents and Templates 2. Click on the Templates button in the left column, then select Defualt in the list of templates. Click the Open button. 3. In the document that opens, select the font, size etc. 4. Go to File- Templates- Save as then click on Default and save the file. Important: If you type any text it will appear in any new document that you start. Also you must make sure you save as a template and don't just save as a normal document as your changes will not take effect. Alternatively: choose Tools - Options - OpenOffice.org Writer - Basic Fonts (Western) and modify the Default font. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Headers
On Sun, 25 May 2008 07:43:24 -0400 bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a new convert to OO from WordPerfect and I can not figure out how to set headers so that: 1) page 1 does not get a header, and/or 2)partway through the document the header changes. (not even/odd headers) help please. Hi Bill, Welcome to the wonderful world of OOo! 1) Your best bet if you only want the first page to not have a header is to use styles. You define a first page style that does not have a header, and a normal page style that does. When defining the first page style make sure that you select normal page in the Next style box in the dialog. 2) again i think you could use styles- have a first section page style and a second section page style. Or else use Insert section to let you re-define the standard page layout subsequent to where you want to change things. See the Help articles on styles and sections for further info. OOo relies heavily in styles which when you get used to it is actually a Good Thing. It can just take a while to get used to it. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OOo Functionality to Support e-mail
On Fri, 16 May 2008 12:04:36 +0300 (EAT) Sammy Njuguna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/5/16 jonathon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: What is being called for is the ability to say - there is one ( or more ) email clients that works closely with the other modules in the package. Other than the ability to use OOo to create webpages that masquerade as email, what functionality does OOo need, to better integrate with email clients? My take. I have invented a *notional* program called The Mail Program which I will refer to as TMP. This *might* be an existing program that gets modified, Thunderbird for example, or a new program that gets written for the purpose. I don't much care except that Thunderbird comes close to fitting the bill already. But if there is a better candidate ... I also expect that whichever of OOo and TMP is installed *second* on a user's system will notice that the other is already there and configure itself accordingly, or at least to offer the user a choice (or series of choices) as to whether s/he wants this. I also expect that if TMP and OOo are both installed and if the user then uninstalls one of them, then the one that remains does *not* lose functionality. For example, with MS Office, if the user uninstalls Word, Outlook Express can no longer check spelling. As far as I am concerned this is just shoddy. The numbering below is for convenience only. I do *not* intend it to imply a priority ordering. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org Could'nt have put it better myself Harold,That is the way to go! Sorry, I have to disagree. Firstly the assumption that an office suite should do everything one does in an office is an absolute fallacy. People might assume that's the way it is, but it doesn't make it right. But the assumption is itself contradictory. Why do we not hear any requests for integration of financial software into OO? After all financial controls such as accounting, invoices, payroll, etc. etc. are core to any business. The only reason why we don't get hundreds of emails asking where is the accounting module is that Microsoft doesn't do it that way. People have been conditioned to make certain assumptions about what belongs and does not belong in an office suite. Does OO have to meet that assumption? I don't think so. We can suggest alternatives ways of doing things and that's fine. Next, question is this: If we believe that email should come in pretty forms rather than just straight text, who determines what format all those pretty features are going to be in? It used to be html until MS in its infinite wisdom decided that email composition was a word processing feature not an email feature and changed the default into .doc format rather than html. So do we let people compose .doc or .odf in your TMP? Should proprietary document formats even be considered when sending documents by email (much less composed in an email program)? What about those silly schmucks like me that think email is best composed as a plain text format for most situations? What if we choose to use a non-Thunderbird, non-TMP program that is actually far better than Thunderbird (obviously I don't know what features TMP has!) at dealing with email. How would you see this working in all the different operating systems that OOo is produced on? It would be particularly galling to linux users such as myself who believe in the philosophy that an application should just do one thing really well and communicate well with other applications rather than trying to do everything in one monolithic world-dominating program that takes a super-computer to run and is prone to break by the nature of its architecture. Why should OOo, which is trying to break the stranglehold of one software manufacturer, be beholden to the same philosophy and then tied to another organisation in this way? Yes let's work on better communication between, for example, dictionaries and email composition. But let's not fall for the bigger is better, tying everything together is better belief that has really done little more than change one set of problems for another. OOo is a brilliant office application. It can do better. The way ahead is actually the way that Firefox has moved forward- plug-ins and extensions. OOo is just starting to move down that track and i think as extensions develop, many of these problems will be sorted out by third party developers working out add-ons that will meet specific needs. That's my take on it all. And why doesn't Ooo have a podcatcher built in? After all I use my office computer to download and play music- that make it an office function for me :-) -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make
[users] 2.4 DEB not available
People looking for deb packages for 2.4 may be disappointed. Although the download page has a Download link, it only takes you to a page that says the option you selected is not available. I hope this is just a temporary phenomenon! -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: 2.4 DEB not available
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:55:06 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/27/2008 04:16 PM, Keith Bates wrote: People looking for deb packages for 2.4 may be disappointed. Although the download page has a Download link, it only takes you to a page that says the option you selected is not available. I hope this is just a temporary phenomenon! Click the Get more platforms and languages link. That's the page I was trying from. Clicking the English version in the third column takes you to: http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/download.php -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: 2.4 DEB not available
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:36:59 -0400 TomW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith: This mirror in australia will download the 'deb' version of 2.4.0 http://mirror.pacific.net.au/OpenOffice/stable/2.4.0/ TomW Thanks Tom. I had just finished downloading the rpms when i got your message- I was about to start converting them using alien. Downloading the debs will be somewhat faster. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: 2.4 DEB not available
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:56:18 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/27/2008 05:13 PM, Keith Bates wrote: On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:55:06 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/27/2008 04:16 PM, Keith Bates wrote: People looking for deb packages for 2.4 may be disappointed. Although the download page has a Download link, it only takes you to a page that says the option you selected is not available. I hope this is just a temporary phenomenon! Click the Get more platforms and languages link. That's the page I was trying from. Clicking the English version in the third column takes you to: http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/download.php Odd you are correct. I have to admit I'd not tried it as I had loaded my version from the mirrors awhile back as rc6. [Note to others that already have rc6 installed - you don't need to download the released version as it is the same; the md5sums match for the deb files.] I installed DEBs from a mirror and installed after a brief trip through dependency purgatory. I had the debian version of OOo 2.3 installed and even after I removed all Openoffice packages there was a problem with base. It conflicted with a package called hsqldbn which I finally tracked down and purged. Now I just have to work out how to stop synaptic from trying to install the debian version when 2.4 makes it into testing. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] New OOo Website/design
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:17:43 + Drew Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy crap Batman... http://www.openoffice.org/ has a whole new look asof a few minutes ago. Rather nice look I think. Much improved appearance. I think most first-time visitors will find it MUCH easier to find their way around. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] PDF to Write (Word type file)
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:39:46 +0100 M Henri Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/3/14, jonathon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Jim Jacketti wrote: you also create write files from a pdf format? Only if you are an UberGeek. (The tools are available, and do work, but you have to compile your own version of OOo to include them.) xan jonathon -- OOo can not correct for incompetence in creating documents from MSO. Furthermore,OOo can not compensate for the defective and flawed security measures used by Microsoft. As such, before using this product for exams that require faulty and defective software, ensure that you will not be unjustly penalized for the incompetence of the organization that requires the use of software that is known to be flawed, defective, bug-ridden, and fails to meet ISO file format standards. Jonathon, wouldn't the inclusion of these tools be something to request in coming versions of OOo - say from 3 onward - for those of us who have not renewed our membership in the ÜberGeek Club lately ?... Henri I believe that it is actively being worked on for v 3. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] Program Does Not Include Base
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:38:42 +1100 Dave Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message From: Lester Silberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri 14 Mar 2008 07:09:27 EST The version of OpenOffice that came with my new 4G Asus eeepc does not include the database program, Base. What makes you believe that Base is not included? Unless ASUS has supplied an old version, or an unnecessarily modified edition, of OOo (OpenOffice.org), with your new computer (very unlikely) then base is included. Is there a way that this can be downloaded separately? The computer uses Linux. Thank you Les Silberman Try opening a terminal and type sbase (without quotation marks) and the Base wizard should start. In which case, you can create a new menu entry or a desktop link. If the Base wizard does not start, open another OOo module (eg. Writer) and select the File - New - Database menu option. If none of the above works, uninstall the ASUS supplied edition and download and install the latest version from: http://download.openoffice.org/index.html OOo is a fully integrated office program, not a collection of separate programs, you cannot download modules (eg. Base) individually. Hope this helps. Dave Lester, I've just fired up my Eee to make sure that the full version of OOo is installed and in fact it is. The problem may be that there is no short-cut to it in the Easy Desktop mode. Just click on the link to OOo write (in the Work section, I think it is) and then when OOo starts up, go to File- New- Database. This should start the Base wizard... it works fine on my Asus Eee. The Eee forums contain many hacks and useful tips for doing things like adding links to the desktop, modifying menus etc.Go to:: http://www.eeeuser.com/ -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Linux versions?
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:48:51 + Lisi Reisz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 06 February 2008 15:42, karci wrote: There are 2 options to download OO for Linux 2.2.13 (RPM: 138MB; w/JRE 156MB) 2.2.13 (DEB: 137MB) Which one is better for Debian? The deb. But have you a reason for not using aptitude? (Or apt-get? Or even Synaptic?) Admittedly you get 2.0.4 (Etch) (or a later version in Lenny), where the current version is 2.3.1 (2.3.x?), but I do not find that a serious problem. If you do, use the deb. I do not seem to have any quirks here as the people who use the Ubuntu version do - merely an older version. HTH Lisi I've found the debs downloaded from OOo work well, so you can get the latest version. Just download the file,untar it and use dpkg -i *.deb to install it all. I use debian testing and ran into conflicts yesterday when 2.3.1 made it into the debian repository. I eventually sorted it out though. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:47:41 -0500 Rick W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Whom It May Concern, Why do I have to register everytime I open the program. I have register three times all ready. This is a pain and very annoying. Looking to hear from you r. Washburn You don't have to register every time. When the registration box comes up, select I have already registered and it should never ask you again. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Abiword to OO?
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:15:34 -0500 Wade Buhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It turns out that a rig that I am converting to DSL does not have the capacity to connect to the net to add the Open Office extension. It DOES have AbiWord on the live CD, though. My question is this: Does Open Office support the AbiWord format? Thx in advance, Your question is confusing. DSL usually refers to a type of internet connection, but I'm guessing from the question that in this case it is Damn Small Linux which is a variation on linux operating system. While open Ofice doesn't support the AbiWord native format, Abi Word can read (and from memory) can write to the ISO standard format which Open Office uses. I found from my attempts to open OO files in Abi Word that it doesn't cope with complex documents- I'm talking about a newsletter with multiple graphics and text boxes. It should cope with less complex OO documents. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] time billing - invoice database in OO
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:12:31 -0800 (PST) Peter Tyler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a time billing invoice database template. i.e. forms and tables. I had a look on google and the OO website, but couldn't find anything GPL or otherwise. Could someone point me in the right direction please? Thanks Best Regards Peter Tyler Peter Have you tried the built-in templates? Go File- New- database then select create new database and after closing edit tables and then use form wizards to create forms. There are a number of options with pre-designed tables etc, including invoice forms. I've never used them so I can't vouch for their usefulness. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: drawing tables dynamically in writer; need a macro for this?
On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:26:17 -0500 James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H.S. wrote: H.S. wrote: Hello, I am looking to draw a table with two rows and N columns, where N is the number of items in a numbered list. Any ideas how to go about accomplishing this in Openoffice.org Writer? Macros? I guess the first thing I need is a counter, call it ctrN, that tells me how many items there are in a specified list. So the counter's value is zero in a new document but increments with each item in the list. Next, I need to somehow be able to draw a table dynamically, with two rows and ctrN columns. I just don't have any idea where to begin, or even it this is possible in Openoffice.org. It should be possible in Writer with a macro. I'm not a macro expert though. There is a guide to BASIC at: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/BASIC_Guide Hope that helps you get started. -- God bless you, Keith Bates www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Mailing List netiquette (Was Outlines in Writer)
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:54:47 -0600 Troll/Idiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Adams wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:31:09 -0600 Troll/Idiot wrote: Dear Mr. Troll/Idiot, He changed the subject line but he did not start a new thread. Anyone reading the list in a threaded view sees his subject in the same thread as the original subject. To start a new subject you need to send a new message rather than replying to a previous message and just changing the subject. People refer to this as hijacking a thread. We've had this discussion before. The guidelines for this list suggest changing the subject line. That's what he did. I don't see any such recommendation; if this is true it would be very non-standard. Could you provide a reference please. http://www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html I suppose by non-standard you mean unfamiliar to you. It is, in my experience, standard. Here's the quote from the page you reference yourself. Stay on topic When the context of the message changes, be sure to change the subject line, or your mail may not be read by many subscribers. There are two different issues: 1. The one addressed by the article - which is what has happened on this thread. The topic or thread starts off talking about issue 1 but as the conversation develops the topic changes. The list guidelines recommend that as that occurs you indicate that in the subject line. 2. Hijacking a thread happens when someone takes an existing email that they have received and deletes the content and the subject in order to post a completely new topic. Email programs which just sort by subject present this as a new topic. More sophisticated email readers are not tricked by the subject header because they use other headers to determine what is threaded together- these programs show the new topic interleaved with the old because they believe that the intention of the hijacker was to continue the old conversation with a new subject header. This is not the fault of the email programs as the standards that govern email require the more sophisticated approach. I don't believe that the mailing list guidelines are meant to condone or encourage thread hijacking. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Mailing List netiquette (Was Outlines in Writer)
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:09:14 -0600 Troll/Idiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not the fault of the email programs as the standards that govern email require the more sophisticated approach. I don't believe that the mailing list guidelines are meant to condone or encourage thread hijacking. Since many of the people posting questions to this list appear to be quite inexperienced with all aspects of computer use, I think that we're lucky when the subject line is changed, and in some cases lucky that there is a subject line at all. For those who are concerned about hijacking, I suggest, as I have suggested before, that they volunteer to update the guidelines. In the meantime, I suggest that more sophisticated email readers be set to follow threads by subject line when reading this list. If they do not have that capability, it seems they might be different, but not necessarily more sophisticated. No, the right approach is the one that is taken on this list- politely point out to people that what they have done is incorrect, and ultimately detrimental to themselves as 1. they may miss out on having their question answered. 2. they may venture onto another list that is not as kind to newbies as this one and find themselves being flamed mercilessly for behaviour which they have come to experience as being correct. Your approach is like saying I drive on the left hand side of the road in Australia so therefore American drivers should change their behaviour when I go there. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] 2.3.1 Download
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:08:01 -0800 John Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To users and James Knott: I see exactly what the original version says it is, OOo2.3 and nothing else! At the risk of insulting your intelligence - I'm not trying to do that- what does it say in the small print on the About screen? In large print it should say Open Office 2.3 then directly below this in small print, in 2.3.1 it says Open Office 2.3.1. I presume that in 2.3.0 it says Open Office 2.3.0 James Knott wrote: Robert J. Flipse wrote: I downloaded 2.3.1 and when I installed it, it was identified as 2.3. Shouldn't it be identified as 2.3.1? That depends on where you see it. If the splash screen, it will show 2.3. To find the actual version, click on Help About OpenOffice.org. Please respond only to the mail list (users@openoffice.org) and not directly to me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Printing Multiple Copies
I'm using OOo 2.3 under linux (debian) and a HP 8550GN Colour Laser Jet printer on a network. If I print multiple copies of a document it takes forever because OOo seems to just re-send the same information n times. For example if I print twenty copies of a document it sends the first copy, the printer wakes up , warms up, gets ready then prints the first copy. Then OOo sends the next copy, we repeat the process and it can take half a day to print out say 100 single page copies. It may not be OOo as it seems to go pretty quickly through business of sending the stuff out to CUPS, at least judging by the printing message box that comes up. I've seen other applications spit out several pages one after the other. So how can i get OOo to effectively tell the printer here's a document- print it 20 times instead of here's a document. OK you;'ve done that one? Right, here's another one not entirely unlike the one you've just done- take your time and do it very carefully. Yeah I know it's probably an issue with CUPS or some other inscrutable part of the printing system. But if some linux guru out there is able to print copies quickly on a printer I'd like to hear- what are the secrets? Thanks -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Printing Multiple Copies
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:21:27 +1100 Daniel Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 13:53 +1100, Keith Bates wrote: If I print multiple copies of a document it takes forever because OOo seems to just re-send the same information n times. snipped Yeah I know it's probably an issue with CUPS or some other inscrutable part of the printing system. I've also had problems printing 1 copy, and went off to the CUPS issue tracker to see if the problem was there. Apparently it's not. I was told in no uncertain terms that OOo's postscript output is quite broken. At the time, I couldn't get any more than 1 copy printed. Perhaps someone has changed something recently, and you can get more than 1, but it's slow. At any rate, the way I print multiple copies is to export to a PDF, open the PDF in evince, and print multiple copies from there. Thanks for that Daniel. It's a bit of a long way round, but I'll give it a go and see if it saves on printing time. I might see if there's an issue been filed. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Printing Multiple Copies
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:56:47 +1100 Keith Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:21:27 +1100 Daniel Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 13:53 +1100, Keith Bates wrote: If I print multiple copies of a document it takes forever because OOo seems to just re-send the same information n times. snipped Yeah I know it's probably an issue with CUPS or some other inscrutable part of the printing system. I've also had problems printing 1 copy, and went off to the CUPS issue tracker to see if the problem was there. Apparently it's not. I was told in no uncertain terms that OOo's postscript output is quite broken. At the time, I couldn't get any more than 1 copy printed. Perhaps someone has changed something recently, and you can get more than 1, but it's slow. At any rate, the way I print multiple copies is to export to a PDF, open the PDF in evince, and print multiple copies from there. Thanks for that Daniel. It's a bit of a long way round, but I'll give it a go and see if it saves on printing time. Just did a rough test. Printing 3 copies of one document: Printing through OOo-- took 6 min 15 sec. Printing 3 copies of pdf from evince-- 2 minutes 40 sec. Obviously that doesn't include the time of converting to pdf which is negligible. That is very interesting and suggests that there really is a problem in the way OOo produces its postcript Keith -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] The Dreaded .docx format
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:49:26 -0700 Mark Hull-Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/12/07, Harold Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, I think I goofed. If you use an editor that *properly* supports regular expressions then what I should have told you to change was ^[]* without the quotes. That's less-than, circumflex, open-square-bracket, greater-than, close-square-bracket, asterisk, greater-than. I forgot that in a proper implementation the asterisk is greedy which is why (I think) you lost your text. Even with this you'll lose all the formatting. Close: it's [^]* (without the quotes, with the caret inside the brackets). It means followed by any number of 'character-that-is-not-a-' followed by a . mhr Thanks Mark. It worked. Then all I had to do was delete spurious line breaks, spaces and tabs to recover the text... what a mess! -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: The Dreaded .docx format
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:46:20 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/12/2007 08:25 PM, Keith Bates wrote: Thanks Mark. It worked. Then all I had to do was delete spurious line breaks, spaces and tabs to recover the text... what a mess! The alternative is that you can ask someone else on the list to convert for you. Not a good situation if the doc contains any sensitive info, but if not I'm sure that some here could/can assist. Then again, others suggested that you contact the sender and request that he/she simply save as a standard .doc file and resend to you. Did you make this request, *and if so what was the result*? If you followed the thread from the beginning, I did make that request and also explained to them why it is an issue- in particular the person who sent me the document networks with many people including people in developing countries who cannot afford to be on the upgrade treadmill. I also recommended OOo, giving him the web-site address. I also suggested a hierarchy of preferred formats for files, including rtf and pdf. The person involved has not yet re-sent the document but he will eventually. Afterall, the sender will experience problems sending the same .docx to normal MS Office users that do not have MSO 2007 and/or MSO 2007 conversion patches or software. For the time being wouldn't it just be better just to have the sender realise that what they are sending isn't compatible with anyone but MSO 2007 users? Apparently you don't mind jumping through hoops to accomodate the .docx file sender (you are on day 2 of trying to figure out how to read this senders file and are also including time spent by this lists users)... isn't your (and the list users') time a little more valuable than spending 2 days trying to figure out how to decode the file for you? It's called a learning experience.Besides, I did not spend 2 whole days sitting in front of my computer trying to figure the problem out. I have a life. It's already a known fact that .docx is not currently handled in OOo. So contact the sender, ask them to resend to you in a valid format, stop wasting your, and the lists, time figuring out the file. Actually it's not wasting anybody's time as I knew what I needed to do. I tried at least two web based conversion tools which failed. I also tried a tool produced by Novell as a plug-in for their version of OOo but which does not seem always to work in other flavours of linux... at least it didn't work for me. My question at the beginning was a reasonable question because you just don't know what macros or plug-ins may be available, possibly produced by a list member and not yet published on the net. My only other waste of list member's time was a request for help with Regular Expressions. And since other OOo users are going to have to deal with MS's stupid file formats, no it isn't a waste of time documenting some approaches to dealing with it. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] The Dreaded .docx format
Hello, Someone has sent me one of those evil files in the Mcrosoft 2007 docx format. I have scoured the internet for a way to convert it. I have used a couple of on-line methods to try to convert it (zamzar and Docx-Converter.com and both failed. I have tried to use a method involving a Novell stand-alone converter, but it has installed and disappeared from my system :-( Are there yet any linux open source methods for opening this thing? Failing that, can someone tell me how to use regular expressions to remove the formatting commands in the basic xml file i.e. I want to remove anything between these brackets No matter how long I look at the help file my brain just does not get reg ex ! Thanks -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] The Dreaded .docx format
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:24:42 +0200 M Henri Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/10/11, John Jason Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:50:52 +0200 M Henri Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: 2007/10/11, Keith Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Someone has sent me one of those evil files in the Mcrosoft 2007 docx format. Keith, you might want to try downloading MS's own «compatibilitypack» for Office products, which can be found here : *http://tinyurl.com/2bsvhf*http://tinyurl.com/2bsvhf. Fortunately, I haven't needed to use it myself and therefore cannot attest to its fucntionality with 100 % certainty, but it should work According to the site Henri posted above, the converter only works on Windows. What do you do if your computer is Linux? John Jason is, of course, correct, for some reason I hadn't quite taken in what should have been readily apparent from his letter, i e, that Keith is running Linux and not Windows. But perhaps Keith (and others) will find the discussion posted to the following thread on the English-language Ubuntu forum of some help in getting that Novell translator to work : * http://tinyurl.com/2678xq* Henri - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the suggestions guys. My first response was to gently explain to the sender the error of his ways- this is important because he communicates with hundreds of people around the world including many poor nations. I've requested that he re-sends it in a more appropriate format I've also pointed him to openoffice.org I'll take a look at the ubuntu forum suggestions. From another thread I see someone has suggested that docx support will be available in OOo v. 3 expected in 12 months. Frankly I think that is way too long to wait to be able to mix it with the big boy- not that I can offer any programming expertise to hurry it up! This is going to be a problem that spreads like the plague over the next 12 months as people get sucked into the upgrade or perish cycle and start spreading these things around like a virus! -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] The Dreaded .docx format
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:14:08 +0100 Harold Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/10/2007 12:33, Keith Bates wrote: Hello, Someone has sent me one of those evil files in the Mcrosoft 2007 docx format. Failing that, can someone tell me how to use regular expressions to remove the formatting commands in the basic xml file i.e. I want to remove anything between these brackets No matter how long I look at the help file my brain just does not get reg ex ! Thanks If this would work for you the solution is simple *providing* you can open the xml file in a text editor (vi ???) that supports regular expressions. Change the regular expression .* (that's less-than, dot, asterisk, greater-than, without the quotes) to nothing (a null string). The less-than and greater-than characters are interpreted literally; the dot star is interpreted as any number, including zero, of any character. However, I'm not sure if this is a good idea as it will lose *all* the formatting from the document. If that's OK with you then ... Thanks for that Harold. Unfortunately, doing this not only lost the formatting but 90% of the document as well! I suspect that it's a dud-- the document (as well as the format!). Nothing has been able to open it. I'll have to wait for my correspondent to respond to my request to re-send it. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OOo user list survey
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:24:13 +0100 Richard Travers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to find out how many people are actually subscribed to this User List to see if there is justification to make changes to how the list works with regard to subscribe requirements or not. You might also want to ask how many of us actually _want_ to see the current system changed? R. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Identifying Unsubscribed Posters (was Re: [users] Are these files/folders needed???)
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:18:02 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you like seeing the same questions asked several times a day everyday? There are a lot of casual users on Windows, and now apparently MAC as well, who do not even try to find an answer to their question they just go to the site find the e-mail address that they think is going to one person or paid support and ask their question that was already answered 6 times today and yesterday and the day before etc. etc. etc. Also if the people who so readily give the answers to those FAQs would stop doing it and start pointing the person to the archive or the FAQ page on the website, then some of it would stop and some of these casual users would learn how to think for them selves and find their answers without annoying 1000s of people on the list with the same old FAQs. Maybe these people don't know what FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) is and don't realize that the FAQs probably contain their answer and they could have found it quicker rather than later waiting for someone on this list to send them the answer. What I really love about the list is all of the above plus the fact that we have this discussion on average about once a month. (That's irony for those who missed it) Whatever your philosophy about using this as a means of helping people, it's pretty obvious that the current method of letting anyone post anything is pretty well broken. If people had to subscribe before they could post, and if they were directed to a well-crafted list of FAQ's that they had to say they had read before their subscription was accepted, that would reduce the volume of the list to about 1/3 of what it is. overcoming the often stated objection that newcomers might be overwhelmed by the volume of the list. The irony in all this is that the aim of making the list more accessible to new users who might not understand what mailing lists are about is in fact making it more difficult for experienced users to help those newbies. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Identifying Unsubscribed Posters (was Re: [users] Are these files/folders needed???)
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:18:02 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you like seeing the same questions asked several times a day everyday? There are a lot of casual users on Windows, and now apparently MAC as well, who do not even try to find an answer to their question they just go to the site find the e-mail address that they think is going to one person or paid support and ask their question that was already answered 6 times today and yesterday and the day before etc. etc. etc. Also if the people who so readily give the answers to those FAQs would stop doing it and start pointing the person to the archive or the FAQ page on the website, then some of it would stop and some of these casual users would learn how to think for them selves and find their answers without annoying 1000s of people on the list with the same old FAQs. Maybe these people don't know what FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) is and don't realize that the FAQs probably contain their answer and they could have found it quicker rather than later waiting for someone on this list to send them the answer. What I really love about the list is all of the above plus the fact that we have this discussion on average about once a month. (That's irony for those who missed it) Whatever your philosophy about using this as a means of helping people, it's pretty obvious that the current method of letting anyone post anything is pretty well broken. If people had to subscribe before they could post, and if they were directed to a well-crafted list of FAQ's that they had to say they had read before their subscription was accepted, that would reduce the volume of the list to about 1/3 of what it is. overcoming the often stated objection that newcomers might be overwhelmed by the volume of the list. The irony in all this is that the aim of making the list more accessible to new users who might not understand what mailing lists are about is in fact making it more difficult for experienced users to help those newbies. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Identifying Unsubscribed Posters (was Re: [users] Are these files/folders needed???)
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:18:02 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you like seeing the same questions asked several times a day everyday? There are a lot of casual users on Windows, and now apparently MAC as well, who do not even try to find an answer to their question they just go to the site find the e-mail address that they think is going to one person or paid support and ask their question that was already answered 6 times today and yesterday and the day before etc. etc. etc. Also if the people who so readily give the answers to those FAQs would stop doing it and start pointing the person to the archive or the FAQ page on the website, then some of it would stop and some of these casual users would learn how to think for them selves and find their answers without annoying 1000s of people on the list with the same old FAQs. Maybe these people don't know what FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) is and don't realize that the FAQs probably contain their answer and they could have found it quicker rather than later waiting for someone on this list to send them the answer. What I really love about the list is all of the above plus the fact that we have this discussion on average about once a month. (That's irony for those who missed it) Whatever your philosophy about using this as a means of helping people, it's pretty obvious that the current method of letting anyone post anything is pretty well broken. If people had to subscribe before they could post, and if they were directed to a well-crafted list of FAQ's that they had to say they had read before their subscription was accepted, that would reduce the volume of the list to about 1/3 of what it is. overcoming the often stated objection that newcomers might be overwhelmed by the volume of the list. The irony in all this is that the aim of making the list more accessible to new users who might not understand what mailing lists are about is in fact making it more difficult for experienced users to help those newbies. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Identifying Unsubscribed Posters (was Re: [users] Are these files/folders needed???)
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:18:02 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you like seeing the same questions asked several times a day everyday? There are a lot of casual users on Windows, and now apparently MAC as well, who do not even try to find an answer to their question they just go to the site find the e-mail address that they think is going to one person or paid support and ask their question that was already answered 6 times today and yesterday and the day before etc. etc. etc. Also if the people who so readily give the answers to those FAQs would stop doing it and start pointing the person to the archive or the FAQ page on the website, then some of it would stop and some of these casual users would learn how to think for them selves and find their answers without annoying 1000s of people on the list with the same old FAQs. Maybe these people don't know what FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) is and don't realize that the FAQs probably contain their answer and they could have found it quicker rather than later waiting for someone on this list to send them the answer. What I really love about the list is all of the above plus the fact that we have this discussion on average about once a month. (That's irony for those who missed it) Whatever your philosophy about using this as a means of helping people, it's pretty obvious that the current method of letting anyone post anything is pretty well broken. If people had to subscribe before they could post, and if they were directed to a well-crafted list of FAQ's that they had to say they had read before their subscription was accepted, that would reduce the volume of the list to about 1/3 of what it is. overcoming the often stated objection that newcomers might be overwhelmed by the volume of the list. The irony in all this is that the aim of making the list more accessible to new users who might not understand what mailing lists are about is in fact making it more difficult for experienced users to help those newbies. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Identifying Unsubscribed Posters (was Re: [users] Are these files/folders needed???)
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:18:02 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you like seeing the same questions asked several times a day everyday? There are a lot of casual users on Windows, and now apparently MAC as well, who do not even try to find an answer to their question they just go to the site find the e-mail address that they think is going to one person or paid support and ask their question that was already answered 6 times today and yesterday and the day before etc. etc. etc. Also if the people who so readily give the answers to those FAQs would stop doing it and start pointing the person to the archive or the FAQ page on the website, then some of it would stop and some of these casual users would learn how to think for them selves and find their answers without annoying 1000s of people on the list with the same old FAQs. Maybe these people don't know what FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) is and don't realize that the FAQs probably contain their answer and they could have found it quicker rather than later waiting for someone on this list to send them the answer. What I really love about the list is all of the above plus the fact that we have this discussion on average about once a month. (That's irony for those who missed it) Whatever your philosophy about using this as a means of helping people, it's pretty obvious that the current method of letting anyone post anything is pretty well broken. If people had to subscribe before they could post, and if they were directed to a well-crafted list of FAQ's that they had to say they had read before their subscription was accepted, that would reduce the volume of the list to about 1/3 of what it is. overcoming the often stated objection that newcomers might be overwhelmed by the volume of the list. The irony in all this is that the aim of making the list more accessible to new users who might not understand what mailing lists are about is in fact making it more difficult for experienced users to help those newbies. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Sorry for multiple postsRe: Identifying Unsubscribed Posters (was Re: [users] Are these files/folders needed???)
Sorry about that- my email client when berserk! Keith On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:29:46 +1000 Keith Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:18:02 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you like seeing the same questions asked several times a day everyday? There are a lot of casual users on Windows, and now apparently MAC as well, who do not even try to find an answer to their question they just go to the site find the e-mail address that they think is going to one person or paid support and ask their question that was already answered 6 times today and yesterday and the day before etc. etc. etc. Also if the people who so readily give the answers to those FAQs would stop doing it and start pointing the person to the archive or the FAQ page on the website, then some of it would stop and some of these casual users would learn how to think for them selves and find their answers without annoying 1000s of people on the list with the same old FAQs. Maybe these people don't know what FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) is and don't realize that the FAQs probably contain their answer and they could have found it quicker rather than later waiting for someone on this list to send them the answer. What I really love about the list is all of the above plus the fact that we have this discussion on average about once a month. (That's irony for those who missed it) Whatever your philosophy about using this as a means of helping people, it's pretty obvious that the current method of letting anyone post anything is pretty well broken. If people had to subscribe before they could post, and if they were directed to a well-crafted list of FAQ's that they had to say they had read before their subscription was accepted, that would reduce the volume of the list to about 1/3 of what it is. overcoming the often stated objection that newcomers might be overwhelmed by the volume of the list. The irony in all this is that the aim of making the list more accessible to new users who might not understand what mailing lists are about is in fact making it more difficult for experienced users to help those newbies. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Installing 2.3
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:18:56 -0700 John R. Sowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suse 9.3 I downloaded the file. It ended up in the /tmp directory. I mv'd it to /home/john/rpms If it had a .gz on the end before, it was gone now. Per the install instructions, I entered: tar xvzf filename I received an error indicating that this was not a gzipped file. I then, after reading the man file, dropped the z and it went ok. Then, per the instructions, I went to the new directory, and hen the RPMS directory, and entered: rpm -Uvh *.rpm I received the following message: error: Failed dependencies: java-1.4.2-sun = 1.4.2.13-0.1 is needed by (installed) java-1_4_2-sun-plugin-1.4.2.13-0.1 libjawt.so is needed by (installed) OpenOffice_org1-1.1.3-4.10 libjawt.so is needed by (installed) OpenOffice_org-2.0.0-1.7 linux:/home/john/rpms/OOG680_m5_native_packed-1_en-US.9221/RPMS # Glad I didn't delete the previous version! thoughts? Hi John, I know nothing about SUSE as I'm a Debian and Ubuntu user. I managed to install OOo 2.3 today using the debian packages and it went like a dream! It looks to me like you haven't got the version of java that the OO packages are looking for. Did you download the version of OOo with or without java? If without, maybe you need to re-download the with package. Otherwise, I can't help you. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: SUN Mgr-Have home user that cannot uninstall OpenOffice
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:53:25 -0700 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now on the other hand, we can :-) as we are as free as beer (where did that saying come from anyway?), unless of course we are the one whos shout it is at the moment :-) Gary The expression is free as in beer not as free as beer. It is sued to contrast the type of freedom that you have when somebody gives you something for free (as in beer or software) as opposed to the freedom or liberty to do what you like with the software like in free speech. The expression is not to imply that you can get beer is known for its zero price. -- God bless you, Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri NSW 2390 Phone: 02 67924890 Fax: 02 67925418 www.new-life.org.au If you don't have a reason to live JESUS IS THE ANSWER! Ask him into your life today... He really does make a difference. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
