[users] Scribus will not open PDF files created by OOo

2009-05-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
It seems that there may be a problem with PDF files created by OOo (or
a problem with Scribus, which is possible). PDF file created by OOo
3.0 and 3.1 on Ubuntu are unreadable by Scribus on that same OS. I
have not checked other versions or OSes. Does anyone here know how to
determine if a file is a legal PDF, in order to decide if it is OOo
not creating legal PDFs or Scribus that is not reading legal PDFs?

Thanks!

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Re: [users] Scribus will not open PDF files created by OOo

2009-05-30 Thread John Meyer
Why are you opening pdfs in Scribus?  I've always thought of PDFs as a 
final output, not a file to be edited.

Dotan Cohen wrote:

It seems that there may be a problem with PDF files created by OOo (or
a problem with Scribus, which is possible). PDF file created by OOo
3.0 and 3.1 on Ubuntu are unreadable by Scribus on that same OS. I
have not checked other versions or OSes. Does anyone here know how to
determine if a file is a legal PDF, in order to decide if it is OOo
not creating legal PDFs or Scribus that is not reading legal PDFs?

Thanks!

  



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Re: [users] Scribus will not open PDF files created by OOo

2009-05-30 Thread David B Teague


The PDF readers Foxit and Adobe read all pdf and hybrid pdf files I have 
generated with OO.o. 2.x and 3.x.  If there is indeed a verifier for PDF 
other than the several  interpreters out there, I'd like to know about it.


David

Dotan Cohen wrote:

It seems that there may be a problem with PDF files created by OOo (or
a problem with Scribus, which is possible). PDF file created by OOo
3.0 and 3.1 on Ubuntu are unreadable by Scribus on that same OS. I
have not checked other versions or OSes. Does anyone here know how to
determine if a file is a legal PDF, in order to decide if it is OOo
not creating legal PDFs or Scribus that is not reading legal PDFs?

Thanks!

  




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Re: [users] Scribus will not open PDF files created by OOo

2009-05-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
 Why are you opening pdfs in Scribus?  I've always thought of PDFs as a final
 output, not a file to be edited.

I am triaging a bug for another user.

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Re: [users] Scribus will not open PDF files created by OOo

2009-05-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
 The PDF readers Foxit and Adobe read all pdf and hybrid pdf files I have
 generated with OO.o. 2.x and 3.x.  If there is indeed a verifier for PDF
 other than the several  interpreters out there, I'd like to know about it.


It would be reasonable to assume that readers could read _some_
not-legal documents. Depending on the flaws, of course.

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Re: [users] Scribus will not open PDF files created by OOo

2009-05-30 Thread Andy

Dotan,

To test I tried to open known good, created with Acrobat, in Scribus and 
get an error.  It would seem the problem is with the Scribus.  Hope this 
helps.


Dotan Cohen wrote:

It seems that there may be a problem with PDF files created by OOo (or
a problem with Scribus, which is possible). PDF file created by OOo
3.0 and 3.1 on Ubuntu are unreadable by Scribus on that same OS. I
have not checked other versions or OSes. Does anyone here know how to
determine if a file is a legal PDF, in order to decide if it is OOo
not creating legal PDFs or Scribus that is not reading legal PDFs?

Thanks!



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Re: [users] Scribus will not open PDF files created by OOo

2009-05-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
 To test I tried to open known good, created with Acrobat, in Scribus and get
 an error.  It would seem the problem is with the Scribus.  Hope this helps.


Thanks, Andy, that's great to know.

If there is no sensitive info in that file, and you wouldn't mind me
posting it to a bug report, then I'd appreciate if you would send to
me the file in private mail.

Thanks!

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Re: [users] Scribus will not open PDF files created by OOo

2009-05-30 Thread John Meyer

Dotan Cohen wrote:

To test I tried to open known good, created with Acrobat, in Scribus and get
an error.  It would seem the problem is with the Scribus.  Hope this helps.




Thanks, Andy, that's great to know.

If there is no sensitive info in that file, and you wouldn't mind me
posting it to a bug report, then I'd appreciate if you would send to
me the file in private mail.

Thanks!

  


I'm not so sure you wouldn't want to file it with the Scribus buglist.  
A cursory check of Scribus revealed no known bugs matching that description.



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Re: [users] Scribus will not open PDF files created by OOo

2009-05-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
 I'm not so sure you wouldn't want to file it with the Scribus buglist.  A
 cursory check of Scribus revealed no known bugs matching that description.


‎That's a hard one for me! Do you mean to say:
I'm sure you would want to file it with the Scribus buglist
?

Because that is what I intend to do.

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Re: [users] Scribus will not open PDF files created by OOo

2009-05-30 Thread Andy

Dotan,

The file I use can be found via a link at www.dhs.gov find the link to 
the I-9 form on the main page.  I have also loaded this file into PDFill 
which is the closest I have found to Acrobat as an pdf editor and it 
loads and allows editing.



Dotan Cohen wrote:

Thanks, Andy, that's great to know.

If there is no sensitive info in that file, and you wouldn't mind me
posting it to a bug report, then I'd appreciate if you would send to
me the file in private mail.

Thanks!



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Re: [users] Scribus will not open PDF files created by OOo

2009-05-30 Thread James Knott
Dotan Cohen wrote:
 It seems that there may be a problem with PDF files created by OOo (or
 a problem with Scribus, which is possible). PDF file created by OOo
 3.0 and 3.1 on Ubuntu are unreadable by Scribus on that same OS. I
 have not checked other versions or OSes. Does anyone here know how to
 determine if a file is a legal PDF, in order to decide if it is OOo
 not creating legal PDFs or Scribus that is not reading legal PDFs?

 Thanks!

   
As far as I know, Scribus will export, but not import PDF.  It will
import a Draw file, so perhaps you can import the PDF into Draw and go
that way.
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Re: [users] Scribus will not open PDF files created by OOo

2009-05-30 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:28:39 -0600
John Meyer pueblonat...@opensuse.us dijo:

 Why are you opening pdfs in Scribus?  I've always thought of PDFs as a 
 final output, not a file to be edited.

I don't know what Dotan is using the PDFs for, but I export specific
selections from OOo as PDFs to place in Scribus because I need the
formatting that OOo has and which is lacking in Scribus, e.g., tables
and fomulas. I am using 1.3.5Rc1.

Having said that, placing a PDF directly in Scribus means Scribus will
rasterize it. Vectors are much better for my work, so I import the PDF
into Inkscape first, save as SVG, and place the SVG into Scribus.
Inkscape has a terrific PDF import feature, although it does it one
page at a time.

An even faster way is to print to PS file and place the PS file
directly in Scribus. This way Scribus will preserve the vectors and I
don't have to go through Inkscape.

However, I do still go through Inkscape occasionally because sometimes
Scribus does strange things when importing a PS file - elements get
messed up. For example, a table of two columns had numbers in the left
column and firmulas in the right column. When I placed the PS file into
Scribus the numbers were half again their original size (12 points).
The PS file was fine as viewed in Ghostscript. I opened the PS file in
Inkscape, which also imported it correctly, saved as SVG, and placed
the SVG into Scribus. Scribus imported the SVG correctly. (I have filed
a bug report on the PS import issues.) And once in a while OOo will
print incorrectly to PS, but will export correctly to PDF, or I can
print to PDF with CUPS-PDF as an alternative workaround.

Among the bugs in OOo, Scribus 1.3.5 and Inkscape, which abound in all
three, sometimes I have to try several workarounds before I get things
right. But so far I have always succeeded. And I always try printing to
PS first, because that is the simplest and most direct.
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Re: [users] Scribus will not open PDF files created by OOo

2009-05-30 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:28:39 -0600
John Meyer pueblonat...@opensuse.us dijo:

 Why are you opening pdfs in Scribus?  I've always thought of PDFs as a 
 final output, not a file to be edited.

I don't know what Dotan is using the PDFs for, but I export specific
selections from OOo as PDFs to place in Scribus because I need the
formatting that OOo has and which is lacking in Scribus, e.g., tables
and fomulas. I am using 1.3.5Rc1.

Having said that, placing a PDF directly in Scribus means Scribus will
rasterize it. Vectors are much better for my work, so I import the PDF
into Inkscape first, save as SVG, and place the SVG into Scribus.
Inkscape has a terrific PDF import feature, although it does it one
page at a time.

An even faster way is to print to PS file and place the PS file
directly in Scribus. This way Scribus will preserve the vectors and I
don't have to go through Inkscape.

However, I do still go through Inkscape occasionally because sometimes
Scribus does strange things when importing a PS file - elements get
messed up. For example, a table of two columns had numbers in the left
column and firmulas in the right column. When I placed the PS file into
Scribus the numbers were half again their original size (12 points).
The PS file was fine as viewed in Ghostscript. I opened the PS file in
Inkscape, which also imported it correctly, saved as SVG, and placed
the SVG into Scribus. Scribus imported the SVG correctly. (I have filed
a bug report on the PS import issues.) And once in a while OOo will
print incorrectly to PS, but will export correctly to PDF, or I can
print to PDF with CUPS-PDF as an alternative workaround.

Among the bugs in OOo, Scribus 1.3.5 and Inkscape, which abound in all
three, sometimes I have to try several workarounds before I get things
right. But so far I have always succeeded. And I always try printing to
PS first, because that is the simplest and most direct.

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