Re: [users] draw
Original message Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 11:33:05 +0100 From: Franz Wein f.w...@f-wein.com Subject: Re: [users] draw To: users@openoffice.org Hello Dan * Why blue: in impress and although in draw you can choose the default color in the properties in OO. o Menue EXTRA - Options + select in the drop-downlist OpenOffice.org - colors + select there your default color * Drawing an object around an other object. o draw your second object so as you like. o select with the right bottom object - choose alignment in the drop-downlist and select in more/full background - in OO3 there is a option behind object o select with the right bottom object - choose location/size - + in the first tabulator in the open window there are to squares named basic-point - select there the center radio-bottom - do this for both objects! + fill in the identical position - so the both objects are centered + if it is necessary fill in the size for width and hight for your second object. Franz Dan Armstrong schrieb: If you draw a square, ect. Why is the area blue? How do you draw an eclipse around an object? When I do this I get an eclipse with a blue field blocking out the object. Thanks, Dan
Re: [users] draw
Original message Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:55:55 -0600 From: Dan Armstrong dan...@gulftel.com Subject: [users] draw To: users@openoffice.org If you draw a square, ect. Why is the area blue? How do you draw an eclipse around an object? When I do this I get an eclipse with a blue field blocking out the object. Thanks, Dan
Re: [users] draw
Original message Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 08:16:03 + From: Mike Scott m...@scottsonline.org.uk Subject: Re: [users] draw To: users@openoffice.org Cc: Dan Armstrong dan...@gulftel.com On 30/12/2010 21:55, Dan Armstrong wrote: If you draw a square, ect. Why is the area blue? It's just the default - you need to see what you're drawing! If you right-click on it once drawn, you can pick the Line or Area property and change colour. How do you draw an eclipse around an object? When I do this I get an eclipse with a blue field blocking out the object. I thought that's what eclipses did :-) :-) But again, R-click and change to transparent if that's what suits. Oh, don't forget you can change the stack order as well, and put a given object 'behind' or 'in front' of another - R-click and 'Arrange'. Don't forget F1 brings up the help system. BTW you're not subscribed to this mail list, so may miss answers. Replies to list only please (users@openoffice.org) -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] draw
Original message Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:55:55 -0600 From: Dan Armstrong dan...@gulftel.com Subject: [users] draw To: users@openoffice.org If you draw a square, ect. Why is the area blue? How do you draw an eclipse around an object? When I do this I get an eclipse with a blue field blocking out the object. Thanks, Dan
Re: [users] draw
Original message Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 08:16:03 + From: Mike Scott m...@scottsonline.org.uk Subject: Re: [users] draw To: users@openoffice.org Cc: Dan Armstrong dan...@gulftel.com On 30/12/2010 21:55, Dan Armstrong wrote: If you draw a square, ect. Why is the area blue? It's just the default - you need to see what you're drawing! If you right-click on it once drawn, you can pick the Line or Area property and change colour. How do you draw an eclipse around an object? When I do this I get an eclipse with a blue field blocking out the object. I thought that's what eclipses did :-) :-) But again, R-click and change to transparent if that's what suits. Oh, don't forget you can change the stack order as well, and put a given object 'behind' or 'in front' of another - R-click and 'Arrange'. Don't forget F1 brings up the help system. BTW you're not subscribed to this mail list, so may miss answers. Replies to list only please (users@openoffice.org) -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] draw
On 30/12/2010 21:55, Dan Armstrong wrote: If you draw a square, ect. Why is the area blue? It's just the default - you need to see what you're drawing! If you right-click on it once drawn, you can pick the Line or Area property and change colour. How do you draw an eclipse around an object? When I do this I get an eclipse with a blue field blocking out the object. I thought that's what eclipses did :-) :-) But again, R-click and change to transparent if that's what suits. Oh, don't forget you can change the stack order as well, and put a given object 'behind' or 'in front' of another - R-click and 'Arrange'. Don't forget F1 brings up the help system. BTW you're not subscribed to this mail list, so may miss answers. Replies to list only please (users@openoffice.org) -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] draw
Hello Dan * Why blue: in impress and although in draw you can choose the default color in the properties in OO. o Menue EXTRA - Options + select in the drop-downlist OpenOffice.org - colors + select there your default color * Drawing an object around an other object. o draw your second object so as you like. o select with the right bottom object - choose alignment in the drop-downlist and select in more/full background - in OO3 there is a option behind object o select with the right bottom object - choose location/size - + in the first tabulator in the open window there are to squares named basic-point - select there the center radio-bottom - do this for both objects! + fill in the identical position - so the both objects are centered + if it is necessary fill in the size for width and hight for your second object. Franz Dan Armstrong schrieb: If you draw a square, ect. Why is the area blue? How do you draw an eclipse around an object? When I do this I get an eclipse with a blue field blocking out the object. Thanks, Dan
Re: [users] Draw - save as jpg
On 16 February 2010 03:08, James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote: I tried to export as jpg and I checked automatically select file extension. I typed 'logo' and it saved logo.jpg.jpg .jpeg .jfif .jif .jpe. Can anyone confirm? No. I'm using OOo 3.1.1 on Win XP Pro and the Export as feature works as one would expect. Which version of OOo are you using and on which version of which Operating System? -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw - save as jpg
James wrote: I tried to export as jpg and I checked automatically select file extension. I typed 'logo' and it saved logo.jpg.jpg .jpeg .jfif .jif .jpe. You probably meant to save the drawing as GIF or PNG and not JPEG. The compression used by JPEG creates terrible compression artifacts in line art. Using JPEG for line drawings almost guarantees a bad quality image. Please try PNG or GIF instead. Can anyone confirm? OOo saves fine in Debian for me. What version of OOo are you using and on which version of which operating system? /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw: Resizing Diagram Text
Harold Fuchs wrote: This does not seem to make any difference. I'm not sure what the purpose is of this feature. I do not seem to be able to re-scale objects after drawing them. It's used to draw and print in different measures. That didn't sound quite clear, so I'll try with an example: Sometimes our company exhibits in fairs. We need to make a sketch of the stand to send to another company who makes the real project, plans and build the thing. We used to did it in draw using the scale option. We sketch the stand using real measures. I mean, we made in Draw a 20x20 meters square as the floor or a 2x2 meters circle as a column. We use the scale option to be able to print it in a A4 or in A3, while keeping the real measures in the drawing. Note that the person that did the sketches was mainly a salesperson, who lacks any training in architecture or computers and is horrified just looking at real programs (i.e.: AutoCad) interfaces. It's quite remarkable how fast and easy she has grasped Draw and how fast she became productive (a matter of minutes to draw the plane, she was using it to study the different furniture placements the next day). Specially as she only uses it a couple of times a year. Sometime simplicity triumphs features. Anyway, I hope that this explained the use of the scale. Javier. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw: Resizing Diagram Text
2009/12/18 Javier Rivera jav...@castroparga.com Harold Fuchs wrote: This does not seem to make any difference. I'm not sure what the purpose is of this feature. I do not seem to be able to re-scale objects after drawing them. It's used to draw and print in different measures. That didn't sound quite clear, so I'll try with an example: Sometimes our company exhibits in fairs. We need to make a sketch of the stand to send to another company who makes the real project, plans and build the thing. We used to did it in draw using the scale option. We sketch the stand using real measures. I mean, we made in Draw a 20x20 meters square as the floor or a 2x2 meters circle as a column. We use the scale option to be able to print it in a A4 or in A3, while keeping the real measures in the drawing. Note that the person that did the sketches was mainly a salesperson, who lacks any training in architecture or computers and is horrified just looking at real programs (i.e.: AutoCad) interfaces. It's quite remarkable how fast and easy she has grasped Draw and how fast she became productive (a matter of minutes to draw the plane, she was using it to study the different furniture placements the next day). Specially as she only uses it a couple of times a year. Sometime simplicity triumphs features. Anyway, I hope that this explained the use of the scale. Javier. Wonderful. Thank you. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw: Resizing Diagram Text
2009/12/16 Javier Rivera jav...@castroparga.com I'm trying to use Draw to draw a 4cm (1.6in) circle with some horizontal and vertical lines crossing it and some text within it. 4cm is too small on-screen so ... I tried drawing a 4cm circle and then zooming it 1000%. This is OK for the lines but, when I come to add the text it's *huge* and I can't get it to match the rest of the drawing. I tried drawing a 20cm circle with lines and text to match. This is fine until I come to shrink the *grouped* object. The circle and lines shrink but the text doesn't. Help. How do I do this? I'm not sure if I did understand it right, but here are two ideas: - Select the text, right-click, on the menu select Text. On the new windows uncheck all the adjust options but adjust to frame (quick home-made translation). Now you should be able to adjust the text size dragging the corners. This works perfectly, thank you. - Instead of zooming, just change the drawing scale. In Tools-Options-Draw-Generic, there is a box where you can adjust the scale. Javier. This does not seem to make any difference. I'm not sure what the purpose is of this feature. I do not seem to be able to re-scale objects after drawing them. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw: Resizing Diagram Text
Harold Fuchs wrote: 2009/12/16 Javier Rivera jav...@castroparga.com mailto:jav...@castroparga.com I'm trying to use Draw to draw a 4cm (1.6in) circle with some horizontal and vertical lines crossing it and some text within it. 4cm is too small on-screen so ... I tried drawing a 4cm circle and then zooming it 1000%. This is OK for the lines but, when I come to add the text it's *huge* and I can't get it to match the rest of the drawing. I tried drawing a 20cm circle with lines and text to match. This is fine until I come to shrink the *grouped* object. The circle and lines shrink but the text doesn't. Help. How do I do this? I'm not sure if I did understand it right, but here are two ideas: - Select the text, right-click, on the menu select Text. On the new windows uncheck all the adjust options but adjust to frame (quick home-made translation). Now you should be able to adjust the text size dragging the corners. This works perfectly, thank you. - Instead of zooming, just change the drawing scale. In Tools-Options-Draw-Generic, there is a box where you can adjust the scale. Javier. This does not seem to make any difference. I'm not sure what the purpose is of this feature. I do not seem to be able to re-scale objects after drawing them. Sorry to reply to my own post but I have discovered the purpose of the drawing scale. Seems that if I set the value to 1:1 then to print a 4cm diameter circle I create it as a 4cm circle (the object's width and height are both 4) whereas if I set the scaling to1:50 then if I want to print a 4cm circle I have to format the object as 200 x 200. Hmm. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw: Resizing Diagram Text
not the answer you were looking for, but Inksacpe might be a better tool for the job. Thanks Andy Spitfire Computer Services Suite 19 2301 Duss Ave. Ambridge, PA 15003 Phone (412) 749-0162 a...@spitcomp.com www.spitcomp.com On Dec 16, 2009, at Wednesday, December 16, 20096:03 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: I'm trying to use Draw to draw a 4cm (1.6in) circle with some horizontal and vertical lines crossing it and some text within it. 4cm is too small on-screen so ... I tried drawing a 4cm circle and then zooming it 1000%. This is OK for the lines but, when I come to add the text it's *huge* and I can't get it to match the rest of the drawing. I tried drawing a 20cm circle with lines and text to match. This is fine until I come to shrink the *grouped* object. The circle and lines shrink but the text doesn't. Help. How do I do this? -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw: Resizing Diagram Text
I'm trying to use Draw to draw a 4cm (1.6in) circle with some horizontal and vertical lines crossing it and some text within it. 4cm is too small on-screen so ... I tried drawing a 4cm circle and then zooming it 1000%. This is OK for the lines but, when I come to add the text it's *huge* and I can't get it to match the rest of the drawing. I tried drawing a 20cm circle with lines and text to match. This is fine until I come to shrink the *grouped* object. The circle and lines shrink but the text doesn't. Help. How do I do this? I'm not sure if I did understand it right, but here are two ideas: - Select the text, right-click, on the menu select Text. On the new windows uncheck all the adjust options but adjust to frame (quick home-made translation). Now you should be able to adjust the text size dragging the corners. - Instead of zooming, just change the drawing scale. In Tools-Options-Draw-Generic, there is a box where you can adjust the scale. Javier. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw tutorial?
David B Teague ha scritto: Charles Marcus wrote: On 12/9/2009, David B Teague (davidbtea...@verizon.net) wrote: Many thanks for your response. I conclude with surprise that from what you say, Draw cannot erase details, or at least it erases details with difficulty. What does one do when one makes a mistake? Undo is a blunt instrument. Draw is a VECTOR GRAPHICS program. 'Erase' is something one does with a RASTER GRAPHICS program. If I nderstand correctly (not an expert), vector graphics are essentially just visual representations of mathematical expressions. Shouting the name of a program and its type when the recipient has no knowledge of what that means is a waste of energy typing. Please spend a few words saying what this means in a way that explains why that makes deleting a symbol difficult and why that doesn't make the program useless. I understand the difference between a page layout program such as Scriptsit and a word processing program such as Writer. Unless this is something else I think I know about but do not, with the page layout the idea is to assemble the already constructed pieces in relation to each other to make a visually attractive documemnt, whereas with the word processor, the words, typeface and font, and format are of interest. Now tell me in a few words what the hell Draw DOES so I can understand why erase is so foreign to it. I'll go through the Draw tutorial carefully and see if I can find what Draw does. Meanwhile I'll take a look at the Gimp. GIMP is a RASTER GRAPHICS program. Supposedly it does (or did) have some very limited support for vector graphics, but thats not its purpose. Again, yelling the name of a program doesn't help. Please characterize, without shouting, a Raster Graphic program, and why it is so different from a vector graphics program that it allows a graphical element to be removed. And don't yell. I'm ignorant, not stupid. Besides, shouting doesn't help the stupid or the ignorant. --David Hi, I totally agree with you that yelling doesn't help anyone. But you should take that capital letters as a hint: you're in fact asking someone to do your homework. Having said that, let me answer in a few words. A bitmap is a collection of pixels (points with a colour, if you prefer). A raster graphics program like The Gimp let you modify the single pixels that compose the image. A vector image is a collection of mathematical formulas that describe lines and areas. When you see a vector image on the screen, what you're actually looking at is a /rasterized/ version of it. That is, the viewer program calculates the formulas at a certain resolution and renders them on the screen. If you zoom in or out, the formulas are re-calculated and rendered at a different resolution. That's why vector images don't degrade when zooming, like bitmap ones do. Googling for vector vs raster I found http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41 HTH -- Marcello Romani - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw tutorial?
Marcello Romani wrote: David B Teague ha scritto: Charles Marcus wrote: On 12/9/2009, David B Teague (davidbtea...@verizon.net) wrote: SNIP Draw is a VECTOR GRAPHICS program. 'Erase' is something one does with a RASTER GRAPHICS program. If I nderstand correctly (not an expert), vector graphics are essentially just visual representations of mathematical expressions. SNIP Now tell me in a few words what the hell Draw DOES so I can understand why erase is so foreign to it. SNIP And don't yell. I'm ignorant, not stupid. Besides, shouting doesn't help the stupid or the ignorant. --David Hi, I totally agree with you that yelling doesn't help anyone. But you should take that capital letters as a hint: you're in fact asking someone to do your homework. No, I'm certainly not asking for anyone to do my homework. I was asking for exactly what I asked for: A FEW words. Specifically, I was asking for the few, carefully selected words such as those you gave. Thank you for your very clear words and many thanks for the link, the target of which contains a wealth of information and a rich set of references. --David SNIPPED: the few very helpful words and link - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw tutorial?
David B Teague ha scritto: Marcello Romani wrote: David B Teague ha scritto: Charles Marcus wrote: On 12/9/2009, David B Teague (davidbtea...@verizon.net) wrote: SNIP Draw is a VECTOR GRAPHICS program. 'Erase' is something one does with a RASTER GRAPHICS program. If I nderstand correctly (not an expert), vector graphics are essentially just visual representations of mathematical expressions. SNIP Now tell me in a few words what the hell Draw DOES so I can understand why erase is so foreign to it. SNIP And don't yell. I'm ignorant, not stupid. Besides, shouting doesn't help the stupid or the ignorant. --David Hi, I totally agree with you that yelling doesn't help anyone. But you should take that capital letters as a hint: you're in fact asking someone to do your homework. No, I'm certainly not asking for anyone to do my homework. I was asking for exactly what I asked for: A FEW words. Specifically, I was asking for the few, carefully selected words such as those you gave. Thank you for your very clear words and many thanks for the link, the target of which contains a wealth of information and a rich set of references. --David SNIPPED: the few very helpful words and link - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org I'm glad my 2 (euro) cents have been helpful :-) -- Marcello Romani - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw tutorial?
On 12/10/2009 3:43 AM, Marcello Romani wrote: David B Teague ha scritto: Charles Marcus wrote: Shouting the name of a program and its type when the recipient has no knowledge of what that means is a waste of energy typing. Sometimes its a form of emphasizing something that is intended to nudge them to do a little research. That is how I meant it, sorry for the confusion. Please spend a few words saying what this means in a way that explains why that makes deleting a symbol difficult and why that doesn't make the program useless. I thought that is what my last sentence: If I understand correctly (not an expert), vector graphics are essentially just visual representations of mathematical expressions. did... Now tell me in a few words what the hell Draw DOES so I can understand why erase is so foreign to it. Draw DOES VECTOR GRAPHICS Charles ducks as David throws a brick at his head ;) - and google will do a much better job elaborating on what that means than I can do. GIMP is a RASTER GRAPHICS program. Supposedly it does (or did) have some very limited support for vector graphics, but thats not its purpose. Again, yelling the name of a program doesn't help. No one here is paid to do your homework for you. The questions you are asking are general in nature. I was trying to get you to say to yourself something like Hmmm, maybe those words are in all caps because they are important - wonder what google has to say about them?, then follow through and google them, like this: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=vector+vs+raster Please characterize, without shouting, a Raster Graphic program, and why it is so different from a vector graphics program that it allows a graphical element to be removed. And don't yell. I'm ignorant, not stupid. Besides, shouting doesn't help the stupid or the ignorant. Context is everything. In this case, the caps were NOT used to shout, they were used for EMPHASIS. Sometimes I emphasize things with caps, and sometimes I do it with 'quotes', or *asterisks*. Depends on what time of day it is, how much coffee I've had, and whether or not it is raining outside. I'm having fun today - are you? I totally agree with you that yelling doesn't help anyone. But you should take that capital letters as a hint: you're in fact asking someone to do your homework. See? Someone got it... ;) -- Best regards, Charles - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw tutorial?
David B Teague schrieb: [snip] I should have mentioned my specific application. I have an image obtained from a screen snapshot. I then save in the (painfully primitive) Paint utility. I could save in several graphics formats (but not the native Draw format). I'd save it in Draw directly, but I could not figure out how to do this. The image is of a short music exercise with finger notations for a different instrument than the one I play. I'd like to erase the existing numbers and replace them with something more appropriate to my instrument. I'll post further inquiry again once I have played with this tutorial. It occurs to me that I used to use MS Word to create such drawings, blow them up to 200% and edit pixel by pixel. I'll try that with OO.o Writer's graphics facilities. [snip] If you want to erase something out of a picture, I would strongly recommend you to use an application which was designed for this task. Use The GIMP -- free as free beer and free as in freedom. This is a very powerful application, below are some download links and links to documentation and tutorials: http://www.gimp.org/windows/ http://www.gimp.org/docs/ http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/ OpenOffice Draw's draw is more for vector graphics. If you don't want to install the gimp it is available as a portable application as well (-- then the installation is just an extraction of a compressed archive without modifications to the system). Portable applications run entirely in the memory and are slower than installed ones. Here is the link to gimp portable and a screenshot facility: http://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/gimp_portable http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/lightscreen_portable One final note: gimp is far more powerful than ms paint. Therefore it requires a little bit of training. But as you mentioned that you take a look at the documentation or the manual you will be well off. Franz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw tutorial?
Franz Many thanks for your response. I conclude with surprise that from what you say, Draw cannot erase details, or at least it erases details with difficulty. What does one do when one makes a mistake? Undo is a blunt instrument. I'll go through the Draw tutorial carefully and see if I can find what Draw does. Meanwhile I'll take a look at the Gimp. Re: FREE and software: I have been an advocate and supporter of the FSF and of free software (as in Stallmann's definition of freedom) since the early 1980s when I heard about Stallmann's EMACS, of the Free Software Manifesto, of the Free Software Foundation, and of the copy-left license. The GNU project's free OS components made Linux distributions possible. Without Stallmann and the FSF, the concept of free software would have been swallowed up by Bill Gates' and his rapacious attitudes toward business, towards software and its source code. Again, thanks to you and to all who replied with a tutorial for Draw, other useful suggestions, and alternative tools. --David Franz Waldmüller wrote: [snip] If you want to erase something out of a picture, I would strongly recommend you to use an application which was designed for this task. Use The GIMP -- free as free beer and free as in freedom. This is a very powerful application, below are some download links and links to documentation and tutorials: http://www.gimp.org/windows/ http://www.gimp.org/docs/ http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/ OpenOffice Draw's draw is more for vector graphics. If you don't want to install the gimp it is available as a portable application as well (-- then the installation is just an extraction of a compressed archive without modifications to the system). Portable applications run entirely in the memory and are slower than installed ones. Here is the link to gimp portable and a screenshot facility: http://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/gimp_portable http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/lightscreen_portable One final note: gimp is far more powerful than ms paint. Therefore it requires a little bit of training. But as you mentioned that you take a look at the documentation or the manual you will be well off. Franz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw tutorial?
On 12/9/2009, David B Teague (davidbtea...@verizon.net) wrote: Many thanks for your response. I conclude with surprise that from what you say, Draw cannot erase details, or at least it erases details with difficulty. What does one do when one makes a mistake? Undo is a blunt instrument. Draw is a VECTOR GRAPHICS program. 'Erase' is something one does with a RASTER GRAPHICS program. If I nderstand correctly (not an expert), vector graphics are essentially just visual representations of mathematical expressions. I'll go through the Draw tutorial carefully and see if I can find what Draw does. Meanwhile I'll take a look at the Gimp. GIMP is a RASTER GRAPHICS program. Supposedly it does (or did) have some very limited support for vector graphics, but thats not its purpose. -- Best regards, Charles - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw tutorial?
Charles Marcus wrote: On 12/9/2009, David B Teague (davidbtea...@verizon.net) wrote: Many thanks for your response. I conclude with surprise that from what you say, Draw cannot erase details, or at least it erases details with difficulty. What does one do when one makes a mistake? Undo is a blunt instrument. Draw is a VECTOR GRAPHICS program. 'Erase' is something one does with a RASTER GRAPHICS program. If I nderstand correctly (not an expert), vector graphics are essentially just visual representations of mathematical expressions. Shouting the name of a program and its type when the recipient has no knowledge of what that means is a waste of energy typing. Please spend a few words saying what this means in a way that explains why that makes deleting a symbol difficult and why that doesn't make the program useless. I understand the difference between a page layout program such as Scriptsit and a word processing program such as Writer. Unless this is something else I think I know about but do not, with the page layout the idea is to assemble the already constructed pieces in relation to each other to make a visually attractive documemnt, whereas with the word processor, the words, typeface and font, and format are of interest. Now tell me in a few words what the hell Draw DOES so I can understand why erase is so foreign to it. I'll go through the Draw tutorial carefully and see if I can find what Draw does. Meanwhile I'll take a look at the Gimp. GIMP is a RASTER GRAPHICS program. Supposedly it does (or did) have some very limited support for vector graphics, but thats not its purpose. Again, yelling the name of a program doesn't help. Please characterize, without shouting, a Raster Graphic program, and why it is so different from a vector graphics program that it allows a graphical element to be removed. And don't yell. I'm ignorant, not stupid. Besides, shouting doesn't help the stupid or the ignorant. --David
Re: [users] Draw tutorial?
David B Teague wrote: Is there a low level OO.o Draw tutorial available? Draw is not intuitive for me. When faced with a software package that is new to me, I usually need a small set of instructions that make the tool useful, then I can read the Help and other tutorials to find things as needed to extend my knowledge. Getting that first set of instructions isn't easy for me. Did you take a look here? http://support.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw tutorial?
James, Many thanks. I looked around the OO.o web site but did not see this. This may well get me started enough to do what I need to do. I should have mentioned my specific application. I have an image obtained from a screen snapshot. I then save in the (painfully primitive) Paint utility. I could save in several graphics formats (but not the native Draw format). I'd save it in Draw directly, but I could not figure out how to do this. The image is of a short music exercise with finger notations for a different instrument than the one I play. I'd like to erase the existing numbers and replace them with something more appropriate to my instrument. I'll post further inquiry again once I have played with this tutorial. It occurs to me that I used to use MS Word to create such drawings, blow them up to 200% and edit pixel by pixel. I'll try that with OO.o Writer's graphics facilities. --David --- James Knott wrote: David B Teague wrote: Is there a low level OO.o Draw tutorial available? Draw is not intuitive for me. When faced with a software package that is new to me, I usually need a small set of instructions that make the tool useful, then I can read the Help and other tutorials to find things as needed to extend my knowledge. Getting that first set of instructions isn't easy for me. Did you take a look here? http://support.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw tutorial?
David B Teague ha scritto: James, Many thanks. I looked around the OO.o web site but did not see this. This may well get me started enough to do what I need to do. I should have mentioned my specific application. I have an image obtained from a screen snapshot. I then save in the (painfully primitive) Paint utility. I could save in several graphics formats (but not the native Draw format). I'd save it in Draw directly, but I could not figure out how to do this. Print Screen Open new draw document CTRL-V Otherwise you can just import the saved image into the document. OOo Draw will eat almost anything you'll throw at it. The image is of a short music exercise with finger notations for a different instrument than the one I play. I'd like to erase the existing numbers and replace them with something more appropriate to my instrument. I'll post further inquiry again once I have played with this tutorial. It occurs to me that I used to use MS Word to create such drawings, blow them up to 200% and edit pixel by pixel. I'll try that with OO.o Writer's graphics facilities. MSPaint is certainly more suited for the task than MSWord. Please, please use Paint instead of Word to do pixel editing! :-) I don't know if Draw can be used to do such tricks. You can however import the image or paste the screenshot into it and put some graphics elements and text to alter the appearance of the image. You can then export the whole thing in PDF format. HTH --David --- James Knott wrote: David B Teague wrote: Is there a low level OO.o Draw tutorial available? Draw is not intuitive for me. When faced with a software package that is new to me, I usually need a small set of instructions that make the tool useful, then I can read the Help and other tutorials to find things as needed to extend my knowledge. Getting that first set of instructions isn't easy for me. Did you take a look here? http://support.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw and Text Boxes.?
Thanks to all of you who replied to this thread. all of your answers were useful in one way or another and those that I did not use, did in fact point me to other aspects of OOo (styles, for example) which were useful for me to learn or brush up on. Once again - many thanks, James - Original Message - From: James Elliott james.elli...@wn.com.au To: Users at OOo users@openoffice.org Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:45 PM Subject: [users] Draw and Text Boxes.? A question on Text Boxes ... I note, as I am sure all of you have, that if you draw a text box by clicking on the icon and dragging the mouse around you page, once the text exists in your document or slide, it will disappear, never to be recovered, if you go away from it without first typing something into it ... i.e it seems that empty text boxes cannot exist in OOo? Usually it is not a problem: create the box; and type or insert the contents into it before going off to do something else. However, it is driving me nuts in Draw. I like using Draw to format my newsletters because I can create columns easily using text boxes, and Draw suits me extremely well in other ways, like inserting, resizing, and cropping photos, for example - brilliant! - who needs Photoshop or Gimp - LOL. I have a 2-Column page Template, among others ... i.e. two columns (or Text boxes) on a blank page. to keep the Text Boxes from disappearing, before saving the page as a Template, I originally typed in some placeholder text. this works well until, enthused with my writing, I get to the bottom of column-1, half way through typing a sentence, move up to the top of the next column, delete the placeholder text, and go to type the rest of the sentence, and ... oops! ... the whole text box has disappeared, gone, along with all my carefully selected margins ... poof! - gone! Do any of you clever people with infinitely more knowledge than I, have any suggestions? Many thanks, James. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw and Text Boxes.?
2009/10/23 James Elliott james.elli...@wn.com.au A question on Text Boxes ... I note, as I am sure all of you have, that if you draw a text box by clicking on the icon and dragging the mouse around you page, once the text exists in your document or slide, it will disappear, never to be recovered, if you go away from it without first typing something into it ... i.e it seems that empty text boxes cannot exist in OOo? Usually it is not a problem: create the box; and type or insert the contents into it before going off to do something else. However, it is driving me nuts in Draw. I like using Draw to format my newsletters because I can create columns easily using text boxes, and Draw suits me extremely well in other ways, like inserting, resizing, and cropping photos, for example - brilliant! - who needs Photoshop or Gimp - LOL. I have a 2-Column page Template, among others ... i.e. two columns (or Text boxes) on a blank page. to keep the Text Boxes from disappearing, before saving the page as a Template, I originally typed in some placeholder text. this works well until, enthused with my writing, I get to the bottom of column-1, half way through typing a sentence, move up to the top of the next column, delete the placeholder text, and go to type the rest of the sentence, and ... oops! ... the whole text box has disappeared, gone, along with all my carefully selected margins ... poof! - gone! Do any of you clever people with infinitely more knowledge than I, have any suggestions? Many thanks, James. When you create the text box, put a line (border) around it: 1. create the text box by dragging to approximately the right size and position 2. click on the hatched border of the box to bring up its green handles 3. right click to bring up the context menu 4. select Line 5. on the Line tab select a Line Style *other than* invisible 6. click OK Note that this procedure works in Draw. In Writer you have to enter at least a single space between steps 1 and 2, otherwise the box disappears when you try to click its hatched border. Bug I think so. You can now safely leave the (empty) box, move it, resize it and so on. It will remain visible. When, eventually, you are happy with the size, position and contents of your text box you may change the Line Style back to invisible. If you want to save the document, make sure the text box is visible. Only make it invisible just prior to printing. Or even make the line a feature of your news letter by playing with its Style, Colour, Width (thickness) and Transparency. If the line is thick enough you can also set a Corner Style so that the corners of your text box are, say, rounded instead of sharp. Also play with the Line Styles I use Frames in Writer documents for this sort of thing because you can make the text flow *automatically* from one frame to another which is not necessarily adjacent. You do this by defining Next Frame and Previous Frame as appropriate (each frame is named and referred to by its name). So, for instance, I have a template which defines a landscape page with 2 rows of 4 portrait frames, all the same size. The text flow goes row 1, column 1 R2, C1 R1, C2 R2, C2 etc. but it could just as easily have been different. As one frame gets full the text automatically jumps to the next frame; if you delete text from one frame, subsequent text will flow backwards so that the very last frame gets emptier. Again, the frames can have interesting borders. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw and Text Boxes.?
Hello James, This does not solve your problem of text boxes but I recently discovered the usefullness of using Sections in setting out pages in writer for newsletters and other things. The advantage of sections over columns is that the columns apply to the whole page whereas a section can be inserted anywhere within the document, have as many columns within it as you want, and then distributes whatever is put into the section equally into the columns. Writer also allows inserting, resizing and cropping of photographs. I have not had much experience with text boxes as I use a Calc Spreadsheets for a lot of things that require setting out etc using the merge cells feature. Sections may be a help to some others. meld...@gmail.com On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:45 PM, James Elliott james.elli...@wn.com.auwrote: A question on Text Boxes ... I note, as I am sure all of you have, that if you draw a text box by clicking on the icon and dragging the mouse around you page, once the text exists in your document or slide, it will disappear, never to be recovered, if you go away from it without first typing something into it ... i.e it seems that empty text boxes cannot exist in OOo? Usually it is not a problem: create the box; and type or insert the contents into it before going off to do something else. However, it is driving me nuts in Draw. I like using Draw to format my newsletters because I can create columns easily using text boxes, and Draw suits me extremely well in other ways, like inserting, resizing, and cropping photos, for example - brilliant! - who needs Photoshop or Gimp - LOL. I have a 2-Column page Template, among others ... i.e. two columns (or Text boxes) on a blank page. to keep the Text Boxes from disappearing, before saving the page as a Template, I originally typed in some placeholder text. this works well until, enthused with my writing, I get to the bottom of column-1, half way through typing a sentence, move up to the top of the next column, delete the placeholder text, and go to type the rest of the sentence, and ... oops! ... the whole text box has disappeared, gone, along with all my carefully selected margins ... poof! - gone! Do any of you clever people with infinitely more knowledge than I, have any suggestions? Many thanks, James. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw crahses OOo.?
2009/9/28 James Elliott james.elli...@wn.com.au I am using OOo 3 running under Windows XP and having challenges using Draw. I am inserting, cropping and repositioning jpeg photos in Draw and 1. it has become very slow; 2. OOo frequently crashes and has to Recover my document Has anyone else had similar experiences? ... or any advice? Kind regards, James Sounds to me like you (well, your computer actually) are running out of memory. How much main memory do you have, how much swap space and how big are the pictures? I have a feeling that when you crop a picture you will end up with both versions so that Draw can undo the change. If you crop several times you'll end up with multiple copies. If you crop several pictures several times you'll end up with multiple copies of all of them. You could try reducing the number of undo steps available. This is at ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgMemory. The first element on that pane lets you change the number. Of course, now you'll need to be a lot more careful as you won't be able to undo mistakes to the same extent. Alternatively, decide in advance how big each picture should be and use an image cropper (Paint? Gimp? Draw?) to save each one separately before starting on your document. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw crahses OOo.?
Thanks Harold - I iwll look into that possibility, and try reducing the number of undos James - Original Message - From: Harold Fuchs hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [users] Draw crahses OOo.? 2009/9/28 James Elliott james.elli...@wn.com.au I am using OOo 3 running under Windows XP and having challenges using Draw. I am inserting, cropping and repositioning jpeg photos in Draw and 1. it has become very slow; 2. OOo frequently crashes and has to Recover my document Has anyone else had similar experiences? ... or any advice? Kind regards, James Sounds to me like you (well, your computer actually) are running out of memory. How much main memory do you have, how much swap space and how big are the pictures? I have a feeling that when you crop a picture you will end up with both versions so that Draw can undo the change. If you crop several times you'll end up with multiple copies. If you crop several pictures several times you'll end up with multiple copies of all of them. You could try reducing the number of undo steps available. This is at ToolsOptionsOpenOffice.orgMemory. The first element on that pane lets you change the number. Of course, now you'll need to be a lot more careful as you won't be able to undo mistakes to the same extent. Alternatively, decide in advance how big each picture should be and use an image cropper (Paint? Gimp? Draw?) to save each one separately before starting on your document. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2400 - Release Date: 09/28/09 05:51:00 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw Module
Thank you both for the pointers. Harold, I did what you said: Clicked in big box in upper left, clicked in the layout, held down left button while getting(drawing) a small box (dashed lines), and released the button. ??? Small dashed line box disappered??? Any ideas?? Mac - Original Message - From: Harold Fuchs hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [users] Draw Module Mac McClain wrote: Hi folks. I have never used the Draw module. So I wanted to draw about 3 boxes. Man, I can't get off the ground. I looked at the help, but it apparently assumes you have some basic knowkedge to start with (which I don't). I thought if I clicked on a box down on the bottom and then clicked in the layout I would get a box. I don't. So, I am totally lost. Anyone want to give me a quick basic run through (or a pointer to a place other that OOo help)? Mac Click the Box icon. Then, in the drawing area press and *hold* the left mouse button while you drag the box to the right size. Once you release the left mouse button the box will stay put and will have green handles. You can move the box by dragging it or resize it by dragging one of those handles. Right click inside the box to change its properties - fill colour, border style, etc. etc. A good place to start reading might be http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual Click the Drawings ... link. There are also many tutorials, as others have pointed out. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw Module
2009/8/15 Mac McClain bmcclain...@centurytel.net Thank you both for the pointers. Harold, I did what you said: Clicked in big box in upper left, clicked in the layout, held down left button while getting(drawing) a small box (dashed lines), and released the button. ??? Small dashed line box disappered??? Any ideas?? Yes. Don't *click* in the drawing area (layout) after clicking the box icon. That click makes OOo think you've changed your mind about drawing a box and that you want to do something else instead. So, after clicking the box icon, move the mouse into the drawing area and *immediately* hold down the left button. Now you can start dragging the box to the size you want. The position of the cursor when you first depress the mouse button determines one of the 4 corners of the box. Which corner depends on the direction in which you now drag the cursor. snip -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw Module
Mac McClain wrote: Hi folks. I have never used the Draw module. So I wanted to draw about 3 boxes. Man, I can't get off the ground. I looked at the help, but it apparently assumes you have some basic knowkedge to start with (which I don't). I thought if I clicked on a box down on the bottom and then clicked in the layout I would get a box. I don't. So, I am totally lost. Anyone want to give me a quick basic run through (or a pointer to a place other that OOo help)? Mac A google search for 00.0 draw tutorial yields 47,800 pages. I have only listed the first three. They should get you started. # OpenOffice templates, tutorials, tips and FAQ Tutorials for OOo Draw · OpenOffice.org 2 user guides. Templates for Draw. A collection of templates for OOo. Writer from OOoExtras.org ... www.kaaredyret.dk/openoffice_links.html - Similar - Filter - History # Tutorials For OpenOffice: DRAW (drawing) Category Apr 30, 2008 ... This is an index page of Draw tutorials for OpenOffice. www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/category.../drawing.html - Cached - Similar - Filter - History # Tutorials For OpenOffice - Free help for anyone using or teaching ... Please click HERE for information about our tutorials. ... Draw This is the drawing feature in OpenOffice (similar to MS Draw); Base This is OpenOffice ... www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/ - Cached - Similar - Filter - History -- Gene Y. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw Module
Mac McClain wrote: Hi folks. I have never used the Draw module. So I wanted to draw about 3 boxes. Man, I can't get off the ground. I looked at the help, but it apparently assumes you have some basic knowkedge to start with (which I don't). I thought if I clicked on a box down on the bottom and then clicked in the layout I would get a box. I don't. So, I am totally lost. Anyone want to give me a quick basic run through (or a pointer to a place other that OOo help)? Mac Click the Box icon. Then, in the drawing area press and *hold* the left mouse button while you drag the box to the right size. Once you release the left mouse button the box will stay put and will have green handles. You can move the box by dragging it or resize it by dragging one of those handles. Right click inside the box to change its properties - fill colour, border style, etc. etc. A good place to start reading might be http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual Click the Drawings ... link. There are also many tutorials, as others have pointed out. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw: perfectly straight line
Julio Sotolongo wrote: Is there a way to create a perfectly straight line in Draw. This is for a friend that I am trying to interest in OOo. I tried unsuccessfully to accomplish it and then searched the documentation for help. Following the directions in the Draw Guide for drawing a straight line yielded the same results I achieved on my own. A line composed of segments of straight lines, but not continuously straight from end to end. According to my friend, this is possible MSO. It seems like it should be simple to accomplish. Any help would be appreciated. Have you tried the Lines and Arrows button? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw: perfectly straight line
Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it, but still the result is segments of straight lines, not continuously straight from end to end. James Knott wrote: Julio Sotolongo wrote: Is there a way to create a perfectly straight line in Draw. This is for a friend that I am trying to interest in OOo. I tried unsuccessfully to accomplish it and then searched the documentation for help. Following the directions in the Draw Guide for drawing a straight line yielded the same results I achieved on my own. A line composed of segments of straight lines, but not continuously straight from end to end. According to my friend, this is possible MSO. It seems like it should be simple to accomplish. Any help would be appreciated. Have you tried the Lines and Arrows button? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1854 - Release Date: 12/17/2008 7:21 PM
Re: [users] Draw: perfectly straight line
Julio Sotolongo wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it, but still the result is segments of straight lines, not continuously straight from end to end. It's physically impossible to draw a perfectly straight line on a computer monitor, as the display is composed of discrete units called pixels. Is that what you're referring to? I see those lines too, but I have to look very closely to see them. If that's what you're talking about, then I doubt MS Office could do much better. BTW, what component of MS Office does your friend use, considering there's nothing comparable to Draw in it? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw: perfectly straight line
At 20:36 17/12/2008 -0500, Julio Sotolongo wrote: Is there a way to create a perfectly straight line in Draw. This is for a friend that I am trying to interest in OOo. I tried unsuccessfully to accomplish it and then searched the documentation for help. Following the directions in the Draw Guide for drawing a straight line yielded the same results I achieved on my own. A line composed of segments of straight lines, but not continuously straight from end to end. According to my friend, this is possible MSO. It seems like it should be simple to accomplish. Any help would be appreciated. You may be confusing two things here. Like most office products, OpenOffice Draw is geared towards creating printed output. And if you print your document or export it to PDF, you may well find that your line is sufficiently straight. But compared with most printers, your computer's screen has a comparatively coarse resolution, of course. And it is impossible within the limitations of the screen pixels to create an exactly straight line display. So the screen image within Draw shows a poor imitation, but you may find the final printed or exported result satisfactory. You can also get an idea of what is happening here if you change the zoom factor at View | Zoom... . Your line will still be imperfect, but will be different in detail from before. This demonstrates that it is the display of your line, rather than the line itself, which is the limitation. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw: perfectly straight line
Thank you Brian and James. I tried printing my line and it was indeed straight. I knew it was simple. Unfortunately my friend purchased a copy of MSO before finding a solution. I will email him your input anyway. I told him it was possible to have both on his computer at the same time. As to what part of MSO he was using I will have to ask him. After he told me I wondered myself. 20:36 17/12/2008 -0500, Julio Sotolongo wrote: Is there a way to create a perfectly straight line in Draw. This is for a friend that I am trying to interest in OOo. I tried unsuccessfully to accomplish it and then searched the documentation for help. Following the directions in the Draw Guide for drawing a straight line yielded the same results I achieved on my own. A line composed of segments of straight lines, but not continuously straight from end to end. According to my friend, this is possible MSO. It seems like it should be simple to accomplish. Any help would be appreciated. You may be confusing two things here. Like most office products, OpenOffice Draw is geared towards creating printed output. And if you print your document or export it to PDF, you may well find that your line is sufficiently straight. But compared with most printers, your computer's screen has a comparatively coarse resolution, of course. And it is impossible within the limitations of the screen pixels to create an exactly straight line display. So the screen image within Draw shows a poor imitation, but you may find the final printed or exported result satisfactory. You can also get an idea of what is happening here if you change the zoom factor at View | Zoom... . Your line will still be imperfect, but will be different in detail from before. This demonstrates that it is the display of your line, rather than the line itself, which is the limitation. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1854 - Release Date: 12/17/2008 7:21 PM
Re: [users] Draw: perfectly straight line
Julio Sotolongo wrote: Thank you Brian and James. I tried printing my line and it was indeed straight. I knew it was simple. Unfortunately my friend purchased a copy of MSO before finding a solution. I will email him your input anyway. I told him it was possible to have both on his computer at the same time. Since he's installing MS Office, he may be interested in the Sun ODF plugin, which adds ODF support to MS Office. Sun ODF Plugin: http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw configuration
Hi Allen, Allen wrote (7-5-2008 0:58) I'm having a problem finding where to set the default Base point in Draw. If one right clicks on an object and selects Position and Size in the upper right is an object labeled Base point. The default is the radio button in the upper left corner. I'm doing a series of interlocking circles and I would like the default to be the center one. Where and how does one set this? I prefer this for positioning so how does one make it permanent? I see no option for this, though in Tools|Options|OOoDraw|View there is some room left (contrary to the situation form some other OOo-modules ;-) ) Maybe there's a hack possible in one of the xml-files (you could ask on [EMAIL PROTECTED]), and if not, an rfe in IssueTracker would be you only change (though a little, since obviously quite some more problematic issues wait already a long time ...) Regards, Cor -- The Year of 3 -2008- Het jaar van 3 Cor Nouws Arnhem - Netherlands - nl.OpenOffice.org - marketing contact - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw - flow chart connectors
On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 09:15 -0700, Craig White wrote: I'm using the Draw program to make a rather complicated flow chart and I need to draw some connectors with multiple 90 degree turns (not just the default 2 turns). Is there someway I can add new points into the path to make a more complicated path? one more try at this question... Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw - flow chart connectors
On 29/04/2008 19:42, Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 09:15 -0700, Craig White wrote: I'm using the Draw program to make a rather complicated flow chart and I need to draw some connectors with multiple 90 degree turns (not just the default 2 turns). Is there someway I can add new points into the path to make a more complicated path? one more try at this question... Craig Don't know how to do what you want but back in the late sixties the man who taught me to how to draw flowcharts taught me that if the lines crossed then the logic was wrong. 40 years later, after earning a good living designing and building software, I haven't found a counter example ;-) -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw - flow chart connectors
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 20:10 +0100, Harold Fuchs wrote: On 29/04/2008 19:42, Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 09:15 -0700, Craig White wrote: I'm using the Draw program to make a rather complicated flow chart and I need to draw some connectors with multiple 90 degree turns (not just the default 2 turns). Is there someway I can add new points into the path to make a more complicated path? one more try at this question... Craig Don't know how to do what you want but back in the late sixties the man who taught me to how to draw flowcharts taught me that if the lines crossed then the logic was wrong. 40 years later, after earning a good living designing and building software, I haven't found a counter example ;-) Thanks Harold...this isn't really a philosophical question or problem though...my problem is one supervisor with a lot of underlings that requires that I draw connectors to a lot of boxes where the navigation to fit this all on one sheet requires several turns (but no lines crossing). Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw - flow chart connectors
Harold Fuchs wrote: On 29/04/2008 19:42, Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 09:15 -0700, Craig White wrote: I'm using the Draw program to make a rather complicated flow chart and I need to draw some connectors with multiple 90 degree turns (not just the default 2 turns). Is there someway I can add new points into the path to make a more complicated path? one more try at this question... Craig Don't know how to do what you want but back in the late sixties the man who taught me to how to draw flowcharts taught me that if the lines crossed then the logic was wrong. 40 years later, after earning a good living designing and building software, I haven't found a counter example ;-) Try this. Use a line instead of a connector. Anchor it to the starting shape and to the ending shape. Open the Edit Points toolbar ViewToolBarsEdie Ponts. With the line selected click on the Edit Points tool button. ( you can also select this with a context menu ) Then use insert points tool button to, well add points to the line. You can now move those points around to form your path..takes a little playing around, but you should get it. HTH Drew -- OpenOffice.org User Community Forum: http://user.services.openoffice.org United States PostgreSQL Association: http://www.postgresql.us/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw - flow chart connectors
On 29/04/2008 20:25, Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 20:10 +0100, Harold Fuchs wrote: On 29/04/2008 19:42, Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 09:15 -0700, Craig White wrote: I'm using the Draw program to make a rather complicated flow chart and I need to draw some connectors with multiple 90 degree turns (not just the default 2 turns). Is there someway I can add new points into the path to make a more complicated path? one more try at this question... Craig Don't know how to do what you want but back in the late sixties the man who taught me to how to draw flowcharts taught me that if the lines crossed then the logic was wrong. 40 years later, after earning a good living designing and building software, I haven't found a counter example ;-) Thanks Harold...this isn't really a philosophical question or problem though...my problem is one supervisor with a lot of underlings that requires that I draw connectors to a lot of boxes where the navigation to fit this all on one sheet requires several turns (but no lines crossing). Craig I found a kludge (another philosophical concept) that might be OK for you: draw intermediate boxes at the places where you want additional changes of direction; link the supervisor to the underling via the intermediate boxes using a connector for each link; set the size of the intermediate boxes to 0.01 x 0.01 cm. The boxes disappear and the connectors adjust themselves to give as complex a set of 90 degree turns as you like. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Draw
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Re: [users] Draw
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Re: [users] Draw
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Re: [users] Draw
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Re: [users] Draw
Christina Godinez wrote: Sorry I made a mistake on the Subject: Math Christina Godinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a manual I can download on how to use the Math in Open Office? - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. One of many sources: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Formula I will look for other sources and post to this list again when I find them. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw vs MS-Visio
Hi, can you open and edit MS-Visio diagrams with OpenOffice Draw? No - the .vsd file format is propriatery to MS and there is no OpenOffice filter at present. /paul -- Processing Key for cracking HD DVD's: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 - Try Torpark; a small portable, open-source, built on Firefox browser that enables anonymous browsing. Requires no installation : http://www.torrify.com/
Re: [users] Draw 2.3: Export to SVG - bug?
2007/12/1, Cor Nouws [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Cor Nouws wrote (1-12-2007 21:04) Johnny Rosenberg wrote (1-12-2007 20:32) [...] * Export it to SVG. Does it look right? Mine didn't. Take a look at my attachments. Is this the result you got? If not, I guess something is wrong in my system... I also successfully exported the same file to PNG, so it seems like there is something wrong with the SVG export thing. I can't confirm the behaviour, Johnny: whem I export to PNG (2.3.1 dev) the PNG looks OK. Apologies. Export to *svg* indeed is wrong. So I confirm your problem, Johnny, OK, I will report it then, unless somebody else already did. J.R. Cor -- Cor Nouws Arnhem - Netherlands nl.OpenOffice.org - marketing contact
Re: [users] Draw 2.3: Export to SVG - bug?
2007/12/2, Johnny Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/12/1, Cor Nouws [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Cor Nouws wrote (1-12-2007 21:04) Johnny Rosenberg wrote (1-12-2007 20:32) [...] * Export it to SVG. Does it look right? Mine didn't. Take a look at my attachments. Is this the result you got? If not, I guess something is wrong in my system... I also successfully exported the same file to PNG, so it seems like there is something wrong with the SVG export thing. I can't confirm the behaviour, Johnny: whem I export to PNG ( 2.3.1dev) the PNG looks OK. Apologies. Export to *svg* indeed is wrong. So I confirm your problem, Johnny, OK, I will report it then, unless somebody else already did. J.R . Just reported it. Vote for it herehttp://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=84164if you like. J.R. Cor -- Cor Nouws Arnhem - Netherlands nl.OpenOffice.org - marketing contact
Re: [users] Draw 2.3: Export to SVG - bug?
Johnny Rosenberg wrote (1-12-2007 20:32) [...] * Export it to SVG. Does it look right? Mine didn't. Take a look at my attachments. Is this the result you got? If not, I guess something is wrong in my system... I also successfully exported the same file to PNG, so it seems like there is something wrong with the SVG export thing. I can't confirm the behaviour, Johnny: whem I export to PNG (2.3.1 dev) the PNG looks OK. Regards, Cor -- Cor Nouws Arnhem - Netherlands nl.OpenOffice.org - marketing contact - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw 2.3: Export to SVG - bug?
Cor Nouws wrote (1-12-2007 21:04) Johnny Rosenberg wrote (1-12-2007 20:32) [...] * Export it to SVG. Does it look right? Mine didn't. Take a look at my attachments. Is this the result you got? If not, I guess something is wrong in my system... I also successfully exported the same file to PNG, so it seems like there is something wrong with the SVG export thing. I can't confirm the behaviour, Johnny: whem I export to PNG (2.3.1 dev) the PNG looks OK. Apologies. Export to *svg* indeed is wrong. So I confirm your problem, Johnny, Cor -- Cor Nouws Arnhem - Netherlands nl.OpenOffice.org - marketing contact - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] draw
Hi, As the name suggests Draw is a drawing program and not a painting one. OpenOffice can create PDF files from any file it can open, but it is not a PDF reader. If you want a paint program I would suggest the Gimp. www.gimp.org Hope this helps On 23 Aug 2007, at 20:29, roy gordon wrote: hello, i got this 1.1 openoffice cd from my library. i was expecting to have the featres of windows paint from the draw program as the name implies (hoping to edit jpg and gif) but although i have similar features from the draw program and lots of little nik naks, i dont actually have freehand draw in colours. is this correct? is there a free sun program to suit this task? is this program a pdf reader? there is a sort of line draw in this program but it is not a static freehand draw no erasers or spray tin etc. the line sort of snaps to shape rather than how you shape it. probably an intentional office presentation tool. would be glad to know. all the best thank you roy gordon _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en- USform=QBRE - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw File Format to other Format
On Tuesday June 05 2007 2:04 pm, Ross Bernheim wrote: Hello, I have been using OOo for several years now on Mac, Linux, and Wndows XP. Great program and I have converted several others to it. My problem is I need to do some drawings, basic boxes and some lines and text. Draw works a treat. Some features that make it very quick and easy for my use. But the file formats that it saves the drawings to do not have any listed that I can work with to convert to a format that I can send to the users of MS Word to embed in their documents. Am I missing something or is there a way to do it? I just tried copy and paste into a Write document and saving as a doc file. When opened in MS Word the graphic was munged. Ross Bernheim Here is a hint. Do NOT save your drawing in this case, export them. You can export them in many different bitmap formats including .png and .jpg. You can save them for your own purposes, but exporting them for others is a better idea. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw File Format to other Format
On Jun 5, 2007, at 13:10, Dan Lewis wrote: On Tuesday June 05 2007 2:04 pm, Ross Bernheim wrote: Hello, I have been using OOo for several years now on Mac, Linux, and Wndows XP. Great program and I have converted several others to it. My problem is I need to do some drawings, basic boxes and some lines and text. Draw works a treat. Some features that make it very quick and easy for my use. But the file formats that it saves the drawings to do not have any listed that I can work with to convert to a format that I can send to the users of MS Word to embed in their documents. Am I missing something or is there a way to do it? I just tried copy and paste into a Write document and saving as a doc file. When opened in MS Word the graphic was munged. Ross Bernheim Here is a hint. Do NOT save your drawing in this case, export them. You can export them in many different bitmap formats including .png and .jpg. You can save them for your own purposes, but exporting them for others is a better idea. Dan Dan, That does indeed work. The user guide mentioned nothing about file formats in the table of contents or index. I am used to using Save As with Writer to save to doc format for those unenlightened people who are still addicted to Bill's Coolaide. So it was natural that I would look to the Save As rather than Export. Thanks, Ross - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw: changing size of pasted objects
On 3/29/07, Peter Hillier-Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michele Zarri wrote: Hello, I have used Draw to add some comments to a picture. I placed the picture on one layer and the comments on a different layer. To control the size of the resulting picture then, I copied all the layers and pasted them into GIMP. The problem is that the resulting image is (about) 20% wider in GIMP. For example, if the image in Draw is 1000x1000 pixels, when I paste it in GIMP it becomes 1200x1200. Is there any way to avoid this undesired enlargement? Michele, It doesn't answer you directly, but I have found it easier to create text components in Writer and then add them in the GIMP via Paste Into. See the attached file. Regards Peter HB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Peter, I am not sure it will help me. Let me be a bit more explicit with an example. I want to draw some lines and text boxes on a screenshot from googleEarth and I want to upload a jpeg of less than 200k and of a given size on a web forum. This is what I do 1. capture the screenshot, remove the interface bits and paste the resulting image into a layer of Draw. 2. on a different layer of Draw I create my lines, callouts, etc... 3. copy all and paste into GIMP to perform the corrections (size and quality) and generate the final jpeg file. Point 3 is where I experience the problem since the resulting picture is as I said 20% or so wider than the original screenshot. As good as GIMP is in rescaling still the quality is badly deteriorated and I really cannot understand why the size is modified during the copy paste process. BTW... I was somewhat familiar with the picture you sent me since I created it last year for the Impress guide :-) Cheers, Michele - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw: changing size of pasted objects
Michele Zarri wrote: [cut] I am not sure it will help me. Let me be a bit more explicit with an example. I want to draw some lines and text boxes on a screenshot from googleEarth and I want to upload a jpeg of less than 200k and of a given size on a web forum. This is what I do 1. capture the screenshot, remove the interface bits and paste the resulting image into a layer of Draw. 2. on a different layer of Draw I create my lines, callouts, etc... 3. copy all and paste into GIMP to perform the corrections (size and quality) and generate the final jpeg file. I can see why you might use Draw for this but, given your problems, maybe other tools would be more useful? Would I be correct in thinking that you immediately convert the source image into a lossless file format (png) and work in this format until the final export? Point 3 is where I experience the problem since the resulting picture is as I said 20% or so wider than the original screenshot. As good as GIMP is in rescaling still the quality is badly deteriorated and I really cannot understand why the size is modified during the copy paste process. Neither can I. Obviously the GIMP is not adding pixels, so Draw must be re-sampling during the export, which is very odd behaviour. Is the image visibly deteriorating from screen in Draw to the output of the exported file? BTW... I was somewhat familiar with the picture you sent me since I created it last year for the Impress guide :-) I thought you might be! I'm reviewing the Impress Guide presently and re-working all the screenshots. :-) Peter HB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw: changing size of pasted objects
On 3/29/07, Peter Hillier-Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I can see why you might use Draw for this but, given your problems, maybe other tools would be more useful? Would I be correct in thinking that you immediately convert the source image into a lossless file format (png) and work in this format until the final export? I would be glad to try other tools although I have all my nice graphic styles lined up in Draw and would like to continue using it. Re the second part of the paragraph, I am not quite sure... I just press print screen and then paste from the clipboard. I assume the image is a bitmap but I never checked... [Snip] I really cannot understand why the size is modified during the copy paste process. Neither can I. Obviously the GIMP is not adding pixels, so Draw must be re-sampling during the export, which is very odd behaviour. Is the image visibly deteriorating from screen in Draw to the output of the exported file? Yes the image is deteriorated. Very interestingly though, if I do not add additional elements (i.e. copying from screen to draw, then draw to GIMP) there is no resizing. Resizing only occurs if I add elements on top of the screenshot. Unfortunately I haven't got GIMP at present (I am at work) but tonight I will experiment a bit more. [snip] I thought you might be! I'm reviewing the Impress Guide presently and re-working all the screenshots. :-) ... and you are doing a fine job indeed. Just make sure the icons are 24x24pixels or 36x24 pixels for the tools with the little black triangle ;-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw: changing size of pasted objects
Michele Zarri wrote: [cut] Re the second part of the paragraph, I am not quite sure... I just press print screen and then paste from the clipboard. I assume the image is a bitmap but I never checked... Sorry. I thought you were downloading an image. Obviously PrintScreen and Paste will produce a bitmap in your graphics program. [Snip] I really cannot understand why the size is modified during the copy paste process. Neither can I. Obviously the GIMP is not adding pixels, so Draw must be re-sampling during the export, which is very odd behaviour. Is the image visibly deteriorating from screen in Draw to the output of the exported file? Yes the image is deteriorated. Very interestingly though, if I do not add additional elements (i.e. copying from screen to draw, then draw to GIMP) there is no resizing. Resizing only occurs if I add elements on top of the screenshot. I think I understand now. When I want to add text to an image I create a new empty image, with a size large enough for the original image, some lateral white space and the text element. That way I can copy and paste each element in their own layer in turn, without the original sizes being affected. Finally I merge (flatten) all layers into the final image. Could your problem being that you paste elements on top of an originally sized image and Draw tries to accommodate this by re-sizing everything? [cut] all the screenshots. :-) ... and you are doing a fine job indeed. Just make sure the icons are 24x24pixels or 36x24 pixels for the tools with the little black triangle ;-) I'll have to think about that. Presently they are just cut from a PrintScreen image, but adding a little background to the canvas will be easy enough. Just for interest, why is this important? Regards Peter HB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw/API programming
On Friday 02 February 2007, + Josh Larrabee wrote: [ MODERATED ] I'm exploring using OpenOffice, specifically Draw, as a user interface for some clients to visualize data from an online database application. I'm wondering if anyone could answer a couple questions for me regarding the Draw application...specifically: 1) Does the Draw application support access via the OpenOffice API? Specifically, I have a developer the programs in VB, and I want to know if they will be able to program in VB against the API and manipulate the objects in Draw. 2) Assuming #1 is possible, does it seem plausible that we could use Draw as a server application to create images dynamically and return those images to a web application for display in a web page? Maybe using the Flash functionality? Any thoughts/help with this would be much appreciated. Thanks. As you are not subscribed you may not have seen that: On Saturday 10 February 2007, Andy Lewis wrote: You can certainly use the API to create and manipulate Draw documents. See some of the macros at www.ooomacros.org , especially Danny's Draw Power Tools and Danny's Stupid OOo Tricks (far from stupid!) or my Graph Plotter. Not sure of the best way to then get the result into another application. You could use the OOo API to copy it to the clipboard, or to save it in Flash format (or some other suitable format). See Document Converter at the above site for the code to do that. Please reply to users@openoffice.org only. -- CPH : openoffice.org contributor Maybe your question has been answered already? http://user-faq.openoffice.org/#FAQ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw
El Martes, 7 de Noviembre de 2006 19:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: The help menue does not give me the information I need to begin an Engineering drawing. Do you sell course books? Have you checked http://documentation.openoffice.org ? There are some books on openoffice avaliable. Amazon is a good place to start looking for them. Javier. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw
Try converting your collection of objects to a 'curve' then flip horizonitally/vertically is enabled... /paul On 5/24/06, Stéphane MAREST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sir, I am using OOo draw 2.0.2, and I would like to make a miror about one drawing, it an assembled drawing, but I can this option is not valid. How can I do that? Thank you. regards Stephane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] draw enhancement
On Thursday 02 June 2005 12:04 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when i type white text over a jpg picture in draw, the entire text box turns white making it impossible to see the white text being typed. the problem is just visual - once you click away from the text box, the white text displays as expected. See if this will work. When you draw the box for the text, there should be an arrow appear at the right end of the Text Object Bar/Draw. Click the arrow to give you some more choices. To the right of the paint brush is a drop-down list. Change it to Color, and in the drop-down list to its right select a dark color. (This will be your background color in the text box.) Type your text. When you are satisfied with your text, change Color back to Invisible. HTH Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw using pixels
Derek Duban wrote: I use OpenOffice as much as I can but now I have a bewildering problem: How do I work with pixels in Draw? Like many people I want to do graphics for the web. Places in the OpenOffice.org website mention web graphics but there is not a single reference to saving an image at a fixed pixel size. This is critical to website design. If it doesn't support pixel dimensions could you please explain why this is? - select pixels as default measurement unit in OOo Draw: Tools-Options-Drawing-General-Unit of measurement:Point - set the dimensions for page: Format-Page-Width/Height However, I would NOT recommend using OOo Draw for web graphics, it simply was not intended for this task and will lack important features (like antialiasing in the drawings created with it), much better choices are Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) for creating illustrations and Gimp (http://gimp.org) for photo editing. Here are a couple of tutorials about creating illustration with OOo Draw: - http://oooauthors.org/en/members/tutorials/draw/eyedraw/ - http://oooauthors.org/en/members/tutorials/draw/treedraw/ -- nicu my OpenOffice.org pages: http://ooo.nicubunu.ro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw using pixels
On Mon, 09 May 2005 06:46:01 -0700, Derek Duban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use OpenOffice as much as I can but now I have a bewildering problem: How do I work with pixels in Draw? Like many people I want to do graphics for the web. Places in the OpenOffice.org website mention web graphics but there is not a single reference to saving an image at a fixed pixel size. This is critical to website design. Hi all. The closest that I've come to getting anti-aliasing and fixed pixel sizes is to just resize it really big before converting it to a bitmap. Be sure to look at the image at 100%, because that's pretty much how it's going to look in pixels. After converting it to a huge bitmap, crop it down to the desired size so that it appears smoother. I hope that helps. Thanks for the suggestions regarding GIMP and Inkscape. I'll probably download 1 of them. -- Sincerely, and with thanks, Eugene T.S. Wong Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw using pixels
If you want to create art and logos, I suggest GIMP, a free, open source image manipulation program. It is more suited to this task. Derek Duban wrote: I use OpenOffice as much as I can but now I have a bewildering problem: How do I work with pixels in Draw? Like many people I want to do graphics for the web. Places in the OpenOffice.org website mention web graphics but there is not a single reference to saving an image at a fixed pixel size. This is critical to website design. If it doesn't support pixel dimensions could you please explain why this is? Thank you, __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw using pixels
On Monday 09 May 2005 08:46 am, Derek Duban wrote: I use OpenOffice as much as I can but now I have a bewildering problem: How do I work with pixels in Draw? Like many people I want to do graphics for the web. Places in the OpenOffice.org website mention web graphics but there is not a single reference to saving an image at a fixed pixel size. This is critical to website design. If it doesn't support pixel dimensions could you please explain why this is? Thank you, Here is a reply that was sent directly to our mailing list: If you want to create art and logos, I suggest GIMP, a free, open source image manipulation program. It is more suited to this task. Please send all correspondence concernign OpenOffice.org to this mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw using pixels
I would think that this (saving at fixed pixel size) is relevant only for few users of OOo and therefore may have been missed off the functionality list. You can put forward an enhancement request, post the number and get people to vote for it. There are other OpenSource programs that would probably be better for this level of graphic work (eg, gimp). /paul On 5/10/05, Derek Duban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use OpenOffice as much as I can but now I have a bewildering problem: How do I work with pixels in Draw? Like many people I want to do graphics for the web. Places in the OpenOffice.org website mention web graphics but there is not a single reference to saving an image at a fixed pixel size. This is critical to website design. If it doesn't support pixel dimensions could you please explain why this is? Thank you, __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Draw 2.0 Beta liest 1.1.4 nicht ganz richtig
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 20:59, + Heiko Kuschel wrote: [ MODERATED ] *** Hallo Open-Office-Liste, ich habe hier ein kleines, unter OOo 1.1.4 auf die Schnelle zusammengestöpseltes Plakat: http://www.kuschelchaos.de/ooo/Takeoff2005alle-Plakat.sxd (Ca. 1,5MB) Wenn ich das mit OOo 2.0 Beta öffne, haben diverse Grafiken und auch der gesamte Text beim Ausdruck einen dünnen schwarzen Rand außenrum. Habe ich nur eine Einstellung übersehen? Oder ist das ein Fehler? Dass die unterste Zeile www.takeoffgochsheim.de umgebrochen wird, weil die Schrift eigentlich zu breit ist für den Kasten, sehe ich ja noch ein. Aber diese Kästchen überall außenrum sind sehr störend. Bug? Feature? Issue? Ideen? Soll ich das melden? Ich verwende OpenOffice.org 1.1.4 und 1.9.79 auf Windows XP Home und Pro. Hi Heiko, This list is an english language list. Can you either resubmit your question in english or send your question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please reply to users@openoffice.org only -- CPH : openoffice.org contributor Maybe your question has been answered already? http://user-faq.openoffice.org/#FAQ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
