Re: [SOGo] Two Versions

[Alexandru Sauciuc]

Hi,

we are getting really weird problems.

Case 1:
Colleague X had appointment A on Monday, 07.01.1970 12:00 (example date).
On 04.01.1970 she moved appointment A to 14:00 and created a new 
appointment B at 12:00. (with very few seconds in between)
SOGo did not get to process moving appointment A and tried creating B, 
returning a conflict. X's client had processed everything on the client 
side, returning false confirmation that her actions were successful and 
went into the weekend. Monday appointment A was waiting at 12:00, and 
appointment B was not created.


Case 2:
Processing message failed. Status: 800040005. From what I understood, 
this means the meeting was created from within an organization, but the 
meeting itself is external and not known to the calendar server.
We keep getting these from Outlook users. I do not understand how this 
happens, but sometimes it works, others not. No errors are reported on 
any client.


Case 3:
If we activate SOGoSendNotifications Outlook users send sometimes 20 
duplicates of the same invitation. If we disable it and let appointment 
processing to the users via mail, Outlook users are perfectly fine but 
SOGo can't send notifications in the webmailer anymore, no matter wether 
you check the "Send notifications" box or not.


And these are the first examples that came through my mind. The 
Outlook:Thunderbird user ratio is 1:10. We get 10 more support tickets 
from Outlook users than Thunderbird, most of them related to 
CalDavSynchronizer. This is not a stable solution. Also, mobile support 
is terrible. If we activate Active Sync, we need more performance for 5 
active sync users than for other 150 normal users, because SOGo reserves 
one whole thread for every active sync connection.


That is why we kinda had hopes for the native 2.x, but apparently not. I 
am open for suggestions for better compatibility with Outlook, though.



Kind regards,
Alex


On 4/25/24 10:27, qhivert (qhiv...@alinto.eu) wrote:

Hello,

What version of sogo are you using?
If this is the last ones ~5.10 there shouldn't be any CalDavSynchronizer 
errors. I'm myself using Outlook with CalDavSynchronizer and everything's works 
fine with SOGO 5.9.

Other versions that 5.X are not maintained anymore and I strongly suggest to 
not switch to them.

Regards,
Quentin

-Original Message-
From:users-requ...@sogo.nuOn Behalf Of Alexandru 
Sauciuc
Sent: jeudi 25 avril 2024 10:08
To:users@sogo.nu
Subject: [SOGo] Two Versions

Hello there,

we are a small firm and have been using SOGo for a few years now.
Due to Outlook compatibility problems (more exactly CalDavSynchronizer
errors) we are considering alternatives.

While looking for alternatives, we found out that SOGo is actually maintaining 
two versions, one of which (2.x) offers Outlook native support (over 
openchange).

Now the question is, how maintained is the 2.x really? We noticed the last 
release in April 2022, and 1 year before that but nothing since.
Openchange is a little worse, as we see the last update was in 2015.
Is the version 2.x safe to use in production? What are the main differences 
between the version 2.x and 3.x+?


Kind regards,
Alex



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Re: [SOGo] Two Versions

[Alexandru Sauciuc]

We really prefer CalDAV applications but unfortunately there are a few 
exceptions that are pushing us into providing Outlook support.


Thank you for confirming, we'll look forward.

On 4/25/24 10:22, Marco Moock (m...@dorfdsl.de) wrote:

Am 25.04.2024 schrieb "Alexandru Sauciuc"
(alexandru.sauc...@lauterbach.com):


While looking for alternatives, we found out that SOGo is actually
maintaining two versions, one of which (2.x) offers Outlook native
support (over openchange).

Is there a reason you are fixed to Outlook?
You can choose any other CalDAV application.


Now the question is, how maintained is the 2.x really?

For me it looks like it isn't maintained anymore.
It is also not shown on the website anymore. 2022 a demo for SOGo 2 was
on the website.
The owner of SOGo changed (inverse to Alinto) and maybe they decided to
drop support for version 2.


Is the version 2.x safe to use in production?

I wouldn't switch to that. As you said, no real work is being done and
I assume there won't be in future.

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IT-DevOps Engineer
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Altlaufstraße 40, 85635 Höhenkirchen-Siegertsbrunn, GERMANY
www.lauterbach.com   

Registered Office: Höhenkirchen-Siegertsbrunn, Germany, 
Local Court: Munich, HRB 75034, VAT ID: DE129401059, 
Managing Directors: Lothar Lauterbach, Stephan Lauterbach, Norbert Weiß, 
Dr. Thomas Ullmann

RE: [SOGo] Two Versions

[qhivert]

Hello,

What version of sogo are you using?
If this is the last ones ~5.10 there shouldn't be any CalDavSynchronizer 
errors. I'm myself using Outlook with CalDavSynchronizer and everything's works 
fine with SOGO 5.9. 

Other versions that 5.X are not maintained anymore and I strongly suggest to 
not switch to them.

Regards,
Quentin

-Original Message-
From: users-requ...@sogo.nu  On Behalf Of Alexandru 
Sauciuc
Sent: jeudi 25 avril 2024 10:08
To: users@sogo.nu
Subject: [SOGo] Two Versions

Hello there,

we are a small firm and have been using SOGo for a few years now.
Due to Outlook compatibility problems (more exactly CalDavSynchronizer
errors) we are considering alternatives.

While looking for alternatives, we found out that SOGo is actually maintaining 
two versions, one of which (2.x) offers Outlook native support (over 
openchange).

Now the question is, how maintained is the 2.x really? We noticed the last 
release in April 2022, and 1 year before that but nothing since. 
Openchange is a little worse, as we see the last update was in 2015.
Is the version 2.x safe to use in production? What are the main differences 
between the version 2.x and 3.x+?


Kind regards,
Alex

Re: [SOGo] Two Versions

[Marco Moock]

Am 25.04.2024 schrieb "Alexandru Sauciuc"
(alexandru.sauc...@lauterbach.com) :

> While looking for alternatives, we found out that SOGo is actually 
> maintaining two versions, one of which (2.x) offers Outlook native 
> support (over openchange).

Is there a reason you are fixed to Outlook?
You can choose any other CalDAV application.

> Now the question is, how maintained is the 2.x really?

For me it looks like it isn't maintained anymore.
It is also not shown on the website anymore. 2022 a demo for SOGo 2 was
on the website.
The owner of SOGo changed (inverse to Alinto) and maybe they decided to
drop support for version 2.

> Is the version 2.x safe to use in production?

I wouldn't switch to that. As you said, no real work is being done and
I assume there won't be in future.

[SOGo] Two Versions

[Alexandru Sauciuc]

Hello there,

we are a small firm and have been using SOGo for a few years now.
Due to Outlook compatibility problems (more exactly CalDavSynchronizer 
errors) we are considering alternatives.


While looking for alternatives, we found out that SOGo is actually 
maintaining two versions, one of which (2.x) offers Outlook native 
support (over openchange).


Now the question is, how maintained is the 2.x really? We noticed the 
last release in April 2022, and 1 year before that but nothing since. 
Openchange is a little worse, as we see the last update was in 2015.
Is the version 2.x safe to use in production? What are the main 
differences between the version 2.x and 3.x+?



Kind regards,
Alex