Location of Spam folder
This might be a stupid question, but where is the spam folder located I have enabled spam box, and would have supposed that I could see a folder somewhere, where I could review and finally delete spam emails. But it is not listed in cpanel in Add/Remove/Manage Accounts for the account where I activated Spamassassin, nor is it shown as a subfolder under each mail account for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm confused. the whole idea for me is to avoid getting spam into my email client, but I would have supposed I could somewhere review the spam emails. Another thing: Assuming there is a solution to the above, is it then possible to have one spam account across whn accounts in cpanel, ie. to avoid opening a bunch of various spam folders to check the content of the spam folder? Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Location-of-Spam-folder-tp20635241p20635241.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Location of Spam folder
On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 02:58 -0800, mlun wrote: This might be a stupid question, but where is the spam folder located It will be wherever you told your MUA (mail reaqder) to put it. You don't say what your mail reader is, but you should check that its rules for recognising spam and sorting it into the spam folder match the SA headers and/or the written 'Subject:' header. I'm confused. the whole idea for me is to avoid getting spam into my email client, but I would have supposed I could somewhere review the spam emails. That's not what SA does: it just flags messages as spam or not-spam by adding X-Spam-* headers. Its up to some other program (typically procmail or your MUA) to separate spam from ham. Another thing: Assuming there is a solution to the above, is it then possible to have one spam account across whn accounts in cpanel, ie. to avoid opening a bunch of various spam folders to check the content of the spam folder? Ask a cpanel forum for help with cpanel. Martin
Re: Location of Spam folder
Thanks Martin, but I am a bit confused now. This text is taken directly from Spamassassins setup in cpanel: Spam Box This feature allows emails identified as spam by SpamAssassin to be delivered to a separate mail folder named spam. If this folder is not regularly checked and emptied, it may cause your email or file system quotas to be exceeded, resulting in a failure to receive legitimate messages. You can easily use IMAP or Horde/IMP to check messages that are routed to this box. If you wish to use pop3 to check the spam box, just add /spam (without the quotes) to the end of your pop3 login. (Example: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/spam) This feature's use is generally discouraged in favor of sorting and deleting spam messages using your mail client. Without Spam Box you can configure SpamAssassin to mark your email with an identifying subject (e.g. ***SPAM***), which can then be filtered out into an appropriate location. So when I enable Spam Box, why do mails not get delivered to a separate mail folder named spam? Clearly, after I have activated Spamassassin and Spambox, no spam emails from thsi account is landing in my Thunderbird email account. And this was exactly what I was after, because the spam emails for some reason disrupts my Thunderbird email client. If what I am after is not possible with Spam Assassin is for example Mailwasher Server then a better alternative? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Location-of-Spam-folder-tp20635241p20635789.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: rDNS problem
On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 01:04 +0100, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Sat, November 22, 2008 00:31, Daniel J McDonald wrote: 74/8 was removed from the Bogon list in 2005, but maybe the recipient hasn't updated their bogon acl in bind... rdns have nothing to do with rbl But many people hard-code bogons into bind, and if they are clueless admins they don't update it... The bogon list is published at http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html The question is - what piece of gear inserted the header (from the small snippet we have seen, we don't know). Since this is someone from intersessions.com posting, my guess would be that he got a False positive spam report from someone, and they handed the headers they generated, and he's trying to figure out why it's unknown. If the other guys have their dns messed up because they haven't cleaned out bogons in 4 years, then it would show up as unknown. There have been some fairly major distros that were distributing stale bogon lists in the bind package. Mandriva, as an example, had a 6-year-old bogon list in their bind package until I opened a bug a year ago (and they tried to close it as a WON'TFIX, but cooler heads prevailed after a bit of thought...) -- Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX Austin Energy http://www.austinenergy.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
no loaded plugin implements 'check_main': cannot scan!
Hi,
I just upgrade my version of SpamAssassin from 3.1 to 3.2.1-r1. I am
using Gentoo.
Since I upgraded, I have following error message in mail.err :
check: no loaded plugin implements
'check_main': cannot scan! at
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line
164
Before it works
correctly and spam was correctly labelled ***SPAM*** in my emails box
I checked permissions on directories and files to
/etc/mail/spamassassin and everything seems ok to me :
ls -lrt /etc/mail/spamassassin/
total 28
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2397 jun 2 2006 v310.pre
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1343 jun 2 2006 local.cf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2067 nov 22 13:47 v320.pre
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 922 nov 22 13:47 v312.pre
-r 1 root root 664 nov 22 13:47 secrets.cf.example
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 140 nov 22 13:47 local.cf.example
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 951 nov 22 13:47 init.pre
Here is the output of following command : su qscand -c
'spamassassin --lint -D'
[9874] dbg: logger: adding facilities: all
[9874] dbg: logger: logging level is DBG
[9874] dbg: generic: SpamAssassin version 3.2.1
[9874] dbg: config: score set 0 chosen.
[9874] dbg: util: running in taint mode? no
[9874] dbg: dns: no ipv6
[9874] dbg: dns: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yes
[9874] dbg: dns: Net::DNS version: 0.53
[9874] dbg: diag: perl platform: 5.008008 linux
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: Digest::SHA1, version 2.11
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: HTML::Parser, version 3.48
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: Net::DNS, version 0.53
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: MIME::Base64, version 3.07
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: DB_File, version 1.815
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: Net::SMTP, version 2.29
[9874] dbg: diag: module not installed: Mail::SPF ('require' failed)
[9874] dbg: diag: module not installed: Mail::SPF::Query ('require'
failed)
[9874] dbg: diag: module not installed: IP::Country::Fast ('require'
failed)
[9874] dbg: diag: module not installed: Razor2::Client::Agent
('require' failed)
[9874] dbg: diag: module not installed: Net::Ident ('require' failed)
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: IO::Socket::INET6, version 2.51
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: IO::Socket::SSL, version 0.97
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: Compress::Zlib, version 2.015
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: Time::HiRes, version 1.9715
[9874] dbg: diag: module not installed: Mail::DomainKeys ('require'
failed)
[9874] dbg: diag: module not installed: Mail::DKIM ('require' failed)
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: DBI, version 1.50
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: Getopt::Long, version 2.35
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: LWP::UserAgent, version 2.033
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: HTTP::Date, version 1.46
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: Archive::Tar, version 1.40
[9874] dbg: diag: module installed: IO::Zlib, version 1.09
[9874] dbg: diag: module not installed: Encode::Detect ('require'
failed)
[9874] dbg: ignore: using a test message to lint rules
[9874] dbg: config: using "/etc/mail/spamassassin" for site rules pre
files
[9874] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/init.pre
[9874] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/v310.pre
[9874] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/v312.pre
[9874] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/v320.pre
[9874] dbg: config: using "/usr/share/spamassassin" for sys rules pre
files
[9874] dbg: config: using "/usr/share/spamassassin" for default rules
dir
[9874] dbg: config: read file
/usr/share/spamassassin/10_default_prefs.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/11_gentoo.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_advance_fee.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_body_tests.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_compensate.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_drugs.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_dynrdns.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file
/usr/share/spamassassin/20_fake_helo_tests.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_head_tests.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_html_tests.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_imageinfo.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_meta_tests.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_net_tests.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_phrases.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_ratware.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_uri_tests.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/20_vbounce.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/23_bayes.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file /usr/share/spamassassin/25_accessdb.cf
[9874] dbg: config: read file
Re: Location of Spam folder
On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 04:12 -0800, mlun wrote: Thanks Martin, but I am a bit confused now. This text is taken directly from Spamassassins setup in cpanel: Ask the cpanel group. It's their integration of SpamAssassin that you have questions about, not the underlying working of SpamAssassin itself. -- Daniel J McDonald, CCIE #2495, CISSP #78281, CNX Austin Energy http://www.austinenergy.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Location of Spam folder
On Saturday 22 November 2008, mlun wrote: This might be a stupid question, but where is the spam folder located I have enabled spam box, and would have supposed that I could see a folder somewhere, where I could review and finally delete spam emails. But it is not listed in cpanel in Add/Remove/Manage Accounts for the account where I activated Spamassassin, nor is it shown as a subfolder under each mail account for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm confused. the whole idea for me is to avoid getting spam into my email client, but I would have supposed I could somewhere review the spam emails. Another thing: Assuming there is a solution to the above, is it then possible to have one spam account across whn accounts in cpanel, ie. to avoid opening a bunch of various spam folders to check the content of the spam folder? Thanks! The true spam folder is one I created in kmail, where I place stuff I call spam, and once a day cron reads it all to sa-learn, then deletes it. Stuff that SA calls spam I never see, cuz procmail sends it to a folder called /dev/null. I no longer worry about FP's doing that cuz I've no kin about to die and leave me 225 million dollars, in a bank in Nigeria no less. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Oh Dad! We're ALL Devo!
Re: Location of Spam folder
Mlun wrote on Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:12:12 -0800 (PST): So when I enable Spam Box, why do mails not get delivered to a separate mail folder named spam? We *cannot* know. This has nothing to do with spamassassin, it's probably a setup with procmail delivering to a mail folder. Ask your provider and read again what you skipped so easily: This feature's use is generally discouraged in favor of sorting and deleting spam messages using your mail client. Clearly, after I have activated Spamassassin and Spambox, no spam emails from thsi account is landing in my Thunderbird email account. Read again what you quoted, read what is written there, not what you want to think is written there. Again, this has nothing to do with SA, but with the cpanel setup. Ask your provider in case you don't understand what the cpanel help tells you. Oh, I see, another posting from Nabble. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com
Re: Location of Spam folder
Thanks for your help, but it does not seem as if SA is the right tool for my job. I have a problem where Thunderbird for some unknown reason arbitrarily merges spammails into hammails, so complete total chaos. What I was after was a server-side filter so that spam emails never had to go into my TB email client. Will look at Mailwasher server instead. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Location-of-Spam-folder-tp20635241p20637206.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Location of Spam folder
On Sat, November 22, 2008 16:01, mlun wrote: What I was after was a server-side filter so that spam emails never had to go into my TB email client. for thunderbird you need http://sieve.mozdev.org/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2548?nor=true here is more info on sieve http://sieve.info/ Will look at Mailwasher server instead. using dovevot (sieve enabled) here, dont know what mailwasher is :) -- Benny Pedersen Need more webspace ? http://www.servage.net/?coupon=cust37098
Re: Location of Spam folder
*gasp* just wanted to clearify that not all users are like that. Just to prevent devs from thinking SA should have a gui and stuff... So many open source projects are switching to be more user friendly... please... don't. Just let him go use brai^H^H^H^Hmailwasher. -- best regards Arvid Ephraim Picciani Lead Software Engineer IB C SOLUTIONS LTD
razor2 and mysql user prefs
Hi I am in the process of moving my preferences to mysql. All is working well except razor. If the following lines are in local.cf all functions correctly use_razor2 1 razor_config/var/qmail/spamd/.razor/razor-agent.conf If I move the preferences to the user pref table preference value --- -- use_razor2 1 razor_config/var/qmail/spamd/.razor/razor-agent.conf then the following error appears in the logs 2008-11-22 15:44:42.824802500 [8929] info: config: not parsing, administrator setting: razor_config /var/qmail/spamd/.razor/razor-agent.conf 2008-11-22 15:44:42.826791500 [8929] info: config: failed to parse line, skipping, in (no file): razor_config /var/qmail/spamd/.razor/razor-agent.conf The file is there and readable: ls -l /var/qmail/spamd/.razor/razor-agent.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 spamd qmail 706 2007-06-02 18:21 /var/qmail/spamd/.razor/razor-agent.conf Any ideas what I've got wrong? Thanks Gary
Re: Location of Spam folder
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008, mlun wrote: Thanks for your help, but it does not seem as if SA is the right tool for my job. ... What I was after was a server-side filter so that spam emails never had to go into my TB email client. That is exactly what SA plus a delivery agent (such as procmail) that looks for the SA score headers is. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 --- A sword is never a killer, it is but a tool in the killer's hands. -- Lucius Annaeus Seneca (Martial) 4BC-65AD ---
Re: Is spam volume really down
Matt schrieb: Is this news true ( spams down by 75% ) http://www.securecomputing.net.au/News/128340%2cspam-volumes-drop-75-percent-in-a-day.aspx On my servers I havent seen any big change My disk I/O utilization dropped from 49% to 32% percent. Matt Since Friday noon a big ddos attack had started against InternetX the spam amount/cons from bots and others got down nearly to null on all my servers and domains even my spam loved old three letter domain which was highly targeted since ever now has nearly none bot connects anymore I dont wanna speculate about relations between these happings but report them in time sync from my side --info sorry only German http://www.heise.de/newsticker/DDoS-Attacke-auf-InternetX-Update--/meldung/119274 -- Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer Germany/Munich/Bavaria
