Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-05-26 Thread Randhir Singh
 To: 'Randhir Singh'
 Subject: RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

  -Original Message-
  From: Randhir Singh [mailto:randhir.si...@sterlite.com]
  Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 5:47 AM
  To: Jeffrey Janner; Tomcat Users List
  Subject: RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat
 
  Thanks for your valuable inputs. I am a bit of a novice to this. When
  this problem happens, it is quite a loss of face in front of the users
  who are widely spread geographically. I checked the catalina.out logs
  on the 2 days that the problem happened on 23rd  25th April, the
  findings are as below:
 
  23rd April '14:
 
  The catalina.out log showed the message like,
  --
  -
  --
  -
  -
  Caused by: org.jboss.remoting.InvocationFailureException: Socket timed
  out.
  Waited 30 milliseconds for response while calling on
  InvokerLocator [socket://hostname of our
  machine:4173/?invokerDestructionDelay=5000timeout=30]; nested
  exception is:
java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
  --
  -
  --
  -
  -
 
  3 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.
 
  25th April '14:
 
  The errors captured in the logs were like,
  --
  -
  --
  -
  -
  java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

 This error specifically means that the JVM is basically spending all of
 its
 time doing garbage collection and not really getting any significant
 amount
 of memory back for its efforts.  The end user experiences this usually as
 a
 hung system.  It might eventually come back or it might end up with a
 different, more severe, OOM error.
 There are lots of various causes for this: too small memory allocation;
 too
 much load; an activity generating a lot of objects, most of which persist
 for a long time; memory leaks; or a combination of the above.
 How to address it?
 a) Profile what parts of the app are being used with this occurs and have
 the dev team look at what could be causing the problem.  There might be a
 better way to perform the action requested.
 b) Increase the available memory (double it or more).  This is only a
 band-aid and you may still have the problem, but less often. Have the dev
 team look for memory leaks.
 c) Anyone else with ideas?
 Jeff

  --
  -
  --
  -
  -
 
  4 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.
 
  Requesting a reply on this.
 
  Regards

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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-05-26 Thread André Warnier

Randhir Singh wrote:

Hi,

I increased the Heap  PermGen memory as per trail mail but the performance
seemed to deteriorate. On the day I increased the memory in the morning,
the system hung 3 times in the day whereas the maximum times it has got
hang before is 2 times in a day. I changed the memory settings for Heap 
PermGen back to before when it hung again the next day, I reverted to the
old memory values.

The catalina.out showed the entries like below when I monitored it twice
after the system hung with the new memory values:



[ 22-May-2014 03:15:40 ] [ TRACE ] [http-30080-56] [ CHECK SESSION ] :
Inside doInit Method
May 22, 2014 3:16:14 PM org.zkoss.zk.ui.impl.UiEngineImpl handleError:1351
SEVERE: org.zkoss.zk.ui.UiException:
org.jboss.remoting.InvocationFailureException: Socket timed out.  Waited
30 milliseconds for response while calling on InvokerLocator [socket://
bssossapp01.snl.com:4173/?invokerDestructionDelay=5000timeout=30];
nested exception is:
java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out

org.jboss.remoting.InvocationFailureException: Socket timed out.  Waited

30 milliseconds for response while calling on InvokerLocator [socket://
bssossapp01.snl.com:4173/?invokerDestructionDelay=5000timeout=30];
nested exception is:
java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out

java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
at java.net.SocketInputStream.socketRead0(Native Method)




I would be eager to respond in case of any clarification.

Requesting a reply to resolve this as the attempt to resolve this by
increasing Heap  PermGen memory has failed. I have worked on this issue a
lot and have been trying to interact with the experts on the forum.

Regards



Hi.
I am jumping in here in the middle, and have not followed the previous correspondence. 
(Which is hard anyway, considering that you keep on top-posting).

(And I do not know Jboss at all, so maybe I am misinterpreting all of this).

But if I go by what you are mentioning above - and despite the apparent subject - it looks 
to me as follows :
- the application (not part of any Tomcat code per se) is trying to connect to, and read 
from, some (for Tomcat) external server
- and that external service is not responding, within the timeout set for this connection 
(300,000 ms = 5 minutes)

- thus you see the above exceptions happening

So it is a bit hard from there, to figure out what the Tomcat Heap and Permgen sizes (or 
Tomcat performance for that matter) have to do with this.
Intuitively, I would tend to think that if you give more memory to Tomcat to play with, 
then maybe it tries to handle more simultaneous requests that cause more of these external 
connections to be opened, all of them ultimately failing because the external server does 
not respond.

Should you not look at what causes the external server to be slow to respond, 
first of all ?



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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-05-22 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Randir,

On 5/21/14, 8:32 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
 There is a correction as JAVA_OPTS variable is defined in
 catalina.sh under $CATALINA_HOME/bin and we use
 $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh to start tomcat.
 $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh has the code like below ,

startup.sh calls catalina.out.

Do not modify either of these files. Instead, set anything you need in
setenv.sh (which you may have to create because it does not exist by
default).

Also, you probably want to use CATALINA_OPTS and not JAVA_OPTS. Read
the documentation at the top of catalina.sh to understand why.

- -chris

 --

 
PRGDIR=`dirname $PRG`
 EXECUTABLE=catalina.sh
 
 # Check that target executable exists if $os400; then # -x will
 Only work on the os400 if the files are: # 1. owned by the user #
 2. owned by the PRIMARY group of the user # this will not work if
 the user belongs in secondary groups eval else if [ ! -x
 $PRGDIR/$EXECUTABLE ]; then echo Cannot find
 $PRGDIR/$EXECUTABLE echo The file is absent or does not have
 execute permission echo This file is needed to run this program 
 exit 1 fi fi 
 --

  I had changed catalina.sh in our development environment like a
 week back and want to implement it in the production environment
 but I got this doubt. I feel catalina.sh is invoked by startup.sh
 but am not sure. I have already taken downtime for production
 tomorrow but I got this doubt whether changing the
 
 JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms1303m -Xmx1303m -XX:MaxPermSize=256m 
 -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1 -Dcwom.bl.port=1399 to
 
 JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms2048m -Xmx2048m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m
 -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1  -Dcwom.bl.port=1399
 
 in catalina.sh would have the affect of increasing the heap 
 Permgen memory in Tomcat.
 
 I hope my query is clear as am quite anxious as I have a downtime
 scheduled tomorrow.
 
 Requesting a reply on priority.
 
 
 On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Randhir Singh
 randhir.si...@sterlite.comwrote:
 
 Thanks Chris for your answer.
 
 I researched a lot and want to try out an option for OOME:
 
 The JAVA_OPTS variable in $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh has the
 value as:
 
 JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms1303m -Xmx1303m -XX:MaxPermSize=256m 
 -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1 -Dcwom.bl.port=1399
 
 I checked for free space on the VM instance with Red Hat Linux as
 the OS on which the Tomcat is hosted with a total memory of 19
 GB, I found that there is around 8 GB of free space in the
 server.
 
 I am planning to increase the memory allocation for Heap size and
 PermGen size to almost double as below:
 
 JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms2048m -Xmx2048m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m 
 -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1 -Dcwom.bl.port=1399
 
 I hope, this should avoid the hang-up issues where Tomcat does
 not seem to respond. I plan to implement this in the UAT
 environment at first and see how it goes.
 
 There is another thing I wanted to try. We have RHEL 5.8 Beta
 (Tikanga) version and lot of updates from Red Hat are pending
 which can update the version to RHEL 5.10 (Tikanga). Would this
 patching help as lot of updates are pending?
 
 Regards
 
 -Original Message- From: Christopher Schultz
 [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Sent: Monday, April 28,
 2014 6:46 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: How to monitor
 performance of tomcat
 
 Randir,
 
 On 4/28/14, 6:46 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
 Thanks for your valuable inputs. I am a bit of a novice to
 this. When this problem happens, it is quite a loss of face
 in front of the users who are widely spread geographically. I
 checked the catalina.out logs on the 2 days that the problem
 happened on 23rd  25th April, the findings are as below:
 
 23rd April '14:
 
 The catalina.out log showed the message like, 
 --

 
- --
 ---
 
 
 Caused by: org.jboss.remoting.InvocationFailureException: Socket
 timed out.
 Waited 30 milliseconds for response while calling on 
 InvokerLocator [socket://hostname of our 
 machine:4173/?invokerDestructionDelay=5000timeout=30]; 
 nested exception is: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read
 timed out 
 --

 
- --
 ---
 
 3 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2
 minutes.
 
 25th April '14:
 
 The errors captured in the logs were like, 
 --

 
- --
 ---
 
 
 java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead

Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-05-21 Thread Randhir Singh
Hi,

There is a correction as JAVA_OPTS variable is defined in catalina.sh under
$CATALINA_HOME/bin and we use $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh to start
tomcat. $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh has the code like below ,

--
PRGDIR=`dirname $PRG`
EXECUTABLE=catalina.sh

# Check that target executable exists
if $os400; then
  # -x will Only work on the os400 if the files are:
  # 1. owned by the user
  # 2. owned by the PRIMARY group of the user
  # this will not work if the user belongs in secondary groups
  eval
else
  if [ ! -x $PRGDIR/$EXECUTABLE ]; then
echo Cannot find $PRGDIR/$EXECUTABLE
echo The file is absent or does not have execute permission
echo This file is needed to run this program
exit 1
  fi
fi
--

I had changed catalina.sh in our development environment like a week back
and want to implement it in the production environment but I got this
doubt. I feel catalina.sh is invoked by startup.sh but am not sure. I have
already taken downtime for production tomorrow but I got this doubt whether
changing the

JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms1303m -Xmx1303m -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
-Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1 -Dcwom.bl.port=1399 to

JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms2048m -Xmx2048m
-XX:MaxPermSize=512m -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1  -Dcwom.bl.port=1399

in catalina.sh would have the affect of increasing the heap  Permgen
memory in Tomcat.

I hope my query is clear as am quite anxious as I have a downtime scheduled
tomorrow.

Requesting a reply on priority.


randhir.si...@sterlite.com wrote:

 Thanks a lot for your detailed reply.

 The JAVA_OPTS variable in $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh has the value as:

 JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms1303m -Xmx1303m -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
 -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1
  -Dcwom.bl.port=1399

 I checked for free space on the VM instance with Red Hat Linux as the OS on
 which the Tomcat is hosted with a total memory of 19 GB, I found that there
 is around 8 GB of free space in the server.

 As per your inputs, I am planning to increase the memory allocation for
 Heap
 size and PermGen size to almost double as below:

 JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms2048m -Xmx2048m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m
 -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1
  -Dcwom.bl.port=1399

 I hope, this should avoid the hang-up issues where Tomcat does not seem to
 respond.

 I plan to implement this in the UAT environment at first and see how it
 goes.

 Regards

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
 Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:39 PM
 To: 'Randhir Singh'
 Subject: RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

  -Original Message-
  From: Randhir Singh [mailto:randhir.si...@sterlite.com]
  Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 5:47 AM
  To: Jeffrey Janner; Tomcat Users List
  Subject: RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat
 
  Thanks for your valuable inputs. I am a bit of a novice to this. When
  this problem happens, it is quite a loss of face in front of the users
  who are widely spread geographically. I checked the catalina.out logs
  on the 2 days that the problem happened on 23rd  25th April, the
  findings are as below:
 
  23rd April '14:
 
  The catalina.out log showed the message like,
  --
  -
  --
  -
  -
  Caused by: org.jboss.remoting.InvocationFailureException: Socket timed
  out.
  Waited 30 milliseconds for response while calling on
  InvokerLocator [socket://hostname of our
  machine:4173/?invokerDestructionDelay=5000timeout=30]; nested
  exception is:
java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
  --
  -
  --
  -
  -
 
  3 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.
 
  25th April '14:
 
  The errors captured in the logs were like,
  --
  -
  --
  -
  -
  java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

 This error specifically means that the JVM is basically spending all of its
 time doing garbage collection and not really getting any significant amount
 of memory back for its efforts.  The end user experiences this usually as a
 hung system.  It might eventually come back or it might end up with a
 different, more severe, OOM error.
 There are lots of various causes for this: too small memory allocation; too
 much load; an activity generating a lot of objects, most of which persist
 for a long time; memory leaks; or a combination of the above.
 How

Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-05-21 Thread Randhir Singh
Hi,

There is a correction as JAVA_OPTS variable is defined in catalina.sh under
$CATALINA_HOME/bin and we use $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh to start
tomcat. $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh has the code like below ,

--
PRGDIR=`dirname $PRG`
EXECUTABLE=catalina.sh

# Check that target executable exists
if $os400; then
  # -x will Only work on the os400 if the files are:
  # 1. owned by the user
  # 2. owned by the PRIMARY group of the user
  # this will not work if the user belongs in secondary groups
  eval
else
  if [ ! -x $PRGDIR/$EXECUTABLE ]; then
echo Cannot find $PRGDIR/$EXECUTABLE
echo The file is absent or does not have execute permission
echo This file is needed to run this program
exit 1
  fi
fi
--

I had changed catalina.sh in our development environment like a week back
and want to implement it in the production environment but I got this
doubt. I feel catalina.sh is invoked by startup.sh but am not sure. I have
already taken downtime for production tomorrow but I got this doubt whether
changing the

JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms1303m -Xmx1303m -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
-Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1 -Dcwom.bl.port=1399 to

JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms2048m -Xmx2048m
-XX:MaxPermSize=512m -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1  -Dcwom.bl.port=1399

in catalina.sh would have the affect of increasing the heap  Permgen
memory in Tomcat.

I hope my query is clear as am quite anxious as I have a downtime scheduled
tomorrow.

Requesting a reply on priority.


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Randhir Singh randhir.si...@sterlite.comwrote:

 Thanks Chris for your answer.

 I researched a lot and want to try out an option for OOME:

 The JAVA_OPTS variable in $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh has the value as:

 JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms1303m -Xmx1303m -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
 -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1
  -Dcwom.bl.port=1399

 I checked for free space on the VM instance with Red Hat Linux as the OS on
 which the Tomcat is hosted with a total memory of 19 GB, I found that there
 is around 8 GB of free space in the server.

 I am planning to increase the memory allocation for Heap size and PermGen
 size to almost double as below:

 JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms2048m -Xmx2048m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m
 -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1
  -Dcwom.bl.port=1399

 I hope, this should avoid the hang-up issues where Tomcat does not seem to
 respond. I plan to implement this in the UAT environment at first and see
 how it goes.

 There is another thing I wanted to try. We have RHEL 5.8 Beta (Tikanga)
 version and lot of updates from Red Hat are pending which can update the
 version to RHEL 5.10 (Tikanga). Would this patching help as lot of updates
 are pending?

 Regards

 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
 Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 6:46 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA256

 Randir,

 On 4/28/14, 6:46 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
  Thanks for your valuable inputs. I am a bit of a novice to this.
  When this problem happens, it is quite a loss of face in front of the
  users who are widely spread geographically. I checked the catalina.out
  logs on the 2 days that the problem happened on 23rd  25th April, the
  findings are as below:
 
  23rd April '14:
 
  The catalina.out log showed the message like,
  --
  --
  ---
 
 
 Caused by: org.jboss.remoting.InvocationFailureException: Socket timed out.
  Waited 30 milliseconds for response while calling on
  InvokerLocator [socket://hostname of our
  machine:4173/?invokerDestructionDelay=5000timeout=30];
  nested exception is: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
  --
  --
  ---
 
   3 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.
 
  25th April '14:
 
  The errors captured in the logs were like,
  --
  --
  ---
 
 
 java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
  --
  --
  ---
 
   4 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.
 
  Requesting a reply on this.

 It sounds like you have all kinds of problems:

 1. Bad performance under unspecified conditions 2. Application hang

Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-05-21 Thread Ognjen Blagojevic

Randhir,

On 21.5.2014 14:31, Randhir Singh wrote:

I had changed catalina.sh in our development environment like a week back
and want to implement it in the production environment but I got this
doubt. I feel catalina.sh is invoked by startup.sh but am not sure. I have
already taken downtime for production tomorrow but I got this doubt whether
changing the


1. Don't post the same message twice. It makes volunteers on the list 
waste their time.


2. Don't top post. Bottom posting is the standard on this list.

3. Don't request/ People are volunteering here.

4. In default Tomcat instalation, catalina.sh is called from startup.sh.

5. Regardless of do you call startup.sh or catalina.sh, environment 
variables have the same meaning: JAVA_OPTS is used on Tomcat startup and 
Tomcat shutdown, while CATALINA_OPTS is only used on Tomcat startup. If 
you place -Xms2048m in JAVA_OPTS it will reserve 2 GB on Tomcat startup, 
and another 2 GB when you invoke Tomcat shutdown. That is waste of 
memory. Use CATALINA_OPTS instead.


6. It is not recommended to modify startup.sh or catalina.sh ever. All 
environment variables should be set in the file bin/setenv.sh.


7. (5.) and (6.) were already pointed out by Chris. Please read answers 
on the list carefully to show that you respect resources volunteers are 
allocating for you for free.


8. You may invoke ps -fHA | grep Bootstrap after you start Tomcat, to 
see if your CATALINA_OPTS reached JVM call.


-Ognjen


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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-05-21 Thread Randhir Singh
Thanks Ognjen for your reply. My reply was intended to 2 different people
hence it repeated but anyway I would try to take care on this.

So now it is clear from your answer that catalina.sh is called from
startup.sh in a default installation.

Regards


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Ognjen Blagojevic 
ognjen.d.blagoje...@gmail.com wrote:

 Randhir,

 On 21.5.2014 14:31, Randhir Singh wrote:

 I had changed catalina.sh in our development environment like a week back
 and want to implement it in the production environment but I got this
 doubt. I feel catalina.sh is invoked by startup.sh but am not sure. I have
 already taken downtime for production tomorrow but I got this doubt
 whether
 changing the


 1. Don't post the same message twice. It makes volunteers on the list
 waste their time.

 2. Don't top post. Bottom posting is the standard on this list.

 3. Don't request/ People are volunteering here.

 4. In default Tomcat instalation, catalina.sh is called from startup.sh.

 5. Regardless of do you call startup.sh or catalina.sh, environment
 variables have the same meaning: JAVA_OPTS is used on Tomcat startup and
 Tomcat shutdown, while CATALINA_OPTS is only used on Tomcat startup. If you
 place -Xms2048m in JAVA_OPTS it will reserve 2 GB on Tomcat startup, and
 another 2 GB when you invoke Tomcat shutdown. That is waste of memory. Use
 CATALINA_OPTS instead.

 6. It is not recommended to modify startup.sh or catalina.sh ever. All
 environment variables should be set in the file bin/setenv.sh.

 7. (5.) and (6.) were already pointed out by Chris. Please read answers on
 the list carefully to show that you respect resources volunteers are
 allocating for you for free.

 8. You may invoke ps -fHA | grep Bootstrap after you start Tomcat, to
 see if your CATALINA_OPTS reached JVM call.

 -Ognjen


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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-05-20 Thread Randhir Singh
Hi,

I had another point to add in this other than the reply sent by me in the
earlier mail is that if the JVM crashes as pointed out by you, would a JVM
process get started when Tomcat is started.

Also, how to check if 2 processes are sharing a common JVM. The 2 processes
referred to with the context of our environment would be JBoss  Tomcat.

I hope my query is clear.

Requesting a reply.


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Randhir Singh
randhir.si...@sterlite.comwrote:

 Thanks for your valuable inputs. I am a bit of a novice to this. When this
 problem happens, it is quite a loss of face in front of the users who are
 widely spread geographically. I checked the catalina.out logs on the 2 days
 that the problem happened on 23rd  25th April, the findings are as below:

 23rd April '14:

 The catalina.out log showed the message like,

 ---
 Caused by: org.jboss.remoting.InvocationFailureException: Socket timed out.
 Waited 30 milliseconds for response while calling on InvokerLocator
 [socket://hostname of our
 machine:4173/?invokerDestructionDelay=5000timeout=30]; nested
 exception is:
 java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out

 ---

 3 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.

 25th April '14:

 The errors captured in the logs were like,

 ---
 java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

 ---

 4 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.

 Requesting a reply on this.

 Regards

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
 Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 7:26 PM
 To: 'Tomcat Users List'
 Subject: RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

  -Original Message-
  From: Randhir Singh [mailto:randhir.si...@sterlite.com]
  Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 5:17 AM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat
 
  Hi,
 
  I wanted input from the experts on my query below that the port 8891
  does not respond when the command,
 
  jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891
 
  is issued when the application hangs and stops responding.
 
  Requesting inputs so that the root cause analysis of this issue can be
  found out.
 
  Regards
 
 Randhir -
 Your actual first request in this thread was apparently a request for
 opinions on monitoring tools.
 This problem of actual hangs wasn't brought up until a week later.
 Here is what I've usually found when Tomcat stops responding and even the
 monitoring port is unreachable via jconsole and other tools: Your JVM has
 crashed for some reason.
 At this point, you need to refer to the Tomcat logs, your application logs,
 etc. in order to find the root cause.  If the JVM is still running, try
 taking a couple of thread dumps and review them to find your root cause.
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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-05-20 Thread André Warnier

Randhir Singh wrote:

Hi,

I had another point to add in this other than the reply sent by me in the
earlier mail is that if the JVM crashes as pointed out by you, would a JVM
process get started when Tomcat is started.

Also, how to check if 2 processes are sharing a common JVM. The 2 processes
referred to with the context of our environment would be JBoss  Tomcat.

I hope my query is clear.



Your question may be relatively clear, but maybe your premises are not clear.

From the system/OS perspective, the process which is running is the JVM (or multiple JVM 
processes; look for java on the first part of the command-line).


Then, this JVM may be running several (java bytecode) java applications.  But these are 
not processes from the OS perspective.  They are just things that the JVM is doing.


So, when you start Tomcat, you are not really starting a Tomcat process.  What you are 
starting is a JVM process, and you tell it (by its arguments), to start reading some 
compiled classes and executing their code.


What everyone has been trying to get out of you, so far without success, is how many java 
processes you are really starting, and what you are telling each of them to run in terms 
of java applications.
And (I am not an expert, so I am not commenting on that part), what most people here seem 
to be saying is that Jboss uses some embedded Tomcat code as its servlet engine, so it 
should all run within the same JVM (and thus the same process), and thus they do not 
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RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-05-06 Thread Randhir Singh
Thanks Chris for your answer.

There is around 8 GB of free memory and not disk.

Hope, the change in the Xms, Xmx  XX:MaxPermSize helps.

Any further inputs would be appreciated.

Thanks

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From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
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Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

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Randir,

On 5/5/14, 6:07 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
 Thanks Chris for your answer.

 I researched a lot and want to try out an option for OOME:

 The JAVA_OPTS variable in $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh has the value
 as:

You should use CATALINA_OPTS. Read the comments at the top of
bin/catalina.sh to see what the difference is.

Also, you should set these environment variables in bin/setenv.sh (which you
may have to create) instead of modifying startup.sh directly. It will make
upgrades much easier.

 JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms1303m -Xmx1303m -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
 -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1 -Dcwom.bl.port=1399

 I checked for free space on the VM instance with Red Hat Linux as the
 OS on which the Tomcat is hosted with a total memory of 19 GB, I found
 that there is around 8 GB of free space in the server.

8GiB free memory or disk?

 I am planning to increase the memory allocation for Heap size and
 PermGen size to almost double as below:

 JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms2048m -Xmx2048m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m
 -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1 -Dcwom.bl.port=1399

 I hope, this should avoid the hang-up issues where Tomcat does not
 seem to respond. I plan to implement this in the UAT environment at
 first and see how it goes.

If the problem is GC-related, then the only conditions under which things
will improve by increasing memory are if you were running right under the
heap ceiling you had imposed upon yourself and GC had to run a lot in order
to keep up. Remember that GC-time is related to the number of useful
references in the heap, so if you have a large heap with lots of long-lived
objects, GC will work harder (to a point, with generational GC).

 There is another thing I wanted to try. We have RHEL 5.8 Beta
 (Tikanga) version and lot of updates from Red Hat are pending which
 can update the version to RHEL 5.10 (Tikanga). Would this patching
 help as lot of updates are pending?

I have no idea. I know virtually nothing about RHEL and what changes will be
coming.

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RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-05-05 Thread Randhir Singh
Thanks Chris for your answer.

I researched a lot and want to try out an option for OOME:

The JAVA_OPTS variable in $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh has the value as:

JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms1303m -Xmx1303m -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
-Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1
 -Dcwom.bl.port=1399

I checked for free space on the VM instance with Red Hat Linux as the OS on
which the Tomcat is hosted with a total memory of 19 GB, I found that there
is around 8 GB of free space in the server.

I am planning to increase the memory allocation for Heap size and PermGen
size to almost double as below:

JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms2048m -Xmx2048m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m
-Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1
 -Dcwom.bl.port=1399

I hope, this should avoid the hang-up issues where Tomcat does not seem to
respond. I plan to implement this in the UAT environment at first and see
how it goes.

There is another thing I wanted to try. We have RHEL 5.8 Beta (Tikanga)
version and lot of updates from Red Hat are pending which can update the
version to RHEL 5.10 (Tikanga). Would this patching help as lot of updates
are pending?

Regards

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 6:46 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

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Randir,

On 4/28/14, 6:46 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
 Thanks for your valuable inputs. I am a bit of a novice to this.
 When this problem happens, it is quite a loss of face in front of the
 users who are widely spread geographically. I checked the catalina.out
 logs on the 2 days that the problem happened on 23rd  25th April, the
 findings are as below:

 23rd April '14:

 The catalina.out log showed the message like,
 --
 --
 ---


Caused by: org.jboss.remoting.InvocationFailureException: Socket timed out.
 Waited 30 milliseconds for response while calling on
 InvokerLocator [socket://hostname of our
 machine:4173/?invokerDestructionDelay=5000timeout=30];
 nested exception is: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
 --
 --
 ---

  3 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.

 25th April '14:

 The errors captured in the logs were like,
 --
 --
 ---


java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
 --
 --
 ---

  4 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.

 Requesting a reply on this.

It sounds like you have all kinds of problems:

1. Bad performance under unspecified conditions 2. Application hang under
unspecified conditions 3. catalina.out file grows quickly, may fill
filesystem 4. Long timeouts on the server-side during some unspecified
operation (I don't know what an InvokerLocator is) 5. OOME

It seems to me that you should focus on one of these problems (probably the
OOME) and get that fixed, first. You may find it is the root of all other
problems.

This community can only help you so much with so little information.
You may have to hire someone to help you through this process.

- -chris

 -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Janner
 [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014
 7:26 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: How to monitor
 performance of tomcat

 -Original Message- From: Randhir Singh
 [mailto:randhir.si...@sterlite.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014
 5:17 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: How to monitor performance
 of tomcat

 Hi,

 I wanted input from the experts on my query below that the port
 8891 does not respond when the command,

 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

 is issued when the application hangs and stops responding.

 Requesting inputs so that the root cause analysis of this issue can
 be found out.

 Regards

 Randhir - Your actual first request in this thread was apparently a
 request for opinions on monitoring tools. This problem of actual hangs
 wasn't brought up until a week later. Here is what I've usually found
 when Tomcat stops responding and even the monitoring port is
 unreachable via jconsole and other tools: Your JVM has crashed for
 some reason. At this point, you need to refer to the Tomcat logs, your
 application logs, etc. in order to find the root cause.  If the JVM is
 still running, try taking a couple of thread dumps and review them
 to find your root cause. Jeff

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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-05-05 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Randir,

On 5/5/14, 6:07 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
 Thanks Chris for your answer.
 
 I researched a lot and want to try out an option for OOME:
 
 The JAVA_OPTS variable in $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh has the
 value as:

You should use CATALINA_OPTS. Read the comments at the top of
bin/catalina.sh to see what the difference is.

Also, you should set these environment variables in bin/setenv.sh
(which you may have to create) instead of modifying startup.sh
directly. It will make upgrades much easier.

 JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms1303m -Xmx1303m -XX:MaxPermSize=256m 
 -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1 -Dcwom.bl.port=1399
 
 I checked for free space on the VM instance with Red Hat Linux as
 the OS on which the Tomcat is hosted with a total memory of 19 GB,
 I found that there is around 8 GB of free space in the server.

8GiB free memory or disk?

 I am planning to increase the memory allocation for Heap size and
 PermGen size to almost double as below:
 
 JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms2048m -Xmx2048m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m 
 -Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1 -Dcwom.bl.port=1399
 
 I hope, this should avoid the hang-up issues where Tomcat does not
 seem to respond. I plan to implement this in the UAT environment at
 first and see how it goes.

If the problem is GC-related, then the only conditions under which
things will improve by increasing memory are if you were running right
under the heap ceiling you had imposed upon yourself and GC had to run
a lot in order to keep up. Remember that GC-time is related to the
number of useful references in the heap, so if you have a large heap
with lots of long-lived objects, GC will work harder (to a point,
with generational GC).

 There is another thing I wanted to try. We have RHEL 5.8 Beta
 (Tikanga) version and lot of updates from Red Hat are pending which
 can update the version to RHEL 5.10 (Tikanga). Would this patching
 help as lot of updates are pending?

I have no idea. I know virtually nothing about RHEL and what changes
will be coming.

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RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-05-03 Thread Randhir Singh
Thanks a lot for your detailed reply.

The JAVA_OPTS variable in $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh has the value as:

JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms1303m -Xmx1303m -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
-Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1
 -Dcwom.bl.port=1399

I checked for free space on the VM instance with Red Hat Linux as the OS on
which the Tomcat is hosted with a total memory of 19 GB, I found that there
is around 8 GB of free space in the server.

As per your inputs, I am planning to increase the memory allocation for Heap
size and PermGen size to almost double as below:

JAVA_OPTS=$JAVA_OPTS -Xms2048m -Xmx2048m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m
-Dcwom.bl.ip=127.0.0.1
 -Dcwom.bl.port=1399

I hope, this should avoid the hang-up issues where Tomcat does not seem to
respond.

I plan to implement this in the UAT environment at first and see how it
goes.

Regards

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:39 PM
To: 'Randhir Singh'
Subject: RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

 -Original Message-
 From: Randhir Singh [mailto:randhir.si...@sterlite.com]
 Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 5:47 AM
 To: Jeffrey Janner; Tomcat Users List
 Subject: RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

 Thanks for your valuable inputs. I am a bit of a novice to this. When
 this problem happens, it is quite a loss of face in front of the users
 who are widely spread geographically. I checked the catalina.out logs
 on the 2 days that the problem happened on 23rd  25th April, the
 findings are as below:

 23rd April '14:

 The catalina.out log showed the message like,
 --
 -
 --
 -
 -
 Caused by: org.jboss.remoting.InvocationFailureException: Socket timed
 out.
 Waited 30 milliseconds for response while calling on
 InvokerLocator [socket://hostname of our
 machine:4173/?invokerDestructionDelay=5000timeout=30]; nested
 exception is:
   java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
 --
 -
 --
 -
 -

 3 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.

 25th April '14:

 The errors captured in the logs were like,
 --
 -
 --
 -
 -
 java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

This error specifically means that the JVM is basically spending all of its
time doing garbage collection and not really getting any significant amount
of memory back for its efforts.  The end user experiences this usually as a
hung system.  It might eventually come back or it might end up with a
different, more severe, OOM error.
There are lots of various causes for this: too small memory allocation; too
much load; an activity generating a lot of objects, most of which persist
for a long time; memory leaks; or a combination of the above.
How to address it?
a) Profile what parts of the app are being used with this occurs and have
the dev team look at what could be causing the problem.  There might be a
better way to perform the action requested.
b) Increase the available memory (double it or more).  This is only a
band-aid and you may still have the problem, but less often. Have the dev
team look for memory leaks.
c) Anyone else with ideas?
Jeff

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 --
 -
 -

 4 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.

 Requesting a reply on this.

 Regards

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RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-28 Thread Randhir Singh
Thanks for your valuable inputs. I am a bit of a novice to this. When this
problem happens, it is quite a loss of face in front of the users who are
widely spread geographically. I checked the catalina.out logs on the 2 days
that the problem happened on 23rd  25th April, the findings are as below:

23rd April '14:

The catalina.out log showed the message like,
---
Caused by: org.jboss.remoting.InvocationFailureException: Socket timed out.
Waited 30 milliseconds for response while calling on InvokerLocator
[socket://hostname of our
machine:4173/?invokerDestructionDelay=5000timeout=30]; nested
exception is:
java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
---

3 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.

25th April '14:

The errors captured in the logs were like,
---
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
---

4 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.

Requesting a reply on this.

Regards

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 7:26 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

 -Original Message-
 From: Randhir Singh [mailto:randhir.si...@sterlite.com]
 Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 5:17 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

 Hi,

 I wanted input from the experts on my query below that the port 8891
 does not respond when the command,

 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

 is issued when the application hangs and stops responding.

 Requesting inputs so that the root cause analysis of this issue can be
 found out.

 Regards

Randhir -
Your actual first request in this thread was apparently a request for
opinions on monitoring tools.
This problem of actual hangs wasn't brought up until a week later.
Here is what I've usually found when Tomcat stops responding and even the
monitoring port is unreachable via jconsole and other tools: Your JVM has
crashed for some reason.
At this point, you need to refer to the Tomcat logs, your application logs,
etc. in order to find the root cause.  If the JVM is still running, try
taking a couple of thread dumps and review them to find your root cause.
Jeff

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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-28 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Randir,

On 4/28/14, 6:46 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
 Thanks for your valuable inputs. I am a bit of a novice to this.
 When this problem happens, it is quite a loss of face in front of
 the users who are widely spread geographically. I checked the
 catalina.out logs on the 2 days that the problem happened on 23rd 
 25th April, the findings are as below:
 
 23rd April '14:
 
 The catalina.out log showed the message like, 
 ---

 
Caused by: org.jboss.remoting.InvocationFailureException: Socket timed out.
 Waited 30 milliseconds for response while calling on
 InvokerLocator [socket://hostname of our 
 machine:4173/?invokerDestructionDelay=5000timeout=30];
 nested exception is: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed
 out 
 ---

  3 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.
 
 25th April '14:
 
 The errors captured in the logs were like, 
 ---

 
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
 ---

  4 times among other exceptions in a span of around 2 minutes.
 
 Requesting a reply on this.

It sounds like you have all kinds of problems:

1. Bad performance under unspecified conditions
2. Application hang under unspecified conditions
3. catalina.out file grows quickly, may fill filesystem
4. Long timeouts on the server-side during some unspecified operation
(I don't know what an InvokerLocator is)
5. OOME

It seems to me that you should focus on one of these problems
(probably the OOME) and get that fixed, first. You may find it is the
root of all other problems.

This community can only help you so much with so little information.
You may have to hire someone to help you through this process.

- -chris

 -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Janner
 [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014
 7:26 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: How to monitor
 performance of tomcat
 
 -Original Message- From: Randhir Singh
 [mailto:randhir.si...@sterlite.com] Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014
 5:17 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: How to monitor
 performance of tomcat
 
 Hi,
 
 I wanted input from the experts on my query below that the port
 8891 does not respond when the command,
 
 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891
 
 is issued when the application hangs and stops responding.
 
 Requesting inputs so that the root cause analysis of this issue
 can be found out.
 
 Regards
 
 Randhir - Your actual first request in this thread was apparently a
 request for opinions on monitoring tools. This problem of actual
 hangs wasn't brought up until a week later. Here is what I've
 usually found when Tomcat stops responding and even the monitoring
 port is unreachable via jconsole and other tools: Your JVM has 
 crashed for some reason. At this point, you need to refer to the
 Tomcat logs, your application logs, etc. in order to find the root
 cause.  If the JVM is still running, try taking a couple of
 thread dumps and review them to find your root cause. Jeff
 
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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-22 Thread Randhir Singh
Hi,

I have come across a point which could be a reason, the catalina.out file
has become 13G which came to notice when we were analysing space crunch on
the mount point in which tomcat is located.

Further to this, there is some log rotation which is happening. But, what
should be the steps to check or to introduce log rotation otherwise.

Request you to please revert as it is urgent. I would be waiting for a
revert.

Regards


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Randhir Singh
randhir.si...@sterlite.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted input from the experts on my query below that the port 8891 does
 not respond when the command,

 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

 is issued when the application hangs and stops responding.

 Requesting inputs so that the root cause analysis of this issue can be
 found out.

 Regards

 -Original Message-
 From: Randhir Singh [mailto:randhir.si...@sterlite.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:20 PM
 To: 'Tomcat Users List'
 Subject: RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

 There is 1 finding. We normally monitor the tomcat port using jconsole as-

 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

 As per my initial query, our application hangs and we need to restart
 JBoss  Tomcat. I have observed that during this time the port 8891 does
 not respond as the command,

 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

 does not give any console for monitoring.

 Requesting an update so that the root cause analysis of this issue can be
 found out.

 Regards

 -Original Message-
 From: Shanti Suresh [mailto:sha...@umich.edu]
 Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:12 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:04 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

  Shanti Suresh wrote:
 
  Hi Chris,
 
  On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Christopher Schultz 
  ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:
 
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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  Shanti,
 
  On 4/11/14, 9:01 AM, Shanti Suresh wrote:
 
  Thank you!  Great presentation and most wonderful notes!  One
  question - on slide #48, where the notes say, You can see here
  that the current usage is about 100MiB, less than the 115MiB
  threshold we set, where is the 100MB or thereabouts shown?  Is it
  the committed value?  I don't follow that statement.
 
  The statement refers to the used value.
 
  - -chris
 
  Thank you!  I got it.
 
 
  The used value says used 114510568.  I was looking for a value
  closer to 100MiB.
 
 
114510568  (~ 109 MB)
  - 104857600(100 MB)
  ===
  9652968   (~  9 MB)
 
  How much closer were you looking for ?


 Well, I don't know, maybe 1 or 2 MiB over?  The threshold is 115 MiB, so
 if the notes had said the current usage is less than the 115MiB threshold
 we set, I might not have had any doubt.


 
 
  So in the slide, you were making a point of the current usage being
  less than the threshold, basically, if I am not mistaken.
 
  Thanks,
 
-Shanti
 
 
 
 Thanks,

   -Shanti


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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-22 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Randhir,

On 4/22/14, 10:03 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
 I have come across a point which could be a reason, the
 catalina.out file has become 13G which came to notice when we were
 analysing space crunch on the mount point in which tomcat is
 located.

Does low-disk-space cause performance problems for you?

 Further to this, there is some log rotation which is happening.
 But, what should be the steps to check or to introduce log rotation
 otherwise.

Tomcat will rotate logs as directed. You will need to tell us about
your logging if you want help with this.

 Request you to please revert as it is urgent. I would be waiting
 for a revert.

Revert what?

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RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-22 Thread Randhir Singh
Thanks for your answer. The disk space is an issue as it is 99% right now.
The mountpoint /opt is 40G and catalina.out is occupying 13G.

We have log rotated files being made like catalina.2014-04-16.log,
host-manager.2014-04-14.log, localhost.2014-04-14.log.

I can reply to you immediately if you could specify what details you need
about the logging configuration, the text from the files you require.

Regards

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:07 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

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Randhir,

On 4/22/14, 10:03 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
 I have come across a point which could be a reason, the catalina.out
 file has become 13G which came to notice when we were analysing space
 crunch on the mount point in which tomcat is located.

Does low-disk-space cause performance problems for you?

 Further to this, there is some log rotation which is happening.
 But, what should be the steps to check or to introduce log rotation
 otherwise.

Tomcat will rotate logs as directed. You will need to tell us about your
logging if you want help with this.

 Request you to please revert as it is urgent. I would be waiting for a
 revert.

Revert what?

- -chris
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RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-21 Thread Randhir Singh
Hi,

I wanted input from the experts on my query below that the port 8891 does
not respond when the command,

jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

is issued when the application hangs and stops responding.

Requesting inputs so that the root cause analysis of this issue can be
found out.

Regards

-Original Message-
From: Randhir Singh [mailto:randhir.si...@sterlite.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:20 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

There is 1 finding. We normally monitor the tomcat port using jconsole as-

jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

As per my initial query, our application hangs and we need to restart
JBoss  Tomcat. I have observed that during this time the port 8891 does
not respond as the command,

jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

does not give any console for monitoring.

Requesting an update so that the root cause analysis of this issue can be
found out.

Regards

-Original Message-
From: Shanti Suresh [mailto:sha...@umich.edu]
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:12 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:04 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Shanti Suresh wrote:

 Hi Chris,

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Christopher Schultz 
 ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:

  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA256

 Shanti,

 On 4/11/14, 9:01 AM, Shanti Suresh wrote:

 Thank you!  Great presentation and most wonderful notes!  One
 question - on slide #48, where the notes say, You can see here
 that the current usage is about 100MiB, less than the 115MiB
 threshold we set, where is the 100MB or thereabouts shown?  Is it
 the committed value?  I don't follow that statement.

 The statement refers to the used value.

 - -chris

 Thank you!  I got it.


 The used value says used 114510568.  I was looking for a value
 closer to 100MiB.


   114510568  (~ 109 MB)
 - 104857600(100 MB)
 ===
 9652968   (~  9 MB)

 How much closer were you looking for ?


Well, I don't know, maybe 1 or 2 MiB over?  The threshold is 115 MiB, so
if the notes had said the current usage is less than the 115MiB threshold
we set, I might not have had any doubt.




 So in the slide, you were making a point of the current usage being
 less than the threshold, basically, if I am not mistaken.

 Thanks,

   -Shanti



Thanks,

  -Shanti

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RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-21 Thread Jeffrey Janner
 -Original Message-
 From: Randhir Singh [mailto:randhir.si...@sterlite.com]
 Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 5:17 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat
 
 Hi,
 
 I wanted input from the experts on my query below that the port 8891
 does not respond when the command,
 
 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891
 
 is issued when the application hangs and stops responding.
 
 Requesting inputs so that the root cause analysis of this issue can be
 found out.
 
 Regards
 
Randhir -
Your actual first request in this thread was apparently a request for opinions 
on monitoring tools.
This problem of actual hangs wasn't brought up until a week later.
Here is what I've usually found when Tomcat stops responding and even the 
monitoring port is unreachable via jconsole and other tools: Your JVM has 
crashed for some reason.
At this point, you need to refer to the Tomcat logs, your application logs, 
etc. in order to find the root cause.  If the JVM is still running, try 
taking a couple of thread dumps and review them to find your root cause.
Jeff


RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-15 Thread Randhir Singh
There is 1 finding. We normally monitor the tomcat port using jconsole as-

jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

As per my initial query, our application hangs and we need to restart
JBoss  Tomcat. I have observed that during this time the port 8891 does
not respond as the command,

jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

does not give any console for monitoring.

Requesting an update so that the root cause analysis of this issue can be
found out.

Regards

-Original Message-
From: Shanti Suresh [mailto:sha...@umich.edu]
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:12 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:04 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Shanti Suresh wrote:

 Hi Chris,

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Christopher Schultz 
 ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:

  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA256

 Shanti,

 On 4/11/14, 9:01 AM, Shanti Suresh wrote:

 Thank you!  Great presentation and most wonderful notes!  One
 question - on slide #48, where the notes say, You can see here
 that the current usage is about 100MiB, less than the 115MiB
 threshold we set, where is the 100MB or thereabouts shown?  Is it
 the committed value?  I don't follow that statement.

 The statement refers to the used value.

 - -chris

 Thank you!  I got it.


 The used value says used 114510568.  I was looking for a value
 closer to 100MiB.


   114510568  (~ 109 MB)
 - 104857600(100 MB)
 ===
 9652968   (~  9 MB)

 How much closer were you looking for ?


Well, I don't know, maybe 1 or 2 MiB over?  The threshold is 115 MiB, so
if the notes had said the current usage is less than the 115MiB threshold
we set, I might not have had any doubt.




 So in the slide, you were making a point of the current usage being
 less than the threshold, basically, if I am not mistaken.

 Thanks,

   -Shanti



Thanks,

  -Shanti

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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-15 Thread Shanti Suresh
Hi Randhir,

Have you considered taking a thread dump of the JVM processes, I forget?

http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/HowTo#How_do_I_obtain_a_thread_dump_of_my_running_webapp_.3F

If you take multiple thread dumps, say, 6, a minute apart, then you may
open these up in a thread dump analyzer such as TDA or Samurai and see what
threads are deadlocked, or how they are progressing etc.  Then restart
Tomcats to fix problem.  Then analyze the thread dumps post-restart.  I
find thread and heap dumps useful in addition to monitoring metrics.

Thanks,

-Shanti


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Randhir Singh
randhir.si...@sterlite.comwrote:

 There is 1 finding. We normally monitor the tomcat port using jconsole as-

 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

 As per my initial query, our application hangs and we need to restart
 JBoss  Tomcat. I have observed that during this time the port 8891 does
 not respond as the command,

 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

 does not give any console for monitoring.

 Requesting an update so that the root cause analysis of this issue can be
 found out.

 Regards

 -Original Message-
 From: Shanti Suresh [mailto:sha...@umich.edu]
 Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:12 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:04 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

  Shanti Suresh wrote:
 
  Hi Chris,
 
  On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Christopher Schultz 
  ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:
 
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA256
 
  Shanti,
 
  On 4/11/14, 9:01 AM, Shanti Suresh wrote:
 
  Thank you!  Great presentation and most wonderful notes!  One
  question - on slide #48, where the notes say, You can see here
  that the current usage is about 100MiB, less than the 115MiB
  threshold we set, where is the 100MB or thereabouts shown?  Is it
  the committed value?  I don't follow that statement.
 
  The statement refers to the used value.
 
  - -chris
 
  Thank you!  I got it.
 
 
  The used value says used 114510568.  I was looking for a value
  closer to 100MiB.
 
 
114510568  (~ 109 MB)
  - 104857600(100 MB)
  ===
  9652968   (~  9 MB)
 
  How much closer were you looking for ?


 Well, I don't know, maybe 1 or 2 MiB over?  The threshold is 115 MiB, so
 if the notes had said the current usage is less than the 115MiB threshold
 we set, I might not have had any doubt.


 
 
  So in the slide, you were making a point of the current usage being
  less than the threshold, basically, if I am not mistaken.
 
  Thanks,
 
-Shanti
 
 
 
 Thanks,

   -Shanti

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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-15 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2014-04-15 14:49 GMT+04:00 Randhir Singh randhir.si...@sterlite.com:
 There is 1 finding. We normally monitor the tomcat port using jconsole as-

 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

 As per my initial query, our application hangs and we need to restart
 JBoss  Tomcat. I have observed that during this time the port 8891 does
 not respond as the command,

 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891

 does not give any console for monitoring.

 Requesting an update so that the root cause analysis of this issue can be
 found out.


An often cause for such behaviour is an out-of-memory condition.

If you encountered OutOfMemoryError: PermGen error,  then JVM will not
be able to load any new classes,  with obvious fatal consequences.

Did you monitor the PermGen memory pool size, or just memory as a whole?


If an OOME causes a thread death, it is usually not logged to logging
frameworks, but a message in written to System.err (by
ThreadGroup,uncaughtException(..)).

2014-04-15 17:40 GMT+04:00 Shanti Suresh sha...@umich.edu:

 Have you considered taking a thread dump of the JVM processes, I forget?


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RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-11 Thread Jeffrey Janner
 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
 Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:54 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat
 
 All,
 
 On 4/8/14, 5:24 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
  Randir,
 
  On 4/8/14, 5:05 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
  We have an application which has JBoss as the application server
 with
  Tomcat as the web server, our application has Oracle 11g as the
  database. I would give some further background to the issue we are
  facing, since the last 1 1/2 months, the application slows down.
  Sometimes it comes back to normal, specially on week-ends. But other
  times we restart JBoss  Tomcat to bring back the application to
  normal.
 
  We have been using jconsole to monitor tomcat like
 
  jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891
 
  which monitors our tomcat for a work order system. If the memory
  usage does not show spike and shows constant reading, the GC button
  is clicked to invoke the garbage collector.
 
  You should really never have to invoke the gc yourself. It gc isn't
  working properly by itself, you have a big problem.
 
  I checked out on the net and got some clue as below:
 
  1)  Javamelody - It seems to be a 3rd party tool which is not
   recommended.
 
  Javamelody is just fine. What makes you think it's not recommended?
 
  2)  There is a command mentioned to see the admin console,
  http://IP:port/ but it is not displaying the required page.
 
  Please give your inputs whether jconsole should be a help in the
  right direction or some other way to monitor the performance of
  Tomcat.
 
  I suspect there's no chance you are in Denver for ApacheCon right
 now,
  are you? I'm giving a presentation on it tomorrow. I'll post the
  slides later in the afternoon MDT.
 
 http://people.apache.org/~schultz/ApacheCon%20NA%202014/Monitoring%20Ap
 ache%20Tomcat%20with%20JMX.odp
 
 There's a PDF version with borked slide-notes in that directory if you
 can't read ODP.
 
Chris -
The PDF file is not world readable.
Jeff


Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-11 Thread André Warnier

Jeffrey Janner wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:54 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

All,

On 4/8/14, 5:24 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:

Randir,

On 4/8/14, 5:05 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:

We have an application which has JBoss as the application server

with

Tomcat as the web server, our application has Oracle 11g as the
database. I would give some further background to the issue we are
facing, since the last 1 1/2 months, the application slows down.
Sometimes it comes back to normal, specially on week-ends. But other
times we restart JBoss  Tomcat to bring back the application to
normal.
We have been using jconsole to monitor tomcat like
jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891
which monitors our tomcat for a work order system. If the memory
usage does not show spike and shows constant reading, the GC button
is clicked to invoke the garbage collector.

You should really never have to invoke the gc yourself. It gc isn't
working properly by itself, you have a big problem.


I checked out on the net and got some clue as below:
1)  Javamelody - It seems to be a 3rd party tool which is not
 recommended.

Javamelody is just fine. What makes you think it's not recommended?


2)  There is a command mentioned to see the admin console,
http://IP:port/ but it is not displaying the required page.
Please give your inputs whether jconsole should be a help in the
right direction or some other way to monitor the performance of
Tomcat.

I suspect there's no chance you are in Denver for ApacheCon right

now,

are you? I'm giving a presentation on it tomorrow. I'll post the
slides later in the afternoon MDT.

http://people.apache.org/~schultz/ApacheCon%20NA%202014/Monitoring%20Ap
ache%20Tomcat%20with%20JMX.odp

There's a PDF version with borked slide-notes in that directory if you
can't read ODP.


Chris -
The PDF file is not world readable.


It gets worse : it's not even a PDF.
;-)
Coffee, Jeffrey.


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RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-11 Thread Jeffrey Janner
 -Original Message-
 From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
 Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:27 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat
 
 Jeffrey Janner wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
  Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:54 AM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat
 
  All,
 
  On 4/8/14, 5:24 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
  Randir,
 
  On 4/8/14, 5:05 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
  We have an application which has JBoss as the application server
  with
  Tomcat as the web server, our application has Oracle 11g as the
  database. I would give some further background to the issue we are
  facing, since the last 1 1/2 months, the application slows down.
  Sometimes it comes back to normal, specially on week-ends. But
  other times we restart JBoss  Tomcat to bring back the
 application
  to normal.
  We have been using jconsole to monitor tomcat like jconsole
  10.101.17.79:8891 which monitors our tomcat for a work order
  system. If the memory usage does not show spike and shows constant
  reading, the GC button is clicked to invoke the garbage collector.
  You should really never have to invoke the gc yourself. It gc isn't
  working properly by itself, you have a big problem.
 
  I checked out on the net and got some clue as below:
  1)  Javamelody - It seems to be a 3rd party tool which is not
   recommended.
  Javamelody is just fine. What makes you think it's not
 recommended?
 
  2)  There is a command mentioned to see the admin console,
  http://IP:port/ but it is not displaying the required page.
  Please give your inputs whether jconsole should be a help in the
  right direction or some other way to monitor the performance of
  Tomcat.
  I suspect there's no chance you are in Denver for ApacheCon right
  now,
  are you? I'm giving a presentation on it tomorrow. I'll post the
  slides later in the afternoon MDT.
 
 http://people.apache.org/~schultz/ApacheCon%20NA%202014/Monitoring%20
  Ap
  ache%20Tomcat%20with%20JMX.odp
 
  There's a PDF version with borked slide-notes in that directory if
  you can't read ODP.
 
  Chris -
  The PDF file is not world readable.
 
 It gets worse : it's not even a PDF.
 ;-)
 Coffee, Jeffrey.

André -
Perhaps you should get another cup.  Make it expresso.
Chris clearly states that there is *additionally* a PDF version, and that is 
the one that generates a permissions error.
The ODP version downloads just fine, though PowerPoint complains about errors, 
it seems OK (I still perusing).
I was trying to download the PDF version to use as a reference source for some 
of my less-technical staff.
Jeff


Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-11 Thread André Warnier

Jeffrey Janner wrote:

-Original Message-
From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:27 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

Jeffrey Janner wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:54 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

All,

On 4/8/14, 5:24 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:

Randir,

On 4/8/14, 5:05 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:

We have an application which has JBoss as the application server

with

Tomcat as the web server, our application has Oracle 11g as the
database. I would give some further background to the issue we are
facing, since the last 1 1/2 months, the application slows down.
Sometimes it comes back to normal, specially on week-ends. But
other times we restart JBoss  Tomcat to bring back the

application

to normal.
We have been using jconsole to monitor tomcat like jconsole
10.101.17.79:8891 which monitors our tomcat for a work order
system. If the memory usage does not show spike and shows constant
reading, the GC button is clicked to invoke the garbage collector.

You should really never have to invoke the gc yourself. It gc isn't
working properly by itself, you have a big problem.


I checked out on the net and got some clue as below:
1)  Javamelody - It seems to be a 3rd party tool which is not
 recommended.

Javamelody is just fine. What makes you think it's not

recommended?

2)  There is a command mentioned to see the admin console,
http://IP:port/ but it is not displaying the required page.
Please give your inputs whether jconsole should be a help in the
right direction or some other way to monitor the performance of
Tomcat.

I suspect there's no chance you are in Denver for ApacheCon right

now,

are you? I'm giving a presentation on it tomorrow. I'll post the
slides later in the afternoon MDT.

http://people.apache.org/~schultz/ApacheCon%20NA%202014/Monitoring%20

Ap
ache%20Tomcat%20with%20JMX.odp

There's a PDF version with borked slide-notes in that directory if
you can't read ODP.


Chris -
The PDF file is not world readable.

It gets worse : it's not even a PDF.
;-)
Coffee, Jeffrey.


André -
Perhaps you should get another cup.  Make it expresso.
Chris clearly states that there is *additionally* a PDF version, and that is 
the one that generates a permissions error.
The ODP version downloads just fine, though PowerPoint complains about errors, 
it seems OK (I still perusing).
I was trying to download the PDF version to use as a reference source for some 
of my less-technical staff.
Jeff


Jeff.
I apologise.
I got a cup of (strong) coffee, and a Twix to go with it.
I have an excuse though : for me, it is Friday afternoon, just 15 minutes before 5 PM, at 
the end of a long week. My attention was divided, between the Tomcat list and the clock on 
the wall.

As an amend :
Q: why do clocks never get stolen from government offices ?
A: because there is always someone watching them

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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-11 Thread Shanti Suresh
Hi Chris,


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:48 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:



 On 4/8/14, 5:24 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
 http://people.apache.org/~schultz/ApacheCon%20NA%202014/Monitoringhttp://people.apache.org/~schultz/ApacheCon%20NA%202014/Monitoring%20
 %20Apache%20Tomcat%20with%20JMX.odphttp://people.apache.org/%7Eschultz/ApacheCon%20NA%202014/Monitoring%20Apache%20Tomcat%20with%20JMX.odp



 There's a PDF version with borked slide-notes in that directory if
 you can't read ODP.


 Q: why do clocks never get stolen from government offices ?
 A: because there is always someone watching them


Thank you!  Great presentation and most wonderful notes!  One question - on
slide #48, where the notes say, You can see here that the current usage is
about 100MiB, less than the 115MiB threshold we set, where is the 100MB or
thereabouts shown?  Is it the committed value?  I don't follow that
statement.

Thanks again,

 -Shanti


Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-11 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Jeff,

On 4/11/14, 8:20 AM, Jeffrey Janner wrote:
 -Original Message- From: Christopher Schultz
 [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Sent: Friday, April 11,
 2014 12:54 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: How to monitor
 performance of tomcat
 
 All,
 
 On 4/8/14, 5:24 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
 Randir,
 
 On 4/8/14, 5:05 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
 We have an application which has JBoss as the application
 server
 with
 Tomcat as the web server, our application has Oracle 11g as
 the database. I would give some further background to the
 issue we are facing, since the last 1 1/2 months, the
 application slows down. Sometimes it comes back to normal,
 specially on week-ends. But other times we restart JBoss 
 Tomcat to bring back the application to normal.
 
 We have been using jconsole to monitor tomcat like
 
 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891
 
 which monitors our tomcat for a work order system. If the
 memory usage does not show spike and shows constant reading,
 the GC button is clicked to invoke the garbage collector.
 
 You should really never have to invoke the gc yourself. It gc
 isn't working properly by itself, you have a big problem.
 
 I checked out on the net and got some clue as below:
 
 1)  Javamelody - It seems to be a 3rd party tool which is
 not recommended.
 
 Javamelody is just fine. What makes you think it's not
 recommended?
 
 2)  There is a command mentioned to see the admin
 console, http://IP:port/ but it is not displaying the
 required page.
 
 Please give your inputs whether jconsole should be a help in
 the right direction or some other way to monitor the
 performance of Tomcat.
 
 I suspect there's no chance you are in Denver for ApacheCon
 right
 now,
 are you? I'm giving a presentation on it tomorrow. I'll post
 the slides later in the afternoon MDT.
 
 http://people.apache.org/~schultz/ApacheCon%20NA%202014/Monitoring%20Ap

 
ache%20Tomcat%20with%20JMX.odp
 
 There's a PDF version with borked slide-notes in that directory
 if you can't read ODP.
 
 Chris - The PDF file is not world readable.

D'oh. How did that happen? Fixed.

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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-11 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Shanti,

On 4/11/14, 9:01 AM, Shanti Suresh wrote:
 Thank you!  Great presentation and most wonderful notes!  One
 question - on slide #48, where the notes say, You can see here
 that the current usage is about 100MiB, less than the 115MiB
 threshold we set, where is the 100MB or thereabouts shown?  Is it
 the committed value?  I don't follow that statement.

The statement refers to the used value.

- -chris
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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-11 Thread Shanti Suresh
Hi Chris,

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Christopher Schultz 
ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA256

 Shanti,

 On 4/11/14, 9:01 AM, Shanti Suresh wrote:
  Thank you!  Great presentation and most wonderful notes!  One
  question - on slide #48, where the notes say, You can see here
  that the current usage is about 100MiB, less than the 115MiB
  threshold we set, where is the 100MB or thereabouts shown?  Is it
  the committed value?  I don't follow that statement.

 The statement refers to the used value.

 - -chris

 Thank you!  I got it.

The used value says used 114510568.  I was looking for a value closer
to 100MiB.

So in the slide, you were making a point of the current usage being less
than the threshold, basically, if I am not mistaken.

Thanks,

  -Shanti


Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-11 Thread André Warnier

Shanti Suresh wrote:

Hi Chris,

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Christopher Schultz 
ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:


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Hash: SHA256

Shanti,

On 4/11/14, 9:01 AM, Shanti Suresh wrote:

Thank you!  Great presentation and most wonderful notes!  One
question - on slide #48, where the notes say, You can see here
that the current usage is about 100MiB, less than the 115MiB
threshold we set, where is the 100MB or thereabouts shown?  Is it
the committed value?  I don't follow that statement.

The statement refers to the used value.

- -chris

Thank you!  I got it.


The used value says used 114510568.  I was looking for a value closer
to 100MiB.


  114510568  (~ 109 MB)
- 104857600(100 MB)
===
9652968   (~  9 MB)

How much closer were you looking for ?



So in the slide, you were making a point of the current usage being less
than the threshold, basically, if I am not mistaken.

Thanks,

  -Shanti




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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-11 Thread Shanti Suresh
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 3:04 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Shanti Suresh wrote:

 Hi Chris,

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Christopher Schultz 
 ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:

  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA256

 Shanti,

 On 4/11/14, 9:01 AM, Shanti Suresh wrote:

 Thank you!  Great presentation and most wonderful notes!  One
 question - on slide #48, where the notes say, You can see here
 that the current usage is about 100MiB, less than the 115MiB
 threshold we set, where is the 100MB or thereabouts shown?  Is it
 the committed value?  I don't follow that statement.

 The statement refers to the used value.

 - -chris

 Thank you!  I got it.


 The used value says used 114510568.  I was looking for a value closer
 to 100MiB.


   114510568  (~ 109 MB)
 - 104857600(100 MB)
 ===
 9652968   (~  9 MB)

 How much closer were you looking for ?


Well, I don't know, maybe 1 or 2 MiB over?  The threshold is 115 MiB, so if
the notes had said the current usage is less than the 115MiB
threshold we set, I might not have had any doubt.




 So in the slide, you were making a point of the current usage being less
 than the threshold, basically, if I am not mistaken.

 Thanks,

   -Shanti



Thanks,

  -Shanti


Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-10 Thread Christopher Schultz
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All,

On 4/8/14, 5:24 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
 Randir,
 
 On 4/8/14, 5:05 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
 We have an application which has JBoss as the application server 
 with Tomcat as the web server, our application has Oracle 11g as 
 the database. I would give some further background to the issue
 we are facing, since the last 1 1/2 months, the application
 slows down. Sometimes it comes back to normal, specially on
 week-ends. But other times we restart JBoss  Tomcat to bring
 back the application to normal.
 
 We have been using jconsole to monitor tomcat like
 
 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891
 
 which monitors our tomcat for a work order system. If the memory 
 usage does not show spike and shows constant reading, the GC
 button is clicked to invoke the garbage collector.
 
 You should really never have to invoke the gc yourself. It gc
 isn't working properly by itself, you have a big problem.
 
 I checked out on the net and got some clue as below:
 
 1)  Javamelody - It seems to be a 3rd party tool which is not
  recommended.
 
 Javamelody is just fine. What makes you think it's not
 recommended?
 
 2)  There is a command mentioned to see the admin console, 
 http://IP:port/ but it is not displaying the required page.
 
 Please give your inputs whether jconsole should be a help in the 
 right direction or some other way to monitor the performance of 
 Tomcat.
 
 I suspect there's no chance you are in Denver for ApacheCon right
 now, are you? I'm giving a presentation on it tomorrow. I'll post
 the slides later in the afternoon MDT.

http://people.apache.org/~schultz/ApacheCon%20NA%202014/Monitoring%20Apache%20Tomcat%20with%20JMX.odp

There's a PDF version with borked slide-notes in that directory if you
can't read ODP.

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How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-08 Thread Randhir Singh
We have an application which has JBoss as the application server with
Tomcat as the web server, our application has Oracle 11g as the database. I
would give some further background to the issue we are facing, since the
last 1 1/2 months, the application slows down. Sometimes it comes back to
normal, specially on week-ends. But other times we restart JBoss  Tomcat
to bring back the application to normal.



We have been using jconsole to monitor tomcat like



jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891



which monitors our tomcat for a work order system. If the memory usage does
not show spike and shows constant reading, the GC button is clicked to
invoke the garbage collector.



I checked out on the net and got some clue as below:



1)  Javamelody - It seems to be a 3rd party tool which is not
recommended.

2)  There is a command mentioned to see the admin console,
http://IP:port/ but it is not displaying the required page.



Please give your inputs whether jconsole should be a help in the right
direction or some other way to monitor the performance of Tomcat.



Regards

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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-08 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2014-04-08 15:05 GMT+04:00 Randhir Singh randhir.si...@sterlite.com:
 We have an application which has JBoss as the application server with
 Tomcat as the web server, our application has Oracle 11g as the database. I
 would give some further background to the issue we are facing, since the
 last 1 1/2 months, the application slows down. Sometimes it comes back to
 normal, specially on week-ends. But other times we restart JBoss  Tomcat
 to bring back the application to normal.



 We have been using jconsole to monitor tomcat like



 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891



 which monitors our tomcat for a work order system. If the memory usage does
 not show spike and shows constant reading, the GC button is clicked to
 invoke the garbage collector.



 I checked out on the net and got some clue as below:



 1)  Javamelody - It seems to be a 3rd party tool which is not
 recommended.

 2)  There is a command mentioned to see the admin console,
 http://IP:port/ but it is not displaying the required page.



 Please give your inputs whether jconsole should be a help in the right
 direction or some other way to monitor the performance of Tomcat.


Have you tried
1) FAQ
2) archives of this mailing list?

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RE: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-08 Thread Jeffrey Janner
 -Original Message-
 From: Randhir Singh [mailto:randhir.si...@sterlite.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 6:05 AM
 To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 Subject: How to monitor performance of tomcat
 
 We have an application which has JBoss as the application server with
 Tomcat as the web server, our application has Oracle 11g as the
 database. I would give some further background to the issue we are
 facing, since the last 1 1/2 months, the application slows down.
 Sometimes it comes back to normal, specially on week-ends. But other
 times we restart JBoss  Tomcat to bring back the application to
 normal.
 
 
 
 We have been using jconsole to monitor tomcat like
 
 
 
 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891
 
 
 
 which monitors our tomcat for a work order system. If the memory usage
 does not show spike and shows constant reading, the GC button is
 clicked to invoke the garbage collector.
 
 
 
 I checked out on the net and got some clue as below:
 
 
 
 1)  Javamelody - It seems to be a 3rd party tool which is not
 recommended.
 
 2)  There is a command mentioned to see the admin console,
 http://IP:port/ but it is not displaying the required page.
 
 
 
 Please give your inputs whether jconsole should be a help in the right
 direction or some other way to monitor the performance of Tomcat.
 
Jconsole and JVisualVm are quite useful tools for basic monitoring, if you 
understand how to use them and their limitations.
Why did you get the impression that JavaMelody is not recommended?  It does 
offer an awful lot of monitoring/debugging information, but you need to careful 
in setting it up.  Under Tomcat 7, it will autodeploy with no security by 
default and expose a lot of potentially confidential information to whomever 
connects using the well-known context for it (which can't be changed).  If 
you want to use it, I suggest limiting it to your development environment only, 
or reading up on how to secure it as best as possible.
Jeff



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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-08 Thread Арсений Зинченко
Hi.

We use JavaMelody for moment performance checks on test box and Zabbix
monitoring system to have whole history. Zabbix can use JMX connection to
Tomcat instance and have set of included teamplates, for example - number
of threads, current memory usage, gzip usage and so on. Main virtue of
Zabbix ++ JMX is that it store all data in database + can draw graphs.


2014-04-08 18:00 GMT+03:00 Jeffrey Janner jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com:

  -Original Message-
  From: Randhir Singh [mailto:randhir.si...@sterlite.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 6:05 AM
  To: users@tomcat.apache.org
  Subject: How to monitor performance of tomcat
 
  We have an application which has JBoss as the application server with
  Tomcat as the web server, our application has Oracle 11g as the
  database. I would give some further background to the issue we are
  facing, since the last 1 1/2 months, the application slows down.
  Sometimes it comes back to normal, specially on week-ends. But other
  times we restart JBoss  Tomcat to bring back the application to
  normal.
 
 
 
  We have been using jconsole to monitor tomcat like
 
 
 
  jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891
 
 
 
  which monitors our tomcat for a work order system. If the memory usage
  does not show spike and shows constant reading, the GC button is
  clicked to invoke the garbage collector.
 
 
 
  I checked out on the net and got some clue as below:
 
 
 
  1)  Javamelody - It seems to be a 3rd party tool which is not
  recommended.
 
  2)  There is a command mentioned to see the admin console,
  http://IP:port/ but it is not displaying the required page.
 
 
 
  Please give your inputs whether jconsole should be a help in the right
  direction or some other way to monitor the performance of Tomcat.
 
 Jconsole and JVisualVm are quite useful tools for basic monitoring, if you
 understand how to use them and their limitations.
 Why did you get the impression that JavaMelody is not recommended?  It
 does offer an awful lot of monitoring/debugging information, but you need
 to careful in setting it up.  Under Tomcat 7, it will autodeploy with no
 security by default and expose a lot of potentially confidential
 information to whomever connects using the well-known context for it
 (which can't be changed).  If you want to use it, I suggest limiting it to
 your development environment only, or reading up on how to secure it as
 best as possible.
 Jeff



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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-08 Thread Leon Rosenberg
How about http://www.moskito.org ?
It has everything you need including full control of jmx beans, memory
management, threads, your beans/pojos/classes, filters, urls, what not...

regards
Leon


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Randhir Singh randhir.si...@sterlite.comwrote:

 We have an application which has JBoss as the application server with
 Tomcat as the web server, our application has Oracle 11g as the database. I
 would give some further background to the issue we are facing, since the
 last 1 1/2 months, the application slows down. Sometimes it comes back to
 normal, specially on week-ends. But other times we restart JBoss  Tomcat
 to bring back the application to normal.



 We have been using jconsole to monitor tomcat like



 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891



 which monitors our tomcat for a work order system. If the memory usage does
 not show spike and shows constant reading, the GC button is clicked to
 invoke the garbage collector.



 I checked out on the net and got some clue as below:



 1)  Javamelody - It seems to be a 3rd party tool which is not
 recommended.

 2)  There is a command mentioned to see the admin console,
 http://IP:port/ but it is not displaying the required page.



 Please give your inputs whether jconsole should be a help in the right
 direction or some other way to monitor the performance of Tomcat.



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Re: How to monitor performance of tomcat

2014-04-08 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Randir,

On 4/8/14, 5:05 AM, Randhir Singh wrote:
 We have an application which has JBoss as the application server
 with Tomcat as the web server, our application has Oracle 11g as
 the database. I would give some further background to the issue we
 are facing, since the last 1 1/2 months, the application slows
 down. Sometimes it comes back to normal, specially on week-ends.
 But other times we restart JBoss  Tomcat to bring back the
 application to normal.
 
 We have been using jconsole to monitor tomcat like
 
 jconsole 10.101.17.79:8891
 
 which monitors our tomcat for a work order system. If the memory
 usage does not show spike and shows constant reading, the GC button
 is clicked to invoke the garbage collector.

You should really never have to invoke the gc yourself. It gc isn't
working properly by itself, you have a big problem.

 I checked out on the net and got some clue as below:
 
 1)  Javamelody - It seems to be a 3rd party tool which is not 
 recommended.

Javamelody is just fine. What makes you think it's not recommended?

 2)  There is a command mentioned to see the admin console, 
 http://IP:port/ but it is not displaying the required page.
 
 Please give your inputs whether jconsole should be a help in the
 right direction or some other way to monitor the performance of
 Tomcat.

I suspect there's no chance you are in Denver for ApacheCon right now,
are you? I'm giving a presentation on it tomorrow. I'll post the
slides later in the afternoon MDT.

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