RE: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

2009-04-22 Thread Karthik Nanjangude

Hi

Thx for the reply

 restrict based on roles so in /conf/tomcat-users.xml

By using the AAA Realm, UserId / Passwd would be definitely an usage ,

But the intension for doing the same is NOT to expose the /admin/*  to 
INTERNET and reply with  ERROR 404 for the same,

But in case of INTRANET usage access for /admin/* should be provided

Note:-
The admin also has a set of Log-in credentials as similar to normal
non admin  case, So using realm would double up the process un-necessarily.


Please appreciate this process for more ideas !


With regards
Karthik

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From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgai...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:10 PM
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Subject: RE: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode


you can restrict based on roles so in /conf/tomcat-users.xml you can define 
username fubar
to role 'newrole'
 user username=fubar password=fubar roles=newrole/

then in WebAppName/WEB/INF/web.xml
  !-- Define a Security Constraint on this Application --
  security-constraint
web-resource-collection
  web-resource-nameHTMLManger and Manager command/web-resource-name
  url-pattern/admin/*/url-pattern
/web-resource-collection
auth-constraint
   !-- NOTE:  This role is not present in the default users file --
   role-namenewrole/role-name
/auth-constraint
security-role
  role-namenewrole/role-name
/security-role
  /security-constraint

any access to YourWebAppName/admin are enabled only to role='newrole'

Martin
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 From: karthik.nanjang...@xius-bcgi.com
 To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:19:42 +0530
 Subject: RE: R: Apache / Tomcat   Load Balanced mode

 Hi

 Thx for the same

 Web application would be installed on 3 nodes of Tomcat below the single load 
 balancer of Apache http 2.x server

  www.acme.com  being exposed to INTERNET
 
  www.acme.com/adminbeing exposed to INTRANET



 We would like to block the /admin from the INTERNET access
 If some body uses /admin the response should be blocked

 If the same /admin is to be used within the INTRANET local access
 We should be able to display the credentials


 How To achieve the same ?


 With regards
 karthik







 -Original Message-
 From: Rainer Jung [mailto:rainer.j...@kippdata.de]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:51 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

 On 21.04.2009 09:06, Leandro Dardini wrote:
 
 
  -Messaggio originale- Da: Karthik Nanjangude
  [mailto:karthik.nanjang...@xius-bcgi.com] Inviato: martedì 21
  aprile 2009 7.34 A: Tomcat Users List Oggetto: Apache / Tomcat Load
  Balanced mode
 
  Hi
 
  Would the same work with Apache / Tomcat   Load Balanced mode
 
  Configuration for single installation of the web application
  acme
 
 
  www.acme.com  being exposed to INTERNET
 
  www.acme.com/adminbeing exposed to INTRANET
 
 
  Reason :  The application uses a single DB  to request of orders
  (from Subscribers) and  same URL  with *admin*  would process the
  orders ( Internal Employees) and  should not be exposed to outside
  world.
 
 
  Is there any Configuration with in Apache or Tomcat to achieve the
  same?
 
 
 
  With regards Karthik
 
 
 
  Maybe I don't understand your question, but to me there is no
  difference in configuring access in Load Balanced or not Load
  Balanced mode.
 
  As regarding the admin section, you can filter it using apache access
  control.

 I agree, load balancing seems to be not related to the question

RE: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

2009-04-22 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Karthik Nanjangude [mailto:karthik.nanjang...@xius-bcgi.com]
 Subject: RE: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode
 
 But the intension for doing the same is NOT to expose the /admin/*
 to INTERNET and reply with  ERROR 404 for the same,
 
 But in case of INTRANET usage access for /admin/* should be provided

Write a filter that rejects requests for /admin or /admin/* when the request 
arrives from a non-intranet address.

 - Chuck


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Re: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

2009-04-22 Thread Mark Thomas
Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
 From: Karthik Nanjangude [mailto:karthik.nanjang...@xius-bcgi.com]
 Subject: RE: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

 But the intension for doing the same is NOT to expose the /admin/*
 to INTERNET and reply with  ERROR 404 for the same,

 But in case of INTRANET usage access for /admin/* should be provided
 
 Write a filter that rejects requests for /admin or /admin/* when the request 
 arrives from a non-intranet address.

http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/valve.html
Remote Address Filter or Remote Host Filter

Mark



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Re: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

2009-04-22 Thread André Warnier

Mark Thomas wrote:

Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: Karthik Nanjangude [mailto:karthik.nanjang...@xius-bcgi.com]
Subject: RE: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

But the intension for doing the same is NOT to expose the /admin/*
to INTERNET and reply with  ERROR 404 for the same,

But in case of INTRANET usage access for /admin/* should be provided

Write a filter that rejects requests for /admin or /admin/* when the request 
arrives from a non-intranet address.


http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/valve.html
Remote Address Filter or Remote Host Filter


Wait, does that not block *all* accesses to that host ?

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RE: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

2009-04-22 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
 Subject: Re: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode
 
  http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/valve.html
  Remote Address Filter or Remote Host Filter
 
 Wait, does that not block *all* accesses to that host ?

Yes, which is why I suggested a filter, which could be configured for just 
/admin/*.  I'm not aware of any means of configuring valves for specific URL 
patterns.

 - Chuck


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Re: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

2009-04-22 Thread Mark Thomas
André Warnier wrote:
 Mark Thomas wrote:
 Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
 From: Karthik Nanjangude [mailto:karthik.nanjang...@xius-bcgi.com]
 Subject: RE: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

 But the intension for doing the same is NOT to expose the /admin/*
 to INTERNET and reply with  ERROR 404 for the same,

 But in case of INTRANET usage access for /admin/* should be provided
 Write a filter that rejects requests for /admin or /admin/* when the
 request arrives from a non-intranet address.

 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/valve.html
 Remote Address Filter or Remote Host Filter

 Wait, does that not block *all* accesses to that host ?

I'd assumed that admin was a separate context and therefore could have a
valve applied. If not, just do it in httpd.

Mark


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Re: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

2009-04-22 Thread André Warnier

Mark Thomas wrote:

André Warnier wrote:

Mark Thomas wrote:

Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: Karthik Nanjangude [mailto:karthik.nanjang...@xius-bcgi.com]
Subject: RE: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

But the intension for doing the same is NOT to expose the /admin/*
to INTERNET and reply with  ERROR 404 for the same,

But in case of INTRANET usage access for /admin/* should be provided

Write a filter that rejects requests for /admin or /admin/* when the
request arrives from a non-intranet address.

http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/valve.html
Remote Address Filter or Remote Host Filter


Wait, does that not block *all* accesses to that host ?


I'd assumed that admin was a separate context and therefore could have a
valve applied. If not, just do it in httpd.

Do you mean that the Valve can be inserted at the context.xml level, 
rather than inside the Host ?


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Re: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

2009-04-22 Thread Mark Thomas
André Warnier wrote:
 Mark Thomas wrote:
 André Warnier wrote:
 Mark Thomas wrote:
 I'd assumed that admin was a separate context and therefore could have a
 valve applied. If not, just do it in httpd.

 Do you mean that the Valve can be inserted at the context.xml level,
 rather than inside the Host ?

Yes. Valves are valid at Engine, Host and Context level.

Mark



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RE: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

2009-04-22 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com]
 Subject: Re: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode
 
 Do you mean that the Valve can be inserted at the context.xml level,
 rather than inside the Host ?

Yes.  I had made the opposite assumption to Mark T, in that I thought admin was 
part of the ROOT context.

 - Chuck


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R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

2009-04-21 Thread Leandro Dardini
 

 -Messaggio originale-
 Da: Karthik Nanjangude [mailto:karthik.nanjang...@xius-bcgi.com] 
 Inviato: martedì 21 aprile 2009 7.34
 A: Tomcat Users List
 Oggetto: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode
 
 Hi
 
 Would the same work with Apache / Tomcat   Load Balanced mode
 
 Configuration for single installation of the web application acme
 
 
 www.acme.com  being exposed to INTERNET
 
 www.acme.com/adminbeing exposed to INTRANET
 
 
 Reason :  The application uses a single DB  to request of 
 orders  (from Subscribers) and  same URL  with
   *admin*  would process the orders ( Internal Employees)
   and  should not be exposed to outside world.
 
 
 Is there any Configuration with in Apache or Tomcat to 
 achieve the same?
 
 
 
 With regards
 Karthik
 
 

Maybe I don't understand your question, but to me there is no difference in 
configuring access in Load Balanced or not Load Balanced mode.

As regarding the admin section, you can filter it using apache access control.

Leandro

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Re: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

2009-04-21 Thread Rainer Jung
On 21.04.2009 09:06, Leandro Dardini wrote:
 
 
 -Messaggio originale- Da: Karthik Nanjangude
 [mailto:karthik.nanjang...@xius-bcgi.com] Inviato: martedì 21
 aprile 2009 7.34 A: Tomcat Users List Oggetto: Apache / Tomcat Load
 Balanced mode
 
 Hi
 
 Would the same work with Apache / Tomcat   Load Balanced mode
 
 Configuration for single installation of the web application
 acme
 
 
 www.acme.com  being exposed to INTERNET
 
 www.acme.com/adminbeing exposed to INTRANET
 
 
 Reason :  The application uses a single DB  to request of orders
 (from Subscribers) and  same URL  with *admin*  would process the
 orders ( Internal Employees) and  should not be exposed to outside
 world.
 
 
 Is there any Configuration with in Apache or Tomcat to achieve the
 same?
 
 
 
 With regards Karthik
 
 
 
 Maybe I don't understand your question, but to me there is no
 difference in configuring access in Load Balanced or not Load
 Balanced mode.
 
 As regarding the admin section, you can filter it using apache access
 control.

I agree, load balancing seems to be not related to the question.

One first decision would be, whether you are able to deploy your
application twice, once as the ROOT context and once as admin. Then
everything will become obvious.

If you only want to deploy it once, e.g. as admin, then you will need to
do URL rewriting in the Apache-Layer. When using mod_proxy, you can find
info about that at

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html

When using mod_jk, look at

http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/generic_howto/proxy.html

Regards,

Rainer

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RE: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

2009-04-21 Thread Karthik Nanjangude
Hi

Thx for the same

Web application would be installed on 3 nodes of Tomcat below the single load 
balancer of Apache http 2.x server

 www.acme.com  being exposed to INTERNET

 www.acme.com/adminbeing exposed to INTRANET



We would like to block the /admin from the INTERNET access
If some body uses /admin the response should be blocked

If the same /admin is to be used within the INTRANET local access
We should be able to display the credentials


How To achieve the same ?


With regards
karthik







-Original Message-
From: Rainer Jung [mailto:rainer.j...@kippdata.de]
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:51 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

On 21.04.2009 09:06, Leandro Dardini wrote:


 -Messaggio originale- Da: Karthik Nanjangude
 [mailto:karthik.nanjang...@xius-bcgi.com] Inviato: martedì 21
 aprile 2009 7.34 A: Tomcat Users List Oggetto: Apache / Tomcat Load
 Balanced mode

 Hi

 Would the same work with Apache / Tomcat   Load Balanced mode

 Configuration for single installation of the web application
 acme


 www.acme.com  being exposed to INTERNET

 www.acme.com/adminbeing exposed to INTRANET


 Reason :  The application uses a single DB  to request of orders
 (from Subscribers) and  same URL  with *admin*  would process the
 orders ( Internal Employees) and  should not be exposed to outside
 world.


 Is there any Configuration with in Apache or Tomcat to achieve the
 same?



 With regards Karthik



 Maybe I don't understand your question, but to me there is no
 difference in configuring access in Load Balanced or not Load
 Balanced mode.

 As regarding the admin section, you can filter it using apache access
 control.

I agree, load balancing seems to be not related to the question.

One first decision would be, whether you are able to deploy your
application twice, once as the ROOT context and once as admin. Then
everything will become obvious.

If you only want to deploy it once, e.g. as admin, then you will need to
do URL rewriting in the Apache-Layer. When using mod_proxy, you can find
info about that at

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html

When using mod_jk, look at

http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/generic_howto/proxy.html

Regards,

Rainer

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RE: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode

2009-04-21 Thread Martin Gainty

you can restrict based on roles so in /conf/tomcat-users.xml you can define 
username fubar
to role 'newrole'
 user username=fubar password=fubar roles=newrole/

then in WebAppName/WEB/INF/web.xml
  !-- Define a Security Constraint on this Application --
  security-constraint
web-resource-collection
  web-resource-nameHTMLManger and Manager command/web-resource-name
  url-pattern/admin/*/url-pattern
/web-resource-collection
auth-constraint
   !-- NOTE:  This role is not present in the default users file --
   role-namenewrole/role-name
/auth-constraint
security-role
  role-namenewrole/role-name
/security-role
  /security-constraint

any access to YourWebAppName/admin are enabled only to role='newrole'

Martin 
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 From: karthik.nanjang...@xius-bcgi.com
 To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:19:42 +0530
 Subject: RE: R: Apache / Tomcat   Load Balanced mode
 
 Hi
 
 Thx for the same
 
 Web application would be installed on 3 nodes of Tomcat below the single load 
 balancer of Apache http 2.x server
 
  www.acme.com  being exposed to INTERNET
 
  www.acme.com/adminbeing exposed to INTRANET
 
 
 
 We would like to block the /admin from the INTERNET access
 If some body uses /admin the response should be blocked
 
 If the same /admin is to be used within the INTRANET local access
 We should be able to display the credentials
 
 
 How To achieve the same ?
 
 
 With regards
 karthik
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rainer Jung [mailto:rainer.j...@kippdata.de]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:51 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: R: Apache / Tomcat Load Balanced mode
 
 On 21.04.2009 09:06, Leandro Dardini wrote:
 
 
  -Messaggio originale- Da: Karthik Nanjangude
  [mailto:karthik.nanjang...@xius-bcgi.com] Inviato: martedì 21
  aprile 2009 7.34 A: Tomcat Users List Oggetto: Apache / Tomcat Load
  Balanced mode
 
  Hi
 
  Would the same work with Apache / Tomcat   Load Balanced mode
 
  Configuration for single installation of the web application
  acme
 
 
  www.acme.com  being exposed to INTERNET
 
  www.acme.com/adminbeing exposed to INTRANET
 
 
  Reason :  The application uses a single DB  to request of orders
  (from Subscribers) and  same URL  with *admin*  would process the
  orders ( Internal Employees) and  should not be exposed to outside
  world.
 
 
  Is there any Configuration with in Apache or Tomcat to achieve the
  same?
 
 
 
  With regards Karthik
 
 
 
  Maybe I don't understand your question, but to me there is no
  difference in configuring access in Load Balanced or not Load
  Balanced mode.
 
  As regarding the admin section, you can filter it using apache access
  control.
 
 I agree, load balancing seems to be not related to the question.
 
 One first decision would be, whether you are able to deploy your
 application twice, once as the ROOT context and once as admin. Then
 everything will become obvious.
 
 If you only want to deploy it once, e.g. as admin, then you will need to
 do URL rewriting in the Apache-Layer. When using mod_proxy, you can find
 info about that at
 
 http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html
 
 When using mod_jk, look at
 
 http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/generic_howto/proxy.html
 
 Regards,
 
 Rainer
 
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